Poll of the Day > Mom of DC Cop says she DOESN'T believe Trump Supporters KILLED her Son!!!

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Full Throttle
02/22/21 6:29:50 PM
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Do you think this family has jumped on the QAnon conspiracy train just to defend Trump and his supporters?


Dailymail has received an exclusive interview with 74 y/o Gladys Sicknick, the mother of Capitol Police Officer, 42 y/o Brian Sicknick who was killed in the January 6 insurrection after a Trump Supporter him over the head with a fire extinguisher..but Glady DOESN'T believe Trump Supportes were responsible for it and claims her son died of a STROKE instead!!.

Yet after more than 1 month since his death, she admitted that they re stil in the dark as to what caused the episode and says her son was not hit over the head with a fire extinguisher but rather died of a stroke

She said "He wasn't hit in the head no. We think he had a stroke, but we don't know anything for sure. We'd love to know what happened"

Democrats cited the incident and the death of officer Sicknick being hit over the head as his death reported of him passing away due to sustained injury while on duty after responding ot the January 6th, insurrection when he was injured while protecting the capitol.

The NYT reported a day later that he was hit over the head by pro-trump supporters after they overpowered him and struck him with a fire extinguisher and left him with a blood gash on his head where he was then rushed to hospital

Ken, his brother spoke to ProPublica and said his brother was in good spirits and wasn't rushed to hospital but rather texted them from the department and said he was only pepper sprayed but was otherwise fine

On January 8th, his father, 81 y/o Charles rushed to DC when they were told their son was in the hospital with a blood clot in his bran and suffered a stroke as he was kept alive with a ventilator but died on their way there

House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi called for the perpetrators to be brought to justice as his family said his death was POLITICIZED and seized on it as a way to savage the pro-trump protesters which she SUPPORTED

Last Week, the NYT quietly rowed back first initial reports of the fire extinguisher attack as his questions over his death are still pending and the FBI is struggling to put together a murder case without more information leading ot arrests as it still is being treated as a homicide

The mother does not deny that they were a pro-trump family as Brian has wanted to be an officer his whole life and joined the National Guard as a means to that end. She only believes that it is pre-mature to blame law abiding protesters for his death and that Democrat Impeachment Managers rushed to blame the protesters and the ex-president.

Do you think this mother has jumped on the QAnon conspiracy theory train just to defend those trump supporters?

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SKARDAVNELNATE
02/22/21 8:29:13 PM
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Like most people, I doubt they've heard of QAnon.

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Soup_or_Science
02/22/21 8:42:32 PM
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insert struck/stroke joke here

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Zeus
02/22/21 8:44:44 PM
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Full Throttle posted...
Last Week, the NYT quietly rowed back first initial reports of the fire extinguisher attack as his questions over his death are still pending and the FBI is struggling to put together a murder case without more information leading ot arrests as it still is being treated as a homicide

You mean the NYT ran a completely unverified story? I'm shocked. Shocked! Well, not that shocked.

Full Throttle posted...


Do you think this mother has jumped on the QAnon conspiracy theory train just to defend those trump supporters?

lolwut?

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Like most people, I doubt they've heard of QAnon.

This. The media tries to hype them up like crazy, but they're about as fringe as you can get. Pretty much anybody who's even heard about it has only done so through heavy media coverage trying to convince us that it's a major thing, or from the Pizzagate thing (which I think was Qanon? idk, could have been something else)


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OhhhJa
02/22/21 10:07:56 PM
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NYT quietly backed off this story. Did NYT jump on the qanon train as well?!

So with this being more or less debunked now, the only evidence of any real violence at the capitol is the Ashley Babbit lady killed by whoever that (still unnamed) gunman was. Funny... we immediately knew the cop that killed George Floyd, James Blake, Breonna Taylor. White trump supporter gets shot execution style... crickets
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ReturnOfFa
02/22/21 10:53:47 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
NYT quietly backed off this story. Did NYT jump on the qanon train as well?!

So with this being more or less debunked now, the only evidence of any real violence at the capitol is the Ashley Babbit lady killed by whoever that (still unnamed) gunman was. Funny... we immediately knew the cop that killed George Floyd, James Blake, Breonna Taylor. White trump supporter gets shot execution style... crickets
I'd never want to justify her death, because it was a tragedy but...she was literally slamming against the doors that were very visibly being guarded at gunpoint, and was one of the first to breach it.

idk seems like a pretty outrageous thing to do in America. that's how people get shot all the time. a lot of the people you compared this situation to weren't actively slamming their body weight against the doors of the entrance to the lobby of the House Floor.

