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YugiNoob
06/18/21 8:26:06 PM
#252:


I hate Operation Siren and that Meta forces you to do it D:

To quote Sideshow Bob: I renew my objection to this pointless endeavor!

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Stagmar
06/18/21 8:33:53 PM
#253:


legendarylemur posted...
Also lol Alchemy Stars main story is like oh noes my race is ded :(. And in a side story on the Colossus, it's like "who stole the food from the pantry? Was it you, a giant man with cat helmet?"
Thats like the mood whiplash in Counter:Side. Spoilering some stuff in case anyone playing isnt caught up to the end of chapter 5.
Main story: The world is crap and is getting worse. The world has already ended in innumerable dimensions this way and ours is next. Meanwhile, the Player Character is manipulating everyone behind the scenes.
Event story: be the best dad in the world

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YugiNoob
06/19/21 2:08:07 AM
#254:


How does this team look for now?



Chloe then Ms. Blanc are gonna be the first to go once I find better units :<

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legendarylemur
06/19/21 2:37:44 AM
#255:


Prob pretty good. Honestly difficult to have enough resources to raise everybody as you go anyways, so having 3 main units you're pumping your resources into and the rest just being units that you need is not so bad. Ms. Blanc is so damn good cuz she makes Vice's ability do so much more damage, so it's possible you won't find somebody that fits just as well. Pretty similar to how I got my team set up too, and it's been working for me. Being in an elemental disadvantage pretty noticeably suck.

Also after having played the story, I'm a Carleen simp now. Her garter belt is amazing and she's pretty cool. Haven't pulled a 6* in about 50 rolls tho >.>

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YugiNoob
06/19/21 2:40:39 AM
#256:


I did 40 pulls and my only 6 stars were from my first roll when I got Uriel and Raphael on the former's banner lol

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YugiNoob
06/19/21 4:21:01 AM
#257:


Would you guys consider "azur lane sanctuary gross weebs keep out" a reliable source for gear advice? Like I'm looking to better equip Akagi and Kaga so I'm trying to find which planes they should have, and I'm considering the SB2C Helldiver for the Bomber slot. This is what it says:

Often considered the "best" dive bomber in the game.
Carries a ridiculous 2000lb bomb and two very adequate 500lb bombs(FYI, bomb damage increase is diminishing after 500lb. This is why fighters are considered good if they could carry the 500lb bombs).
Bomb diversity makes this bomber more adaptable to more enemy armor types, though the effect might be minor.
Although the purple SB2C is not the only carrier of the T3 2000lb bomb, it is currently the only one that carries it AND can be enhanced to +10(the other one that uses this bomb is blue locked at +6).
This turned out to be a purple plane that is stronger than gold, which might not be intuitive for new players.

Is this good and trustworthy advice or should I look for a second opinion?

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Eab1990
06/19/21 11:14:49 AM
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Funkydog
06/19/21 12:05:30 PM
#259:


Surprised it took until now for anything to happen, given the incident occurred in February. Hopefully the replacement is good, as I enjoy using Platinum as my preferred ranged unit.

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YotsuMaboroshi
06/19/21 1:04:06 PM
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YugiNoob posted...
Would you guys consider "azur lane sanctuary gross weebs keep out" a reliable source for gear advice? Like I'm looking to better equip Akagi and Kaga so I'm trying to find which planes they should have, and I'm considering the SB2C Helldiver for the Bomber slot. This is what it says:

Often considered the "best" dive bomber in the game.
Carries a ridiculous 2000lb bomb and two very adequate 500lb bombs(FYI, bomb damage increase is diminishing after 500lb. This is why fighters are considered good if they could carry the 500lb bombs).
Bomb diversity makes this bomber more adaptable to more enemy armor types, though the effect might be minor.
Although the purple SB2C is not the only carrier of the T3 2000lb bomb, it is currently the only one that carries it AND can be enhanced to +10(the other one that uses this bomb is blue locked at +6).
This turned out to be a purple plane that is stronger than gold, which might not be intuitive for new players.

Is this good and trustworthy advice or should I look for a second opinion?
First off, I've never heard of this site, so I'm not sure how reputable they are overall. The advice about the SB2C is fairly common knowledge across most AL fan sites though.

