Current Events > "Same sex relationships are forbidden in the Bible!"

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What about being into feet?
Do they tackle that in the bible? The foot thing? Where people wanna fuck feet?
Is that in there?

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armandro posted...

because scripture meant for the people of that time

We don't need the scriptures anymore though, so get used to it.

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

Fuck any "God" that would give his creations the ability to think for themselves and the ability to have "Incorrect feelings" and then send them to hell for it.

If I tried to make a sandwich and I didn't want mustard on it but I did it anyways, that's my fucking fault.

Your sandwich is an inanimate object without consciousness, any divine spark, or free will.
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DuranOfForcena posted...

If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them
Leviticus 20:13

https://jewishstandard.timesofisrael.com/redefining-leviticus-2013/

Basically the Hebrew texts says man must bot lay with a male. Not man on man, which was preaching against pederasty. Basically against the Greeks who did this a lot. It was not a slight against all homosexuals. Though the lord always encouraged man and woman, mainly for reproductive reasons.

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I was told the old testament doesn't really count. That's why I can have bacon for breakfast.

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DeadlyNinjaBees posted...

What about being into feet?
Do they tackle that in the bible? The foot thing? Where people wanna fuck feet?
Is that in there?

All you foot fetish people are going to hell by default.

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armandro posted...

Romans 1:26-27 26. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

GOD did that so they wouldn't procreate anymore.

DarthSungKang posted...

It's weird that some people forget the lesson of Sodom and Gomorrah.

The lesson of Sodom and Gomorrah wasnt because they had homosexual relations. They literally did everything sinful and evil. They were rapist, thieves, and murder's.

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yutterh posted...

GOD did that so they wouldn't procreate anymore.

The lesson of Sodom and Gomorrah wasnt because they had homosexual relations. They literally did everything sinful and evil. They were rapist, thieves, and murder's.

It was part of it whether you like it or not; to the point that Lot offered up his daughters in place of the angels.
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yutterh posted...

GOD did that so they wouldn't procreate anymore.

The lesson of Sodom and Gomorrah wasnt because they had homosexual relations. They literally did everything sinful and evil. They were rapist, thieves, and murder's.

Armandro and DarthSungKang should try experimenting with the same sex for a change.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 New King James Version (NKJV)
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor [a]homosexuals, nor [b]sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were [c]sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

Pretty straight forward.

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-GalacticBass- posted...

Corinthians

More bigoted crap from that homophobe St. Paul who also wrote Romans.

So glad I'm going to hell with all the cool people.

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-GalacticBass- posted...

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 New King James Version (NKJV)
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor [a]homosexuals, nor [b]sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were [c]sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

Pretty straight forward.

So no one in the US is going to heaven except for baptized babies.

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KStateKing17 posted...

So no one in the US is going to heaven except for baptized babies.

That's actually way off. If you read the last verse, Paul is talking of people who used to walk on the path of sin but have repented and have been washed and justified by the blood of Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

If you repent of your sins and follow Christ, you will be saved.

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-GalacticBass- posted...

That's actually way off. If you read the last verse, Paul is talking of people who used to walk on the path of sin but have repented and have been washed and justified by the blood of Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

If you repent of your sins and follow Christ, you will be saved.

Proof?

Humble_Novice posted...

Proof?

https://youtu.be/4A24z5VMedY
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Humble_Novice posted...

Proof?

John 3:16 New King James Version (NKJV)
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.


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RedJackson posted...

Ask the male/male couple that goes to church or maybe ask the female/female couple if you want two sets of answers on what they think of the scripture

To piggyback on this post, for people who dont know many churchgoers, here are 2 pro-LGBT subreddits to peruse if youre interested:

This one is a progressive sub that has a focus on LGBT content https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenChristian/

This one is a more general revolutionary leftist/communist sub that isnt focused on LGBT content but is naturally pro-LGBT https://www.reddit.com/r/RadicalChristianity/

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Armando is right in one sense, that a lot of churches have split off from God. Christianity has become so scattershot and split over the years that you can't take any one reading as the definitive word of God. Whether we're talking about bias or not, there have been so many different translations of the Bible that change things up and word things in different ways, to the point that you have a "Satanic Bible" that's literally just a rushed piece of dogshit with typos all over the place. Nothing about it is satanic - it was just translated and transliterated by a bunch of morons who didn't give a fuck about quality control.

Another user brought up that the translation being used by users like Armando tends to err on the side of conservatism, where there are other translations that are truer to the text or a lot more open about the scripture. Which illustrates the point that you have branching schools of thought and religious expression within the bounds of Christianity, and they don't necessarily get along.

