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Feline_Heart
02/26/21 10:38:48 AM
#102:


DeadBankerDream posted...
For the record, I've never asked for an open world pokemon game. That sounds like ass.
Isn't every mainline pokemon game open world?

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DeadBankerDream
02/26/21 10:39:39 AM
#103:


They're more Metroidvania.

I'm bad at genres, don't punch me.
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3PiesAndAFork
02/26/21 10:41:01 AM
#104:


Why those three particular starters though? That'd be interesting to find out, but honestly makes the choice the easiest one ever. Cyndaquil FTW.

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MrMallard
02/26/21 10:41:21 AM
#105:


Each Pokemon game is open world in the same way that early Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest and Phantasy Star games were open world. So in short, they're JRPGs.

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AtelierRyza3462
02/26/21 10:41:23 AM
#106:


Sinnoh confirmed?
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DeadBankerDream
02/26/21 10:42:19 AM
#107:


3PiesAndAFork posted...
Why those three particular starters though? That'd be interesting to find out, but honestly makes the choice the easiest one ever. Cyndaquil FTW.

Agreed. Imagine picking anything other than Rowlet, lmao.
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LightHawKnight
02/26/21 10:43:13 AM
#108:


Feline_Heart posted...
Isn't every mainline pokemon game open world?

No. Open world typically means you can do "dungeons" or whatever in any order you want. Pokemon games are pretty linear. Some games give you a bit of options, but thats pretty rare.

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CM_Ponch
02/26/21 10:43:43 AM
#109:


I can't get over how ugly the DP remakes look

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tremain07
02/26/21 10:46:56 AM
#110:


CM_Ponch posted...
I can't get over how ugly the DP remakes look
Perhaps you can realize that they're one for one remakes therefore all the Platinum content and adding current mons to that game like the previous 3 remakes did isn't happening here. No distortion world here.

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ROOTFayth
02/26/21 10:47:12 AM
#111:


CM_Ponch posted...
I can't get over how ugly the DP remakes look
kinda looks like links awakening, i like it
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CM_Ponch
02/26/21 10:47:56 AM
#112:


tremain07 posted...
Perhaps you can realize that they're one for one remakes therefore all the Platinum content and adding current mons to that game like the previous 3 remakes did isn't happening here. No distortion world here.
I feel like they're not even going to have post Gen 5 pokemon

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CRON
02/26/21 10:49:12 AM
#113:


DeadBankerDream posted...
For the record, I've never asked for an open world pokemon game. That sounds like ass.
The early 90s JRPG formula needed to change a decade ago.

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LightHawKnight
02/26/21 10:50:14 AM
#114:


CRON posted...
The early 90s JRPG formula needed to change a decade ago.

No. Play something else if you dont like it.

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CRON
02/26/21 10:51:24 AM
#115:


LightHawKnight posted...
No. Play something else if you dont like it.
What is it with Pokemon fans and being so defensive of its gameplay? JRPG fans will defend combat systems that consist of cycling through menus and grinding like it's their children.

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ZMythos
02/26/21 10:52:51 AM
#116:


For a switch title that art style is terrible for the remakes.

The 3ds was way better

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LostForest
02/26/21 10:53:55 AM
#118:


CRON posted...
What is it with Pokemon fans and being so defensive of its gameplay? JRPG fans will defend combat systems that consist of cycling through menus and grinding like it's their children.

Because that's what makes the genre. Again, if it's not your thing, cool. But it's like saying "Ya know, shooters have too many guns in them, we should change that." If you don't like shooting, you don't play shooters lol.

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CRON
02/26/21 10:54:15 AM
#119:


M_Live posted...
I really don't get the hype for the Sinnoh remakes as I have no personal attachment to those games :/
Gen 4 is to zoomers as Gen 1/2 is to millennials. It's what they grew up with.

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PokemonExpert44
02/26/21 10:54:21 AM
#120:


M_Live posted...
I really don't get the hype for the Sinnoh remakes as I have no personal attachment to those games :/

Pokemon Legends looks SICK though so that got me hype. I want a Pokken 2 though :(
There's already a pokken 2.

