Current Events > Gacha Game General Topic 18: ''Assert your dominance''

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I hate you >:(

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Holy shit how long has the vending machine been respawning I just noticed lmao

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Since the last update I think lol. I've redeemed it a few times but 750k everyday is a bit hefty

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In tonight's Azur Lane update they are going to optimize daily missions in some way. This most likely means they are going to break them in the process and have to do some emergency patches throughout the day to try and fix them.

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Stagmar posted...

In tonight's Azur Lane update they are going to optimize daily missions in some way. This most likely means they are going to break them in the process and have to do some emergency patches throughout the day to try and fix them.

Woohoo! Optimized dailies AND free oil/gold :3

Seriously the 200+ pulls going for New Jersey drained my resources like fuck :<

Also Im sad that this game is so stingy with gems. Even GFL gives free weekly gems, even if its a paltry 30.

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Has anyone here been playing Counter:Side? If so, how is your experience and do you think it's a future proof game?

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Today's rotating map in Arknights ain't fun. Those damn speedy wraiths!

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Stagmar posted...

In tonight's Azur Lane update they are going to optimize daily missions in some way. This most likely means they are going to break them in the process and have to do some emergency patches throughout the day to try and fix them.

For anyone curious about exactly what changes they are making, this post details them: https://www.reddit.com/r/AzureLane/comments/nw081v/june_10_maintenance_summary/

Funkydog posted...

Today's rotating map in Arknights ain't fun. Those damn speedy wraiths!

W takes care of them pretty well :3

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YugiNoob posted...

W takes care of them pretty well :3

I keep getting bad luck with her mines, and even throwing down a pusher, puller, using ethan and Ceoboe's binds ain't enough :( Might try with W's 3rd skill as well, see if that works out better.

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Apple pie or Blaze also helps :3

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But I've gone so long without using supporters!

I was gonna trying seeing if I could find a Saria with the slow skill on as well, as not being able to use supporters drastically lowers who can slow them down.

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The-19th-Sparta posted...

Has anyone here been playing Counter:Side? If so, how is your experience and do you think it's a future proof game?

Ive been playing it since it launched in SEA region (which is in English) 2 weeks ago and Im quite enjoying it. It looks great imo, has an interesting dark story and interesting characters. The world has gone to shit and most characters are harboring secrets. There are male, female, and mechanized units divided into Counters (people with superhuman abilities), Soldiers, and Mech (drones, tanks, helicopters, and at least one Mech which Ill post further down). The game has been out in Korea for a year and a half and Taiwan for six months and apparently doing well. No global version is announced yet, but as I said SEA is in English and reads well with few awkward sounding sentences.

I dont like the live PVP at all cause I suck at it, but I always hate PVP. Every 6 hours 150 reward points are added and caps at 600 and your matches deplete that. You can get the max daily currency whether you win or lose, you just have to do fewer matches if you win. For example at my rank winning gives you 80 reward points and losing 60, so two wins or three losses give you the 150. You miss out on the higher monthly rank rewards by losing, but I dont really care at the moment. Other things I dont like are the random gear stats and set bonuses, a monthly battle pass that you have to pay the equivalent of $8US to get the character from (no idea if every pass will have a character), and after todays update they added a banner that uses paid currency, but has a once a day free draw plus tickets that we get from monthly login rewards, PvP currency, and buying packages with the free premium currency. Apparently F2P players can get about half the pity amount of rolls during the banner, but Im kind of skeptical about that. Also were moving at an accelerated banner pace to catch up. It seems a little fast to me. None of those are necessary for PvE, which is what I care about.

While I do think starting it now is fine, and probably better than waiting due to the amount of content being added, the best time to start for the moment ended before maintenance today when the 160 free rolls for launch ended.

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I forgot the pics. Heres the mech Titan

I forgot to mention, Truck-kun isnt top tier :(

i also missed a source for the tickets. Daily missions now give some. Thats included in the half of pity amount. Another downside is the chat filter in the SEA region is interesting.
Dont attack your own raids becomes dont attack yo** own r****.