Someone else made a comment about how we should stop insisting that bigotry is inherent to the Christian faith. Unfortunately, there's a religious zeitgeist that does promote bigotry within the Christian faith. In western nations, you have organisations like Hillsong and the like, these fundie megachurches that preach a message of deserved affluence - that by the act of having more money, you are inherently deserving of that wealth and more worthy of a Christian than a Christian who is poor and struggling. In America specifically, you have the Bible Belt where Christian teachings are married with hardcore conservative rhetoric - with one of the most extreme organisations having been the Westboro Public Church, who picketed the funerals of soldiers and outwardly preached homophobia and intolerance. Bigotry isn't inherent to Christianity, but there are Christian sects where it is promoted and practiced as the word of God. The same way we should discuss the differences between Shi'a and Sunni Muslims in relation to Islam, we should acknowledge the different sects and schools of thoughts within the Christian faith, and acknowledge the bad apples of the bunch.

Considering how much of a hatchet job the Bible truly is - most of its books were written centuries apart and are apocryphal at best, and different books have been added and removed from the Bible by the church for thousands of years - I'm surprised that more academic Christians haven't thought to research the Torah. It's an Abrahamic text that has remained unchanged or minimally changed for the entirety of its existence, with fables and supposedly historical accounts of events concerning the Jewish people being added as they happened. It's written in one of the oldest languages on Earth. I imagine there are parts of the Bible that have been taken from the Torah and anglicized/condensed, and over the centuries those aspects of the text have been chopped up and re-translated so many times that they aren't an accurate portrayal of the original text - so as supposed scholars of the Bible, it would make sense to take the Torah into account.

Because if we're talking about the Christian word of God, you're pulling from multiple interpretations translated and interpreted through human hands, with each interpretation leaving its own biased fingerprint on the text. The more you fuck with a text that's supposedly the word of God, you're inserting more human bias into it, and with that bias comes an evil that's inherent to human bias - wilfully or not. So long story short, it really shouldn't matter whether you believe that the Bible advocates against gay people, because it's a hatchet job of unrelated narratives written centuries apart, translated through so many time periods and interpretations that the words that exist today might as well be meaningless, and filtered through so many unrelated schools of Christian thought that there's no way to get one single, definitive "word of God" from the Bible.

As a spiritual agnostic and a philosophical satanist, I think that's a more interesting line of commentary than a shitty troll job from a known shit-stirrer.

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MrMallard posted...

Armando is right in one sense, that a lot of churches have split off from God. Christianity has become so scattershot and split over the years that you can't take any one reading as the definitive word of God. Whether we're talking about bias or not, there have been so many different translations of the Bible that change things up and word things in different ways, to the point that you have a "Satanic Bible" that's literally just a rushed piece of dogshit with typos all over the place. Nothing about it is satanic - it was just translated and transliterated by a bunch of morons who didn't give a fuck about quality control.

Another user brought up that the translation being used by users like Armando tends to err on the side of conservatism, where there are other translations that are truer to the text or a lot more open about the scripture. Which illustrates the point that you have branching schools of thought and religious expression within the bounds of Christianity, and they don't necessarily get along.

Someone else made a comment about how we should stop insisting that bigotry is inherent to the Christian faith. Unfortunately, there's a religious zeitgeist that does promote bigotry within the Christian faith. In western nations, you have organisations like Hillsong and the like, these fundie megachurches that preach a message of deserved affluence - that by the act of having more money, you are inherently deserving of that wealth and more worthy of a Christian than a Christian who is poor and struggling. In America specifically, you have the Bible Belt where Christian teachings are married with hardcore conservative rhetoric - with one of the most extreme organisations having been the Westboro Public Church, who picketed the funerals of soldiers and outwardly preached homophobia and intolerance. Bigotry isn't inherent to Christianity, but there are Christian sects where it is promoted and practiced as the word of God. The same way we should discuss the differences between Shi'a and Sunni Muslims in relation to Islam, we should acknowledge the different sects and schools of thoughts within the Christian faith, and acknowledge the bad apples of the bunch.