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teep_
02/26/21 10:54:30 AM
#121:


I spent over 300 hours on my diamond save file

Time to buy a Switch!
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CRON
02/26/21 10:54:57 AM
#122:


LostForest posted...
Because that's what makes the genre. Again, if it's not your thing, cool. But it's like saying "Ya know, shooters have too many guns in them, we should change that." If you don't like shooting, you don't play shooters lol.
You can make a JRPG without the outdated combat systems. Even slight gimmicky variations add a lot to them.

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wackyteen
02/26/21 10:55:00 AM
#123:


ZMythos posted...
For a switch title that art style is terrible for the remakes.

The 3ds was way better
knowing Nintendo, it probably started out as a 3DS title

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LightHawKnight
02/26/21 10:55:58 AM
#124:


CRON posted...
What is it with Pokemon fans and being so defensive of its gameplay? JRPG fans will defend combat systems that consist of cycling through menus and grinding like it's their children.

Just cause you dont like something, doesnt mean other people hate it as well. Stop ruining things for other people just cause you dont like it.

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MrMallard
02/26/21 10:56:13 AM
#125:


On one hand, mobile devs graduating onto handheld-quality games is a cool thing to see. If I'm being optimistic, this could at least be a neat experiment.

On the other hand, the remake's art style reminds me of phone games in a bad way. It doesn't look like half-assed dogshit, sure, but I feel like you can see the seams of the models in a similar way that most phone game models feel. It's coming off as similarly underbaked to me.

The remakes need some polish. I think there are some corners they need to smooth out, and I think they need to work on textures. The player characters look shiny and the in-battle environments look kinda bad. If they can improve the model textures and smooth out the corners and peaks in the battle environments, I could get on board with it.

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SquirtleSkwad
02/26/21 10:57:31 AM
#126:


God that video made me tear up a bit. It's so wild to me that I was there from the start of it all, played every media across all platforms, and now there are kids today who will never get that experience, but are still fans.

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PokemonExpert44
02/26/21 10:59:29 AM
#128:


M_Live posted...
The re-release on Switch wasn't a part 2, just a deluxe version @PokemonExpert44
Pokken switch is the 2nd pokken game.

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MrMallard
02/26/21 10:59:43 AM
#129:


wackyteen posted...
knowing Nintendo, it probably started out as a 3DS title
People have been clamoring for remakes since the 3DS. It wouldn't surprise me if these remakes started life on the 3DS because of that demand.

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Ushiromiya
02/26/21 11:01:19 AM
#130:


PokemonExpert44 posted...
Pokken switch is the 2nd pokken game.
Why are you being like this?

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LostForest
02/26/21 11:01:54 AM
#131:


CRON posted...
You can make a JRPG without the outdated combat systems. Even slight gimmicky variations add a lot to them.

They do just that. Pokemon adds gimmicks like megas, z-moves, and dynamax. Final Fantasy had limit break. DQ11 introduced team-up pep attacks.

Again, if you don't like slow, menu-based RPGs, don't play JRPGs.

Come to think of it, if you don't like Pokemon, why are you even posting in this topic? Lol.

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CRON
02/26/21 11:02:31 AM
#132:


LostForest posted...
They do just that. Pokemon adds gimmicks like megas, z-moves, and dynamax. Final Fantasy had limit break. DQ11 introduced team-up pep attacks.

Again, if you don't like slow, menu-based RPGs, don't play JRPGs.

Come to think of it, if you don't like Pokemon, why are you even posting in this topic? Lol.
I like Pokemon, aside from the grindy aspects. I think I'm in the minority who likes Exp share.

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PokemonExpert44
02/26/21 11:03:18 AM
#133:


Ushiromiya posted...
Why are you being like this?
Like what?