It does seem to be a bit outdated though. Aside from only mentioning +10 when gear can go to +13, the introduction of the Gear Lab added an upgrade to the SBC2 in the XSBC2. The XSBC2 is a gold plane with the same loadout as the SBC2, and is therefore strictly better since it has more AVI and can be upgraded to +13 instead of +11. SBC2 is still the second best bomber in the game though. The only times you should not be using it are if you have an XSBC2 to equip instead, or you need to adjust airstrike timing and need a faster dive bomber.

For quick reference on gear though, I just use the EN tier list (https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home). If you click on a ship's portrait, they have a ranking of the gear to use for them. I wouldn't say it's the best resource for gearing analysis, but it's decent enough if you just want a quick reference.
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YugiNoob
06/19/21 4:58:09 PM
#261:


Yeah, that site hasnt been updated for about 2 1/2 years. Thanks for that other site, its really good

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legendarylemur
06/19/21 9:34:35 PM
#262:


https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EbKnvrfYFCpoC_gb95mUprTrZVti51ovkaIMaKtfW-Q/edit#

Some Alchemy Stars guide. I think the useful 3-4* guide thing is pretty good. Seems Ms. Blanc on a water team is pretty difficult to replace. She's seemingly the most consistent orb changer on blue. From using a lot of other elements, yeah a guarantee 4 blue around you is really damn good. Also used Lightning subs and yeah Nadine and Tessa are very very useful. I haven't tried Brock, but supposedly he massively speeds up farming lul

But it seems 3-4*s don't get a secondary element. Have to wonder how much of a detriment that is.

Seems the guide is implying most 5-6*s are good tho. From experience, the skills that say like do damage til the end of stage in the 4 cardinal directions and change all those panels into one element kind of skills are really good, despite being like 4-5 cd. I think every element have at least 1 unit that does that. 6*s seem to have a bit more individuality when it comes to actives though, but 5*s seem to be similar, probably so no element is skewed in terms of balance

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YugiNoob
06/19/21 9:38:05 PM
#263:


Does having a secondary element mean that theyll do an attack if either element matches the tiles?

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legendarylemur
06/19/21 10:05:50 PM
#264:


YugiNoob posted...
Does having a secondary element mean that theyll do an attack if either element matches the tiles?
Yeah if it's like any other games, then it'll probably be like a smaller followed damage per attack

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legendarylemur
06/19/21 11:07:17 PM
#265:


YO WHO DIS



KNEES WEAK

Also green type lol. Kinda getting crowded in that element for me. Also in that 10 pull, I pulled 2 other 5*s, one a cute fire girl. It gave me 2 achievements, for pulling 3 5* or higher. Requirement says 3 5*s, but seems 6*s count too so it's really 5* or higher.

I heard there's an achievement for pulling 10 5*s or higher in a single 10 pull lmfao. Yeah... that's definitely happening



Oh wait she wants to cut me



HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Welp. I don't even want to roll anymore. Carleen is literally everything I wanted, but now I'm in a turmoil of wtf I'm supposed to do with my team

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Eab1990
06/20/21 2:36:36 AM
#266:


Summer Kyaru returns to JP Priconne.

Aside from instantly getting School Fes Chieru a while back, Ive been on a pretty bad silver streak.

Summer Saren and Suzuka were rerunning earlier, and I got two rainbow dupes, then a good 40-long streak of silver.

Meanwhile, first roll on Kyaru was the expected 9 silver/1 gold bullshit. Second roll had loading though, and introduced herself with "anta", so I knew it wasn't a spook.

While I'm at it, I may as well chronicle my luck in the past month or so. It's been on a steady decline for a while, but I think it's finally starting to bounce back.

-Genshin: Won my 50/50 with Klee (second time ever that I've won 50/50), though I had to go all the way to soft pity. Got a Skyward Atlus on standard soft pity. Also getting a 5* early-ish (~25 rolls) on standard, but it was just a damn Aquila dupe.

-FKG: Had to whale on the Walkure Romanze collab just to get the 5*, which pissed me off to no end (legit think I got like 15 spooks in those two weeks). Thankfully I made up for it by getting June Bride Lavender in 20 rolls (got spooked by a dupe Nipplewort at first).



-MGCM: UR tickets paid off quite well, with Leviathan Iko and... Rayearth? Akisa. Akisa looks like a lewd Megumin, so while I'd like to post her, I shouldn't. Kokoa also got her Xenos form, and while I got spooked twice by non-rateup URs, I got her on the second roll. Side note, this dress has one of Kokoa's rare non-vanilla scenes.



