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Humble_Novice
04/05/21 1:14:56 AM
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DarthSungKang posted...
It's weird that some people forget the lesson of Sodom and Gomorrah.
And that lesson was to be more hospitable to guests.
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CouldBeAnAlt
04/05/21 1:15:28 AM
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DarthSungKang posted...
It's weird that some people forget the lesson of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Just get banned again already

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Metal_Bug
04/05/21 1:15:31 AM
#54:


DarthSungKang posted...
It's weird that some people forget the lesson of Sodom and Gomorrah.
That religious people kill, rape, and pillage entire cities because God said it was ok?
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RedJackson
04/05/21 1:15:40 AM
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The edge is real here

You have a fool quoting scripture and unrelated texts with no understanding of the functions of marriage, sin, or appointed apostles within the domain of Christianity

I guess whats strange is how much connect the dot theory is applicable when its for this narrative

because when a Christian applies the same connect the dot technique I guess something magical happens in which people start to say hey thats hypocritical and youre trying to stretch out the truth to make Christianity look nice

Ask the male/male couple that goes to church or maybe ask the female/female couple if you want two sets of answers on what they think of the scripture


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Mackorov
04/05/21 1:15:49 AM
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homosexuality was completely discriminated against for centuries until just recently.

So no, OP. You're wrong. If we even go by the context of period, people back then would likely view homosexuality with the same disgust
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pure_temper
04/05/21 1:16:01 AM
#57:


Humble_Novice posted...
And that lesson was to be more hospitable to guests.

yep

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pure_temper
04/05/21 1:16:55 AM
#58:


RedJackson posted...
The edge is real here

You have a fool quoting scripture and unrelated texts with no understanding of the functions of marriage, sin, or appointed apostles within the domain of Christianity

I guess whats strange is how much connect the dot theory is applicable when its for this narrative

because when a Christian applies the same connect the dot technique I guess something magical happens in which people start to say hey thats hypocritical and youre trying to stretch out the truth to make Christianity look nice

Ask the male/male couple that goes to church or maybe ask the female/female couple if you want two sets of answers on what they think of the scripture

yeah you can tell which users here have literally never known a single gay or lesbian or bi or queer person in their lives lmao

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DarthSungKang
04/05/21 1:17:19 AM
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armandro
04/05/21 1:17:54 AM
#60:


pure_temper posted...
It's really weird that some people want the Bible to be against it tbh
nah
its weird that people want it to be for it
like go back to the start of stuff

its the way things should be here

dont know why you would think otherwise
think of the holy family

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pure_temper
04/05/21 1:19:21 AM
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armandro posted...
nah
its weird that people want it to be for it
like go back to the start of stuff

its the way things should be here

dont know why you would think otherwise
think of the holy family

what?

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Metal_Bug
04/05/21 1:20:58 AM
#62:


armandro posted...
nah
its weird that people want it to be for it
like go back to the start of stuff

its the way things should be here

dont know why you would think otherwise
think of the holy family
Maybe God doesn't exist, so you're being an asshole to people whose lifestyle don't affect you negatively in the least for absolutely no reason.
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armandro
04/05/21 1:21:07 AM
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pure_temper posted...
what?
what part is confusing?


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armandro
04/05/21 1:21:31 AM
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Metal_Bug posted...
Maybe God doesn't exist, so you're being an asshole to people whose lifestyle don't affect you negatively in the least for absolutely no reason.
and thats fine but the person im quoting claims God does exist

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DarthSungKang
04/05/21 1:22:35 AM
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https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/theconfessionals/episode-61

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https://youtu.be/HjaCzmsz-Z0 (click to expand)
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Metal_Bug
04/05/21 1:23:12 AM
#66:


armandro posted...
and thats fine but the person im quoting claims God does exist
Idgaf, I can deduce from your comment that you're a homophobe, which puts you on one of the lowest rungs in modern society. The future holds no place for people like you.
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pure_temper
04/05/21 1:24:30 AM
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armandro posted...
what part is confusing?

literally everything you said is just wrong. Jesus' parents have nothing to do with same-sex relationships. Adam and Eve don't either, the entire point was to create humans who could reproduce. same-sex couples do not, obviously, but that doesn't have anything to do with the morality of anything. etc.

seems like you're trying hard to read it into the text. you know that people used to do the same thing with literally everything else society liked in the past, right? they always try to piggyback/cherrypick the holy text in their culture to justify their own evils/hatred. because it sounds more impressive when "God is on my side" is the reason for bigotry

meanwhile notice how the people who are so fine-tooth combing for anti-gay sentiment, never seem to say a peep about taxing the billionaires more or the love for money which is the root of all evil.

seems priorities are skewed for another reason beyond what the text really says or doesn't say

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hockeybub89
04/05/21 1:26:34 AM
#69:


armandro really wants to prove that God hates gay people

Why did God create gay people if them having sex or even thinking about it is an abomination? He just forces some people to play on hard mode for the lulz?

