Board 8 > Correct the Academy's choices: what should actually be nominated for the Oscars?

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Oscar nominations finally went up this morning, so it's time to follow the annual tradition of correcting their picks! I'll post here what the Academy's actual picks were, so just replace them with whatever you think they should be (including what you think should win of the nominees). Up to 9 picks for Best Picture and up to 5 for every other award. Keep in mind, the timeline is different this year. Anything from Jan. 2020 until the end of Feb. 2021 is eligible.

Best Picture

• The Father
• Judas and the Black Messiah
• Mank
• Minari
• Nomadland
• Promising Young Woman
• Sound of Metal
• The Trial of the Chicago 7

Best Director

• Lee Isaac Chung (Minari)
• Emerald Fennell (Promising Young Woman)
• David Fincher (Mank)
• Thomas Vinterberg (Another Round)
• Chloe Zhao (Nomadland)

Best Actor

• Riz Ahmed as Ruben Stone (Sound of Metal)
• Chadwick Boseman as Levee Green (Ma Rainey's Black Bottom)
• Anthony Hopkins as Anthony (The Father)
• Gary Oldman as Herman Mankiewicz (Mank)
• Steven Yeun as Jacob Yi (Minari)

Best Actress

• Viola Davis as Ma Rainey (Ma Rainey's Black Bottom)
• Andra Day as Billie Holiday (The United States vs. Billie Holiday)
• Vanessa Kirby as Martha Weiss (Pieces of a Woman)
• Frances McDormand as Fern (Nomadland)
• Carey Mulligan as Cassie Thomas (Promising Young Woman)

Best Supporting Actor

• Sacha Baron Cohen as Abbie Hoffman (The Trial of the Chicago 7)
• Daniel Kaluuya as Fred Hampton (Judas and the Black Messiah)
• Leslie Odom Jr. as Sam Cooke (One Night in Miami)
• Paul Raci as Joe (Sound of Metal)
• Lakeith Stanfield as William O'Neal (Judas and the Black Messiah)

Best Supporting Actress

• Maria Bakalova as Tutar Sagdiyev (Borat Subsequent Moviefilm)
• Glenn Close as Bonnie "Mamaw" Vance (Hillbilly Elegy)
• Olivia Colman as Anne (The Father)
• Amanda Seyfried as Marion Davies (Mank)
• Youn Yuh-jung as Soon-ja (Minari)

Best Animated Film

• Onward
• Over the Moon
• A Shaun the Sheep Movie: Farmageddon
• Soul
• Wolkwalkers

Best Original Score

• Da 5 Bloods
• Mank
• Emile Mosseri
• News of the World
• Soul

Best Visual Effects

• Love and Monsters
• The Midnight Sky
• Mulan
• The One and Only Ivan
• Tenet

tagging people who participated last year, but anyone is free to:
@Snake5555555555
@CasanovaZelos
@jcgamer107

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I have literally never heard of a single best picture nom other than Promising Young Woman.

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I audibly WTFed at Promising Young Woman being nominated for BP.

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Nothing should have been nominated because the entire awards industry shouldn't exist.
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Da 5 Bloods got robbed, put it in Best Picture along with Delroy Lindo and Chadwick Boseman for Actor and Supporting Actor.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

I have literally never heard of a single best picture nom other than Promising Young Woman.

You've not heard of Mank (new David Fincher movie) or The Trial of the Chicago 7 (new Aaron Sorkin Movie)? They're definitely the two heavy hitters in terms of mainstream appeal. They're both on Netflix so check them out I suppose, the latter is really good. With that said, it's a weird list. Not bad, but weird. No Ma Rainey is a surprise and I see no reason why Soul isn't Best Picture worthy. But on the other hand, Sound of Metal and Minari are pleasant surprises.

Also, very strong Animated category this year. I had forgot that Shaun the Sheep was eligible as that came out in 2019 for me, but that's a great film, Wolfwalkers is much deserved (and Cartoon Saloon keeps its perfect record) and Soul is going to win which I can't complain about too much.

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Snake5555555555 posted...

I audibly WTFed at Promising Young Woman being nominated for BP.