-FGO: Got my first Jeanne on LB4 part 1's gacha, who was much more preferable to the fatass. Got Arjuna Alter in 4-ish singles while aiming for Asclepius, because desire sensor, of course. Got Tesla on my birthday. It's been a weird ride.

-Eiyuu Senki: Utter garbage for the past month or two. We had 2.5 weeks of free rolls, and I managed to get jack shit that entire time. Needless to say, my motivation in that game has been shot to hell as of late.

-Mahjong: No luck, AND I've been deranking hard. I did manage to win an extremely rare yaku the other day (ryanpeiko, which is basically Seven Pairs but six of the seven pairs must be in sequence like 1-1-2-2-3-3 and 4-4-5-5-6-6), but went right back to continuing my loss streak today.

-TKFM: No luck on Summer Nana. Halfway to pity on both banners atm.
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legendarylemur
06/20/21 3:43:56 AM
#267:


In Tenka, I managed to win the lvl 60 part-time dungeon. But... a person died at literally the last attacking enemy. so sadly I can't auto it. I worked out the probabilities based on my current line-up.

So first turn, I have 36% chance of surviving with everybody alive, because if Sable or the Samurai girl asshole attacks my Lulu or Aiko, they're dead. Everybody else in my team can survive. After that, I can KO Sable, so I have 60% chance to survive the 2nd turn, which comes out to 21% to survive overall. Then I defend with S.Lulu and Salucia and attack Iris, and that's also a 60% chance to survive because Lulu and Aiko generally needs to heal and can't survive the Samurai girl's ult and Iris' attack simultaneously. That comes out to ~13%, because after this, I start to have actives and I can get to the last floor guaranteed. There is no scenario where I can lose somebody because I can burst the threats and merely defend on the healer to charge up all my skills before the next floors.

Then at the very very end, I have Shiraka left alive with Kaede, who isn't a threat, who uses an ult before I can kill her... which has 60% chance to kill somebody. Overall, I have 5% to 3* this lololol. I can obviously beef my team up but the resource dungeons are super stam cost heavy... and I'm falling behind on the summer item progression to begin with

Welp, a single upgrade pushed Lulu to be able to survive the first turn hit from Sable... I dunno how much that bumps my probability. I thiiiink that's .05/.6 * .8 which is 7%

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The Catgirl Fondler
06/20/21 6:14:55 AM
#268:


Bleh, first summer banner coming up for Fire Emblem Heroes.

All Three Houses, so no care.
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YugiNoob
06/20/21 7:49:07 AM
#269:


lol hey lemur apparently I've messaged you 18 times in GFL since January 22, 2020. One time I made what used to be my sig from my old account here, which was the Maya high-five face ( ^_^)/\(^_^ )

...The other 17 times was simply :3 lol

Also the number of :3 faces is just gonna keep going up until the bingo event goes away :3

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legendarylemur
06/20/21 7:52:34 AM
#270:


YugiNoob posted...
lol hey lemur apparently I've messaged you 18 times in GFL since January 22, 2020. One time I made what used to be my sig from my old account here, which was the Maya high-five face ( ^_^)/\(^_^ )

...The other 17 times was simply :3 lol

Also the number of :3 faces is just gonna keep going up until the bingo event goes away :3
I feel like this is a ploy to get me to dl GFL again lol, but I'm honestly juggling far too many gachas than I'm comfortable with already. But I am glad my account is of some use despite being abandoned. I still follow the subreddit for it tho lol

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YugiNoob
06/20/21 8:47:15 AM
#271:


No ploy; if anything its the opposite. Who in their right mind wants to see their messages that literally just look like this

:3

:3

:3

:3

:3

etc. lol

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legendarylemur
06/20/21 7:41:21 PM
#272:


Yeah only if I found it before you told me, then I would know there's a crazy person amogus

Meanwhile... it finally happened. The 3~8% run... So I stopped fixing my calcs cuz... I kept running into something unexpected. Like I kept changing around the way I approached 2nd and 3rd floor, like to the point of taking into account S.Lulu's 4th turn enemy debuff, which I started to time right b4 going to the 3rd floor so I can take out Shiraka immediately without wasting Salucia's ult. Basically I did so many runs that I maximized it, but it still probably only came up to about 5-6% chance of success

Anyways, I finally got 3* on it oh god... finally I can auto in peace

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legendarylemur
06/21/21 1:24:42 AM
#273:


Ok I don't even know what's going on, but pulled another 6* in Alchemy Stars, this time a water girl named Connolly. She's followed by giant oboes with... eh? Ghost tentacles?

