Current Events > The Batman HBO Max spin off TV show to focus on James Gordon

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https://www.ign.com/articles/the-batman-tv-spin-off-will-reportedly-focus-on-james-gordon

The upcoming HBO Max Batman spinoff series, Gotham PD, will reportedly focus on James Gordon, forgoing using the Gotham Central comic by Greg Rucka and Ed Brubaker as inspiration.

Brubaker, who co-wrote the 2002 police procedural comic Gotham Central, recently appeared on Kevin Smiths Fatman Beyond podcast and shared what he knew about the upcoming HBO Max series, Batman News reports.

I was like maybe theyre really going to make Gotham Central this time, and so I reached out to a producer who works for Matt Reeves and he says, no, thats not really Gotham Central. Brubaker said. Theyre making sure that they dont call it Gotham Central and its more of a spinoff from the movie. Its like the James Gordon show

Another Gordon TV show already?

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so, a TV show where a guy turns on a beacon so the real hero will show up

sounds riveting

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I feel like I just watched this somewhere

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Jimminy Christmas just give us a fucking live action Batman tv show already.

Fucking Alfred has a show three seasons deep and we cant even get mother assing Bruce I kidnapped a circus performer and turned him into a child soldier Wayne to headline a show like suck my big sweaty toe WB fuck

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Holy shit that Alfred show went for three seasons?

I'm a pretty big Batman fan but I haven't seen it talked about on the internet anywhere.

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AlisLandale posted...

Jimminy Christmas just give us a fucking live action Batman tv show already.

They wouldn't be able to get people to watch the movies if they did.

FortuneCookie posted...

They wouldn't be able to get people to watch the movies if they did.

And other hilarious jokes Hollywood studios tell themselves

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Darmik posted...

Holy shit that Alfred show went for three seasons?

I'm a pretty big Batman fan but I haven't seen it talked about on the internet anywhere.

Didnt know it even existed

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YourLovelyTina posted...

so, a TV show where a guy turns on a beacon so the real hero will show up

sounds riveting

AlisLandale posted...

And other hilarious jokes Hollywood studios tell themselves

Look at The Walking Dead. There were dozens of zombie movies, then somebody put zombies on television every week and the movies were no longer profitable. People won't pay for something they can get for free or at no additional cost to a service they're already paying for. The same thing happened in the 1950s with westerns.

If there were an HBO Max Prime, they could do a live action Batman series. But even that would be a risk.

Maybe they could do a live action Batman series which takes place in the 1940s; when the character was created. Or some kind of a Return of Bruce Wayne / Gotham by Gaslight scenario where Batman is in a setting other than the present and goes through a filter. Pirate, cowboy, etc. That would allow a weekly Batman while preserving the novelty of getting to see modern Batman in a major way.

I would say that they risk over-saturation, but then they risk that by doing all of these spinoffs about supporting cast members anyway.

I'm surprised it took this long for the news to pick this up lol

I watched the podcast and Brubaker was talking all the shit. Dude doesn't even wanna watch Falcon and The Winter Solider

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For a second I thought I time traveled back to 2014.

FortuneCookie posted...

Look at The Walking Dead. There were dozens of zombie movies, then somebody put zombies on television every week and the movies were no longer profitable. People won't pay for something they can get for free or at no additional cost to a service they're already paying for. The same thing happened in the 1950s with westerns.

If there were an HBO Max Prime, they could do a live action Batman series. But even that would be a risk.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_zombie_films

Consistently 20ish films per year well into 2017. 2003 was the first year with more than 10 zombie movies since 1988.

Not to mention the Gunsmoke TV show started in 1955, over a decade before classics like The Good the Bad and the Ugly. Wagon Train was 57. Bonanza was 59.

Nobody isnt going to see a big budget Batman movie because theres a tv version unless the studio royally shits the bed. (Or if they wait until audiences are sick of Batman and just create a self-fulfilling prophecy)

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AlisLandale posted...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_zombie_films

Consistently 20ish films per year well into 2017. 2003 was the first year with more than 10 zombie movies since 1988.

Not to mention the Gunsmoke TV show started in 1955, over a decade before classics like The Good the Bad and the Ugly. Wagon Train was 57. Bonanza was 59.

