Board 8 > Genshin Impact Topic 6: Everybody ask who Tao, but nobody ask how's Tao.

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swordz9
04/04/21 1:35:38 PM
#351:


SwiftyDC posted...


What teams are you using?

Anything I can really. Theyre almost entirely Cryo types so Ive been using Xiangling, Hu Tao, my Diluc who isnt quite ready anyways, Noelle, Jean/Qiqi for extra heals, Venti, Fiscl. I can beat the stages, but cant clear them fast enough for more than 1-2 stars yet. All my characters can only max out at 80. Maybe lv9+ requires being level 90?
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azuarc
04/04/21 1:59:20 PM
#352:


Level 90 is not required for anything. It helps, sure, but mostly for giving access to two additional talent levels, one of which you probably won't be doing because it costs a crown. Unless you have a character that scales from HP or DEF, the benefit of going to 90 is relatively small.

Far more likely, you need a better team composition. I would think basically anything not-cryo would be fine on those floors, even if obviously pyro is ideal. Hu Tao should be fine for one side. Xiangling supporting your best other team should work for the other. Or bring Diluc anyway just to smash ice shields.

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SwiftyDC
04/04/21 3:57:49 PM
#353:


Id definitely get your main DPS to 80 atleast (Hu Tao and Diluc)


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SwiftyDC
04/04/21 3:59:49 PM
#354:


I was gonna ask to put your teams in your Character Showcase so I can see what youre working with, but I dont have you on my friends list. =\

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ShatteredElysium
04/04/21 4:02:58 PM
#355:


Doesn't the damage formula take into account levels? I don't think it's major but it's factored in.
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azuarc
04/04/21 11:01:21 PM
#356:


At low levels, a difference of 10 is significant. At 80 vs 90, that difference is comparatively tiny. Literally an eighth of what it would be at 10 vs 20. I mean, if you want to split hairs, then yes, there are small things like this that matter. You also will have ~15 extra ATK, plus whatever you get directly from the ascension. And for anemo characters, it might affect your lift, such as with jean's E or venti's Q.

But I feel comfortable stating fairly decisively that the primary reason to ascend past 70 is to raise talents past 6. That by itself is at least half the value. And that's from seventy. (The free fate notwithstanding.)

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swordz9
04/05/21 1:31:06 PM
#357:


Yeah, I havent added anybody since I never do co-op anyways. Characters above lv20 I have:

Ganyu, Qiqi, Jean, Venti, Dilic, Hu Tao, Fischl, Xiangling, Noelle, Lumine, Xingqiu, Sucrose, Barbara

Most of those have at least lv4-8 talents

Characters on the bench (lv20 or lower):

Amber, Beidou, Chongyun, Kaeya, Lisa, Ningguang, Razor, Xinyan

If any on the bench will help with Floor 9 and 10 Ill work on leveling them up.
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SwiftyDC
04/05/21 2:35:40 PM
#358:


I dont mind doing the Bounties, but I really wish theyd just have a menu for them so I dont have to keep going back to Big Hertha to complete these quests.

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SwiftyDC
04/05/21 2:44:56 PM
#359:


swordz9 posted...
Yeah, I havent added anybody since I never do co-op anyways. Characters above lv20 I have:

Ganyu, Qiqi, Jean, Venti, Dilic, Hu Tao, Fischl, Xiangling, Noelle, Lumine, Xingqiu, Sucrose, Barbara

Most of those have at least lv4-8 talents

Characters on the bench (lv20 or lower):

Amber, Beidou, Chongyun, Kaeya, Lisa, Ningguang, Razor, Xinyan

If any on the bench will help with Floor 9 and 10 Ill work on leveling them up.

Diluc, Ganyu, Xingqui, Venti/Qiqi

Melt/Freeze team. Venti for CC or Qiqi for heals. Ganyu Ult, Xingqui Ult, Diluc brrr.

Hu Tao, Xiangling, Fischl, Noelle

This team will need some finesse. Noelle shields for Hu Tao, and Guoba/Oz supports.

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dilateDChemist
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swordz9
04/05/21 4:24:35 PM
#360:


Ill give those a shot and see how it goes
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swordz9
04/06/21 8:13:05 AM
#361:


Rosaria banner should be up today!
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SockoressKnight
04/06/21 9:58:39 AM
#362:


Welp, still no Venti after skipping his banner re-run. I do this for you, Eula....

