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Intro2Logic
05/15/21 6:54:08 PM
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https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-evacuations-world-news-ap-top-news-gaza-27d7ad6c70fabe0ad34e37013a364ca4?
My colleagues shouts awakened me, and the pounding of my heart drowned out the racing of my mind. What was happening? Had someone been injured on the streets of Gaza City, or worse?

It was 1:55 p.m. on Saturday. I had been napping on the upper floor of the two-floor penthouse that served as The Associated Press offices in Gaza City since 2006. This was not unusual in recent days; since fighting began earlier this month, I had been sleeping in our news bureau until early afternoon, then working through the night.

I hurried downstairs and saw my colleagues donning helmets and protective vests. They were shouting: Evacuation! Evacuation!

The Israeli military, I would learn later, had targeted our building for destruction and offered up a brief advance warning: They had taken out three buildings so far this week, warning residents and occupants sometimes minutes beforehand to get out. Hurriedly, I was told: You have 10 minutes.

What did I need? I grabbed my laptop and a few other pieces of electronics. What else? I looked at the workspace that had been mine for years, brimming with mementos from friends, family and colleagues. I chose just a handful: a decorative plate bearing a picture of my family. A coffee mug given me by my daughter, now living safely in Canada with her sister and my wife since 2017. A certificate marking five years of employment at AP.

I started to leave. Then I looked back at this place that had been my second home for years. I realized this was the last time I might ever see it. It was just after 2 p.m. I looked around. I was the last person there.

I put on my helmet. And I ran.

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Smashingpmkns
05/15/21 6:56:53 PM
#203:


You're a real scumfuck if you defend this shit.
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CommunismFTW
05/15/21 7:08:06 PM
#204:


Absolutely fucking disgusting.

Protip: If any Western media article cites "terrorism" as it's reason why, for anything, they're lying.

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Smashingpmkns
05/15/21 7:25:05 PM
#206:


It's probably best to not give attention to users that type out "*shrugs*" in response to ethnic cleansing.
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Antifar
05/15/21 9:31:02 PM
#207:


Compare/contrast
https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1393707044251881472

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cjsdowg
05/15/21 11:46:49 PM
#208:


Fuck Biden.
Besides Sanders and AOC . Very few people on the Left have the backbone to stand up to Israel for some reason. Shame on them.

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Payzmaykr
05/15/21 11:47:48 PM
#209:


CommunismFTW posted...
Absolutely fucking disgusting.

Protip: If any Western media article cites "terrorism" as it's reason why, for anything, they're lying.
The western media is the last place to check to find any truth in this.
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Wagger_25
05/15/21 11:48:32 PM
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CommunismFTW posted...
Absolutely fucking disgusting.

Protip: If any Western media article cites "terrorism" as it's reason why, for anything, they're lying.


I bet you support what China is doing

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ChocoboMog123
05/15/21 11:57:18 PM
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scar the 1
05/16/21 4:14:36 AM
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"having your workplace and equipment destroyed doesn't affect your ability to do journalism" is not the smartest take I've seen for a while

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King_Hellebuyck
05/16/21 6:03:40 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
"having your workplace and equipment destroyed doesn't affect your ability to do journalism" is not the smartest take I've seen for a while
Without a doubt one of the dumbest thing Ive ever heard anyone say. Pure cognitive dissonance.

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scar the 1
05/16/21 6:28:48 AM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
Without a doubt one of the dumbest thing Ive ever heard anyone say. Pure cognitive dissonance.
I've certainly come to expect smarter posts from that person over the years

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Orchestrion
05/16/21 7:59:55 AM
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1337toothbrush
05/16/21 8:07:03 AM
#216:


cjsdowg posted...
Fuck Biden.
Besides Sanders and AOC . Very few people on the Left have the backbone to stand up to Israel for some reason. Shame on them.
That's the thing, Sanders, AOC, and Tlaib are among the few who are actually on the left in the democrat party. Biden is certainly not a leftist.