Considering how much of a hatchet job the Bible truly is - most of its books were written centuries apart and are apocryphal at best, and different books have been added and removed from the Bible by the church for thousands of years - I'm surprised that more academic Christians haven't thought to research the Torah. It's an Abrahamic text that has remained unchanged or minimally changed for the entirety of its existence, with fables and supposedly historical accounts of events concerning the Jewish people being added as they happened. It's written in one of the oldest languages on Earth. I imagine there are parts of the Bible that have been taken from the Torah and anglicized/condensed, and over the centuries those aspects of the text have been chopped up and re-translated so many times that they aren't an accurate portrayal of the original text - so as supposed scholars of the Bible, it would make sense to take the Torah into account.

Because if we're talking about the Christian word of God, you're pulling from multiple interpretations translated and interpreted through human hands, with each interpretation leaving its own biased fingerprint on the text. The more you fuck with a text that's supposedly the word of God, you're inserting more human bias into it, and with that bias comes an evil that's inherent to human bias - wilfully or not. So long story short, it really shouldn't matter whether you believe that the Bible advocates against gay people, because it's a hatchet job of unrelated narratives written centuries apart, translated through so many time periods and interpretations that the words that exist today might as well be meaningless, and filtered through so many unrelated schools of Christian thought that there's no way to get one single, definitive "word of God" from the Bible.

As a spiritual agnostic and a philosophical satanist, I think that's a more interesting line of commentary than a shitty troll job from a known shit-stirrer.

Well-said, though I doubt that's going to stop the conservatrolls from trying to perpetuate the fundamentalist narrative of gays being evil and deserving of harm.

-GalacticBass- posted...

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 New King James Version (NKJV)
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor [a]homosexuals, nor [b]sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were [c]sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

Pretty straight forward.

This is talking about the wya things used to be, before god made a new covenant. John 3:16.

https://www.gotquestions.org/arsenokoitai.html

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TC thinks having a guy friend makes you gay.

MrMallard posted...

Armando is right in one sense, that a lot of churches have split off from God. Christianity has become so scattershot and split over the years that you can't take any one reading as the definitive word of God. Whether we're talking about bias or not, there have been so many different translations of the Bible that change things up and word things in different ways, to the point that you have a "Satanic Bible" that's literally just a rushed piece of dogshit with typos all over the place. Nothing about it is satanic - it was just translated and transliterated by a bunch of morons who didn't give a fuck about quality control.

Another user brought up that the translation being used by users like Armando tends to err on the side of conservatism, where there are other translations that are truer to the text or a lot more open about the scripture. Which illustrates the point that you have branching schools of thought and religious expression within the bounds of Christianity, and they don't necessarily get along.

Someone else made a comment about how we should stop insisting that bigotry is inherent to the Christian faith. Unfortunately, there's a religious zeitgeist that does promote bigotry within the Christian faith. In western nations, you have organisations like Hillsong and the like, these fundie megachurches that preach a message of deserved affluence - that by the act of having more money, you are inherently deserving of that wealth and more worthy of a Christian than a Christian who is poor and struggling. In America specifically, you have the Bible Belt where Christian teachings are married with hardcore conservative rhetoric - with one of the most extreme organisations having been the Westboro Public Church, who picketed the funerals of soldiers and outwardly preached homophobia and intolerance. Bigotry isn't inherent to Christianity, but there are Christian sects where it is promoted and practiced as the word of God. The same way we should discuss the differences between Shi'a and Sunni Muslims in relation to Islam, we should acknowledge the different sects and schools of thoughts within the Christian faith, and acknowledge the bad apples of the bunch.

Considering how much of a hatchet job the Bible truly is - most of its books were written centuries apart and are apocryphal at best, and different books have been added and removed from the Bible by the church for thousands of years - I'm surprised that more academic Christians haven't thought to research the Torah. It's an Abrahamic text that has remained unchanged or minimally changed for the entirety of its existence, with fables and supposedly historical accounts of events concerning the Jewish people being added as they happened. It's written in one of the oldest languages on Earth. I imagine there are parts of the Bible that have been taken from the Torah and anglicized/condensed, and over the centuries those aspects of the text have been chopped up and re-translated so many times that they aren't an accurate portrayal of the original text - so as supposed scholars of the Bible, it would make sense to take the Torah into account.

Because if we're talking about the Christian word of God, you're pulling from multiple interpretations translated and interpreted through human hands, with each interpretation leaving its own biased fingerprint on the text. The more you fuck with a text that's supposedly the word of God, you're inserting more human bias into it, and with that bias comes an evil that's inherent to human bias - wilfully or not. So long story short, it really shouldn't matter whether you believe that the Bible advocates against gay people, because it's a hatchet job of unrelated narratives written centuries apart, translated through so many time periods and interpretations that the words that exist today might as well be meaningless, and filtered through so many unrelated schools of Christian thought that there's no way to get one single, definitive "word of God" from the Bible.

