Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 353: Sewage Runoff

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Jakyl25 posted...

Mandatory logic and media literacy courses in high school

These people think the government is trying to control you. You think that would stop it? Some of these people are smart.

Someone on CE said that they got moderated for calling Republicans a Cult/Cultists. Just FYI. (Though they should if they want to be consistent because one of my past moderation reasonings absolutely supports that being a moderation - when I said "sane people don't support burning down businesses and this is why Biden will come out against it if he wants to win the election" and I got moderated because "I implied that Democrats are not sane people". Not joking).

lol?

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Corrik7 posted...

(Though they should if they want to be consistent because one of my past moderation reasonings absolutely supports that being a moderation - when I said "sane people don't support burning down businesses and this is why Biden will come out against it if he wants to win the election" and I got moderated because "I implied that Democrats are not sane people". Not joking).

lol?

you've already implied that liberals are idiots in the past so i'm not sure why you're bothered by this moderation.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

you've already implied that liberals are idiots in the past so i'm not sure why you're bothered by this moderation.

What?

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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1345372487337598977?s=21

Love to vote in illegal and invalid elections
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I have said this a million times, and I will say it again. The difference between liberals and conservatives is that liberals view things in theory and in ideal situations. They speak from the heart and what is the best they want for the world ideally.

Conservatives, in general, view things from experience and reality. They know the things liberals wish to attain in many times is not feasible or possible. They speak from the brain and what is the best that can be possibly done.

"liberals don't use their brains." this is what you were essentially saying in this post.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/532366-11-senate-republicans-say-they-will-object-to-electoral-college-results-on

At least a dozen seditionists in the Senate

fuck all of these people

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

"liberals don't use their brains." this is what you were essentially saying in this post.

Lasa, I don't know what you are arguing here.

Yes, Conservatives speak from their brain. Liberals from their heart. I don't what that has to do with anything else.

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Corrik7 posted...

Lasa, I don't know what you are arguing here.

Yes, Conservatives speak from their brain. Liberals from their heart. I don't what that has to do with anything else.

I feel like thats not true as a blanket statement at all

Like religious people tend to use that as the basis for their conservative beliefs, thats not their brains

And a common argument against liberals is that theyre the intellectual elite
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Jakyl25 posted...

I feel like thats not true as a blanket statement at all

Like religious people tend to use that as the basis for their conservative beliefs, thats not their brains

And a common argument against liberals is that theyre the intellectual elite

That's your opinion, and it would be consensus not blanket.

Liberals speak for what they feel is right in their hearts not with understanding of why it cannot be due to limitations and life around them. Conservatives speak from what they understand is realistic. Liberals turn into conservatives more later in life when they start to understand life more and that their dreams and hopes are bound by reality.

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Corrik7 posted...

Lasa, I don't know what you are arguing here.

Yes, Conservatives speak from their brain. Liberals from their heart. I don't what that has to do with anything else.

uh, i'm backing up my claim since you asked me to explain? this really isn't hard to follow.

me: you've implied that liberals are idiots.
you: what?
me: here's a post where you basically say liberals don't use their brains.
you: what are you arguing?

not sure what you're not understanding here.

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Corrik7 posted...

Liberals turn into conservatives more later in life when they start to understand life more and that their dreams and hopes are bound by reality.

This really isnt true, its just what conservatives want to believe.

And that article you posted earlier shows that a lot of conservatives certainly arent bound by reality!
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

uh, i'm backing up my claim since you asked me to? this really isn't hard to follow.

me: you've implied that liberals are idiots.
you: what?
me: here's a post where you basically say liberals don't use their brains.
you: what are you arguing?

not sure what you're not understanding here.

I said what because I don't know how that relates to my post you quoted unless you misread it.

Also your post doesn't back up your claim I called liberals idiots. It backs up I think liberals go from passion and conservatives go from reality.

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Conservatives vote with their guns.

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Jakyl25 posted...

This really isnt true, its just what conservatives want to believe.

And that article you posted earlier shows that a lot of conservatives certainly arent bound by reality!

The polarized are definitely a goofy bunch to be sure.

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Corrik7 posted...

conservatives go from reality.

Corrik7 posted...

