Board 8 > Vinny, Brad, and Alex all just announced they're leaving Giantbomb

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KamikazePotato
05/04/21 7:52:29 PM
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I have no stake in GB but I'm here for the juicy gossip

Why did 3/4 of the founders quite in one day

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ChaosTonyV4
05/04/21 8:03:53 PM
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Jeff was hired to a general managerial role for the "games division" of Red Ventures, which leads me to believe they are going to consolidate their platforms and further reduce redundancies. That's why they let go of the dead weight in Abby/Ben, and Alex/Vinny were probably ask d to move back to San Fran to keep their jobs, to avoid having to pay for 2 different offices/studios.

All four people involved left of their own accord, let alone were let go.

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
This is all conjecture, but so far all of the facts are lining up. They likely had a 6 month non compete when they signed on to RV (maybe another reason why Abby left) with the decision to close GBEast coming after they signed on.

Vinny already personally shot this down.

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
If I were a betting man I would say Jeff eventually leaves too once his contract is up. This is major deja vu to the founding of Giantbomb originally. What will be interesting is to see if they spin off and do their own independent thing, or move to another company that wants to get more into games coverage.

Giant Bomb IS Jeff. Until he retires for good, it would be insane for him to leave.

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The Mana Sword
05/04/21 8:05:01 PM
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Podcast title for this week really hit me

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BlAcK TuRtLe
05/04/21 8:32:36 PM
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Can someone help me "get" why the internet is sad about this? Not trolling at all here.

I don't watch streamers or get into internet personalities, so I don't see why their show is supposed to be better than all the rest.

I don't get into internet personalities, but the Giant Bomb crew have been a source of gaming news and entertainment for the better part of my adult life. Listening to industry updates on the Bombcast followed up by Ryan and Jeff's hilarious non-sequitors and fan emails is what got me initially hooked. I didn't really listen/watch any of their content outside of the Bombcast and the occasional Quick Look until a friend of mine got me hooked on their Unprofessional Friday streams, and eventually Dan and Drew playing through Metal Gear Solid.

Like GameFAQs, the current iteration of the site is a hollow husk of it's former quality, but I couldn't let go no matter how grating and annoying the new hires (Austin, Abby, Ben) were.

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Jakyl25
05/04/21 8:44:51 PM
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KamikazePotato posted...
I have no stake in GB but I'm here for the juicy gossip

Why did 3/4 of the founders quite in one day


Technically Alex isnt a founder
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ChaosTonyV4
05/04/21 9:22:37 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Technically Alex isnt a founder

Hes not, but he was there during the GameSpot days and joined just barely over a year after GB was formed, it just feels like he is.

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theawesomestevr
05/04/21 9:25:09 PM
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Technically Alex isnt a founder

Technically, I don't know that Brad and Vinny are either though I get the point that they were there from basically the beginning unlike Alex.

The content they've put out for a while now I've found hard to watch, so not particularly upsetting news for me. Dan did a decent job of keeping things entertaining after Ryan passed away, but I haven't kept up much since somewhere after the site's last redesign, so the site/their era already felt pretty dead to me.
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ninkendo
05/04/21 9:37:38 PM
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In a statement to GameSpot, Jeff Gerstmann said, Ive spent a lot of the last year thinking about whats next for Giant Bomb and most of those roads lead to a full-on rethink of what it means to be a Website About Video Games in 2021. While I certainly would have loved to solve these challenges with my longtime friends and coworkers by my side, it just wasnt meant to be. I wish Vinny, Alex, and Brad the best. Meanwhile, we have a pretty exciting opportunity to broaden our horizons, rethink every facet of our operation, and get to a place where were truly able to build that bomb all over again... or die trying.

GameSpot also published a statement from Giant Bomb collectively, which said,There is a collective vision for what the future of Giant Bomb is and it involves both familiar and new faces. Were already in talks with creators so that we can begin the next chapter. Were fully aware that this marks a big change and were using this as an opportunity to rethink what this site is. Its a chance to introduce new personalities from different backgrounds and explore categories and topics that we never have before.

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BlAcK TuRtLe
05/04/21 9:38:09 PM
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Somewhere out there is a parallel universe where Ryan Davis didn't die, and I like to think that world is in a much better place than this one

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GANON1025
05/04/21 10:32:42 PM
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BlAcK TuRtLe
05/04/21 10:44:44 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHfDpxfz9l4&ab_channel=VinnCoArchive
Don't think I've ever seen that

I think this has been low key the biggest issue with the new hires like Patrick and Austin. They were too focused on the "games journalism" aspect. That coupled with all of the coverage of industry perverts and people complaining about "crunch time" is not at all the content that anybody wants to see/hear.

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Aecioo
05/04/21 11:00:02 PM
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Giant Bomb guys were the first 'personalities' I've ever followed. They all had interesting takes on gaming, different interests, and it was tied together by someone like Jeff who had decades of experience and knowledge to back it up. Couple that with them basically just doing their own thing and having fun with it ended up with some of the best gaming content for a solid half decade there.

