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Sunroof
02/01/21 8:29:19 PM
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Menji
02/01/21 9:45:42 PM
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red sox 777 posted... Cathie Wood is also starting a space-themed ETF (ARKX) and SPCE has long been a holding in ARKK.

ARKK just sold SPCE the other day... not sure if it was all of it but I did see that in the daily email I get.

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masterplum
02/01/21 10:19:06 PM
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I might just have low stress stocks for the next few days.

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red sox 777
02/01/21 10:19:21 PM
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Ah, it must have been ARKQ rather than ARKK. It's on the holdings list as of today.

https://ark-funds.com/wp-content/fundsiteliterature/holdings/ARK_AUTONOMOUS_TECHNOLOGY_&_ROBOTICS_ETF_ARKQ_HOLDINGS.pdf

I think what she does is buy and sell frequently to adjust the weights of the holdings.

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Menji
02/01/21 10:22:35 PM
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Okay that makes more sense, I should be checking that instead.

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Colegreen_c12
02/01/21 10:30:05 PM
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CoolCly
02/02/21 5:16:22 AM
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Boy GME is taking a beating - is this the end of the road or a pit stop before another rally?

Volume is low so there might be a lot of "holding the line" but that doesn't mean much if the price tanks and the frenzy to buy is over.

I dumped some new money into my account so if I think this is gonna take off again I have a real good opportunity to get it cheap here, but I just don't know if that's the play.

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red sox 777
02/02/21 6:40:19 AM
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If it's still at $160 at open I'll buy a little more. Not my full line from before though because I like having a big gain on this stock locked in and don't want to give that up too much. I know, it's not that rational.

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masterplum
02/02/21 7:19:11 AM
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Well I bailed just in the nick of time

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StartTheMachine
02/02/21 7:39:17 AM
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*sigh*

Should have left this shit alone when I had 100k. Make no mistake though what's going on. Order flow for AMC was 95% buys and 5% sells. This after hours shit is just hedge funds selling to one another to drop the price. It's called a short ladder attack that manipulates algorithms, and the chart for GME is basically identical.

I'm too scared of losing all my gains. I cashed out with my account at 75k like a pussy. This isn't fair but it's too much fucking stress.

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red sox 777
02/02/21 8:02:59 AM
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That's too bad Blur - I know it hurts. I think the risk management now is okay though - original bet was too big relative to account size. The thing about position sizing is that when the stock goes up, the position size grows by itself. So you would need to sell some to maintain the same position sizing as before.

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red sox 777
02/02/21 8:17:35 AM
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So this low volume plunge is taking us pretty close to the point where WSB could just own 100% of Gamestop for $1,000 average per subscriber. That's probably less than the typical WSB person's monthly budget for stupid YOLO bets that fail 90% of the time.

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StartTheMachine
02/02/21 8:27:01 AM
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https://seekingalpha.com/instablog/11442671-gerald-klein/3096735-anatomy-of-a-short-attack
https://youtu.be/RZHn--2wfwQ?t=11

Highly recommend reading that article and watching this guy go through exactly what happened yesterday (and what's happening now).

I'll get back in under 6.

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wallmasterz
02/02/21 8:39:35 AM
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I bought into AMC at $12 a share. Only $100 so nothing I cant afford to lose, but still. Im just going to hold. Im hoping this thing has one last good pump in it.

worst case scenario Ill hold and sell the surge when theatres are back in full swing

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TheCodeisBosco
02/02/21 8:44:25 AM
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wallmasterz posted...
I bought into AMC at $12 a share. Only $100 so nothing I cant afford to lose, but still. Im just going to hold. Im hoping this thing has one last good pump in it.

worst case scenario Ill hold and sell the surge when theatres are back in full swing

Here here. I don't think we've seen the last of AMC. Or GME for that matter, but especially AMC.

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DoomTheGyarados
02/02/21 8:45:32 AM
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I see someone wants me to buy a shit ton of amc again.

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StartTheMachine
02/02/21 8:53:29 AM
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Alright, I got 2000 more shares at 9.15. Fuck it

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DoomTheGyarados
02/02/21 8:54:37 AM
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I am going to buy an ever loving fuckton of long calls. This is stupid.

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masterplum
02/02/21 8:57:16 AM
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On one hand I lost $600 yesterday. On the other I would have lost $2000 if I held 12 more hours.

Ill call this a win. Kiiiiiind of interested in buying a little back

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DoomTheGyarados
02/02/21 8:59:19 AM
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Btw. I am in charge of my family's more aggressive investing. My partner is an accountant who does the usual stuff. I also only invest with money that if I lost 90% I would be upset but it wouldn't harm my family. I mostly invest with money from my business or previous earnings from prior investment. Never invest with money that will hurt your standard of living.