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SiO4
05/16/21 1:14:57 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
Tlaib


Totally off-topic, but holy shit we have the exact same birthday.
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Smashingpmkns
05/16/21 1:31:56 PM
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It's pretty silly people actually believe Hamas was in that building lol
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Broseph_Stalin
05/16/21 1:46:24 PM
#219:


cjsdowg posted...
Besides Sanders and AOC . Very few people on the Left have the backbone to stand up to Israel for some reason. Shame on them.

Did you ever think that maybe if only a few people who are generally wrong about most things are doing something that maybe it might not be the right take? Like maybe there actually is "some reason" the majority think otherwise?

Orchestrion posted...
@Broseph_Stalin thoughts on this?

How would AP know what every single person in a high-rise was doing at any given moment? This wasn't a single office used by just the AP and you know that, you're just being obtuse. Also when are you going to tell us where you think Hamas operates out of?

Smashingpmkns posted...
It's pretty silly people actually believe Hamas was in that building lol

your intuition doesn't exactly have the best track record my guy
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King_Hellebuyck
05/16/21 1:50:33 PM
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Im not defending it, Im just asking questions, he says prior to defending this for 2 days following a statement that was in no way a question

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Broseph_Stalin
05/16/21 1:56:07 PM
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And I wasn't defending Israel bombing a media building for no reason.

It just turns out it wasn't a "media building" and there was a very good reason for targeting it.
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Hornezz
05/16/21 2:06:05 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
It just turns out it wasn't a "media building" and there was a very good reason for targeting it.
You really shouldn't be repeating this as if it was a fact without any evidence backing it up.

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Ruvan22
05/16/21 2:08:55 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
And I wasn't defending Israel bombing a media building for no reason.

It just turns out it wasn't a "media building" and there was a very good reason for targeting it.

So I'm new to this thread/conversation but to make sure I'm understanding you correctly, you believe Israel had verified intelligence that Hamas was operating out of the building and thus was justified in leveling the whole building?
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Broseph_Stalin
05/16/21 2:09:07 PM
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Hornezz posted...
You really shouldn't be repeating this as if it was a fact without any evidence backing it up.

It being a multiuse high-rise and not just "The AP office" is absolutely a fact.

And I've asked people where they think Hamas operates out of, if not civilian areas, but no one has been able to give an answer
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Smashingpmkns
05/16/21 2:09:11 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
your intuition doesn't exactly have the best track record my guy

You're choosing to believe something with absolutely no proof. You've become what you always hated
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Hornezz
05/16/21 2:17:56 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
It being a multiuse high-rise and not just "The AP office" is absolutely a fact.

And I've asked people where they think Hamas operates out of, if not civilian areas, but no one has been able to give an answer
I'll oblige you: yes, Hamas does operate out of civilian areas. However there's no evidence whatsoever that Hamas operated out of this particular building. If you want to keep making that claim, you should provide proof.

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Broseph_Stalin
05/16/21 2:19:44 PM
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Hornezz posted...
If you want to keep making that claim, you should provide proof.

Do you have proof that Israel was lying about Hamas operating out of this building?
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Hornezz
05/16/21 2:24:41 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
Do you have proof that Israel was lying about Hamas operating out of this building?
Disingenuous bullshit. The burden of proof is on the one making the claim.

Not to mention that IDF has a history of falsifying evidence to justify their war crimes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rouzan_al-Najjar

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Smashingpmkns
05/16/21 2:24:53 PM
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AP claims that there was no Hamas presence in the building
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Orchestrion
05/16/21 2:32:28 PM
#230:


Broseph is continuing to post misinformation that has been debunked a number of times. When are the mods actually going to do something about his dozens of posts justifying war crimes by citing baseless conspiracy theories?

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Broseph_Stalin
05/16/21 2:33:18 PM
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Hornezz posted...
Not to mention that IDF has a history of falsifying evidence

Hamas has a history of only operating out of civilian areas, but you don't seem to care about that.

Smashingpmkns posted...
AP claims that there was no Hamas presence in the building

Broseph_Stalin posted...
How would AP know what every single person in a high-rise was doing at any given moment? This wasn't a single office used by just the AP and you know that, you're just being obtuse.