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ReturnOfFa
02/22/21 10:55:26 PM
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as for people listening to QAnon. They aren't actively on 8kun. But QAnon ideas get shared via stupid memes that end up disseminating all over Facebook, shared by influencers who claim to be anti-establishment, but actively uphold it.

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Zeus
02/22/21 11:10:50 PM
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I think the complaint was more a matter that the officer's name is STILL being withheld whereas most high-profile shootings that name is out there pretty quickly, even in situations where the officer's life was potentially put in danger by the disclosure. (And considering the officers who were executed in protest of an event, it was a pretty considerable danger at times.)


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BlackScythe0
02/22/21 11:36:30 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Like most people, I doubt they've heard of QAnon.

You know what, that is entirely possible. They may have never heard of Qanon, but they believe the qanon conspiracies so it's irrelevant if they know the source.
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DANTE20XX
02/22/21 11:38:25 PM
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Full Throttle posted...
The NYT reported a day later that he was hit over the head by pro-trump supporters after they overpowered him and struck him with a fire extinguisher and left him with a blood gash on his head where he was then rushed to hospital

Ken, his brother spoke to ProPublica and said his brother was in good spirits and wasn't rushed to hospital but rather texted them from the department and said he was only pepper sprayed but was otherwise fine
This is literally all you need to know about the story. Just reading this alone is enough for anyone to laugh at anything NYT says in the future. What a joke they are.

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adjl
02/22/21 11:52:39 PM
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Oh look, the posters that have been desperately trying to deny that anything of consequence happened at the Capitol are eagerly latching on to any report that downplays what happened at the Capitol. I am such surprise.

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Monopoman
02/23/21 12:05:16 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
You know what, that is entirely possible. They may have never heard of Qanon, but they believe the qanon conspiracies so it's irrelevant if they know the source.

Yep this is like saying if someone thinks like the Nazi's, but never heard of them then it's not a huge deal. It's also pretty random to have the same exact thought process as Qanon without ever knowing about them. It would be about as likely as someone able to do calculus without ever taking a calculus class or reading a calculus book.
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OhhhJa
02/23/21 12:18:37 AM
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adjl posted...
Oh look, the posters that have been desperately trying to deny that anything of consequence happened at the Capitol are eagerly latching on to any report that downplays what happened at the Capitol. I am such surprise.
Because other than Ashley Babbitt being shot... nobody was murdered. One guy died of a stroke. 2 from heart attacks. One from an undisclosed medical emergency. Oh and two cops apparently committed suicide a few days after (which is very strange imo). Yet the media keeps calling it "the deadly riot." Oooooh so spooky. This is the same media that has been calling the leftist riots responsible for dozens of deaths "mostly peaceful protests" the past year.

And I gotta love the pearl clutching lefties being like "MAH CAPITOL MAH SENATORS" whom... let's be honest... were never in any danger. You didn't give a shit when your own communities and local businesses were getting torched. You fake leftists (state-ists) care more about your senators who don't two fucks about you than you do your own neighbors
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papercup
02/23/21 12:33:50 AM
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Anyone who says it wasn't Trumpzis that attacked the Capitol are liars and hate America.

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OhhhJa
02/23/21 12:40:55 AM
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papercup posted...
Anyone who says it wasn't Trumpzis that attacked the Capitol are liars and hate America.
Who here said it wasn't trump supporters?

But also, practicing civil disobedience against your government doesn't equate to hating your country. Thats absurd. Thats nationalist talk tbh
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papercup
02/23/21 12:47:11 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
Who here said it wasn't trump supporters?

But also, practicing civil disobedience against your government doesn't equate to hating your country. Thats absurd. Thats nationalist talk tbh
Trying to violently overthrow the government to install a fascist dictator is not civil disobedience.

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OhhhJa
02/23/21 12:54:02 AM
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papercup posted...
fascist dictator
You mean the fascist dictator that was voted out and told everyone to stand down as he left for Florida? Lol

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BlackScythe0
02/23/21 12:57:10 AM
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Monopoman posted...
Yep this is like saying if someone thinks like the Nazi's, but never heard of them then it's not a huge deal. It's also pretty random to have the same exact thought process as Qanon without ever knowing about them. It would be about as likely as someone able to do calculus without ever taking a calculus class or reading a calculus book.

It's actually not that weird. Her age might make it somewhat questionable but I personally have a lot of relatives around 60-70 on facebook who post conspiracy stuff that doesn't ever mention qanon by name. I believe that even if they had heard the word "qanon" in passing they wouldn't remember it as it didn't seem relevant to them. They just believe the conspiracy nonsense and you can't find a mid point to meet them at.
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adjl
02/23/21 11:00:34 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
Because other than Ashley Babbitt being shot... nobody was murdered. One guy died of a stroke. 2 from heart attacks. One from an undisclosed medical emergency. Oh and two cops apparently committed suicide a few days after (which is very strange imo). Yet the media keeps calling it "the deadly riot." Oooooh so spooky. This is the same media that has been calling the leftist riots responsible for dozens of deaths "mostly peaceful protests" the past year.