Some of my workmates are bussing to DC for January 5th. Lmfao.

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Corrik7 posted...

That's your opinion, and it would be consensus not blanket.

Liberals speak for what they feel is right in their hearts not with understanding of why it cannot be due to limitations and life around them. Conservatives speak from what they understand is realistic. Liberals turn into conservatives more later in life when they start to understand life more and that their dreams and hopes are bound by reality.

"My team is objectively the correct one" -Corrik

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Mitch got the spraypaint, too.

https://www.wdrb.com/news/sen-mitch-mcconnells-louisville-home-vandalized/article_62eca8c2-4d0b-11eb-9b7d-cf36ca105b39.html

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Conservatives speak from their feelings just as much as liberals. Both sides believe theyre seeing reality correctly. The difference is that liberals incorrectly see reality from a futuristic perspective (ie. If we lived in a perfect world, x, y, and z would all be true and thus we should strive for x, y, and z without grasping the realistic problems that prevent them from existing at this time.). Conservatives, meanwhile, see reality from a past perspective (ie. Everything was one way back in my day and therefore any changes to meet the changing global economy are either unnecessary or unfair to me, because I never had any advantages that you want to give other people now.)

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Corrik7 posted...

I said what because I don't know how that relates to my post you quoted unless you misread it.

it relates to that post because you were bothered by a mod claiming that you implied that democrats are insane. i was saying "well, you've said similar things in the past, so i'm not sure why you're that bothered by a mod putting those words in your mouth."

Also your post doesn't back up your claim I called liberals idiots. It backs up I think liberals go from passion and conservatives go from reality.

oh, come the fuck on. are we really going to turn this into semantic nonsense? no, you didn't literally use the word "idiots" but you were saying liberals "don't speak from the brain" (unlike conservatives). if someone tells me i'm not using my brain, it's very fucking clear to me that i'm being called an idiot.

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https://www.newsweek.com/62-percent-americans-blame-gop-trump-2k-stimulus-checks-stalemate-poll-1558507

A 62 percent majority of Americans said they blame congressional Republicans and President Donald Trump for failing to hash out an agreement for $2,000 stimulus relief checks.

National polling data from Data for Progress, a progressive think tank, released Friday from among 1,166 likely voters found that 47 percent blame Republicans in Congress and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell specificallywhile just 15 percent blame Trump for not supporting the $600 to $2,000 direct payment increase earlier.

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The majority of Americans surveyed in the latest Data for Progress polls do appear to blame Republicans (62 percent). But progressives have become split after Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer led several Democrats Friday in pushing through a defense spending bill which Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders wanted to use as leverage for $2,000 checks.

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But critics responded to Omar's sharing of the Data for Progress polls that show blame being pointed at Republicans, with many asking why she and others voted in favor of the $600 checks in the first place. Many responses wondered why Democrats didn't leverage Senate Republicans for the $2,000 checks.

Which Democratic senators actually support the $2000 checks, though? So far, at least 41 of them don't seem to think it is much of a priority, but they moved hella quick to defeat Bernie's filibuster alongside their Republican friends to overfund the Pentagon," wrote Utah resident Josh Bowden.

Wow it's almost like everything i said before about this situation was correct and prematurely chickening out on pushing for $2000 was fucking stupid

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https://twitter.com/sfpelosi/status/1345433930158149632?s=21

Classic Ted

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hm.
a state rep for PA just died of a brain aneurysm (Mike Reese).
had covid last month.

could be a coincidence but there's known neurological damage that can occur, including to the brain that aren't affected due to lack of oxygen. was just a few days ago a study showing blood vessels and inflammation in the brain may be a direct result of it, with damage seen that'd normally be associated with strokes, for example. all ties back with the faintings in China we saw last year too, as well as the notable aging in severe cases.

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That's the second GOP House member to die in a week.

Not looking forward to this getting added to the Qspiracy list.

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Louie Gohmert calls for violence due to his lawsuit against Pence being thrown out:

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1345215603875999745?s=21

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

it relates to that post because you were bothered by a mod claiming that you implied that democrats are insane. i was saying "well, you've said similar things in the past, so i'm not sure why you're that bothered by a mod putting those words in your mouth."

oh, come the fuck on. are we really going to turn this into semantic nonsense? no, you didn't literally use the word "idiots" but you were saying liberals "don't speak from the brain" (unlike conservatives). if someone tells me i'm not using my brain, it's very fucking clear to me that i'm being called an idiot.