But lol her kit is literally just damage. The end. Literally nothing else, though her equipment might give her some other thingies. I imagine that means she's pretty powerful, since she's a 6*.

Yeah I can't even build all these folks. I'm pretty sure I'm pretty far above the expected returns. I think around a 100 rolls or 110 or so total, and I got 5 6*s

Oh... they're water tentacles. But why tentacles

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YugiNoob
06/21/21 9:58:51 PM
#274:


So does UR gear in Illusion Connect level up like normal gear? Like you use amulets or other gear, go 10 levels, then you need another copy? Because that would seem insanely hard to do and I want boobie mousepad :<



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legendarylemur
06/22/21 12:47:32 AM
#275:


It levels up to 30 (I don't entirely remember but I think you only need gold to upgrade), then you need an inscription. It's easier honestly, but I've been kiiinda skimping out on the inscriptions so it's stuck on lvl 30 lmao, but pretty good stats and worth the sacrifices imo

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YugiNoob
06/22/21 1:04:08 AM
#276:


Wait, why can't I choose a third pair of boots? I have 3 SSR boots and I think that's all I need in addition to the core, right? It's not even showing the third pair; I could manually unlock and select the first two though.

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legendarylemur
06/22/21 1:45:42 AM
#277:


Hmmm maybe you got it equipped? I'd double check if it's being used for anything, or just unlock what you want to sacrifice from the inventory screen. I vaguely remember running into a similar problem but I just had to unequip I think.

Also, in Alchemy Stars, I thought I'd try a full 6* team for funsies and... oh boy... it almost feels like I've opened some kind of a forbidden fruit or something because this team is scarily good. My elements are fire(lead)/water/water/grass/grass too, which makes it so water and grass tiles let 3 ppl do damage, and I still have the option of lead changing for my fire lead to be a sub. Of course electric tiles are duds, but it ends up working out because they can be fodder for aurora time.

It's a bit of a shame cuz I quite like my water team that I worked on for the last 2 days, but... also all the 6*s are waifus... argh I dunno

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YugiNoob
06/22/21 2:32:05 AM
#278:


I dont think so. See I have these three, but it doesnt even show those level 10 boots in the selection screen :<



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legendarylemur
06/22/21 2:40:33 AM
#279:


The level 10 boots is locked, so it wouldn't show up

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YugiNoob
06/22/21 2:56:56 AM
#280:


But the other stuff showed up when they were locked and I just unlocked them; the level 10 boots never showed up at all :<

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legendarylemur
06/22/21 4:11:05 AM
#281:


Yeah I think it's just a weird UI thing. You should be able to use that lvl 10 boots for the boobpad tho

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YugiNoob
06/22/21 4:20:08 AM
#282:


But I can't use it since it doesn't show up D:

Is this just a glitch that's screwing me out of boobs? I am outraged!

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legendarylemur
06/22/21 5:19:56 AM
#283:


Maybe you can ask on reddit. I'm honestly not 100% sure. If you unlock it, it should absolutely show up as an option. You can always just buy an SSR boots from the shop though. Should cost 200 of those rare spirit looking things, but if you do exploration everyday, it only takes like 5 explorations with the extra benefits

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legendarylemur
06/22/21 5:27:14 AM
#284:


One thing for Alchemy Stars, if you beat Ch 8, which is the furthest content in the main story so far, you unlock some side quests to get really powerful 6*s for free. There's one per element, and they all seem to use the same token or status or whatever, and you can get all of them, just that you have to do them one by one.

Seems it's semi-recommended to go for them asap, because some of the events are time-gated, and your current actions won't count towards the quests. But I've also heard there's no real benefit to getting them asap.

Probably for people who want to fill up their team, and this will probably be the primer units

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YugiNoob
06/22/21 5:39:05 AM
#285:


Wait is there a different way to unlock gear than what I've been doing? I've just been trying to press the little lock icon like I have with every other piece of gear :<

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legendarylemur
06/22/21 6:34:28 AM
#286:


Try to like forge it, and there's a way to unlock. I'm not sure if clicking the little lock will do it on every UI, which is annoying. When you're sacrificing a dupe for an upgrade, it lets you unlock on that screen, too. But on the inventory, I don't think you can. Gotta click forge then unlock, I'm pretty sure

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YugiNoob
06/22/21 6:45:27 AM
#287:


Eh, I just bought an SSR box from the exchange. I was getting sick of that shit <_<

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Stagmar
06/22/21 1:00:56 PM
#288:


Next collab for Azur Lane is idolm@ster. Not particularly interesting for me.

