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Bio1590
06/17/21 11:43:25 AM
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philsov
06/17/21 11:46:45 AM
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*blinks*

It does. A gallon of water is 8 lbs. volume = mass.
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Bio1590
06/17/21 11:56:17 AM
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philsov posted...
*blinks*

It does. A gallon of water is 8 lbs. volume = mass.

A gallon of water is ~8.33 lbs at room temperature if you're using US gallons.
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philsov
06/17/21 12:07:07 PM
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7.998 lbs when the water is at 211.95 degF.

You don't measure your water when it's boiling? What a sordid existence.
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Turkinghead
06/17/21 12:09:54 PM
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I feel like this is the wrong reason, but how could an ounce of water weigh exactly one ounce when it needs to be in a container that has weight in order to weigh it?
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Tyranthraxus
06/17/21 12:12:36 PM
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Turkinghead posted...
I feel like this is the wrong reason, but how could an ounce of water weigh exactly one ounce when it needs to be in a container that has weight in order to weigh it?
You weigh the container separately and then subtract the weight.

Fluid ounces are a measure of volume anyway not weight. A gallon of milk is the exact same size as a gallon of water but they weigh different.

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divot1338
06/17/21 12:13:22 PM
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One is a unit of volume and one is a unit of weight so I dont see why youd expect it to be that way.

Other factors like temperature, pressure and density aside of course.

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SevenTenths
06/17/21 12:34:47 PM
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The amount of times I've needed to convert fluid measurements to weight measurements in my life: 0

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awesome999
06/17/21 12:37:26 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
The amount of times I've needed to convert fluid measurements to weight measurements in my life: 0

The number of times people have needed to convert fluid measurements to weight measurements in the history of humanity: uncountable
Back when I didn't have weights, I used to put water bottles in my backpack and do pull ups
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Bio1590
06/17/21 12:46:33 PM
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divot1338 posted...
One is a unit of volume and one is a unit of weight so I dont see why youd expect it to be that way.

Other factors like temperature, pressure and density aside of course.

Because it does in the imperial system and the metric system (within a ridiculously small margin of error).

In the US system 1 fl oz of water is ~1.04 oz. In the Imperial system 1 fl oz of water is ~0.999 oz.
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Tyranthraxus
06/17/21 12:48:53 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Because it does in the imperial system and the metric system (within a ridiculously small margin of error).

In the US system 1 fl oz of water is ~1.04 oz. In the Imperial system 1 fl oz of water is ~0.999 oz.

The US uses imperial tho?

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ROBANN_88
06/17/21 12:49:13 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Because it does in the imperial system and the metric system (within a ridiculously small margin of error).

In the US system 1 fl oz of water is ~1.04 oz. In the Imperial system 1 fl oz of water is ~0.999 oz.

wait, is the US system and the Imperial system not the same thing?

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Derwood
06/17/21 12:50:31 PM
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I like it when people who use "stone" as a measure of weight try to make fun of my measurement system
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Flintlock_Staff
06/17/21 12:53:11 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Because it does in the imperial system and the metric system (within a ridiculously small margin of error).

In the US system 1 fl oz of water is ~1.04 oz. In the Imperial system 1 fl oz of water is ~0.999 oz.
So how much does 1 fl oz of mercury weight then???
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EmbraceOfDeath
06/17/21 12:54:34 PM
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Flintlock_Staff posted...
So how much does 1 fl oz of mercury weight then???
What's the density of mercury?

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awesome999
06/17/21 12:55:23 PM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...

What's the density of mercury?

13.6 g/cc
Others I can say from memory
Gold is 19 g/cc
Osmium is about 22-24 g/cc
Iron is about 7-8 g/cc
Copper is about 9
Aluminium is 2.7
Petroleum is about 0.7-0.9 and has energy density 44000kJ/kg
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divot1338
06/17/21 12:59:55 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Because it does in the imperial system and the metric system (within a ridiculously small margin of error).

In the US system 1 fl oz of water is ~1.04 oz. In the Imperial system 1 fl oz of water is ~0.999 oz.
It does under certain conditions. Freeze or boil the water, put it under high pressure and that wont be true.