It's been on a decline for awhile, and I've held onto my subscription almost out of support for the years of joy they brought me, but it hasn't been the must watch content that it was before, where I would count down until the next Metal Gear Scanlon release or something.

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BlAcK TuRtLe
05/04/21 11:05:46 PM
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It's pretty much universal that 2010-2013 were the peak of GB, with the full crew and before Ryan died. The era between Jason/Dan getting hired and the brand split is probably a close #2 though. I can't think of many notable pieces of content post brand split. I always enjoyed Game Tapes/Ranking of Fighters, but that was more passive enjoyment rather than legitimate entertainment like Metal Gear Scanlon. Maybe the Austin/Vinny Kerbel series?

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MoogleKupo141
05/04/21 11:43:45 PM
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Burgle my Bananas was top tier content
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MoogleKupo141
05/05/21 1:09:35 AM
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I dont think they meant to tiptoe around Ryan, they were just trying to thank acknowledge people and... hes not around to be thanked anymore.

also maybe Vinny waited to the end to mention him because he didnt want to make a sad discussion even sadder. The moment Vinny brought him up was when I started crying. To this day, no celebrity death has hurt for me as much as Ryan.
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_Harmonica_
05/05/21 2:48:34 AM
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This fucking sucks. Not gonna call giant bomb dead while Jeff is still around, but without Vinny and the others it's basically paralyzed from the neck down.
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Lightning Strikes
05/05/21 3:46:12 AM
#68:


BT, stop insisting that people are dead weight, posting baseless conspiracy theories about peoples jobs, and insisting that your own feelings are universal truths. This is not the thread for your exclusionary nonsense.

KamikazePotato posted...
I have no stake in GB but I'm here for the juicy gossip

Why did 3/4 of the founders quite in one day

https://mobile.twitter.com/HoegLaw/status/1389648500124790788

A legal experts opinion. Nasty types like BT love whatever is bad for the people they dont like, but the truth is nearly always more mundane.

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UshiromiyaEva
05/05/21 3:47:45 AM
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As always just completely ignore anything BT says in a GB topic.


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Steiner
05/05/21 4:14:05 AM
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or any topic

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MoogleKupo141
05/05/21 4:14:14 AM
#71:


Lightning Strikes posted...
BT, stop insisting that people are dead weight, posting baseless conspiracy theories about peoples jobs, and insisting that your own feelings are universal truths. This is not the thread for your exclusionary nonsense.

https://mobile.twitter.com/HoegLaw/status/1389648500124790788

A legal experts opinion. Nasty types like BT love whatever is bad for the people they dont like, but the truth is nearly always more mundane.


Vinny replied to that tweet to say its not that
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Lightning Strikes
05/05/21 4:18:36 AM
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A sound bit of advice, its just infuriating that hes like half the posts and is insisting that not only are his opinions universally held, but also his theories about actual people being forced out if their jobs despite the fact that we know that that has not been the case. Vinny even says it again in the new bombcast!

Its why I was a bit wary of some well-intentioned people going well of course it got worse after the split because it is basically validating him.

Its funny though, because you used to see people going oh 2008-2009 was the golden age, then it became 2010-2013, 2014-2016, now people are nostalgic for the days of Dan at East and Abby joining. The site has changed but consistently delivered good stuff. So I think that West can adapt and do something fun.

I will really miss GBEast though. The 2018 Quiet Man playthrough was legendary, so I might rewatch that.

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Lightning Strikes
05/05/21 4:20:48 AM
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MoogleKupo141 posted...
Vinny replied to that tweet to say its not that

Fair enough! I guess we dont know then.

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ninkendo
05/05/21 4:52:22 AM
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Luckily Jeff's garage has enough garbage in it to provide content for years to come

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ninkendo
05/05/21 5:17:17 AM
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Jeff, Brad, Vinny & Alex brought a lot of historical context & insight into what is otherwise a very youth driven industry fueled by hype. That sort of value isnt something thats easily to find.
While younger viewers sometimes complained that these old guys hate games I always saw it as these industry veterans have been around long enough to see through the BS.
More importantly, the familiarity I had with their personalities & tastes meant that even if I disagreed with them about a game or piece of news, I could always trust that they were coming from a place of integrity & authenticity. Again, not something you can easily find elsewhere.
They will be sorely missed.


Yeah pretty much that

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Seanchan
05/05/21 7:36:01 AM
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What are the odds that those 3 go to start Thwomp.com or whatever other alternative names that Jeff considered back in the day? And that then Jeff joins them 3-6 months down the road. Or do you truly think this is the end of them covering games as a group?

BTW, does this frame Jeff's garage streams in a different light for anyone else? That it isn't just cleaning out a space as much as it is reminiscing as an era comes to an end.