It probably was the best picture of the year

But 2020 was literally the worst year in the history of the Academy Awards, so I can't even be mad at the list

Sonic should have been nominated (and win) in every category

I really liked Sound of Metal so Im glad it got a lot of love this year

Minari definitely sounds like its up my alley but is it worth the twenty bucks for VOD

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Lightning Strikes posted...

The Trial of the Chicago 7 (new Aaron Sorkin Movie)?

Actually, totally forgot for a sec but yes I had heard of this one. Waypoints spent almost an entire podcast talking about how bad it was.

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You say that, but I listened to that whole podcast and it is very clear that they loved it as much as they hated it. Aaron Sorkin is 100% Rob and Gita's schoolyard crush that they are mean to to show how much they like him.

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GameStonk posted...

It probably was the best picture of the year

But 2020 was literally the worst year in the history of the Academy Awards, so I can't even be mad at the list

It was a good movie but a little poorly written in the back half if you ask me. There quite a few better horror/thrillers to choose from: I'm Thinking of Ending Things or The Invisible Man if wanted something with the same subject matter.

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Seen all the Best Picture nominees except Minari and The Father. Minari was a sure thing, but I don't know why The Father is nominated for everything. I've also got Ma Raini and One Night in Miami on my must-watch list

Surprised First Cow didn't really get anything; I had heard that would be a frontrunner

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GameStonk posted...

But 2020 was literally the worst year in the history of the Academy Awards, so I can't even be mad at the list

Agree with this sentiment. This is the first year that I really can't be bothered to be upset with any misses from the Academy.

I don't even think I could build a decent top ten for the year.

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Johnbobb posted...

Surprised First Cow didn't really get anything; I had heard that would be a frontrunner

Release was too long ago - hype just kinda faded over time. A24 probably also just opted to campaign solely for Minari.

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Man I can only imagine how low the ratings are going to be this year when the most mainstream nominee is fucking Mank lol

*My choices in italics*

Best Picture

• Da 5 Bloods
• I'm Thinking of Endings Things*
• Judas and the Black Messiah
• Palm Springs
• The Personal History of David Copperfield
• Soul
• Sound of Metal
• The Trial of the Chicago 7
• Wolfwalkers

Best Director

• Pete Docter (Soul)
• Charlie Kaufman (I'm Thinking of Ending Things)*
• Shaka King (Judas and the Black Messiah)
• Spike Lee (Da 5 Bloods)
• Steve McQueen (Small Axe: Lover's Rock)

Best Actor

• Riz Ahmed as Ruben Stone (Sound of Metal)*
• Chadwick Boseman as Levee Green (Ma Rainey's Black Bottom)
• Delroy Lindo as Paul (Da 5 Bloods)
• Jesse Plemmons as Jake (I'm Thinking of Ending Things)
• Lakeith Stanfield as William O'Neal (Judas and the Black Messiah)

Best Actress

• Jessie Buckley as Young Woman (I'm Thinking of Ending Things)*
• Viola Davis as Ma Rainey (Ma Rainey's Black Bottom)
• Riley Keough as Grace (The Lodge)
• Vanessa Kirby as Martha Weiss (Pieces of a Woman)
• Frances McDormand as Fern (Nomadland)

Best Supporting Actor

• Sacha Baron Cohen as Abbie Hoffman (The Trial of the Chicago 7)
• Chadwick Boseman as Stormin' Norman (Da 5 Bloods)
• Daniel Kaluuya as Fred Hampton (Judas and the Black Messiah)*
• Leslie Odom Jr. as Sam Cooke (One Night in Miami)
• David Thewlis as Father (I'm Thinking of Ending Things)

Best Supporting Actress

• Maria Bakalova as Tutar Sagdiyev (Borat Subsequent Moviefilm)*
• Ellen Burstyn as Elizabeth Weiss (Pieces of a Woman)
• Olivia Cooke as Lou Berger (Sound of Metal)
• Cristin Milioti as Sarah (Palm Springs)
• Talia Ryder as Skylar (Never Rarely Sometimes Always)

Best Animated Film

• A Whisker Away
• Onward
• Over the Moon
• Soul*
• Wolkwalkers

Best Original Score

• Da 5 Bloods
• I'm Thinking of Ending Things
• Mank
• Soul*
• Sound of Metal

Best Visual Effects

• Color Out of Space*
• Love and Monsters
• The New Mutants
• Tenet
• Wonder Woman '84

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only snubs I'm really upset about are I'm Thinking of Ending Things and Da 5 Bloods

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Hm honestly I didnt like Im thinking of Ending Things that much but I wonder if watching it on a replay when you know the twist makes it better, as its a pretty good twist

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LiquidOshawott posted...