Nobody isnt going to see a big budget Batman movie because theres a tv version unless the studio royally shits the bed. (Or if they wait until audiences are sick of Batman and just create a self-fulfilling prophecy)

Most of those movies are straight-to-video / straight-to-streaming-service movies. And westerns had mostly died out by the 1960s. The few successes, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid / The Dollars Trilogy, say some variation or another of the same thing: "Westerns weren't profitable at the time." The Dollars Trilogy films were low budget. They had everything to gain and nothing to lose. Clint Eastwood was a TV star who went over to Italy to do a low budget western remake of Yojimbo.

Maybe I'm wrong. I don't have a magic crystal ball that can see the outcome of things. If an HBO Max series is successful and a movie release isn't, it might be over-saturation or lingering stigma from Batman v Superman and the Whedon cut of Justice League. But I'm with the producers when I cast my vote on the likelihood that going to the small screen is as much as forfeiting one's place on the big screen.

TheoryzC posted...

I'm surprised it took this long for the news to pick this up lol

I watched the podcast and Brubaker was talking all the shit. Dude doesn't even wanna watch Falcon and The Winter Solider

He created winter soldier and gets 0 royalty

Brubaker is the best comics writer I have ever read
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They just finished doing this and they're doing the same thing again

Lame. They already did a Gordon show

That show Gotham ended not that long ago, what is with the hard on for James Gordon ???

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Knightmare cyberpunk Batman TV show please.

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Out of everyone in the Batman universe why are we just getting spin-offs of Gordon and Alfred anyway.

I guess this needs to be a prequel to The Batman but even in that case wouldn't Selina Kyle be significantly more interesting than Gordon?

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I'd watch a Catwoman series.

<_<

No one gives a flying fuck about Gordon

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This was leaked like a year ago. Glad it's been confirmed. Could be cool.
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If they wanted to do a prequel show then having us see a full season of Batman struggle to figure things out, and start his war on crime would be a better show then focusing on Gordon.

Lets see a green as grass Batman struggle and slowly learn what works and doesnt work so The Batman movie shows real pay off for his early trial and errors in hus second year on the job.

Have him tackle lesser criminals and then show or foreshadow the reason he is on Riddlers radar.

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I'd like to see a show about Arkham done in the style of Oz. And every once in a while a big name villain shows up.

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Kajagogo posted...

I'd like to see a show about Arkham done in the style of Oz. And every once in a while a big name villain shows up.

Yeah I was gonna post that as a suggestion too. Arkham is probably a better perspective to see than the GCPD assuming they can't get Robert to actually turn up for the show.

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Wasn't this already kind of Gotham?

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Wasn't this already kind of Gotham?

Yes. Although a key difference in this case is that it's supposed to be a direct spin-off from The Batman while Gotham was its own thing and its own universe.

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I like the idea of a police procedural like Law and Order except in Gotham, tbh.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

If they wanted to do a prequel show then having us see a full season of Batman struggle to figure things out, and start his war on crime would be a better show then focusing on Gordon.

Lets see a green as grass Batman struggle and slowly learn what works and doesnt work so The Batman movie shows real pay off for his early trial and errors in hus second year on the job.

Have him tackle lesser criminals and then show or foreshadow the reason he is on Riddlers radar.

They'll probably never make a real live action Batman show
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They better get Jeffrey Wright to reprise his role from The Batman, otherwise, another Gordon run seems boring as fuck.

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I'd still prefer just new episodes of Batman The Brave and the Bold.
However, the ending to that was GOOD Batman finding out he was in a cancelled Batman cartoon via Batmite and telling fans not to worry, as there will always be a good Batman cartoon around the corner.

He was wrong though: That 3D Batman series that followed sucked knobs.

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Smashingpmkns posted...

They'll probably never make a real live action Batman show

They should've done a Nightwing solo series instead of Titans or whatever if they insist on never having a Batman series. Do most fans actually want Gordon or Alfred focused shows? They would be way down the list just from the Batman franchise let alone DC for me.

JFC enough with Batman already. Isn't like the 20th movie coming out with Robert Pattinson too? Oversaturation to the definition, give it a break for a while. Do something like a Green Lantern series, stop pumping the same 2 characters over and over.

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project_night posted...