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bryans7
05/05/21 8:42:50 AM
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Obviously I could be completely wrong, but I feel like all three are going to move on from this sort of work, especially Vinny and Alex. (Brad still has his tech pod with Will Smith, I don't think that's going anywhere.) They're all in their early/mid 40s, Vinny has kids, Jeff's got another on the way. Not really the time to go all-in on starting something new. If they stay in games I could imagine it being more production related, could easily see Vinny doing something like what Drew is now with producing behind the scenes and promotional videos.

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ChaosTonyV4
05/05/21 11:54:00 AM
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So I pulled up the live Bombcast when someone nudged me to and saw it live, but stopped after about 10 minutes because it was tough.

Listening to the audio now. Man

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Epyo
05/05/21 3:10:00 PM
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I don't think I'm gonna be able to listen to the episode. I'm way too sad about all this.

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BlAcK TuRtLe
05/06/21 12:23:01 AM
#80:


Lightning Strikes posted...
BT, stop insisting that people are dead weight, posting baseless conspiracy theories about peoples jobs, and insisting that your own feelings are universal truths. This is not the thread for your exclusionary nonsense.

https://mobile.twitter.com/HoegLaw/status/1389648500124790788

A legal experts opinion. Nasty types like BT love whatever is bad for the people they dont like, but the truth is nearly always more mundane.
You tool bag, this is exactly what I posted earlier

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ninkendo
05/06/21 12:31:53 AM
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ninkendo
05/06/21 2:11:39 AM
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The Mana Sword
05/06/21 7:25:39 AM
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Listening to Jeffs garage stream
from last night, it really just sounds like the rest of the guys didnt have it in them to partially re-envision the site from the ground up again. I dont really blame them. More power to Jeff for still having the drive to do that. Its definitely sad that itll happen without Vinny, Brad and Alex, but Im at least curious to see how things go from here.

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MoogleKupo141
05/06/21 1:51:04 PM
#84:


Full cast reunion for the beast cast. Beautiful and sad.
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MoogleKupo141
05/06/21 2:02:11 PM
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oh no Vinnys already tearing up
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ninkendo
05/06/21 2:03:54 PM
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For Vinny's case he basically spelled it out that it's a ton of personal problems that have piled up over time and he has to step away to address them

I wonder if his neck surgery played into it at all

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davidponte
05/06/21 2:20:41 PM
#87:


This Beastcast is beautiful.

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MoogleKupo141
05/06/21 2:25:15 PM
#88:


I want to live in this forever

This may be the only episode of the Beastcast Ive ever seen all the way through. I know its crazy, but until this past year I basically only watched the nonpodcast stuff. I would catch highlights of the casts on YouTube sometimes, but GB had so much content that I just couldnt keep up with everything.
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MoogleKupo141
05/06/21 4:14:36 PM
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That was a really wonderful couple hours. What an incredible group of people.

Vinny and Alex both sounded a bit like they wont be completely retiring from public life which definitely lifted my spirits a bit.
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BlAcK TuRtLe
05/06/21 4:16:50 PM
#90:


I love how Vinny was in the middle of a really heartfelt speech and Abby cut him off to make the show all about her.

Goddamn she was the absolute fucking WORST

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UshiromiyaEva
05/06/21 4:18:16 PM
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Why are you such an awful person?

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Dragonair
05/06/21 4:19:23 PM
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MoogleKupo141 posted...
That was a really wonderful couple hours. What an incredible group of people.

Vinny and Alex both sounded a bit like they wont be completely retiring from public life which definitely lifted my spirits a bit.
Yeah that was great. Beastcast forever

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Bane_Of_Despair
05/06/21 4:19:31 PM
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I don't care much for Giant Bomb, gave them a chance and there's some stuff I enjoyed but overall it was kind of eh to me, but seeing black turtle consistently get an aneurysm at the mere sight or mention of Abby thrills me

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BlAcK TuRtLe
05/06/21 4:20:18 PM
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Hearing this made me realize how much I miss Austin when he is being genuine, and not trying to make everything a fucking social justice commentary

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UshiromiyaEva
05/06/21 4:20:43 PM
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Like it baffles me that he can be such a big fan when he must know full well that every single member of the GB staff would think he was a huge piece of shit.

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NFUN
05/06/21 4:23:53 PM
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Like it baffles me that he can be such a big fan when he must know full well that every single member of the GB staff would think he was a huge piece of shit.
if that bothered him, he wouldn't be able to watch anything

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05/06/21 4:24:33 PM
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Steiner
05/06/21 4:26:25 PM
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he continues to post on a message board where everybody thinks he's a piece of shit too

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davidponte
05/06/21 4:27:04 PM
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Man I think it finally hit me when they signed off that last time. What a great watch that was.

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bryans7
05/06/21 4:30:25 PM
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That Beastcast had it all. Even a Dan question.

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