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swordz9
04/06/21 10:00:34 AM
#363:


I want Eula so badly. I have a feeling Ill have to wait for a rerun on her though since my 50:50 luck has been all failures so far >_>
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swordz9
04/06/21 11:35:46 AM
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SockoressKnight
04/06/21 7:42:06 PM
#365:


Time to get Rosaria.

7 pulls in (10 into pity)...Tartaglia :/

EDIT: Rosaria on pull 18 of the banner. (All single pulls)

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swordz9
04/06/21 8:14:25 PM
#366:


5 singles to get Rosaria! :D
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swordz9
04/06/21 8:25:03 PM
#367:


Nooooo I shouldve stopped. Like 13 total singles in and I hit a super random early 5* that was Childe.... fuck that sucks so much
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SockoressKnight
04/06/21 8:35:29 PM
#368:


Really wanted Rosaria dupes, huh?

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swordz9
04/06/21 8:37:18 PM
#369:


Yeah and I didnt expect a 5* so soon since all of mine had come at 75+ and I had just gotten Hu Tao. Fucking dumb Childe argh. Hoping I can luck out with Eula still.

I used more currency after that since I was like oh well fuck it and now I have a C5 Rosaria. She really likes me at least.
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azuarc
04/07/21 1:44:42 AM
#370:


I mean, if you just got Hu Tao, you didn't really lose anything by pulling Childe. I mean, I guess you lost 13 pulls toward pity, but it wasn't like you lost the banner guarantee.

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swordz9
04/07/21 8:10:47 AM
#372:


azuarc posted...
I mean, if you just got Hu Tao, you didn't really lose anything by pulling Childe. I mean, I guess you lost 13 pulls toward pity, but it wasn't like you lost the banner guarantee.

I know, but it still bugs me. I didnt even want Childe and dont have any intention of using him. I dont like how he plays. Too bad he couldnt have been a random Mona :(
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swordz9
04/07/21 10:03:15 AM
#373:


Wonder what kind of 4* weapon and artifacts are ideal for Rosaria
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profDEADPOOL
04/07/21 10:55:35 AM
#375:


swordz9 posted...
Wonder what kind of 4* weapon and artifacts are ideal for Rosaria

At least partially depends on if you're using her as a cryo support or a phys DPS.

Support wants cryo dmg, crit rate, and secondary crit dmg since she'll buff other people's crits based on hers. Phys wants Crescent Pike lol
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PrinceKaro
04/07/21 11:39:39 AM
#376:


profDEADPOOL posted...
Phys wants Crescent Pike lol

not Dragonspine spear?

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swordz9
04/07/21 11:59:14 AM
#377:


Does the support weapon matter? I feel like Ive built basically everyone I have as a DPS lol
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PrinceKaro
04/07/21 12:14:07 PM
#378:


swordz9 posted...
Does the support weapon matter? I feel like Ive built basically everyone I have as a DPS lol

one of the ones with energy recharge probably if you are just using her for her burst

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swordz9
04/07/21 12:38:01 PM
#379:


Guess I have a use for Favonius Lance finally then
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profDEADPOOL
04/07/21 4:14:30 PM
#380:


PrinceKaro posted...
profDEADPOOL posted...
Phys wants Crescent Pike lol

not Dragonspine spear?

I mean maybe? But from a quick look at the Rosaria subreddit they said Crescent Pike.
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azuarc
04/07/21 4:45:22 PM
#381:


The only time I'd consider Dragonspine is on a quick swap team where the internal CD doesn't matter.

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SwiftyDC
04/09/21 1:53:27 AM
#382:


How many times have you guys defeated the Unusual Hilichurls? Im sitting at 15/20, been a good minute since I ran into him though.

Also, hows Rosaria so far? Havent built her yet.

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swordz9
04/09/21 9:14:18 AM
#383:


I like what Ive used of her. Also fuck Im out of Exp books. Any way I can get those from anything or am I doomed til an event? >_>
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SockoressKnight
04/09/21 9:37:43 AM
#384:


SwiftyDC posted...
How many times have you guys defeated the Unusual Hilichurls? Im sitting at 15/20, been a good minute since I ran into him though.
10 times. I actually ran into him fairly recently. I know of 4 of his spawns but don't go out of my way to find him.

swordz9 posted...
I like what Ive used of her. Also fuck Im out of Exp books. Any way I can get those from anything or am I doomed til an event? >_>
Leylines.

