Poll of the Day > If you had to imagine a Western RPG set in modern times what would it look like?

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ItsKaljinyuTime
05/14/21 8:57:19 PM
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Let's say I wanna play Mother 4, but I can't because it doesn't exist. Are there any RPGs set in modern times that I can hitch my fandom wagon to?

Well there's Persona, that's going on strong. You play it, it's nice, but then you think "This is a very Japanese game. And it makes me wonder what an American version of this would look like." You go looking for WRPGs. But they're all either set in medieval times, or are Fallout. You can't find the American Persona. Or any kind of WRPG set in modern times.

So now you have to imagine what that might look like, if someone was to make it. What would it look like? What would its hero(es) look like?

Simple answer is probably "I dunno, modern? Persona but you're in America?" But think a little more about it. Based on the culture of Western video game design, what direction do you think it would take?

Me, if a WRPG set in modern times was a thing, I feel like it would take inspiration from games like Heavy Rain or Alan Wake or Beyond: Two Souls. Or a Telltale game. Or even L.A. Noire. If you think about where JRPGs get inspiration for their heroes, the Western equivalent of that is where we get our heroes for games like these. The hero of a WRPG would be an everymannish something-like detective who's sad about something.

Like the heroes of Silent Hill or Resident Evil. These games are developed by Japanese teams, but are deliberately Western-influenced. Ergo, everymannish something-like detective who's sad about something. For some reason when developers think "West," they think everymannish something-like detective who's sad about something.

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PunishedOni
05/14/21 9:01:57 PM
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it would be like yakuza:like a dragon except in the US and with a bunch of boring space between the interesting stuff

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ItsKaljinyuTime
05/14/21 9:02:49 PM
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PunishedOni posted...
it would be like yakuza:like a dragon except in the US and with a bunch of boring space between the interesting stuff

Is that not Mafia?

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PunishedOni
05/14/21 9:04:00 PM
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yeah the yakuza is like the mafia. they sell people amphetamines and sometimes cut off their fingers

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FrozenBananas
05/14/21 10:16:33 PM
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GTA V

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Zeus
05/14/21 10:48:02 PM
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Shadowrun is pretty close to modern times.

Otherwise some of the GTA games kinda fit the bill, as do the Saints Row games (overlooking that SR4 has aliens, and then just ignoring Gat Out of Hell).

Honestly, unless you're kinda changing the idea of "set in modern times" to be some weird alt-verse with magic, etc, crime-themed games are probably the most logical choice. The kinda modern take on the quest, for instance, would be something like a heist (which would bring together a group of "adventurers" -- with very specialized skills -- on a mission to face overwhelming odds to get their hands on an item or loot).

However, if you are going magic, you'd probably just do urban fantasy of some kind.

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Revelation34
05/14/21 10:53:06 PM
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It would have to have guns. Is there an open world RPG game set in modern times that also doesn't have fantasy elements?
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ItsKaljinyuTime
05/14/21 11:09:56 PM
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Zeus posted...
Shadowrun is pretty close to modern times.

Otherwise some of the GTA games kinda fit the bill, as do the Saints Row games (overlooking that SR4 has aliens, and then just ignoring Gat Out of Hell).

Honestly, unless you're kinda changing the idea of "set in modern times" to be some weird alt-verse with magic, etc, crime-themed games are probably the most logical choice. The kinda modern take on the quest, for instance, would be something like a heist (which would bring together a group of "adventurers" -- with very specialized skills -- on a mission to face overwhelming odds to get their hands on an item or loot).

However, if you are going magic, you'd probably just do urban fantasy of some kind.


Revelation34 posted...
It would have to have guns. Is there an open world RPG game set in modern times that also doesn't have fantasy elements?

Mother and Persona have magic, this game can have magic too. It can be as magical as any other RPG, it just has to be set in modern times.

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ParanoidObsessive
05/14/21 11:31:18 PM
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Vampire: the Masquerade - Bloodlines
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Monopoman
05/14/21 11:42:09 PM
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Zeus posted...
Shadowrun is pretty close to modern times.

Otherwise some of the GTA games kinda fit the bill, as do the Saints Row games (overlooking that SR4 has aliens, and then just ignoring Gat Out of Hell).