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pure_temper
04/05/21 1:27:45 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
armandro really wants to prove that God hates gay people

toxic masculinity probably. makes it a crime to like dudes, because it's not "manly" or w/e

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DarthSungKang
04/05/21 1:28:08 AM
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pure_temper
04/05/21 1:28:58 AM
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"beware of false prophets"

> never says a single damn thing about "the love for money is the root of all evil" and billionaires

yeah okay buddy

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pure_temper
04/05/21 1:30:24 AM
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Lil Nas X will get to heaven sooner than the Pharisees by the way

The Pharisees are the ones who are guilty of the Unforgivable Sin. read about that to refresh your memory on what that is.

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FF_Redux
04/05/21 1:31:03 AM
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Mixing fabrics to weqr was just as bad as homosexuality according to parts of the bible, why arent we killing ppl for that then?

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cymbaline
04/05/21 1:33:04 AM
#75:


Shadowplay posted...
Why the hell do you guys keep posting verses from the NIV? It is an absolute trash translation that reflects the bias of its evangelical (read: nutjob) staff. Use the NRSV instead.
It's the version I grew up with.

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hockeybub89
04/05/21 1:33:44 AM
#76:


pure_temper posted...
Lil Nas X will get to heaven sooner than the Pharisees by the way

The Pharisees are the ones who are guilty of the Unforgivable Sin. read about that to refresh your memory on what that is.
It's fucked up that basically being an atheist is more unforgivable than raping and murdering. Kind of makes me want to commit the unforgivable sin to tell God and his Holy Spirit where to stick it.

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DarthSungKang
04/05/21 1:33:46 AM
#77:


pure_temper posted...
"beware of false prophets"

> never says a single damn thing about "the love for money is the root of all evil" and billionaires

yeah okay buddy


Jesus was a carpenter. He worked in the private sector.
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pure_temper
04/05/21 1:37:00 AM
#78:


hockeybub89 posted...
It's fucked up that basically being an atheist is more unforgivable than raping and murdering. Kind of makes me want to commit the unforgivable sin to tell God and his Holy Spirit where to stick it.

lol you're funny dude. anyway google it because the unforgivable sin is not something you can do. it's when you see a miracle and are so prideful that you say Lucifer did it, the way the Pharisees did. they were so prideful that they could not accept a carpenter challenging their orthodoxy & system of rules, because it meant they'd have to relinquish control

So they stooped that low out of pride, to see the miracles Jesus was doing and to say "nope, we know it's demonic power"

and being an atheist is not wrong in itself. it's a legitimate position one can wade through in life.

DarthSungKang posted...
Jesus was a carpenter. He worked in the private sector.

lmao get out of here dude

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DarthSungKang
04/05/21 1:39:00 AM
#79:


pure_temper posted...


lol you're funny dude. anyway google it because the unforgivable sin is not something you can do. it's when you see a miracle and are so prideful that you say Lucifer did it, the way the Pharisees did. they were so prideful that they could not accept a carpenter challenging their orthodoxy & system of rules, because it meant they'd have to relinquish control

So they stooped that low out of pride, to see the miracles Jesus was doing and to say "nope, we know it's demonic power"

and being an atheist is not wrong in itself. it's a legitimate position one can wade through in life.

lmao get out of here dude


https://www.openbible.info/topics/give_a_man_a_fish_feed_him_for_a_day

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armandro
04/05/21 1:41:26 AM
#80:


god doesn't hate gay people
god just doesn't like gay sex

is that hard to understand?
can you guys seperate the two?

pure_temper posted...
literally everything you said is just wrong. Jesus' parents have nothing to do with same-sex relationships. Adam and Eve don't either, the entire point was to create humans who could reproduce. same-sex couples do not, obviously, but that doesn't have anything to do with the morality of anything. etc.

seems like you're trying hard to read it into the text. you know that people used to do the same thing with literally everything else society liked in the past, right? they always try to piggyback/cherrypick the holy text in their culture to justify their own evils/hatred. because it sounds more impressive when "God is on my side" is the reason for bigotry

meanwhile notice how the people who are so fine-tooth combing for anti-gay sentiment, never seem to say a peep about taxing the billionaires more or the love for money which is the root of all evil.

seems priorities are skewed for another reason beyond what the text really says or doesn't say
What do you mean it doesn't matter?
literally that is how God made the world
and how God chose to enter the world as man.

If he was pro gay marriage
don't you think he would have picked a gay couple to give birth to him?


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pure_temper
04/05/21 1:42:54 AM
#81:


armandro you don't seem right for this conversation so I will decline to comment further on your posts, feel free to read my previous response to you again because you literally did nothing to contradict any specific claim i made.

i don't care what you think lol.

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armandro
04/05/21 1:48:52 AM
#82:


pure_temper posted...
armandro you don't seem right for this conversation so I will decline to comment further on your posts, feel free to read my previous response to you again because you literally did nothing to contradict any specific claim i made.

i don't care what you think lol.
wow you don't care?

seems very unchristian of you

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pure_temper
04/05/21 1:50:14 AM
#83:


yeah I don't care, you're either a troll or a really lazy thinker

in either case waste of time

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RedJackson
04/05/21 1:50:26 AM
#84:


armandro posted...
wow you don't care?

seems very unchristian of you

Idk man, as they say - theres so many different variations of the Bible and that same passage that its honestly like

who really knows right?