As a spiritual agnostic and a philosophical satanist, I think that's a more interesting line of commentary than a shitty troll job from a known shit-stirrer.

thank you mallard
follow your own beliefs


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"Philosophical Satanist"

lmao

armandro posted...

follow your own beliefs

Ok, Aleister Crowley.
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DarthSungKang posted...

It was part of it whether you like it or not; to the point that Lot offered up his daughters in place of the angels.

It was in, because they also raped males.

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DarthSungKang posted...

Ok, Aleister Crowley.

lmao you picked up on my sarcasm


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TheCurseX2 posted...

"Philosophical Satanist"

lmao

I don't believe in any religious institutions, least of all a hackjob corporation run by a bunch of bigoted carnies. I find the philosophical side of Satanism to be interesting, in its preaching of personal freedom alongside one's responsibility to others. Nothing about philosophical satanism is anti-religion, moreso about understanding the way religions work and looking out for yourself.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfg4SYjc9cg

stepping stones

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DeadlyNinjaBees posted...

Wait, what?
How is that worth being Christian for?!?!

Lol. Yea no harem.

Heaven as described in the bible is not what American tv has portrayed it as.
Like lounging around playing golf with hot babes isn't what I find in bible verse descriptions of heaven.

armandro posted...

lmao you picked up on my sarcasm

:)
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MrMallard posted...

I don't believe in any religious institutions, least of all a hackjob corporation run by a bunch of bigoted carnies. I find the philosophical side of Satanism to be interesting, in its preaching of personal freedom alongside one's responsibility to others. Nothing about philosophical satanism is anti-religion, moreso about understanding the way religions work and looking out for yourself.

Your parent must be proud.

TheCurseX2 posted...

Your parent must be proud.

religion = community


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TheCurseX2 posted...

Your parent must be proud.

My parent was raised Christian, but became areligious later in life. She didn't have me or my sister baptized because she wanted us to have the freedom to find religion if it resonated with us, rather than having us inducted into a religion that we didn't resonate with.

I actually experimented with religion a couple of times, and I've been ambivalent about Christianity for most of my life. Hence why I call myself spiritually agnostic. I've been dabbling in satanist ideology recently, but it's not as sensationalized as you seem to believe it is - nothing about blood hexes or ritualistic sacrifice or whatever crazy shit "satanism" might sound like to you, just discourse about personal freedom and responsibility to others. It's a school of thought, a take on philosophy - nothing occult.

I've said what I want to say about religion, so I'm going to stop taking the bait in this topic. You can't touch a single thing I've said thus far, and I've made the points I wanted to make.

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"to know someone" means to have sexual relations with them, as in Genesis 4:1: "And Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain."

The New Testament talks about Jesus "knowing" John and showering him with love quite a bit. Just sayin.

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Humble_Novice posted...

Well-said, though I doubt that's going to stop the conservatrolls from trying to perpetuate the fundamentalist narrative of gays being evil and deserving of harm.

It should be noted that just because the bible doesn't support something doesn't mean it authorizes harm.
Basically the stance the bible takes on homosexually from a textual view is no different than the stance it takes on having sex with your girlfriend or remarrying because you no longer love your wife. These things are seen as normal in modern society but textually the bible views them as sins.

But historically the bible has been used as a tool for harm and hate not because it authorizes that to sinner but in spite of sinners being who Jesus died for. Basically Jesus was a pacifist so the likes of the crusades and such are far far from his teachings.

MrMallard posted...

You can't touch a single thing I've said thus far

Yes, because you're mentally deranged.

so whats the the point of this topic?

pls explain

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The Bible condems homosexuality. If anyone is interested in my proof, add a comment and ask


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MegaRaptor1914 posted...

The Bible condems homosexuality. If anyone is interested in my proof, add a comment and ask

Good thing the bible is a bad basis for a moral compass then.

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What's you mean?

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I, for one, love Jehovah and the Bible.

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Bolle_Henk_ posted...

Good thing the bible is a bad basis for a moral compass then.

Not the point of this topic. Tc was trying to determine the stance the bible takes on an issue.
Not determine if you personally should agree with it.

That means I can and will show you how it's the best book there is.

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I prove the Bible condemn it now if you like

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Read 1 CPR 6:10.

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1 Cor 6:10

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And this one goes straight to the ignore list
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Why ignore list?

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And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet.
14 And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it.

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