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masterplum
02/02/21 8:59:41 AM
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Eh sure why not, bought back 100 shares. Think it keeps slumping but Im kind of interested at 9

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DoomTheGyarados
02/02/21 9:05:39 AM
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Also if you don't mind day trading gamestop is probably a w be a use wsb is autists (they call themselves that)

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Sunroof
02/02/21 9:05:59 AM
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Market has been big green the past two days. Makes it tough to get in.
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DoomTheGyarados
02/02/21 9:07:00 AM
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Ok amc stay cratered so I can buy long calls for stupid cheap kthx

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DoomTheGyarados
02/02/21 9:08:15 AM
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If you want to spin the trend wheel I bet our favorite marine stock can make some profit

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Sunroof
02/02/21 9:09:45 AM
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Okay so I am slowly figuring out my platform lets me to these trading choices. Can someone explain what they mean?
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Sunroof
02/02/21 9:14:58 AM
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Here is a scenario I just drafted. If I hit submit, what would this mean?
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red sox 777
02/02/21 9:17:39 AM
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Sunroof posted...


Here is a scenario I just drafted. If I hit submit, what would this mean?

You are paying $108,000 to buy 90 calls at a strike of $14 expiring Friday. Each call gives you the right to buy 100 shares of AMC for a price of $14. That is a total of 9000 shares of AMC. If AMC is below $14 at close on Friday your calls expire worthless, resulting in a loss of 100% of your investment of 108k.

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DoomTheGyarados
02/02/21 9:18:18 AM
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You are betting on amc hitting 14 by Friday. If the stock goes up this will be worth more. If it goes down it will be worth less and less. This is a risky call as it is close to date

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Sunroof
02/02/21 9:18:53 AM
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Lmao. Okay, well what if its over $14?
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StartTheMachine
02/02/21 9:19:00 AM
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AMC on the comeback. Let's get that shit to 15 again

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DoomTheGyarados
02/02/21 9:19:50 AM
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Think of it like this. Say amc opens at 10. You buy. It goes to 12. Your contracts will be worth more and you sell and move on

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Sunroof
02/02/21 9:20:07 AM
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Interesting. So Buy to Open just means picking a stock and predicting when it will hit a certain value by? And if its under the value by the date then I lose it all, but if its over the value (regardless by how much) then I gain?
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red sox 777
02/02/21 9:20:12 AM
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Sunroof posted...
Lmao. Okay, well what if its about $14?

At exactly $14 your calls are worth zero. For each dollar above that it goes, they increase in value by $9,000.

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Lopen
02/02/21 9:21:17 AM
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Sunroof be VERY CAREFUL with options. I would advise never buying and never selling them unless you have the collateral

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Sunroof
02/02/21 9:21:54 AM
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Oops, I meant over. Okay, so the more over the Strike price, the more I gain.
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DoomTheGyarados
02/02/21 9:21:56 AM
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Yeah short term options is how I lost a fair bit of money last year now long calls are a new favorite of mine!

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Sunroof
02/02/21 9:22:11 AM
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Im not. Im just trying to understand.
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Sunroof
02/02/21 9:22:56 AM
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So long calls are doing what I did in that draft, except you choose a date super far down the road? And the farther down the road you choose, the less gains you have since its less risky?
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red sox 777
02/02/21 9:23:02 AM
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Yes, I would strongly suggest you do NOT play with these until you have understood them better. They are literally the single easiest way to destroy wealth.

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masterplum
02/02/21 9:24:37 AM
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What would happen if you bought that? You would have lost a ton of money

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Sunroof
02/02/21 9:24:45 AM
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What would happen if I pick a very low strike price with a very long expiration date, essentially guaranteeing itd get hit?
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red sox 777
02/02/21 9:27:29 AM
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Sunroof posted...
What would happen if I pick a very low strike price with a very long expiration date, essentially guaranteeing itd get hit?

Then it gets closer and closer to just owning the shares. A share is basically a call with a strike of zero that never expires. But buying any option will always be riskier than owning shares.

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StartTheMachine
02/02/21 9:28:34 AM
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red sox 777 posted...
Yes, I would strongly suggest you do NOT play with these until you have understood them better. They are literally the single easiest way to destroy wealth.

This. I started off paper trading options before I delved into the real thing.

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Sunroof
02/02/21 9:28:40 AM
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Interesting. I think to truly understand this, Id have to experiment with incredibly safe stocks and safe options and just see what it results in.
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CaptainOfCrush
02/02/21 9:32:10 AM
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Sunroof posted...
Interesting. I think to truly understand this, Id have to experiment with incredibly safe stocks and safe options and just see what it results in.
Or watch a few YouTube videos. Why stress yourself out with real skin in the game before you even understand what you're doing (unless you like the thrill... which I'm guessing you might lol)?

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Forceful_Dragon
02/02/21 9:32:22 AM
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I would recommend watching youtube videos for a couple hours before putting in such a stake yourself.

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Sunroof
02/02/21 9:32:22 AM
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Well anyway, I just bought Tesla like I said I would in the last topic. Plan is to hold and hold and hold (aka sell the moment anything marginally good or bad happens).
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Sunroof
02/02/21 9:32:51 AM
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YouTube videos are a good idea. I didnt think of that. Ill check those out
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Forceful_Dragon
02/02/21 9:33:00 AM
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CaptainOfCrush posted...
(unless you like the thrill... which I'm guessing you might lol)

That has not been my impression of moonroof at all <_<

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