Board 8 > Euro 2020 Topic 3

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Will the team ever don their blue away kits though? Would seem like a waste if they don't at least once at the Euros.

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Havertz being interviewed. He looks so sad WHAT A SHAME

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Just think England need to be given more credit.

Barely any of them grew up with the failures vs Germany.
This gen lived and died by the Lampard/Gerrard/Beckham/Cole/Rooney sides that experienced heartbreak vs Portugal.
I think theyre mentally tougher just cos they survive worse abuse on twitter daily.

I had them down as top 4 favourite for the tournament, but a bit young so more geared for the World Cup.

They might just do it one step early.

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Let's not get too carried away.

The belief is there but we don't want to Queer (Using the term properly, mods put your Billy clubs away) the deal.

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England has a good chance of winning the whole thing. Italy are clear favorites at this stage but we have seen strange things happen this Euro.

Whatever trauma the older fans have, the younger players just don't carry that.

England's squad is worth over a billion and Southgate doesn't really lose too often as a favourite. Like yeah Croatia, but that squad wasn't as talent heavy as this one.
They might not win it all because there's still 2 or 3 really good sides left, but they belong in the discussion as favourites.

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How many clubs have gone through four European Championship matches in a row without conceding?

I'm guessing Greece did it in 04

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And I know Spain did it in the knockout rounds in the 2010 World Cup.

This is good company to be in for England, btw

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I'm sure all the other teams on our side of the bracket will be looking at it the same way and thinking 'We only have to beat England to make the finals'

Also it's kind of ridiculous that Ukraine are in the round of 16 off the back of 2 losses and a 1 goal win against Macedonia

I'd have said we had no chance but the fact we could be playing the final 2 games at Wembley means we surely will never get a better chance.

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I'm very happy for England to beat a team they haven't beat in ages but most English media sure try to turn me against them with their arrogance and their belief that Germany was what stood between them and the finals when every side except probably Ukraine and the elimated Wales on this side of the bracket has looked better than Germany overall, and honestly the belief would annoy me regardless. I don't want to let the worst fans decide what I think of a team though, so congratulations England! As said in the previous topic, perfect time to beat a German side. Presumably, Flick will build something up again.

That said, I don't think they've looked as promising as Voltch describes it. It's impressive to have not conceded yet, but let's not get carried away here. For 75 minutes that game looked like Germany's to win. Sterling has been terrible most of the time, but somehow has had three goals to cover it up, Kane has had an awful tournament until a late goal in the fourth match. It looks somewhat shaky and I firmly believe Germany will be their easiest opponent to this side of the bracket even if they had some very big names there.


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ctesjbuvf posted...

I'm very happy for England to beat a team they haven't beat in ages but most English media sure try to turn me against them with their arrogance and their belief that Germany was what stood between them and the finals when every side except probably Ukraine and the elimated Wales on this side of the bracket has looked better than Germany overall, and honestly the belief would annoy me regardless.

Not to contradict you but could you give specific links or journalists that have said this, something indicative of "most"? Maybe it's because I don't follow tabloid idiots but most English journalists (and people) have been stung so badly by this kind of thing now that this isn't anywhere near as commonplace as it used to be.

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Zinchenko!


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XIII_rocks posted...

Not to contradict you but could you give specific links or journalists that have said this, something indicative of "most"? Maybe it's because I don't follow tabloid idiots but most English journalists (and people) have been stung so badly by this kind of thing now that this isn't anywhere near as commonplace as it used to be.

I'd like to rephrase it and be more fair, because I meant fan comments on English media hence why I said fans later in the paragraph and I'll admit some of them might even be Danish, I just got caught up in some of thst before writing here. I don't really follow anything in particular either, so it's just what shows up in my feed. The outlets themselves mostly just want to say it's coming home whenever something goes right is my idea, which is repetitive but completely harmless. I get that I might be talking about a vocal minority, but it's my clear idea that the bottom of English fans is worse than most.

That assist and goal combination was absolutely beautiful, very impressive!!

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back in it now

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Was at the bathroom when Forsberg scored.

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XIII_rocks posted...