They should've done a Nightwing solo series instead of Titans or whatever if they insist on never having a Batman series. Do most fans actually want Gordon or Alfred focused shows? They would be way down the list just from the Batman franchise let alone DC for me.

WB/DC isn't really in the business of giving people what they want lol
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MabusIncarnate posted...

JFC enough with Batman already. Isn't like the 20th movie coming out with Robert Pattinson too? Oversaturation to the definition, give it a break for a while. Do something like a Green Lantern series, stop pumping the same 2 characters over and over.

I agree with this.
I never wanted to see Batman played by Robert Pattison either. Dude has the jawline of a Robin, not a Batman. Movie doesn't even look that good. Nice edgy Riddler. Looks terrible.

I reckon it's gonna be shit, but hope i am wrong.

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To be fair we haven't actually had a standalone Batman movie for nearly 10 years now. Batman was poop in BvS outside of one action scene and meh in Justice League.

Although yeah I'd prefer a high budget TV show.

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So excited! Finally a new Batman concept idea.

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ImAMarvel posted...

Basically, fuck off with Batman already, DC. Give us some other shit.

They're literally doing a Peacemaker show.

If that doesn't kill the "DC gives em nothing but Batman" narrative then I don't know what does lol

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An HBO made Game of Thrones esque Batman series would make so much money its not even funny.

By GoT esque I dont mean bring in D&D, I just mean an ensemble cast epic with a high production value.

Can you imagine a dark a gritty take on Gotham that spans years with equal focus on heroes and villains of Gotham alike? A web of characters, interacting in ways never shown in the movies. Joker gang at war with the Penguin gang. Batman doing detective work against some of his more cerebral foes. Harvey Dents fall into madness being told over several seasons. Imagine watching Bruce adopt Dick and train him. Literally watching him grow into an adult and into Nightwing right before our eyes.

A man can dream, cant he?

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Darmik posted...

Yes. Although a key difference in this case is that it's supposed to be a direct spin-off from The Batman while Gotham was its own thing and its own universe.

The key difference is that Gotham's writers figured out nobody wants a show about Gordon solving regular, boring-ass crimes. By season two, they were using full-on Batman villains and doing gloriously stupid shit. To the point that the last season is an adaptation of fucking No-Man's Land. After the Joker blows up various parts of the city, Nyssa al Ghul uses her position as Secretary of Homeland Security to isolate Gotham City, sends in an army platoon headed by a guy that Hugo Strange eventually turns into Bane, kidnaps a baby Batgirl, and then escapes in a submarine built by the Penguin and the Riddler.

If this show gets nearly to that level of balls-out, drop-dead, all out fucking idiocy I will watch it every. Single. Week.

It won't tho

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ImAMarvel posted...

They actually are coming out with a GL series, with an ensemble cast and a narrative that jumps between decades, with Alan Scott in the '50s, Guy Gardner in the 80's/90's (can't remember), and Jessica Cruz and Simon Baz in the modern era. Can't wait and it's going to be on HBO Max as well but I'm still waiting for the DCEU GLC movie, which is supposed to be a separate thing.

Basically, fuck off with Batman already, DC. Give us some other shit.

Damn that sounds amazing, probably my favorite DC character. I'll check this out for sure.

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Kajagogo posted...

I'd like to see a show about Arkham done in the style of Oz. And every once in a while a big name villain shows up.

Darmik posted...

Yeah I was gonna post that as a suggestion too. Arkham is probably a better perspective to see than the GCPD assuming they can't get Robert to actually turn up for the show.

For some reason, this post came to mind today and reminded me that there's a comic series they could actually base this on: Arkham Asylum: Living Hell.

Warren White is a businessman who embezzled millions from his company's pension fund and robs hundreds of people of their life savings. He pays off the right people to get declared legally insane, but this is a fuck-up on his part because the furious judge sends him to Arkham.

The series would actually work pretty well as a TV show because the big bads aren't major characters. It mostly uses villains created specifically for it. They would have to change the ending though. It works in the comic, but I don't think an Oz-type show would want to end with one of the prisoners summoning demons and Etrigan trying to stop them.

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Jeffrey Wright has enough time in his schedule between this and Westworld and maybe some other projects?

Unless Westworld ends by the time the Gotham PD show starts production

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