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on gamefaqs you cannot use honest science to argue gay people are lesser parents. it will be seen as offensive guaranteed

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AlphaCuck posted...

it's an express lane to virtue signaling about how actually gays are better parents if you think about it. he was doing a lot more erasure up to this point

The comparison is due to how gay couples can't have accidental pregnancies. That right there eliminates a considerable number of potential chances for a kid to grow up in a neglected and unwanted home headed by a gay couple.

But if we ignore the population of kids raised in unwanted homes, and assume all 3 parent combinations want their kids, there's bound to be differences especially for a kid raised by a lesbian couple. Kids need a paternal influence in their life, where would kid of a lesbian couple get that from?

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AlphaCuck posted...

on gamefaqs you cannot use honest science to argue gay people are lesser parents. it will be seen as offensive guaranteed

I've found 4 scientific papers that suggest gay parents could be lesser parents and I already linked them. Wait and see if I get modded.

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pinky0926 posted...

I've found 4 scientific papers that suggest gay parents could be lesser parents and I already linked them. Wait and see if I get modded.

ok now use them to argue that gay people are lesser parents

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Sad_Face posted...

But if we ignore the population of kids raised in unwanted homes, and assume all 3 parent combinations want their kids, there's bound to be differences especially for a kid raised by a lesbian couple. Kids need a paternal influence in their life, where would kid of a lesbian couple get that from?

I think it's also important to acknowledge that gay parents are often adopting children from foster homes/orphanages. In that, is lack of a paternal figure better than...no parents at all?

I take your point though. But maybe a lesbian couple just needs to be wiser about how they parent.

I have a lesbian friend who is having a baby and is considering this problem. She wants the child to have good male role models around, even if they aren't the father.

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AlphaCuck posted...

ok now use them to argue that gay people are lesser parents

Well naturally I won't, because any person using honest science to form an argument (your words) would have to consider that if you have 80 papers on the subject and the split is 76 in favour and 4 against, the honest scientific consensus suggests there isn't a problem.

If you were absolutely resolute then you could examine the methodology of these papers to see if the 4 outliers were better than the other 76, but at that point I'd have to wonder if you are just trying to confirm a bias.

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AlphaCuck posted...

on gamefaqs you cannot use honest science to argue gay people are lesser parents.

Because there is none.

TC woke up and decided it's a big homophobe energy kind of day

Kinda weird

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Gwynevere posted...

TC woke up and decided it's a big homophobe energy kind of day

Kinda weird

you're so woke.

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No. Because it depends on the individuals. Most parents do a decent job and make mistakes along the way. Then there are some people, who should never even have had a kid to begin with.

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Lil_Bit83 posted...

No. Because it depends on the individuals. Most parent do a decent job and make mistakes along the way. Then there are some people, who should never even have had a kid to begin with.

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My fear wouldnt be of being the couple or even the kid. Its what other idiots around me would say or do because people are evil.

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Agnostic420 posted...

people are evil.

you def dont need to have kids.

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I said yes, but it isn't typically a bad thing.

Let's say, you have a gay male couple with a daughter. Going through cycle difficulties is something neither parent would be able to relate to. While both would be able to help her, they don't have that personal knowledge of what it is like, and many guys likely don't understand the bodily needs that some girls have.

Again, this isn't bad though, because the fathers could still give the support and help her as needed, and seek out answers from women who have been through those situations at a young age, but it's nothing a two-father family would have direct experience with.

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Sayoria posted...

Let's say, you have a gay male couple with a daughter. Going through cycle difficulties is something neither parent would be able to relate to. While both would be able to help her, they don't have that personal knowledge of what it is like, and many guys likely don't understand the bodily needs that some girls have.

exactly.

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TC, it seems like youre really mad about all of these studies showing that gay people usually make for really good parents

Lol

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Sayoria posted...

I said yes, but it isn't typically a bad thing.

Let's say, you have a gay male couple with a daughter. Going through cycle difficulties is something neither parent would be able to relate to. While both would be able to help her, they don't have that personal knowledge of what it is like, and many guys likely don't understand the bodily needs that some girls have.

Again, this isn't bad though, because the fathers could still give the support and help her as needed, and seek out answers from women who have been through those situations at a young age, but it's nothing a two-father family would have direct experience with.

Oh no! A parent not being able to relate to a period because they're male? Goodness, I wonder how other fathers ever learned to deal with this? Certainly they have never had a mother, or possibly even sisters, cousins, or aunts. What a dumb statement this is. And its not as if dealing with a period is complicated. And if you as a parent aren't comfortable with it, there's always sex ed. They do teach you about how the male and female reproductive systems work.

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FlameTurtle posted...

TC, it seems like youre really mad about all of these studies showing that gay people usually make for really good parents

Lol

can I ask why you think that?

Lol

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God_Of_Entirety posted...

bullshit

Stay mad, dude

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you dont blindly believe this link that was posted, ur sooo mad

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Lil_Bit83 posted...

Oh no! A parent not being able to relate to a period because they're male? Goodness, I wonder how other fathers ever learned to deal with this? Certainly they have never had a mother, or possibly even sisters, cousins, or aunts. What a dumb statement this is. And its not as if dealing with a period is complicated. And if you as a parent aren't comfortable with it, there's always sex ed. They do teach you about how the male and female reproductive systems work.

For fuck sakes, I said it's not a problem. It's a legitimate difference that a father can't relate to female puberty, not that they can't address it in some way.

Get over yourself and don't read just want you want to argue.

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Probably. Doesn't matter if the child is raised well and loved though. May be some differences but in the long run that's what matters

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Yes there is.
A child should not be raised without a mother and father figure.


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Flamer_Blue posted...

Yes there is.
A child should not be raised without a mother and father figure.

what makes you say that?

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I've read about a lesbian couple who's daughter was afraid of men. But like good, responsible parents, they sought a well-qualified man to teach her that men are also people.

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Sayoria posted...

For fuck sakes, I said it's not a problem. It's a legitimate difference that a father can't relate to female puberty, not that they can't address it in some way.

Get over yourself and don't read just want you want to argue.

Then don't make issues out of thin air.

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Lil_Bit83 posted...

Then don't make issues out of thin air.

They weren't, you were.

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yes leading

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yes zaddy leading yet most vocal people itt are arguing in favor in no...

very telling

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Shablagoo posted...

So I made the joke to them that hey, unlike me youll always know for sure that your parents definitely wanted you, lol.

This is the standard response for all of us adopted kids when growing up. If someone would use the "Your adopted!" as an insult or something, the go to reply is "Yeah, my parents wanted me. Did yours?"

It almost always ended in "Haha, that's funny, let's play tag!" or the kid breaking down into tears and running away. Usually 50/50 odds.

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totalnerdken posted...

Studies I remember reading in my child psyc classes in university basically just said that as long as you have some multiple decent adult supervision, the kid will be fine. Even daycare can work.

so children with single parents won't be fine? cool story bro

Yeah of course there's a difference.

Doesn't mean gay couples shouldn't raise children.

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Ilishe posted...

Yeah of course there's a difference.

Doesn't mean gay couples shouldn't raise children.

well no one even alluded to that...

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Kastrada posted...

This is the standard response for all of us adopted kids when growing up. If someone would use the "Your adopted!" as an insult or something, the go to reply is "Yeah, my parents wanted me. Did yours?"

It almost always ended in "Haha, that's funny, let's play tag!" or the kid breaking down into tears and running away. Usually 50/50 odds.

Haha, thats interesting to know, I wonder if this factored into why they laughed when I said it.

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