Hm honestly I didnt like Im thinking of Ending Things that much but I wonder if watching it on a replay when you know the twist makes it better, as its a pretty good twist

It was my favorite film of the year and it wasn't close. One of my favorite directors combined with some of the best actors of today, magical surrealism, and a deeply dark, menacing tone and it was already guaranteed to be a hit with me, but even then it still exceeded my expectations

funny enough almost the exact same thing can be said for The Lighthouse the year before, which also got completely snubbed

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Saint Maud

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The Lighthouse didnt get completely snubbed, it got a cinematography nomination.

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Lightning Strikes posted...

The Lighthouse didnt get completely snubbed, it got a cinematography nomination.

yeah - Midsommar got completely snubbed. then they did a huge parody of it at the beginning lol, "thanks".

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I've only seen the ones available on streaming but this seems like the least egregious list they've done in ages. But then there were barely any movies to choose from.

I liked I'm Thinking of Ending Things but there was no way the Academy would go for something like that, they don't like Kaufman when he gets too weird. At least Sorkin didn't get a Director nod.


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Everyone in this topic should watch Never Rarely Sometimes Always.

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MetalmindStats posted...

Everyone in this topic should watch Never Rarely Sometimes Always.

Nah, it's really uninteresting

MetalmindStats posted...

Everyone in this topic should watch Never Rarely Sometimes Always.

I saw it. It's definitely good, and I'm honestly surprised it didn't get nominations, but I also wasn't blown away.

Main two performances are the best part but Best Actress is a bit stacked

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Having just seen "Minari," I would like to make a "No Guts, No Glory" prediction for Youn Yuh-jung in Supporting Actress. In a year where the category is very split, and where the top two contenders are so divisive (Close and Bakalova), I could see her slipping through for a win. It's a funny, showy, performance in a movie that a lot Academy voters are going to be watching.

Years ago, I remember someone predicted Laura Linney's surprise nom for "The Savages" by saying "I can't imagine that someone would watch the movie and not nominate her." I don't remember anything about Laura Linney in that movie, so I'm not sure I agree with that particular sentiment, but it reflects how I feel about Youn Yuh-jung. I find it hard to believe that voters would watch the movie and not want to vote for her, especially in a weak year, when they might have trouble mustering up enthusiasm elsewhere.

Edit: Damn, I just checked the odds, and apparently she actually is the favorite, lol.

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Wow I've actually never heard of any of these live action films. Insane

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I think I'm largely fine with most of the nominations this year? Another Round getting a best picture nomination would have been nice, but this is a surprisingly strong set considering the year. First Cow probably deserved some attention but it's also a film I wouldn't expect to be there (and I still need to see it).

The only huge and unexpected snub to me is Dick Johnson Is Dead in the documentary category. An absolutely stunning film, but as always, the people deciding that category have gone out of their way to exclude what should have been the obvious frontrunner. This happened the last two years as well with the Apollo and Mr. Rogers docs.

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CasanovaZelos posted...

I think I'm largely fine with most of the nominations this year? Another Round getting a best picture nomination would have been nice, but this is a surprisingly strong set considering the year. First Cow probably deserved some attention but it's also a film I wouldn't expect to be there (and I still need to see it).

The only huge and unexpected snub to me is Dick Johnson Is Dead in the documentary category. An absolutely stunning film, but as always, the people deciding that category have gone out of their way to exclude what should have been the obvious frontrunner. This happened the last two years as well with the Apollo and Mr. Rogers docs.

And don't forget the most egregious snub of all time: Hoop Dreams.