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armandro
04/05/21 1:51:36 AM
#85:


RedJackson posted...
Idk man, as they say - theres so many different variations of the Bible and that same passage that its honestly like

who really knows right?

lol
I think every single Bible agrees that God create Man and Women.

Idk how he can deny that.

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pure_temper
04/05/21 1:52:09 AM
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nobody denied that God created men and women

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nexigrams
04/05/21 1:53:45 AM
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Don't you have to sell your daughter into slavery for 2 pieces of silver or some shit if she talks back to you according to the Bible? When taken literally it might not the best text for life decisions, if I'm being honest. The whole love thy neighbor theme seems good, but like all the random specific rules that were so obviously jammed in there by some local priest with a power complex, might wanna ignore that shit.

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pure_temper
04/05/21 1:56:16 AM
#88:


nexigrams posted...
Don't you have to sell your daughter into slavery for 2 pieces of silver or some shit if she talks back to you according to the Bible? When taken literally it might not the best text for life decisions, if I'm being honest. The whole love thy neighbor theme seems good, but like all the random specific rules that were so obviously jammed in there by some local priest with a power complex, might wanna ignore that shit.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22%3A36-40&version=MSG

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RedJackson
04/05/21 1:59:35 AM
#89:


armandro posted...
I think every single Bible agrees that God create Man and Women.

Idk how he can deny that.

Well first I guess let me apologize for coming off crass cause Im just jaded as all hell

but honestly there are discrepancies within the Bible but to what extent and for actually what Im not sure.

In truth its useless to try and make what you believe out of the Bible applicable to someone else because something like Christianity is personal between you and God

How you chose to interpret the base values given within a particular context within that book is up to you - I guess you can have a hang of murderers try and use the word to justify their actions

but that would be too far from the spirit of things actually said in the Bible

in that alone you know there is good and bad - some form of morality established not only by action, but things like the actual redundancy of slaying someone else

in the case of the Bible and that particular passage its clear we live in a society so

Ive seen older versions state that passage as something else and for me, thats how I guess Ill reconcile what I choose to believe in outta the religion

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DarthSungKang
04/05/21 2:08:37 AM
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nexigrams
04/05/21 2:08:49 AM
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pure_temper posted...
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22%3A36-40&version=MSG
Well, there you go. You don't even have to use common sense or try to parse what fits and what doesn't fit with Jesus's teachings. If you wanna be a Christian, it just tells you straight up, don't a dick to other people. This is the ultimate law.

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armandro
04/05/21 2:10:07 AM
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very true
but we have to answer the age old question

What is Love?

Pslams give us a good idea

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pure_temper
04/05/21 2:10:20 AM
#93:


baby dont hurt me

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armandro
04/05/21 2:14:38 AM
#94:


pure_temper posted...
baby dont hurt me
the funny thing about that song is when you really do love someone you do feel pain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKiw4PgrVWo

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
04/05/21 2:17:05 AM
#95:


Fuck any "God" that would give his creations the ability to think for themselves and the ability to have "Incorrect feelings" and then send them to hell for it.

If I tried to make a sandwich and I didn't want mustard on it but I did it anyways, that's my fucking fault.

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Humble_Novice
04/05/21 2:26:35 AM
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Humble_Novice
04/05/21 2:26:56 AM
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darkphoenix181
04/05/21 2:46:10 AM
#98:


pure_temper posted...
lol you're a perfect example of the type of Pharisee hubris that ruins your own understanding

read the entire chapter

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+19&version=NIV

he was explicitly asked by the Pharisees about a man divorcing his wife. the question was framed that way from the beginning.

Why do you believe the question he was asked has any bearing on unrelated information he voluntarily gave before he answered the question?

His answer was you don't have sex in heaven so she won't be anyone's wife.

But he went into a whole thing about God making them man and woman and that is why they get married. I mean, his whole implication is that Eve was once part of Adam's body because she is a female. This logic, being Jesus logic, would call to question where the link between two men come as one was not metaphorically the rib of the other as in the bible tradition. I say metaphorically because only Eve was even by bible standards literally a rib.
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Humble_Novice
04/05/21 3:00:11 AM
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DeadlyNinjaBees
04/05/21 3:10:37 AM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
His answer was you don't have sex in heaven so she won't be anyone's wife.
Wait, what?
How is that worth being Christian for?!?!

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armandro
04/05/21 3:18:32 AM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
Why do you believe the question he was asked has any bearing on unrelated information he voluntarily gave before he answered the question?

His answer was you don't have sex in heaven so she won't be anyone's wife.

But he went into a whole thing about God making them man and woman and that is why they get married. I mean, his whole implication is that Eve was once part of Adam's body because she is a female. This logic, being Jesus logic, would call to question where the link between two men come as one was not metaphorically the rib of the other as in the bible tradition. I say metaphorically because only Eve was even by bible standards literally a rib.
ty at least you were able to come to that conclusion

but he just dismissed whatever i said
calling me a troll

we do need to look into scripture
because scripture meant for the people of that time

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