England's record against teams that have previously won a World Cup ever since beating Germany in the 1966 final:

vs. West Germany (1970 World Cup QF): Lost
vs. Argentina (1986 World Cup QF): Lost
vs. West Germany (1990 World Cup SF): Lost
vs. Germany (1996 Euros SF): Lost
vs. Argentina (1998 World Cup R2): Lost
vs. Brazil (2002 World Cup QF): Lost
vs. Germany (2010 World Cup R2): Lost
vs. Italy (2012 Euros QF): Lost
vs. Germany (2020 Euros R2): WIN

Holy shit.

should probs mention that this is knockouts only

we beat germany in euro 2000 and argentina in 2002.

we were also eliminated in the 2nd group stage in 1982 after a 0-0 with Germany and the entirety of 2014 lmao.

but yea it's a big monkey off of our back. really gives me belief that we can actually start winning some trophies in the near future. winning a shootout and beating germany in a knockout game in back to back tournaments are basically our 2 biggest demons confronted.

Was a time when the 2002 Argentina game was the biggest thing ever

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Sweden are looking really dangerous. They can easily beat us in the quarters.

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Just don't forget what happened vs Iceland before anyone entertains ideas of already being in the final

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Cavedweller2000 posted...

Just don't forget what happened vs Iceland before anyone entertains ideas of already being in the final

It's still Fresh in most people's minds. We would have lost to Tesco's First XI that day!

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The thing with the Iceland game is we were playing complete crap going into that game. It hardly felt surprising when we got knocked out.

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Ctes I disagree with your assessment of the match. Germany were clearly on top for 15 minutes and then England's nerves settled and after halftime it was anyone's game.

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Claesson, we need Claesson!

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Game's losing flavour.

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Well Ctes, England's lineup vs Iceland 5 years featured a lot of guys you'd want to get rid of from your team and the bench is filled with players you want nowhere your first XI.
This England lineup, you'd be ok paying big money to acquire guys like Rice, Grealish or Foden.
The guys who don't even make the lineup like Sancho you'd happily spend a fortune to bolster your team.
Speaks to the level of depth and quality the team has.

Obviously having talent doesn't guarantee anything in a one game sample size, but the best you can do in this sport is try to give yourself the best odds. Other teams also have players that can tilt some aspects in their favour.

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Yeah you English B8rs c
ant be scared of us.

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My only gripe with England's performance in this tournament is that they are boring to watch.

Saying that, it's worked wonders so far. 0 goals against is impressive no matter who you are

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Hey Greece and Portugal ran that playbook to great success!
Might as well use blueprints that work if your personel can execute it.

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Danielson hits the showers.

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Red Card!! Oh wow.

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Sorry guys, to much feelings.

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Both these squads don't look fit. Ukraine have had 8 days to prep for this.

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Seriously he was on the ball.

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I'm surprised that's a red card. The injury looks horrible, but what could he have done, he hit the ball as intended.

I definitely don't disagree that England has the squad potential that's the highest now that France is out (it was debatable between those two before). They just consistently look like they're not really the team they should be, even if it's starting to look a little bit better, and despite not letting any goals past them, it has looked every game like a proper attack could do this.

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Both sides looks so tired and the winner will have three days to rest. In comparison, we will have had 6 full days off before our quarterfinal.

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Everyone getting injured today.

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Of course no red card here.

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swirIdude posted...

Everyone getting injured today.

Both teams getting tenderised for when the winners get cooked this weekend.

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C'mon Ukraine!

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Sweden looked like the side that deserved to win in all of the second half, but Ukraine has dominated extra time.

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Anyone else watching BBC coverage? Why is there occasionally a blurred out square on the screen? I've noticed it in other games too

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YESSSSSS!

Loving the bra top

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Ukraine NOT weak?

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was that a bra?

someone care to explain?

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Checking... let it stand!

It stands!

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good day for hammer bros

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Did he get a yellow card for taking his top off? I didn't see anything mentioned

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Seanchan posted...

was that a bra?

someone care to explain?

Support is important!

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The referee wanted Ukraine to win, as soon as we touch the ball it was a Ukraine freekick. But the goal was legit.

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