Honestly, unless you're kinda changing the idea of "set in modern times" to be some weird alt-verse with magic, etc, crime-themed games are probably the most logical choice. The kinda modern take on the quest, for instance, would be something like a heist (which would bring together a group of "adventurers" -- with very specialized skills -- on a mission to face overwhelming odds to get their hands on an item or loot).

However, if you are going magic, you'd probably just do urban fantasy of some kind.

Shadowrun is like modern times?

Have you played any Shadowrun game? The games are like 30-40 years in the future and they have advanced cybertechnology that people can put into them, and the other major change is magic and non-human humanoids are around.

It's like if someone took Cyberpunk 2077 and combined it with the stuff you see in Dungeons and Dragons. When I think modern times I don't think of random fantasy elements in a futuristic setting.

Anyways the only game I know of that has RPG elements in the modern world that is not a Mother game is the following.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/258910/Citizens_of_Earth/
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shadowsword87
05/14/21 11:43:43 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
Vampire: the Masquerade - Bloodlines

The 90s are dead old man.
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ParanoidObsessive
05/14/21 11:49:58 PM
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shadowsword87 posted...
The 90s are dead old man.

The game came out in late 2004, boy.
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Zeus
05/15/21 12:12:00 AM
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Monopoman posted...
Shadowrun is like modern times?

Have you played any Shadowrun game? The games are like 30-40 years in the future and they have advanced cybertechnology that people can put into them, and the other major change is magic and non-human humanoids are around.

I guess you're probably not familiar with the source material and are basing your opinion on the more recent games, but the setting is reasonably close to what you might see in some cities. While there are futuristic elements and fantasy, the overall theme was very contemporary. When you go through the core book (I *think* it was a core edition, I'm not sure what happened to my copy), it has suggestions for encounters in convenience stores.

Additionally, the cyber-tech is often pretty low budget. The potential upgrades include installing a shotgun in somebody's forearm, something that you kinda can do with modern technology. Granted, part of it is that it was a future as envisioned in the 1980s and it was only set maybe 40-50 years in the future (which iirc they've pushed out)

ParanoidObsessive posted...
Vampire: the Masquerade - Bloodlines

And your other favorite, Werewolf: The Apocalypse >_>

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Lokarin
05/15/21 12:14:54 AM
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Could try LISA, but it takes place in the near-future

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Monopoman
05/15/21 12:19:38 AM
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Zeus posted...
I guess you're probably not familiar with the source material and are basing your opinion on the more recent games, but the setting is reasonably close to what you might see in some cities. While there are futuristic elements and fantasy, the overall theme was very contemporary. When you go through the core book (I *think* it was a core edition, I'm not sure what happened to my copy), it has suggestions for encounters in convenience stores.

Additionally, the cyber-tech is often pretty low budget. The potential upgrades include installing a shotgun in somebody's forearm, something that you kinda can do with modern technology. Granted, part of it is that it was a future as envisioned in the 1980s and it was only set maybe 40-50 years in the future (which iirc they've pushed out)

And your other favorite, Werewolf: The Apocalypse >_>

Even if you go by that the original games still had magic and thing's like elves and dragons bro. So even if we go with the oldest version of Shadowrun the 1980's version which I owned as a kid it still doesn't fit.

Like I said it's a futuristic setting mashed with fantasy elements. Shit even back then the hacking done was by jacking into computers and entering a VR inside the computer world, and I recall that very well because the first Shadowrun source book had an elf jacking into cyberspace. I also recall you could become like wolverine and get claws put into your hand that could be retracted.
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Zeus
05/15/21 12:25:04 AM
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Monopoman posted...
Even if you go by that the original games still had magic and thing's like elves and dragons bro. So even if we go with the oldest version of Shadowrun the 1980's version which I owned as a kid it still doesn't fit.

Within the context of Shadowrun, elves (who iirc just appear along with some other fantasy races) are fairly mundane and played just like a normal race. It's a weaksauce excuse.

I don't remember dragons being covered in the core book, any of the novels, or appearing in the original video games, but it's been forever.

Either way, within the context of IKT is asking for (where he's okay with actual magic), Shadowrun basically fits.

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Lokarin
05/15/21 12:30:16 AM
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Zeus posted...
I don't remember dragons being covered in the core book, any of the novels, or appearing in the original video games, but it's been forever.

Dragons are rather human-like, but they have the hero power... something that only Player Characters typically have... the power of... Luck

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shadowsword87
05/15/21 12:39:15 AM
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Zeus posted...
I don't remember dragons being covered in the core book, any of the novels, or appearing in the original video games, but it's been forever.