And I gotta love the pearl clutching lefties being like "MAH CAPITOL MAH SENATORS" whom... let's be honest... were never in any danger. You didn't give a shit when your own communities and local businesses were getting torched. You fake leftists (state-ists) care more about your senators who don't two fucks about you than you do your own neighbors
adjl posted...
Oh look, the posters that have been desperately trying to deny that anything of consequence happened at the Capitol are eagerly latching on to any report that downplays what happened at the Capitol. I am such surprise.


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kind9
02/23/21 11:39:10 AM
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adjl posted...
Oh look, the posters that have been desperately trying to deny that anything of consequence happened at the Capitol are eagerly latching on to any report that downplays what happened at the Capitol. I am such surprise.
Despite a total lack of public information. A duckbear topic is all it takes for Ohhhja to pop out of the woodwork with confirmation bias tattooed on his forehead.

I can already tell that this is going to be the new narrative. The new right-wing "truth" based on feels over reals. Let's wait for a coroner report.

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OhhhJa
02/23/21 11:54:34 AM
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Oh look, the same posters who didn't care about democrat riots in every major city for a whole year are outraged about MAH CAPITOL where nobody was murdered except for a trump supporters. Who was the "cop" that killed her?
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kind9
02/23/21 12:17:04 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Oh look, the same posters who didn't care about democrat riots in every major city for a whole year are outraged about MAH CAPITOL where nobody was murdered except for a trump supporters. Who was the "cop" that killed her?
I believe systemic racism is real, especially seen in law enforcement and criminal justice. Therefore I believe those people were protesting and rioting for a reason. What was the reason for the capitol riot?

OhhhJa posted...
Who was the "cop" that killed her?
I don't know who you're talking about.

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Clench281
02/23/21 12:20:03 PM
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"he didn't die from a gunshot wound, he died because he lost too much blood"

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OhhhJa
02/23/21 12:55:56 PM
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kind9 posted...
I believe systemic racism is real, especially seen in law enforcement and criminal justice. Therefore I believe those people were protesting and rioting for a reason. What was the reason for the capitol riot?
Because we don't have free and fair elections and haven't for decades. Well, many there were rioting simply for trump but the larger picture here is that it's obvious our elections aren't clean and people are becoming increasingly aware of this obvious fact. We need to go back to all paper ballots. Voting machines are too vulnerable and anyone who believes anything in the cyber world is 100% secure is kidding themselves. That said, there are many reasons to protest in DC and trump himself isn't one of them. But overall I'm glad to see people waking up to the immense corruption in Washington. In an odd turn of events now, internet leftists have become blind nationalists and are defending the state while praising their own communities being burned. I've met leftists in real life that actually stick to their convictions though. The ones who haven't blindly thrown their support behind biden
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OhhhJa
02/23/21 12:56:48 PM
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kind9 posted...
I don't know who you're talking about.
Ashley Babbitt. Have you been living under a rock? Why argue about an event you clearly haven't paid attention to?
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kind9
02/23/21 1:06:58 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Because we don't have free and fair elections and haven't for decades. Well, many there were rioting simply for trump but the larger picture here is that it's obvious our elections aren't clean and people are becoming increasingly aware of this obvious fact. We need to go back to all paper ballots. Voting machines are too vulnerable and anyone who believes anything in the cyber world is 100% secure is kidding themselves. That said, there are many reasons to protest in DC and trump himself isn't one of them. But overall I'm glad to see people waking up to the immense corruption in Washington. In an odd turn of events now, internet leftists have become blind nationalists and are defending the state while praising their own communities being burned. I've met leftists in real life that actually stick to their convictions though. The ones who haven't blindly thrown their support behind biden
Trumpism. If I tell you why these "concerns" are unfounded you'll probably tell me "fake news liberal propaganda" or some shit.

OhhhJa posted...
Ashley Babbitt. Have you been living under a rock? Why argue about an event you clearly haven't paid attention to?
That's what I thought, but it wasn't totally obvious why it followed the rest of your post or why it is relevant at all.

