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HiddenRoar
03/31/21 4:00:07 PM
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And this can be attributed to Democrats, thanks Democrats.

A bakery that opened in the 1850s is now closing its doors for good, as today marks the last day that Loves Bakery will be in business. The institution, which has been in existence since before the overthrow of the Hawaiian monarchy, could not over overcome the COVID pandemic shutting down business and tourism, and with the second round of the PPP loan initially limited to small businesses and with no help from the State legislature, they finally folded under their financial obligations.

RIP Jumbo Sesame Hamburger Buns.
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realnifty1
03/31/21 4:01:14 PM
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Maybe they should have ordered some bootstraps.
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TheOtherMike
03/31/21 4:03:40 PM
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HiddenRoar posted...
And this can be attributed to Democrats

Citation needed
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TendoDRM
03/31/21 4:06:50 PM
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TheOtherMike posted...
Citation needed
Democrats created Covid, you see.

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HiddenRoar
03/31/21 4:14:17 PM
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TheOtherMike posted...


Citation needed

That Biden (Democrat) changed the PPP rules so that only small businesses of 20 employees or less can apply for the loan first?
https://www.businessinsider.com/ppp-loan-rules-change-biden-small-business-loans-covid-pandemic-2021-2

Or that Hawaii is run by a Democrat Governor/(then-)Mayor?
https://governor.hawaii.gov/

https://www.civilbeat.org/topics/kirk-caldwell/
Kirk William Caldwell is an American politician who served as the mayor of Honolulu, Hawaii, from 2013 to 2021. A member of the Democratic Party, Caldwell also held the position of acting mayor in 2010 following the resignation of Mayor Mufi Hannemann.

Or that the Hawaii State Legislature has a Democrat supermajority?
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/members/legislators.aspx?chamber=S
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/members/legislators.aspx?chamber=H

You won't click on any of that though.
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bnui_ransder
03/31/21 4:17:33 PM
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I will miss them soooo much

I grew up eating the shit out of the white donettes

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Omnislasher
03/31/21 4:19:12 PM
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HiddenRoar posted...
You won't click on any of that though.
you are correct

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ButImUrStepSis
03/31/21 4:19:55 PM
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realnifty1 posted...
Maybe they should have ordered some bootstraps.
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Solar_Crimson
03/31/21 4:23:51 PM
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HiddenRoar posted...
And this can be attributed to Democrats, thanks Democrats.


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DarkChozoGhost
03/31/21 4:24:02 PM
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If Trump hadn't done such a terrible job handling the pandemic maybe we could have opened sooner.

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Doe
03/31/21 4:25:33 PM
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American fetishism of small business is weird. Business shouldn't be conflated with culture or heritage.

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King_Hellebuyck
03/31/21 4:25:46 PM
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Its Joe Bidens fault that tourist related businesses are closing at a time when travel is dangerous!

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CADE FOSTER
03/31/21 4:25:57 PM
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alt right deflecting as usual maybe if ur go Trump had taken covid seriously none of us would be in this mess to begin with it all falls on Trump all of it
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eston
03/31/21 4:27:24 PM
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Lord_Shadow_19
03/31/21 4:30:55 PM
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Most of the people on this board are basement dwelling shut-ins who have no idea how the real world works.

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TheOtherMike
03/31/21 4:31:05 PM
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HiddenRoar posted...
That Biden (Democrat) changed the PPP rules so that only small businesses of 20 employees or less can apply for the loan first?
https://www.businessinsider.com/ppp-loan-rules-change-biden-small-business-loans-covid-pandemic-2021-2

How long did that restriction last?

HiddenRoar posted...
Or that Hawaii is run by a Democrat Governor/(then-)Mayor?

HiddenRoar posted...
Or that the Hawaii State Legislature has a Democrat supermajority?

How are these relevant?
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Gafemage
03/31/21 4:36:20 PM
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that really sucks
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Flamer_Blue
03/31/21 4:37:52 PM
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What do Democrats have to do here?
If anything, this whole mess started under a Republican who never even had an actual plan.

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redlem
03/31/21 4:37:57 PM
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"Businesses tied to President Donald Trump's family and associates stand to receive as much as $21 million in government loans designed to shore up payroll expenses for companies struggling amid the coronavirus pandemic, according to federal data released Monday." 7/8/20 Propublica

But no worries, Trump and the Kush didn't take a salary.
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Vampire_Wreath
03/31/21 4:41:14 PM
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HiddenRoar
03/31/21 5:18:45 PM
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TheOtherMike posted...