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@Stagmar Thank you for the very detailed answer! I do appreciate it. I'll go ahead and give C:S a shot, it looks great, even if it's just limited to PC for me atm (I'm a filthy iPhone user). I do worry about my mobile games being future proof because I don't like my hard work going to waste after a couple years, but i'll trust that if it's still alive and well in KR, it probably has a good life ahead of it.

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Woohoo I was pulling on the selected banner for Twin Flora and I got Kasumi lol

Also what the hell is the SP rarity?

I also did 3 more pulls just to get the 50 selected summons quest and got Anna. I always needed a healer, but is she any good?

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YugiNoob posted...

Woohoo I was pulling on the selected banner for Twin Flora and I got Kasumi lol

Also what the hell is the SP rarity?

I also did 3 more pulls just to get the 50 selected summons quest and got Anna. I always needed a healer, but is she any good?

So I got pity for Twin Flora >.>, and trying her out, she's basically a much stronger version of the regular Flora, who summons like the girl and the puppet when the main unit dies. Twin Flora is a bit more damage oriented and puts like a token in your hand that you can put anywhere, and unlike regular Flora, the token can also use the unique skill. But Twin Flora is a sorcerer type where Flora is a summoner, and they're considered separate units. The bio suggests that it's Flora like a year later and some mysterious things happened to make Twin Flora happen.

So it's just like a really good SSR.

Anna is one of the best healers, so that's a great roll btw. Kasumi of course op

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Bah.

Anti-desire sensor at work again.



I needed this luck for Genshin, not FGO.

In my infrequent travels to revisit old gachas I put a lot of time into, I downloaded FFBE again. Been two years. Gumi is famous for their power creep and new unit rarities, and I see that is the case once again here. It'll take me a bit to wrap my head around it all to see if I can make sense of the Neo Vision units and their awakening system.

In Azur Lane news, I got Ibuki. One last PR1 ship left. Current event is extended another week, though I'm not sure what the reason would be.

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Shadow20201 posted...

Current event is extended another week, though I'm not sure what the reason would be.

The event is for CN anniversary, but they've had university exams. The extension is so that they have more time for the event, and JP/EN just followed to keep the servers relatively sync'd.

God dang I can see why Kasumi is so good now lol. And I guess it's fortunate that I got Anna to help keep her life topped off when she hurts herself lol

Granted most characters still die when Seeger enters the fray :<

But Seeger is basically a last ditch nuke to say fuck it I'm taking all your guys down with me lol. Although on the plus side, on the rare occasions that her rage builds enough to use her skill, she'll just nuke the opponent's side and leave your team alone :D

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Got 3 Arjuna alters, 1 Hercules, 1 Lakshmi

My ex rank luck strikes again.
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I forgot to mention, I got AA in four singles.

I was just aiming for Asclepius, dammit.

Scathach sure making quick work of these archer bosses. I just need to clear 2 more segments of section 17 and I'll have the eggs I need to get AA to level 90...

Out of AP...
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https://twitter.com/kanpani_STAFF/status/1403192768500011008

Damn.

Kanpani Girls, one of DMMs oldest games, is finally biting the dust.

YES at last I finished the first chapter in Operation Siren. Now I can grind for Helena and forget the rest of OS exists :D

Or actually wait...How do I get more bosses to grind? I used my 3 assists, but I only killed the first tutorial boss that was mine. I can get 2 of my own per day, right?

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Don't high-level OS containment areas have more crates to find, and thus, a quicker way to fight METAs? I stopped advancing on the fourth chapter to avoid reset items, personally, so I just go back and forth between LV5 areas on auto-battle.

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YugiNoob posted...

YES at last I finished the first chapter in Operation Siren. Now I can grind for Helena and forget the rest of OS exists :D

Or actually wait...How do I get more bosses to grind? I used my 3 assists, but I only killed the first tutorial boss that was mine. I can get 2 of my own per day, right?

You get more boss attempts by farming coordinate loggers. (Up to 200/day for 2 raids.) These are gained by completing missions given by ports, picking up crates in maps, or clearing Siren mirror zones. These mirror zones have a yellow chest over them on the map and can only be entered once, but give out a very high number of coordinate loggers.
Additionally, you get 3 Assist attempts on other people's meta raid per day which doesn't require loggers, and it gives you a smaller amount than defeating your own version. The level of the boss raid (1 to 15) determine how much data sync points you get. You don't have to defeat the boss to get the points, it's based on damage dealt.

