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hungrymike
04/04/21 7:25:03 PM
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Not as good as lord of the rings.
Also
Lotr>harry potter
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Blightzkrieg
04/04/21 7:27:51 PM
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this opinion has all the spice of white bread, wow

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Mead
04/04/21 7:31:11 PM
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Star Wars is mostly a pretty crappy franchise imo, with just a few rare exceptions

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deoxxys
04/04/21 8:18:03 PM
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Mead posted...
Star Wars is mostly a pretty crappy franchise imo, with just a few rare exceptions
True

At least LOTR is consistent

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Link_of_time
04/04/21 10:07:07 PM
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I mean lotr only had to be good for 3 movies and star wars did that. Neither of their prequels were good.

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Zeus
04/04/21 10:19:06 PM
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hungrymike posted...
Not as good as lord of the rings.

BALONEY!

hungrymike posted...
Lotr>harry potter

Fair.

deoxxys posted...
Mead posted...

Star Wars is mostly a pretty crappy franchise imo, with just a few rare exceptions

I'd say that Mead has consistently crappy opinions, but he's generally just trolling with nonsense like that.

deoxxys posted...
True

At least LOTR is consistent

Untrue, if you're comparing LOTR vs SW and not just the Peter Jackson LOTR movies. (Which would be the only fair thing to do if you were talking about SW as a franchise.)

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Muscles
04/04/21 10:21:22 PM
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Both of those are just facts

LotR is a masterpiece. While SW is good it's not high art like LotR

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ParanoidObsessive
04/04/21 10:24:08 PM
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deoxxys posted...
At least LOTR is consistent

Well, if Hobbit counts as part of the franchise LotR's score drops from 100% down to about 50% in terms of good/bad film ratio.

And then we get into the thornier issue of whether or not the Rankin-Bass films and the Ralph Bakshi film count as part of the franchise.

And let's be honest, the upcoming Amazon "prequel" series is almost certainly going to suck.

So in that sense, LotR's pretty on-part with Star Wars.
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Blightzkrieg
04/04/21 10:24:59 PM
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The Hobbit films are probably worse than any Star Wars films tbh

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ParanoidObsessive
04/04/21 10:26:10 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
The Hobbit films are probably worse than any Star Wars films tbh

I've seen Episode VIII and IX, so I'd strongly disagree.
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Blightzkrieg
04/04/21 10:33:04 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
I've seen Episode VIII and IX, so I'd strongly disagree.
Wow, so you don't even have an excuse for being wrong

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Zeus
04/05/21 1:42:23 AM
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Muscles posted...
Both of those are just facts

LotR is a masterpiece. While SW is good it's not high art like LotR

lolno

ParanoidObsessive posted...
I've seen Episode VIII and IX, so I'd strongly disagree.

idk, other than the Finn-Rose side-quest, Episode VIII was at least tolerable, unlike Episode VII.

And I still haven't seen IX.

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ClarkDuke
04/05/21 1:47:28 AM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
this opinion has all the spice of white bread, wow

Muscles posted...
Both of those are just facts

Blightzkrieg posted...
The Hobbit films are probably worse than any Star Wars films tbh


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Metalsonic66
04/05/21 2:05:18 AM
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Ironically I like the Hobbit book more than the LotR series

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ParanoidObsessive
04/05/21 4:16:28 PM
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Zeus posted...
idk, other than the Finn-Rose side-quest, Episode VIII was at least tolerable

Pretty much everything involving Poe was shit as well.

The Luke stuff, while entirely workable with a better writer/script, was handled poorly, which kind of weakens both it and the Rey/Kylo stuff.

And Snoke was basically casually thrown away on a whim, which pretty much ruins him as a character and everything he's involved with.

VIII as a whole is so bad, it both retroactively makes VII worse, as well as making it impossible for IX to be anything other than terrible. That wasn't entirely Rion Johnson's fault, but he's the metaphorical equivalent of standing over a body with a bloody knife in your hand and a guilty look on your face, with the body being the entire Star Wars franchise.
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Zeus
04/05/21 8:10:58 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
Pretty much everything involving Poe was shit as well.

But shit I had less problem sitting through.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
And Snoke was [...], which pretty much ruins him as a character and everything he's involved with.

Snoke was kinda DOA so at least there wasn't much to ruin.

ParanoidObsessive posted...


VIII as a whole is so bad, it both retroactively makes VII worse,

Yet it's still better than VII.


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Blightzkrieg
04/05/21 8:19:37 PM
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I still cannot fucking believe some board room at Disney looked at Snoke and thought "this will be a great villain for the sequel trilogy"

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OhhhJa
04/05/21 8:26:54 PM
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Star wars is pretty overrated honestly. Even the old movies
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Metalsonic66
04/05/21 8:28:52 PM
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Sequels > Prequels

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PK_Spam
04/05/21 8:49:23 PM
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Thats not that controversial, and I like a lot of Star Wars

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HornedLion
04/05/21 9:00:50 PM
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Idk how to feel about this topic.

Before the most recent trilogy, I would defend SW adamantly. But after the trilogy, I kinda want to concede. BUT... The Mandalorian has done an amazing job at breathing life to a franchise that died in my heart with that second movie in the new Disney SW trilogy. See? It sucked so much I dont even care to remember the names of them.

