Poll of the Day > Arizona will now EXECUTE Inmates using the same GAS that the NAZI'S USED!!!

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Arizona is stockpiling lethal gasses ahead of his resumption of executions including Zyklon B gas used by the NAZIS that killed nearly one million Jewish people in Auschwitz!!

Arizona's Dept of Corrections spent more than $2000 on the ingredients for hydrogen cyanide, a deadly gas favoured by the Nazi's during the Holocaust

Arizona suspended executions in 2014 after it botched the execution of Joseph Wood that took 2 hours for him to nearly die because of an error with his dose

The last person to be executed by gas was German national Walter LaGrand in 1999 who died in an agonizing choking and gagging death that last 18 MINUTES from the moment the gas entered the chamber

The state like many others are trying to find new methods of execution in its 115 death row inmates including the use of experimental drugs

They also bought a solid brick of potassium cyanide in December for 1530 and 1.5 million on a batch of pentobartial that uses to sedate inmates during execution

They have been conducting tests on its mothballed gas chamber at the state prison in Florence

When LaGrand was killed in 1999 from a gas chamber, Patty Machelor, a writer for the Tucson Citizen described his execution as horrific to witness

Arizona has already selected 2 inmates to go first out of the 115 they are executing.

Former Late Arizona Senator, John McCain who himself was tortured for years while held captive in Vietnam said he supported the death penalty for certain crimes but said there are some methods not acceptable way of carrying it out for people to die in pain

Do you think this is disgusting?

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I wonder why they dont just use a high dose of Fentanyl. Just make them have a huge opioid OD. Seems much simpler and you could argue its painless.

GameLord113 posted...

I wonder why they dont just use a high dose of Fentanyl. Just make them have a huge opioid OD. Seems much simpler and you could argue its painless.

But then they would feel good for like, two seconds

That's two more seconds of painless living that we won't or can't afford to give them!

Plus. China's made enough money already. </s *>

*Actually, I have no idea. Considering it would probably only cost about two cents anyway. **

**Actually, I really have no idea.

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Arizona is so fucking weird I can't wait to leave

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Full Throttle posted...

Do you think this is disgusting?

Compared to the normal death penalty? Not really. Do I think the death penalty is disgusting? Yes.

Otherwise I'm sure a lot of nations do the same things that Nazis did, because most things aren't exclusively Nazi. People will mention the association for shock value, but ultimately it just takes away from the evil that Nazis represent which is inherently problematic. We really shouldn't be diluting that.

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They say the classics never go out of style

The Nazi gas chambers weren't abhorrent because of the gas used, they were abhorrent because they were used to perpetrate genocide. If we've already accepted that the death penalty is okay (which there's ample room to debate, but for the purposes of this discussion that's a reasonable premise to start from), I don't see that using gas to carry it out is particularly worse than any other method, unless it's slower and/or more painful than alternatives.

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An only racist state government wants to use Nazi gas on their interned minority population, opps "prisoners", I'm not surprised.

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The problem with these people is that they want killing people to be clean. Regardless of suffering etc it's more about optics with these frauds. Some of the most efficient and quick ways to kill someone are messy. I don't support the death penalty but beheading someone instantly does the trick. Guillotine? But we can't appear to be barbaric can we.

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Eight US states were carrying out executions using hydrogen cyanide gas even before WWII. Not everything needs to be tenuously linked somehow to Auschwitz to make a case against it.

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Well, I suppose it'll be a great way to disprove the Holocaust denier theory that Zyklon B can't kill people.

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People are REALLY easy to kill, you have to really suck to fail at an execution... like REALLY suck. Suck so hard that you should be put in prison just for sucking that hard

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Why don't they just use a simple asphyxiant like nitrogen? It's cheap, available almost everywhere, and most people who are exposed to pure nitrogen never even realize what's happening until they pass out. Because the body is still able to breathe out carbon dioxide, the hypercapnic alarm response is never triggered and the victim never feels like they are suffocating. Suddenly breathing pure inert gas can cause unconsciousness in just a few breaths and death within a few minutes.