...Dude there's a dragon who was running for president, and, may be president, I don't know the exact context. But, you can see his campaign posters.
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Mead
05/15/21 1:13:25 AM
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Yeah GTA with more stats

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Lokarin
05/15/21 5:57:54 AM
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I assume y'all have played Don't Escape 4?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/611760/Dont_Escape_4_Days_to_Survive/

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Zeus
05/15/21 6:35:27 PM
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shadowsword87 posted...
...Dude there's a dragon who was running for president, and, may be president, I don't know the exact context. But, you can see his campaign posters.

If it's in the newer games, I already said I haven't played those. The 2007 one was on the 360 (which I didn't own until much later) and then the others are pc/mobile.

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ItsKaljinyuTime
05/15/21 6:47:48 PM
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Dragons are fine, I just need the setting to be in modern times. Earthbound had Krakens.

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Muscles
05/15/21 6:56:43 PM
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When I read the title I thought you were talking about "western" as in the genre of cowboys

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aiyobro
05/15/21 7:02:27 PM
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pathologic 2
wasteland 2
iron harvest
disco elysium
secret of evermore

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Revelation34
05/16/21 2:20:07 PM
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aiyobro posted...
pathologic 2
wasteland 2
iron harvest
disco elysium
secret of evermore


Not sure the last one counts.
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Dmess85
05/16/21 2:23:57 PM
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Wild Arms

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shadowsword87
05/16/21 2:24:28 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Not sure the last one counts.

Pathologic 2 is also pretty not-western.
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Revelation34
05/16/21 2:26:22 PM
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Dmess85 posted...
Wild Arms


That doesn't count either.

shadowsword87 posted...


Pathologic 2 is also pretty not-western.


I haven't played it so I know nothing about it.
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shadowsword87
05/16/21 2:36:50 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
I haven't played it so I know nothing about it.

Oh, it's a deeply deeply weird russian-playlike clash between a native culture, and an imperial culture, while a horrific infection starts taking over.
It's a really fascinating game with a lot of weird and cool ideas.
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sveksii
05/16/21 5:21:16 PM
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ItsKaljinyuTime posted...
Let's say I wanna play Mother 4, but I can't because it doesn't exist. Are there any RPGs set in modern times that I can hitch my fandom wagon to?
So (30 years from now when they actually release it) Oddity?

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Smiffwilm
05/16/21 5:52:44 PM
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It'd probably look like ass.

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aiyobro
05/16/21 9:47:12 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Not sure the last one counts.

made by an american company

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Revelation34
05/16/21 11:41:44 PM
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aiyobro posted...


made by an american company


It was made by a North American branch of a Japanese company. Also my point was it wasn't set in modern times. There were multiple time periods in it including a future one.
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05/17/21 12:10:43 AM
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aiyobro
05/17/21 7:45:50 PM
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Mass Effect 1

I'm about to start Enslaved Oddyssy to the West

Horiz0n dawn

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ItsKaljinyuTime
05/18/21 9:00:45 AM
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aiyobro posted...
Mass Effect 1

I'm about to start Enslaved Oddyssy to the West

Horiz0n dawn

But Mass Effect is set in the far future, not modern times.

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Monopoman
05/18/21 4:57:38 PM
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It's funny when people keep throwing in Sci-Fi games or games where a modern day character travels to a vastly different world into this equation, sure if we were 300+ years in the future Mass Effect 1 would count but we aren't.

I mean the first Ni No Kuni starts off in a like 1940's Europe or something but it spends 97% of the game in a fantasy land where it's basically medieval times.
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Zeus
05/18/21 9:25:17 PM
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Monopoman posted...
It's funny when people keep throwing in Sci-Fi games or games where a modern day character travels to a vastly different world into this equation, sure if we were 300+ years in the future Mass Effect 1 would count but we aren't.

I mean the first Ni No Kuni starts off in a like 1940's Europe or something but it spends 97% of the game in a fantasy land where it's basically medieval times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhGJ35vFqx4

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Metalsonic66
05/18/21 9:27:32 PM
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aiyobro posted...
Mass Effect 1

I'm about to start Enslaved Oddyssy to the West

Horiz0n dawn
None of those are in modern times, and Enslaved isn't even an RPG

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