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legendarylemur
06/22/21 2:49:23 PM
#289:


Oh IC collabing with Re:Zero. Thankfully I don't really care about that series

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Calwings
06/22/21 4:02:37 PM
#290:


https://i.imgur.com/mXDxF8u.jpg

I haven't talked about it much since I started playing it, but D4DJ is really fun. I haven't put this much time into a rhythm game since Guitar Hero 3.

My end goal for this game is to clear every song on Expert and full combo every song on Hard, since I think trying to full combo every song on Expert is far beyond my skill ceiling. So far, I've full comboed every song on Easy/Normal and every song up to difficulty 10 on Hard. It's funny how some songs are so much harder than others overall that their difficulty rating on one level is higher than some other songs on the next level. Touhou songs in particular are a bitch... Love-Colored Master Spark is a difficulty 10 on Normal, which is higher than like half of the songs in the game on Hard and the same as the lowest one on Expert. It's a 13+ on Hard and a 15 on Expert, which absolutely terrifies me.

Anyone else here playing D4DJ? Or any past BanG Dream players who can also share my pain from playing a similar rhythm game?
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Funkydog
06/22/21 5:33:08 PM
#291:


Decided to do one ten pull on Mountain's banner in Arknights and luck was with me and got him. And damn is he good. Makes me wish Indra was as good, as adore her aesthetic.

Also got some 1* called Skadi? Interesting. Actually found her alright so far at E1 despite her reputation of being the worst 6* do wonder if I'd actually use her over all the others though, and never got her skin so even bigger loss :(

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YugiNoob
06/22/21 5:35:17 PM
#292:


I did the same thing and got Mountain too lol

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LordFarquad1312
06/22/21 7:46:25 PM
#293:


Pretty lucky with my yolo pull

Next is my girl Karyl!


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Eab1990
06/22/21 8:02:48 PM
#294:


Oh, Pecos gacha ended?

I suppose I should quit this farce then. I was never gonna run both JP and NA Priconne at once.
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The Catgirl Fondler
06/22/21 11:02:13 PM
#295:


SMT Liberation's next collab is coming and its... not something I was expecting.

https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/sp/news/detail/088078.html

Of all the Sega franchises they could pull from. Lol, this is both ridiculous and amazing.
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legendarylemur
06/22/21 11:06:31 PM
#296:


https://i.redd.it/ncm4o6fp4t671.jpg

lol this game is hopscotch after all

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YugiNoob
06/23/21 8:31:22 AM
#297:


GOD I hate how RNGesus can be the biggest deciding factor in Alchemy Stars. That stage with Philex and Vani was pissing me off so much because I could never beat it with 6 turns remaining, and then finally I get a good start and win in 2 turns <_<

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Stagmar
06/23/21 12:35:01 PM
#298:


Today at least they weren't kidding when they called the new Priconne dungeon extreme. My lv102 team was almost entirely wiped out by the first team which was lv66...

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LordFarquad1312
06/23/21 12:36:49 PM
#299:


Stagmar posted...
Today at least they weren't kidding when they called the new Priconne dungeon extreme. My lv102 team was almost entirely wiped out by the first team which was lv66...
I'll give it a go tonight. I'm more scared by the boss, it took me a while to clear the last one for the first time.

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Stagmar
06/23/21 12:43:13 PM
#300:


LordFarquad1312 posted...
I'll give it a go tonight. I'm more scared by the boss, it took me a while to clear the last one for the first time.
Boss is lv120. I barely left a dent.

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YotsuMaboroshi
06/23/21 1:11:27 PM
#301:


The main issue with the boss is that when there are around 10s left he does a lightning AOE that's supposed to wipe your team to prevent zombie cheese like you could do with the VH dungeon boss, forcing you to use multiple teams.

OTOH, once you get the boss down to 50% health, Miyako can solo the boss due to ghost form lining up with the lightning on full auto, it'll just take forever to finish. It requires a 10-3 Miyako though, and I'm not sure if there's a star requirement or not.
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