How long did that restriction last?

Long enough to prevent Loves from obtaining the funds needed to pay rent.

TheOtherMike posted...


How are these relevant?

https://governor.hawaii.gov/emergency-proclamations/page/3/

CADE FOSTER posted...
alt right deflecting as usual maybe if ur go Trump had taken covid seriously none of us would be in this mess to begin with it all falls on Trump all of it

France is entering another lockdown due to COVID numbers, is Macron a secret fascist, or is it because COVID will spread regardless of measures taken?

King_Hellebuyck posted...
Its Joe Bidens fault that tourist related businesses are closing at a time when travel is dangerous!

Can't read, huh. Changing PPP has nothing to do with tourism.

Doe posted...
American fetishism of small business is weird. Business shouldn't be conflated with culture or heritage.

Another person who can't read.
Also, Loves is iconic to Hawaii, unlike the mainland with several different ****** bread companies, basically everyone who grew up in Hawaii knows Loves since it's local (AKA not frozen-and-shipped-on-a-boat-for-weeks bread)
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TomNook20
03/31/21 5:20:58 PM
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Alt Left Icon Joe Biden is destroying America one small business at a time.

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WaterLink
03/31/21 5:21:35 PM
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Was this started by those ancient Hawaiians that Tito was always talking about?
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PrettyBoyFloyd
03/31/21 5:22:27 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
If Trump hadn't done such a terrible job handling the pandemic maybe we could have opened sooner.

Trump couldn't just order armed Military guards to wonder the streets and keep people home.

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cjsdowg
03/31/21 5:22:39 PM
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Republicans were literally wanting Biden to make it harder for people to get stuff. Saying it was socialism for the rich. HE did that, they still didn't vote for the Bill and you are blaming Biden for doing what the Republicans wanted.

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Smackems
03/31/21 5:23:08 PM
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Democrats can never do wrong tc

Do you need to be reeducated

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Tyranthraxus
03/31/21 5:24:03 PM
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Democrats created COVID: the topic

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Dark_SilverX
03/31/21 5:24:31 PM
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HiddenRoar
03/31/21 5:25:15 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Republicans were literally wanting Biden to make it harder for people to get stuff. Saying it was socialism for the rich. HE did that, they still didn't vote for the Bill and you are blaming Biden for doing what the Republicans wanted.

You seem to be confused, since the PPP isn't related to the American Rescue Plan.

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voldothegr8
03/31/21 5:25:37 PM
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Biden's America
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Darker Cheshire
03/31/21 5:27:35 PM
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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Trump couldn't just order armed Military guards to wonder the streets and keep people home.
No, but he could have taken it seriously, not just do the opposite of what his experts recommended because it didn't fluff or fellate his ego. He could have not politicized a pandemic resulting in his base not taking it seriously, or worse, becoming conspiratorial about it.

Biden has been president for all of two months. If his policy somehow resulted in this business shutting down, it doesn't sound like they were in a very sustainable position since the beginning of the pandemic.

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BlockAddition
03/31/21 5:27:57 PM
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Biden strikes again

Regretting your vote yet?

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Doom_Art
03/31/21 5:28:41 PM
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God I love it lol

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PrettyBoyFloyd
03/31/21 5:35:24 PM
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Darker Cheshire posted...
No, but he could have taken it seriously, not just do the opposite of what his experts recommended because it didn't fluff or fellate his ego. He could have not politicized a pandemic resulting in his base not taking it seriously, or worse, becoming conspiratorial about it.

Biden has been president for all of two months. If his policy somehow resulted in this business shutting down, it doesn't sound like they were in a very sustainable position since the beginning of the pandemic.

Trump would just then get accused of doing it to present a false image of himself.

Like "Trump's just saying that just to look good".

Anyway Trump knew that people were and are gonna do what the fuck ever and not care about some virus or forever lock down.


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HiddenRoar
03/31/21 5:42:04 PM
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Darker Cheshire posted...


Biden has been president for all of two months. If his policy somehow resulted in this business shutting down, it doesn't sound like they were in a very sustainable position since the beginning of the pandemic.

Loves main revenue came from hotels, restaurants, and schools.
They weren't rolling in money like Amazon, but they weren't exactly on the brink of bankruptcy seeing that it's a 170 year old bakery
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Doom_Art
03/31/21 5:43:42 PM
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HiddenRoar posted...
Loves main revenue came from hotels, restaurants, and schools.
And...?