Shotgunnova posted...

Don't high-level OS containment areas have more crates to find, and thus, a quicker way to fight METAs? I stopped advancing on the fourth chapter to avoid reset items, personally, so I just go back and forth between LV5 areas on auto-battle.

This is correct. Higher level zones give more coordinates and cost more oil. Also, you shouldn't worry about the reset as you can spend 5000 Oil on an item that basically 'unlocks' the whole map for you and gives you high combat bonuses so you can pick up where you left off. Then again, this is pretty much only recommended if you want to hit level 6+ zones and strongholds for gear blueprints.

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Fuck so I still need to do OS stuff :<

On a Guardian Tales note, I'm reworking my 3 teams so that they can all do a full chain. Is it better to just pop through the skills as fast as possible during raids rather than delaying them to stun the boss longer since it's timed?

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YugiNoob posted...

Fuck so I still need to do OS stuff :<

The Auto-search function introduced recently is a god send. But still time consuming as you probably have to clear a small number of maps to fill up your logging points.


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Dang I can't seem to get a decent third team chain. I have Future Knight > Beth > Lilith > FK > Noxia and Lupina > Bari > Karina > Lupina > Miya. Third team is Tinia/Future Princess/Nari/Plitvice but there's no way to make a full chain from them. God damn airborne is such an annoying state to chain off of :<

If I replace either Princess or Plitvice with Marina I could go Tinia > FP/Plitvice > Nari > Marina > Tinia. But I like both Future Princess and Plitvice :((

I would only be willing to use Marina if her shark costume comes back :3

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Yeah you just kinda have to accept that full team chains are not gonna be likely most of the time. It's a good damage increase but it won't beat improved dps from like an actual good comp

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Also Sakura Wars gacha is offering an offline version for the fans, as long as you completed the prologue, which is supposedly quite long.

From the reddit comments though, I found it pretty funny that the director straight up confirmed that a Hololive collab was happening without ever having discussed it with the Holo members or Cover or even his own company lol. Supposedly this guy has done this before on some other project, and somehow he's never been fully canned

I guess that sorta explains why Marine or Fubuki never streamed this game ever again despite being a huge Sakura Wars fan

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Speaking of a good team comp, is my main team of Future Knight/Beth/Lilith/Noxia good? They have Shine Spark together, and I think one of them buffs other Dark teammates. Noxia's undead simp can draw attention and I think Beth lowers Dark resistance so 3/4 of the team will be doing extra damage most of the time.

TBH I think Lupina would be better than Future Knight since she fills the role of ranged DPS but is also Dark so she gets the buffs from the team. But she can't get a full chain in that comp. Also I just like Future Knight a lot :3

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Seems pretty good. Usually though for Colosseum, Future Princess is a bit too good as a lead to pass her up because she fills every single role by herself, and you want her alive and doing the most damage. The reason Beth doesn't see as much use as how good she is is primarily because she matches poorly against Future Princess. She will probably make a comeback once a better lead comes along, but FP might also stay because without her, Beth becomes really powerful. That's how metas roll I guess

However, usually you want to go either full melee, full ranged, or full general utility like crit up or wep regen or hp/def or obviously mono-elem. I don't know off the top of my head which buffs Noxia and Lilith give, but to do a lot of damage with FK, you need at least one other buff for her, like crit rate or basic up or range up. I dunno it's not 100% necessary since you'll have a ton of damage with Beth and Lilith. Maybe it's fine. FK is definitely the slight bit of a mismatch on the team, and as you've said, you might have a slightly better win rate with Lupina imo, but I can't know for sure cuz I haven't used all of them myself. Dark teams tend to lead with Arabelle though because she's the supreme dps machine. Mono-dark is honestly great in general despite FP

At the end of the day though, if you want FK on your team, you should put her there. It's not like she's bad for anything, cuz wep regen is a great party buff, and FK fits on every team even without too much buff on her. Sadly Lupina will definitely have to be the one that's benched of the 3. I really don't know how good Lilith is though lmao but she's more modern than Lupina so I imagine Lilith is better

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gg birthday luck

This pic is amazing lmao



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Please tell me I'm misunderstanding the Meta coordinates thing...Can you only store 100 at a time? Meaning you have to get 100 then challenge the boss, get another 100, then challenge the boss again? And if that's the case, can you at least store 100 for the next day after your two boss fights?