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OhhhJa
02/23/21 1:15:43 PM
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kind9 posted...
Trumpism. If I tell you why these "concerns" are unfounded you'll probably tell me "fake news liberal propaganda" or some shit.
So you believe voting machines are completely invulnerable? Lol. Nothing... i mean NOTHING in the world of cybersecurity is invulnerable. And these voting machines aren't even close to the upper echelon of security in the world of cybersecurity. They've been hacked in real time on video and people still don't believe it. This isn't even considering someone walking in after hours with a goddamn thumb drive. Republicans and democrats alike know this. So why don't they do anything about it?
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OhhhJa
02/23/21 1:16:48 PM
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kind9 posted...
That's what I thought, but it wasn't totally obvious why it followed the rest of your post or why it is relevant at all.
It was totally relevant to adjl's post which is what I was responding to
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kind9
02/23/21 2:05:41 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
So you believe voting machines are completely invulnerable?
Did I say that? I believe all software is prone to vulnerabilities, but these machines are extensively tested before use and there was no evidence of software error adding or subtracting votes and no evidence of hacking. Your refusal to accept a secure election is not an argument for anything. It's an argument from incredulity.

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BlackScythe0
02/23/21 2:11:58 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
It was totally relevant to adjl's post which is what I was responding to

I'm not seeing any relevance to trying to fabricate a conspiracy about the person who shot her to anything else in this thread.
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adjl
02/23/21 2:39:08 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Oh look, the same posters who didn't care about democrat riots in every major city for a whole year are outraged about MAH CAPITOL where nobody was murdered except for a trump supporters.

Why yes, people are indeed more bothered by a bold-faced attempt to undermine the democratic process by assassinating major political figures than by collateral violence perpetrated by a handful of troublemakers during some very justifiable protests. Sensible people, anyway, which tends not to include people that accept "he died from a stroke after being hit in the head" means somebody wasn't murdered (or at least manslaughtered).

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Soup_or_Science
02/23/21 3:54:20 PM
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papercup posted...
Anyone who says it wasn't Trumpzis that attacked the Capitol are liars and hate America.
So it wasn't Trump's fault? You mean it was actually the fault of the actual people that actually decided to do such an actual thing?

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papercup
02/23/21 4:02:23 PM
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I never said it wasnt Trumps fault, what are you talking about?

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Soup_or_Science
02/23/21 4:08:47 PM
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papercup posted...
I never said it wasnt Trumps fault
that's kind of my point
papercup posted...
what are you talking about?
i'm not sure i actually want to >__>

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Arcturusisnow
02/23/21 4:49:16 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Who here said it wasn't trump supporters?

But also, practicing civil disobedience against your government doesn't equate to hating your country. Thats absurd. Thats nationalist talk tbh

papercup posted...
Trying to violently overthrow the government to install a fascist dictator is not civil disobedience.
@OhhhJa Funny how you didn't respond to this.

Soup_or_Science posted... So it wasn't Trump's fault? You mean it was actually the fault of the actual people that actually decided to do such an actual thing?
It was both.

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Arcturusisnow
02/23/21 4:51:41 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Because we don't have free and fair elections and haven't for decades. Well, many there were rioting simply for trump but the larger picture here is that it's obvious our elections aren't clean and people are becoming increasingly aware of this obvious fact. We need to go back to all paper ballots. Voting machines are too vulnerable and anyone who believes anything in the cyber world is 100% secure is kidding themselves. That said, there are many reasons to protest in DC and trump himself isn't one of them. But overall I'm glad to see people waking up to the immense corruption in Washington. In an odd turn of events now, internet leftists have become blind nationalists and are defending the state while praising their own communities being burned. I've met leftists in real life that actually stick to their convictions though. The ones who haven't blindly thrown their support behind biden
We do have free and fair elections, though? You are idiot if you think otherwise? Biden is and always will be better than Trump?
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OhhhJa
02/23/21 6:51:17 PM
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Arcturusisnow posted...
Funny how you didn't respond to this.
I did though my man

Arcturusisnow posted...
We do have free and fair elections, though? You are idiot if you think otherwise? Biden is and always will be better than Trump?
Dude, don't take 7 hits of acid before posting
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SKARDAVNELNATE
02/23/21 6:51:38 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
You know what, that is entirely possible. They may have never heard of Qanon, but they believe the qanon conspiracies so it's irrelevant if they know the source.
If they don't recognize Qanon as the sourse then where did they hear conspiracy theories from? And is it actually the source is it being falsely attributed as the source?

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BlackScythe0
02/24/21 12:28:24 AM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
If they don't recognize Qanon as the sourse then where did they hear conspiracy theories from? And is it actually the source is it being falsely attributed as the source?

Dude what are you trying? Where do you hear your conspiracy theories from? I know my relatives see them on facebook.
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NeoSioType
02/24/21 2:15:51 PM
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Everyone be talking about the Q but no one ever sources Q.

...So I read his posts because someone didn't want me reading it (for whatever reason).

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