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HiddenRoar
03/31/21 5:45:30 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
And...?

Guess what a lockdown proclamation does.
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Darker Cheshire
03/31/21 5:47:18 PM
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HiddenRoar posted...
Loves main revenue came from hotels, restaurants, and schools.
They weren't rolling in money like Amazon, but they weren't exactly on the brink of bankruptcy seeing that it's a 170 year old bakery

Sounds like they were the victim of a pandemic impacting tourism and not a political party.
That's definitely sad and disappointing...

"The reality is that Hawaiis oldest and largest commercial bakery was already in decline before the pandemic hit a year ago.
Loves was the dominant commercial bakery in Hawaii for generations, Choi said. But it was losing sales due to increased competition and inefficiencies at its plant, which had some antiquated equipment.

Oh.

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Doom_Art
03/31/21 5:49:20 PM
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HiddenRoar posted...
Guess what a lockdown proclamation does.
What's your alternative suggestion?

Because doing nothing isn't an option, sorry to say. I know it's what conservatives do best though lol

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Kloe_Rinz
03/31/21 5:49:21 PM
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this is attributed to America in general who refused to perform a short lockdown at all and caused covid to spread as much as it has. If you people locked down and got covid under control early last year this wouldnt have happened. By encouraging the spread of this virus America as dealt itself a massive blow to its own economy.
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I Like Toast
03/31/21 5:52:09 PM
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>blatant bait
mods: just mark it

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MabusIncarnate
03/31/21 5:57:34 PM
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Man, nothing should have been done from the start so we could have over a million dead by now but a bakery gets to stay open. Thanks Biden! Hundreds of thousands of lives are worth less than a bakery Sleepy Joe!

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HiddenRoar
03/31/21 5:58:59 PM
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Darker Cheshire posted...


Sounds like they were the victim of a pandemic impacting tourism and not a political party.

*Looks at Florida*
Surely, no one wants to be traveling and vacationing, huh.

As for "decline", you need to look up its history to see why that line means little.
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Doom_Art
03/31/21 6:02:57 PM
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I like how TC ignored my question lol

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HiddenRoar
03/31/21 6:04:14 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
I like how TC ignored my question lol

I didn't wanted to double post or edit,

Sweden says hi.
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Tyranthraxus
03/31/21 6:08:40 PM
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HiddenRoar posted...
I didn't wanted to double post or edit,

Sweden says hi.
Lmao please tell me you're not using Sweden as an example of a proper handling of the pandemic

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TheOtherMike
03/31/21 6:11:14 PM
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HiddenRoar posted...
Long enough to prevent Loves from obtaining the funds needed to pay rent.

Answer the question directly. How long was that particular restriction?

HiddenRoar posted...
https://governor.hawaii.gov/emergency-proclamations/page/3/

Again, answer the question.
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Doom_Art
03/31/21 6:14:38 PM
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HiddenRoar posted...
Sweden says hi.
What else does it say, lol

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MabusIncarnate
03/31/21 6:15:35 PM
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HiddenRoar posted...
I didn't wanted to double post or edit,

Sweden says hi.
Oh, this Sweden? The Sweden where disease experts declared their no-lockdown approach a complete failure? So by your statement, the US would be closer to 1.5 million deaths right now if no lockdowns happened. Great example.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/sweden-avoided-covid-19-lockdown-strategy-worked/story?id=76047258

Denmark, Norway and Finland, with a combined population of around 16.75 million, have recorded 4,331 deaths attributed to coronavirus as of Thursday (259 per million). All three enforced lockdowns early on in the pandemic. Sweden, by contrast, has registered 12,798 deaths, and possesses a population 10.2 million, meaning it has a far higher death rate than its immediate neighbors (1,255 per million)

For critics of the light touch approach, such as Stefan Hanson, a Swedish infectious diseases expert, such a high death rate is evidence of the failure of an overall strategy.

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lightwarrior78
03/31/21 6:34:00 PM
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Why do people read this and act like if they saw a drowning man they'd gloat about something while the man drowns? Leftist empathy that puts "I told you sos" above all else at its finest.

Yeah, Trump could have done better. So could people that after 9 months still can't understand people that don't wear masks won't via insulting them, that the longer the inital lockdown went beyond 2 weeks to slow the spread, the more economic concerns needed to be addressed, and thought protesting wouldn't be seens as breaking your own rules.

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