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What if they just didnt kill people. Wouldnt that be fucking wild

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Mead posted...

What if they just didnt kill people. Wouldnt that be fucking wild

For the most part yeah but I think the D penalty should be reserved for *egregious crimes that were irrefutably committed by the accused.

*=you know like people that killed their whole family, etc.


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I'm pro death penalty (my wife wasn't).

In fact, I'd go further.

Any sentence of over 5 years should have the alternative of the death penalty if you would prefer.

Any Sentence of over 20 years should instead just be the death penalty.

Full serious investigate and quick appeals should be done (would still cost WAY less then having someone on death row for years), and all such cases should be done within a year.

Don't commit crimes, or prepare to DIE!!

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wolfy42 posted...

Any sentence of over 5 years should have the alternative of the death penalty if you would prefer.

Any Sentence of over 20 years should instead just be the death penalty.

Full serious investigate and quick appeals should be done (would still cost WAY less then having someone on death row for years), and all such cases should be done within a year.

Don't commit crimes, or prepare to DIE!!

I definitely disagree with this...
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I support death as a punishment so no. And it sounds pretty tame to me anyways.

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Yeah, I don't see why they don't just use fentanyl or nitrogen, or just use a firing squad. "Gas chamber" execution is a phrase that's forever tainted w/ the mass murder of innocent people, and I doubt it's as quick and painless as the other options.

Also, I kinda want them to switch to fentanyl, just to see if the opioid companies have the audacity to refuse to sell it to law enforcement because, "we don't make our products to kill people!"

GEKGanon posted...

Well, I suppose it'll be a great way to disprove the Holocaust denier theory that Zyklon B can't kill people.

They can step into a chamber themselves to prove how safe it is, if they want.

wolfy42 posted...

I'm pro death penalty (my wife wasn't).

In fact, I'd go further.

Any sentence of over 5 years should have the alternative of the death penalty if you would prefer.

Any Sentence of over 20 years should instead just be the death penalty.

Full serious investigate and quick appeals should be done (would still cost WAY less then having someone on death row for years), and all such cases should be done within a year.

Don't commit crimes, or prepare to DIE!!

Yeah, this is insane. Hell no. I support the death penalty, but this is ridiculous.

US police use the same class of chemically propelled projectiles in their firearms that the Nazis did. Stay tuned for more on the next episode of "stupid titles generate more clicks"

"Arizona will now EXECUTE Inmates using the same GAS that the NAZI'S USED!!!"

Blah, blah, blah. Who cares if the Nazis used it? Just because evil incarnate used something, doesn't mean it's automatically bad. And the methods used by the Nazis might even be the better option, given how effecient the chemicals are, especially since you don't need the doctors who refuse to help with the death penalty.
And let's face it, compared to the more creative historical methods of execution, I'd rather suffer a botched drug execution than Hanging, Drawing, and Quartering. Or worse, crucifixion.

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captpackrat posted...

Why don't they just use a simple asphyxiant like nitrogen? It's cheap, available almost everywhere, and most people who are exposed to pure nitrogen never even realize what's happening until they pass out. Because the body is still able to breathe out carbon dioxide, the hypercapnic alarm response is never triggered and the victim never feels like they are suffocating. Suddenly breathing pure inert gas can cause unconsciousness in just a few breaths and death within a few minutes.

tbh, it seems like there are a lot of really easy ways they could carry out this barbaric practice without reinventing the wheel.

deoxxys posted...

For the most part yeah but I think the D penalty should be reserved for *egregious crimes that were irrefutably committed by the accused.

*=you know like people that killed their whole family, etc.

I wouldn't even do that. If it's to be used at all, it should be reserved for people who present a continuing major threat to society even from behind bars, like leaders of criminal or terrorist organizations who can find ways to influence people on the outside or serve as symbols. If you can safely lock somebody up to prevent them from causing any more harm, then you should just do that.


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G Admiral Thrawn posted...

Just because evil incarnate used something, doesn't mean it's automatically bad.

It doesnt help the case

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