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swordz9
04/09/21 9:39:08 AM
#385:


Oh right that thing I forget about all the time because Im always using Resin on talent books, weapon ascension mats and bosses
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azuarc
04/09/21 9:55:52 AM
#386:


Like 5 times, maybe?

And I hate running leylines. It feels good to look at your mora after a full day of leyline grinding, but it also feels really bad to do nothing on a given day because you're collecting gold. Or exp books. Things that you feel you ought to have normally without spending resin. I imagine the same is true if you forge mystic enhancement ore, but I wouldn't know because I've never done it.

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swordz9
04/09/21 9:58:06 AM
#387:


Every survey Im gonna ask that they at least remove resin use from something. I mean I love the game and get its not meant for playing 7 hours a day or something, but damn I need Resin for everything and they either need to drop the cost or remove it from certain things altogether. Hell even just a day a week where domains are free or something would be cool.
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swordz9
04/09/21 10:32:21 AM
#388:


@SwiftyDC thanks for the team suggestions. Got 9* on Floor 9 first try with it! Only got 7 for Floor 10 though. It was actually pretty rough since I kept losing a lot of health. Maybe Ill try Qiqi there instead of Venti.
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SwiftyDC
04/09/21 1:24:58 PM
#389:


Spend your resin on the new event since it gives more EXP books than the normal leylines.

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dilateDChemist
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SwiftyDC
04/09/21 1:26:52 PM
#390:


swordz9 posted...
@SwiftyDC thanks for the team suggestions. Got 9* on Floor 9 first try with it! Only got 7 for Floor 10 though. It was actually pretty rough since I kept losing a lot of health. Maybe Ill try Qiqi there instead of Venti.

np. Trying to remember what Floor 10 is. I think that's the one with the moving warm thingies. I think Venti is still good there with all the small enemies.

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dilateDChemist
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swordz9
04/09/21 1:36:50 PM
#391:


SwiftyDC posted...


np. Trying to remember what Floor 10 is. I think that's the one with the moving warm thingies. I think Venti is still good there with all the small enemies.

Yeah it is. Ill have to keep trying it because I couldnt get 9*s. I beat it with nearly everyone in my Venti group dead at the end lmao

Floor 11 looks like it has a ton of Fatui and one of those Defend the object things. This is the floor everyone fucking hates a lot of I recall. Wonder what teams I should try for it
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swordz9
04/09/21 1:37:13 PM
#392:


SwiftyDC posted...
Spend your resin on the new event since it gives more EXP books than the normal leylines.

When does that go up again?
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SwiftyDC
04/09/21 4:26:07 PM
#393:


It's up now.

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dilateDChemist
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swordz9
04/09/21 4:33:59 PM
#394:


Kinda wish I hadnt burned all my resin when I woke up. I suppose I still have a million fragile resin if I need them though
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SwiftyDC
04/09/21 4:36:31 PM
#395:


You'll have to do the first exploration mission with Endora, but once that's complete it opens up the new boss fight with Oceanid.

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dilateDChemist
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SwiftyDC
04/09/21 4:46:17 PM
#396:


Yeah, it's super easy with Ganyu lmao.

Average time to beat it is 1:12.


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azuarc
04/09/21 6:29:41 PM
#397:


SwiftyDC posted...
Average time to beat it is 1:12.

Was taking me twice that. With Ganyu. Apparently I need to L2P. An Amos Bow would help, too.

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swordz9
04/09/21 6:51:11 PM
#398:


It says 1 of that water or 40 resin. Do I have to use the water to collect the reward by default the first time?
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SwiftyDC
04/09/21 7:07:09 PM
#399:


azuarc posted...
Was taking me twice that. With Ganyu. Apparently I need to L2P. An Amos Bow would help, too.

I had a few times that clocked around 1:48, because of terrible shooting. Fastest was 1:08

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dilateDChemist
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SwiftyDC
04/09/21 7:08:06 PM
#400:


swordz9 posted...
It says 1 of that water or 40 resin. Do I have to use the water to collect the reward by default the first time?

Yup, doesn't give you an option to spend resin the first time.

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dilateDChemist
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SwiftyDC
04/09/21 9:11:51 PM
#401:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yBL07LKoVU

Hu Tao - final boss

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