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YugiNoob posted...

Meaning you have to get 100 then challenge the boss, get another 100, then challenge the boss again?

Yes

YugiNoob posted...

And if that's the case, can you at least store 100 for the next day after your two boss fights?

No, but you can preemptively enter a fresh sector to farm before the next rollover begins. That gives some time to regen AP (or whatever that stat is) in the meantime.

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God dammit :<

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YugiNoob posted...

Please tell me I'm misunderstanding the Meta coordinates thing...Can you only store 100 at a time? Meaning you have to get 100 then challenge the boss, get another 100, then challenge the boss again? And if that's the case, can you at least store 100 for the next day after your two boss fights?

Just in case there's any confusion, strictly by the sentences you typed; You're allowed unlimited attempts (that cost a small amount of Oil) to defeat the Meta boss. But you unlock the boss by getting the 100 coordinates. Perhaps you already knew that, and I'm reading too much into what you typed. Just wanted to make sure everything was clear.

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Yeah I got that, thanks :3

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Just to expand on what others have said, once you spend 100 coordinates to unlock a fight, you have 24 hours to get the boss's HP to 0 after unlocking them, either through challenging it yourself or from assists. You can collect the coordinates for your second unlock while you have your first battle open, but you won't be able to use them until your first battle is defeated.

Any coordinates you have not spent at the end of the day will remain in your inventory until you spend them, but you still can't collect any more coordinates after you've spent 200 in a day.

Don't worry about running out of sectors to clear for coordinates. You can always spend AP to re-enter a Secured sector to do fights and collect crates there again. The only real difference between an Explorable sector and a Secured sector is that an Explorable sector has promoted Pawns and fog of war.

A few more notes unrelated to the coordinates, since this is the first time you've participated in a showdown:

• The level of the boss, and the amount of sync points it gives, are dependent on how many times you've unlocked and defeated her. The enemy levels and rewards for defeating them are listed at https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/META_Lab#Boss_Levels
• After Helena META has been available in the showdown for 30 days, your own attempts on the boss will gain a support barrage that deals damage to the boss, which helps lower level players defeat high level bosses without relying so much on assistance from other players. This barrage will get stronger each day the Helena META showdown remains open.

That barrage thing sounds like a good idea on their part so new people dont get left in the dust :3

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HOLY I finally got a Leader tag in Tenka lmfao. I got it with Support and Flat Tits too lmfao, which freaking guaranteed me Daphne Bloom. God I put a bit more than I was comfortable with in her banner and didn't get her. Now... I have a bit of an alternative option for Summer Lulu team, but I guess I'll have to see if it's worth replacing Satan... considering she's my best unit overall

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D4DJ: Groovy Mix added a bunch of new songs today, including covers of one of my favorite Symphogear songs and one of my favorite BanG Dream songs. Besides that, nothing else interesting in the games I'm playing. PriConne and Tenkafuma are still in the middle of their summer events, and Revue Starlight is in the middle of a material-gathering event vaguely tied to the game's main story.

legendarylemur posted...

HOLY I finally got a Leader tag in Tenka lmfao. I got it with Support and Flat Tits too lmfao, which freaking guaranteed me Daphne Bloom. God I put a bit more than I was comfortable with in her banner and didn't get her. Now... I have a bit of an alternative option for Summer Lulu team, but I guess I'll have to see if it's worth replacing Satan... considering she's my best unit overall

Congrats on the good luck.
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I dunno how long I've been playing Tenka but goddamn that was a lot of tries for a single Leader tag. I was confused too, thought it was the guarantee 2* one

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I like Helena Meta's skills. She has both a special barrage and All Out Assault. Actually I just like special barrages in general :3

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Is it supposed to take a long time to get Meta coordinates? Im running out of AP :<

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You get coordinates from those floating crates on the maps. I don't think fighting enemies gives them, but I could be wrong. Easy regions probably just give crappy rewards compared to the AP it takes to do 'em, I guess.

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