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agesboy
04/06/21 3:07:44 AM
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there was some good EU star wars shit, but the movies have never been better than decent

star wars' appeal has always been setting up the setting for me

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Zeus
04/06/21 4:54:07 AM
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Accidentally spoiled even more shit for myself while looking up stuff about Snoke, although I had previously had a major related element of IX spoiled.

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TomNook
04/06/21 5:10:42 AM
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How about a hotter take:
There is only 1 good Harry Potter movie, period, and it's Prisoner of Azkaban (I know it's generally regarded as the best, but I'm saying it's the only one that's even good).

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Zeus
04/06/21 5:22:27 AM
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TomNook posted...
How about a hotter take:
There is only 1 good Harry Potter movie, period, and it's Prisoner of Azkaban (I know it's generally regarded as the best, but I'm saying it's the only one that's even good).

The one with the time-turner? That seemed the silliest (then again, I think I've only seen the first three in their entirety, and then maybe half of the fourth)

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TomNook
04/06/21 5:30:19 AM
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Zeus posted...
The one with the time-turner? That seemed the silliest (then again, I think I've only seen the first three in their entirety, and then maybe half of the fourth)
It was. I think time travel can make something fun if it previously wasn't, but can also ruin things just as easily if it actually was good before (a certain famous ABC show from the 2000s for example). I only even gave Azkaban a 7/10; I just care so little for the HP franchise.

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Metalsonic66
04/06/21 11:44:39 AM
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TomNook posted...
How about a hotter take:
There is only 1 good Harry Potter movie, period, and it's Prisoner of Azkaban (I know it's generally regarded as the best, but I'm saying it's the only one that's even good).
That was one of my least favorite because it's when they started wearing casual muggle clothes like jeans and hoodies, even when at school

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Zeus
04/06/21 2:32:47 PM
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TomNook posted...
but can also ruin things just as easily if it actually was good before (a certain famous ABC show from the 2000s for example).

Oh, I'm guessing you don't mean one of the ones like Do Over where it was the central gimmick? (And fuck the networks for canceling Do Over.) Probably.... Heroes? Haven't seen it, but would make sense.

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TomNook
04/06/21 4:29:41 PM
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Zeus posted...
Oh, I'm guessing you don't mean one of the ones like Do Over where it was the central gimmick? (And fuck the networks for canceling Do Over.) Probably.... Heroes? Haven't seen it, but would make sense.
I only saw the first season of Heroes, but that was there from the beginning, as it was one of the main character's power. Referring to Lost, where time travel got introduced in the season 4 finale...in a series with 6 seasons.

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darkknight109
04/14/21 9:11:29 PM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
Sequels > Prequels
In other news, water is wet.

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Zeus
04/14/21 9:22:28 PM
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darkknight109 posted...
In other news, water is wet.

The prequels are bad, but the sequels are painful at times.

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DirtBasedSoap
04/14/21 9:23:44 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
Wow, so you don't even have an excuse for being wrong
the hobbit trilogy was a million times better than the last jedi and rise of skywalker

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SpaceBear_
04/14/21 9:39:04 PM
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Lord of the Rings is vastly superior to Star Wars in every way. But I guess that's my opinion.

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darkknight109
04/14/21 10:47:25 PM
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Zeus posted...
The prequels are bad, but the sequels are painful at times.
Episode VII is fine. Episode VIII is good, though not great. Episode IX is a dumpster fire.

And yet, all three still manage to be better than Episodes II and III, mostly because it would be difficult for them to be any worse. Episode I more or less wins the best prequel award by default and even then the only sequel it manages to surpass in quality is Episode IX.

At least the sequels had competent directors. Episode IX aside, at least they had internally consistent plots. At least they had a script editor on staff, knew what a second take was, and had special effects that didn't look like a slightly-better-than-average PS2 game. That's all more than I can say for any of the prequels.

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Zareth
04/14/21 11:28:59 PM
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SpaceBear_ posted...
Lord of the Rings is vastly superior to Star Wars in every way. But I guess that's my opinion.


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Criminalt
04/15/21 2:55:15 PM
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Though the topic title was going to be "... just a movie franchise".

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Cruddy_horse
04/15/21 3:50:11 PM
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LoTR is obviously better.

Also am I the only one that enjoyed the Hobbit movies? They wern't masterpieces and I thought the second one was kinda flat but I still liked the first one.
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MeteoricBurst
04/15/21 5:08:32 PM
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I never got the craze over SW at all, I guess it's mostly an American thing. I think its mediocre.

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darkknight109
04/15/21 5:13:32 PM
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Cruddy_horse posted...
Also am I the only one that enjoyed the Hobbit movies? They wern't masterpieces and I thought the second one was kinda flat but I still liked the first one.
I thought the second one was solid, but the first and third were just tediously dull. Like... I had no reason to care about any of these characters other than Bilbo. The dwarves, aside from Thorin Asshole, may as well have been faceless extras. You can basically divide them into the old wise one, the one who wants to bang an elf, and the rest and I've literally just described all the characterization the movies give them.

Also, it is completely ridiculous that the visual effects of The Hobbit movies look so much worse than the LotR movies, despite being released a full decade later.

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Metalsonic66
04/16/21 5:07:46 AM
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I think adding some of the side material to the Hobbit movie in order to flesh it out and give us another side of the story was a good idea.

Three movies was overkill, though, and too many scenes were played up past the point of ridiculousness

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