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Broseph_Stalin
05/16/21 2:33:39 PM
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Orchestrion posted...
Broseph is continuing to post misinformation that has been debunked a number of times. When are the mods actually going to do something about his dozens of posts justifying war crimes by citing baseless conspiracy theories?

holy projection batman
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King_Hellebuyck
05/16/21 2:35:04 PM
#233:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
And I wasn't defending Israel bombing a media building for no reason.

It just turns out it wasn't a "media building" and there was a very good reason for targeting it.
Their reason for taking down the entire building was to hinder media coverage. Otherwise they would have used a targeted strike like they have in the past. And you said you werent defending this well after you already started claiming that Hamas was in the building. Youve just spent the entire topic lying in support of terrorism.

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Hornezz
05/16/21 2:35:37 PM
#234:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
Hamas has a history of only operating out of civilian areas, but you don't seem to care about that.
Were they in this building and do you have evidence for that?
Or do you consider any civilian area fair game because of this?

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Orchestrion
05/16/21 2:35:38 PM
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Broseph_Stalin
05/16/21 2:35:40 PM
#236:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
Their reason for taking down the entire building was to hinder media coverage.

It has brought nothing but media coverage.

Listen to yourself.
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Smashingpmkns
05/16/21 2:36:31 PM
#237:


Well AP says they actually would know if there was a Hamas presence in the building. It would be really easy to disprove them if Israel just provided the proof that they totally have.
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King_Hellebuyck
05/16/21 2:38:16 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
It has brought nothing but media coverage.

Listen to yourself.
Israel did something and it backfired, therefore they didnt do it is exactly as smart of a post as were used to out of you.

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Orchestrion
05/16/21 2:39:41 PM
#240:


My prediction is that hell call us all stupid next

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Broseph_Stalin
05/16/21 2:39:55 PM
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It didn't "backfire", Israel knows it's going to get bad headlines any time it dares to confront Hamas.

That's what makes the "silence the media" narrative so dumb.

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King_Hellebuyck
05/16/21 2:41:23 PM
#242:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
It didn't "backfire", Israel knows it's going to get bad headlines any time it dares to confront Hamas.

That's what makes the "silence the media" narrative so dumb.
Yes were all very aware that youre going to lie in order to troll in support of terrorism

Orchestrion posted...
My prediction is that hell call us all stupid next
The COVxy method!

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iPhone_7
05/16/21 2:44:35 PM
#243:


Do we even know Hamas has fired missiles at Israel? Like what is the proof really, that Israel says so?
Is it the Israeli footage that was recorded by Israelis in Israel? Is that the proof were demanded to accept as fact?

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Broseph_Stalin
05/16/21 2:44:57 PM
#244:


Orchestrion posted...
My prediction is that hell call us all stupid next

You're certainly giving me plenty of reason to.

King_Hellebuyck posted...
Yes were all very aware that youre going to lie in order to troll in support of terrorism

Broseph_Stalin posted...
Interesting that it's only people inside the hivemind who are constructing strawman arguments

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skermac
05/16/21 2:48:21 PM
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I guess if you dont like bad publicity kill those that report it?

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Smashingpmkns
05/16/21 2:48:38 PM
#246:


Journalists in Palestine: "the world will know less about what is happening in Gaza now"

Broseph: "but they're reporting on the attack on the building "
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Broseph_Stalin
05/16/21 2:50:54 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Broseph: "but they're reporting on the attack on the building "

reporting on that attack
reporting on every subsequent attack

they're really bad at silencing the media

skermac posted...
I guess if you dont like bad publicity kill those that report it?

That's a weird way of saying Israel evacuated the building before attacking to make sure no civilians died.

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Smashingpmkns
05/16/21 2:55:02 PM
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Thinking that warning a building full of people that they're about to get sploded an hour ahead of time is simultaneously enough time to evacuate journalists without effecting their work and also little enough time to do massive damage to a Hamas headquarters operations.
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Antifar
05/16/21 2:57:08 PM
#249:


How many headquarters do these Hamas guys have anyways. Seems like really inefficient organization

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Broseph_Stalin
05/16/21 2:58:17 PM
#250:


Antifar posted...
How many headquarters do these Hamas guys have anyways. Seems like really inefficient organization

are you genuinely unaware of how an insurgency group works or what
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