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EmbraceOfDeath
06/17/21 1:01:12 PM
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awesome999 posted...
13.6 g/cc
Others I can say from memory
Gold is 19 g/cc
Osmium is about 22-24 g/cc
Iron is about 7-8 g/cc
Copper is about 9
Aluminium is 2.7
Petroleum is about 0.7-0.9 and has energy density 44000kJ/kg
All right, so about 13.6x the weight of 1 fl oz. of water to get the weight of 1 fl oz. of mercury then.

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SevenTenths
06/17/21 1:15:33 PM
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awesome999 posted...
The number of times people have needed to convert fluid measurements to weight measurements in the history of humanity: uncountable
Back when I didn't have weights, I used to put water bottles in my backpack and do pull ups

And you wouldn't have given 0 fucks how much volume the water was.

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divot1338
06/17/21 1:18:32 PM
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This topic is why stp is a thing.

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teep_
06/17/21 1:21:17 PM
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divot1338 posted...
This topic is why stp is a thing.

as well as the metric system
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awesome999
06/17/21 1:21:37 PM
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SevenTenths posted...


And you wouldn't have given 0 fucks how much volume the water was.

Well actually I did, water bottles measure by volume, not weight
4 water bottles of 2.25 litres each is 9 kgs plus some to account for the weight of the bag and the bottles themselves
Just because you don't find the metric system useful doesn't mean it isn't
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Bio1590
06/17/21 1:25:24 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...


The US uses imperial tho?


ROBANN_88 posted...


wait, is the US system and the Imperial system not the same thing?


The US system is technically called "US Customary Units" and while it and the Imperial system do share many units of measurement, there are significant differences here and there, especially when it comes to volume, which just compound as you use larger and larger measurements.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_customary_units

Like 1 US fl oz 1 UK fl oz just to start, and moving up from there something like a Pint or Gallon doesn't even contain the same number of its system's respective fl ozs (ex. 1 US Gallon is 128 US fl oz, 1 UK Gallon is 160 UK fl oz).
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SevenTenths
06/17/21 1:40:36 PM
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awesome999 posted...
Just because you don't find the metric system useful doesn't mean it isn't

Because it isn't. As in your own situation you only cared about weight. You will never tell someone I was using 9 liters of water. And if you ever did the immediate question would be, so how much did that weigh because they aren't doing the conversion and only the weight matters for the story

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awesome999
06/17/21 1:42:40 PM
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SevenTenths posted...


Because it isn't. As in your own situation you only cared about weight. You will never tell someone I was using 9 liters of water. And if you ever did the immediate question would be, so how much did that weigh because they aren't doing the conversion and only the weight matters for the story

The point is, I was able to easily able to estimate weight when incomplete information was given
Stuff like this matters, especially in my line of work
But you do you
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SevenTenths
06/17/21 1:55:19 PM
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awesome999 posted...
I was able to easily able to estimate weight

Except you didn't. Nor does the ability to estimate have anything to do with actual conversions.

I don't need to know how many fluid ounces is in a water bottle to go. This is about 5lbs. I don't need to know how many inches are in a mile to go, I ran about 2 miles today. And no one would give a fuck either.

Your line of work isn't going off your estimates. It's going off calculated conversions that doesn't care what math it has to do.

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awesome999
06/17/21 2:00:19 PM
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SevenTenths posted...


Except you didn't. Nor does the ability to estimate have anything to do with actual conversions.

I don't need to know how many fluid ounces is in a water bottle to go. This is about 5lbs. I don't need to know how many inches are in a mile to go, I ran about 2 miles today. And no one would give a fuck either.

Your line of work isn't going off your estimates. It's going off calculated conversions that doesn't care what math it has to do.

I can't tell if you're trolling me or you're actually this brainwashed...
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06/17/21 2:02:52 PM
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Bio1590
06/17/21 2:05:47 PM
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SevenTenths posted...


Except you didn't. Nor does the ability to estimate have anything to do with actual conversions.

I don't need to know how many fluid ounces is in a water bottle to go. This is about 5lbs. I don't need to know how many inches are in a mile to go, I ran about 2 miles today. And no one would give a fuck either.

Your line of work isn't going off your estimates. It's going off calculated conversions that doesn't care what math it has to do.

Literally what the fuck are you going on about
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divot1338
06/17/21 2:11:35 PM
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Im so conflicted.

On the one hand the dumbening of society is pretty horrific to watch.

On the other hand in another twenty or thirty years Ill be like Lex Luthor compared to the peabrains that will be running around.

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