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AlisLandale
02/26/21 11:07:32 AM
#134:


On one hand, the fact that DP look like the exact same game as the DS titles, is embarrassing and shit. Weve come from HGSS to this. Just gonna hold onto my Platinum cartridge. >_>

on the other hand, Legend of Arceus looks neat and Ill be keeping an eye on that one.

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Alteres
02/26/21 11:32:49 AM
#135:


The remakes sadly looked like complete ass.

Arceus actually looks like it might be pretty cool though.

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SwayM
02/26/21 11:41:27 AM
#136:


This franchise has only made more money than literally every other entertainment property on the planet.

But devs cant make an open world game without a shit ass frame rate. Apparently theres no towns?

Oh boy.

I hope it does sell well. In 25 years we may finally get the Pokmon game we deserve. Theyre clearly that far behind.

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Blue_Inigo
02/26/21 11:46:07 AM
#137:


You guys are high saying the remake looks bad. They decided to keep the OG's chibi look on the overworld but in battle it looks like current day Pokemon. That's a neat way to keep the spirit of the old games

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Alteres
02/26/21 11:48:23 AM
#138:


Blue_Inigo posted...
You guys are high saying the remake looks bad. They decided to keep the OG's chibi look on the overworld but in battle it looks like current day Pokemon. That's a neat way to keep the spirit of the old games
It really doesnt though, the towns and battles have a cheap plasticey mobile look to them.

Its not just the chibi style.

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Feline_Heart
02/26/21 11:50:17 AM
#139:


Blue_Inigo posted...
You guys are high saying the remake looks bad. They decided to keep the OG's chibi look on the overworld but in battle it looks like current day Pokemon. That's a neat way to keep the spirit of the old games
Yup

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CM_Ponch
02/26/21 11:56:52 AM
#140:


Blue_Inigo posted...
You guys are high saying the remake looks bad. They decided to keep the OG's chibi look on the overworld but in battle it looks like current day Pokemon. That's a neat way to keep the spirit of the old games
They should have gone with ORAS style models then. This is Link's Awakening without the effort

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Blue_Inigo
02/26/21 11:57:42 AM
#141:


CM_Ponch posted...
They should have gone with ORAS style models then. This is Link's Awakening without the effort
Without effort? Lol Pokemon fans really are the worst.

This game is colorful as fuck. It looks good

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CM_Ponch
02/26/21 11:58:48 AM
#142:


Blue_Inigo posted...
Without effort? Lol Pokemon fans really are the worst.

This game is colorful as fuck. It looks good
They have giant deformed hands and oval heads. The game looks worse than Platinum did.

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KlRBEH
02/26/21 11:59:52 AM
#143:


You have to give them some credit. The overworld looks great, the models do look a bit odd though.

Hopefully they fix those up

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CM_Ponch
02/26/21 12:00:15 PM
#144:




They are literally remaking Sinnoh for Arceus, there is zero excuse for this.

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PokemonExpert44
02/26/21 12:00:32 PM
#145:


CM_Ponch posted...
They have giant deformed hands and oval heads. The game looks worse than Platinum did.
Lol ok

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KlRBEH
02/26/21 12:02:41 PM
#147:


But I will say that as of right now ORAS do look visually better than the Gen 4 remakes, which is a shame because that's a 3DS game

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CM_Ponch
02/26/21 12:06:11 PM
#149:


PokemonExpert44 posted...
Lol ok
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LostForest
02/26/21 12:07:29 PM
#151:


I don't understand what's so hard to grasp about this. You were either going to get a really high quality, well done Gen 4 remake and that's it, or something big and brand new from the franchise, with the remakes being an afterthought.

So many people spent the last three years bitching about how TPC needs to do with Pokemon what Nintendo did with Zelda/BotW, and they're doing that. DP remakes are a bonus.

The criticism just doesn't make sense.

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Blue_Inigo
02/26/21 12:08:17 PM
#152:


KlRBEH posted...
But I will say that as of right now ORAS do look visually better than the Gen 4 remakes, which is a shame because that's a 3DS game
....Do you remember how those games looked? Because they really don't

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