No, one can be intelligent and not use that intelligence with respect to particular things. There's a vast infinity of issues that I haven't put thought to, for instance. That's different from not having the intelligence.

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red sox 777 posted...

No, one can be intelligent and not use that intelligence with respect to particular things. There's a vast infinity of issues that I haven't put thought to, for instance. That's different from not having the intelligence.

I think he is just not familiar with the expression or something.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Louie Gohmert calls for violence due to his lawsuit against Pence being thrown out:

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1345215603875999745?s=21

Im getting a little nervous about this situation

I have no idea what will happen if Pence actually tries to pull some shit
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The problem I had with the moderation though was the moderator applied the not sane comment to Democrats himself. My comment was specifically about people who supported burning down businesses, and even made a point to state that Biden wasn't going to support it because it's not sane. So saying I implied Democrats doesn't actually make sense. Most Democrats don't support burning down businesses.

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

Im getting a little nervous about this situation

I have no idea what will happen if Pence actually tries to pull some shit

Pence has been signaling preeeeeetty hard that he ain't gonna do shit.

He is over this.

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Someone posted this and it got a chuckle out of me:

Donald Trump has had the full 2020 experience. He contracted COVID-19, he lost his job, and will now be evicted.

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/portland-ted-wheeler-pledges-antifa-riots

God damn, portland mayor. You are fucking up. You have to act like antifa doesn't exist. Did you forget you are a democrat?

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https://twitter.com/Timodc/status/1345466558877900800

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TheRock1525 posted...

Donald Trump has had the full 2020 experience. He contracted COVID-19, he lost his job, and will now be evicted.

Old joke but yes.

i mean of course wheeler's doing that. trump's out, he won re-election from someone more extreme, so now he can get back to business. they've outlived their usefulness with the riots so time to crack down on 'em.

besides, oregon's bleeding money and no insurance will cover the businesses.

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I've noticed that every time violence from the right comes up, Corrik instantly goes to Google to search for an article about BLM to post. It literally never fails.

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Wanglicious posted...

besides, oregon's bleeding money and no insurance will cover the businesses.

insurance would have already covered the businesses. you don't buy insurance after the fact.

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red13n posted...

insurance would have already covered the businesses. you don't buy insurance after the fact.

Insurance can be canceled.

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Corrik7 posted...

Insurance can be canceled.

Yes, but source on if any of this has happened? Typically insurance companies make so much money that things like this are a drop in the bucket. They are prepared for catastrophic payouts.

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insurance also is updated yearly, usually in July or January, which is why i said that in the future tense. it's a known trend since last month now since people are finding out that they ain't getting renewals and brokers are getting word about coverage changes due to rioting.

https://www.oregonlive.com/business/2020/12/insurers-balk-at-covering-portland-businesses-brokers-say-downtown-upheaval-has-made-carriers-wary.html
(same article, no incognito needed - https://archive.is/EH9R6 )

they ain't getting covered. if they do it's at massively increased premiums and won't include certain damages, like, say... those from rioting.

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red13n posted...

Yes, but source on if any of this has happened? Typically insurance companies make so much money that things like this are a drop in the bucket. They are prepared for catastrophic payouts.

I don't have a source on this. I do know I did read months ago saying businesses were trying to leave downtown and insurance companies were refusing to insure people there. Not sure of the context.

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Wanglicious posted...

besides, oregon's bleeding money and no insurance will cover the businesses.

Going to go back to Wang's backtracking that this is the statement hes trying to defend.

These businesses are in most cases already covered.

And yes, increased premiums with risk.

Your statement is still wrong.

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yes yes, we know you don't read what you don't want to read. even when faced with an article covering people and brokers saying what's going on you ignore it. i'm not bothering with you because i already learned last time around that you're worthless to argue with, you just wanna be a smug asshole about things as opposed to looking at what's really there.

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Pretty good statement from Romney on the Sedition Pals (where he basically calls them out for putting their presidential aspirations above their oath of office):

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1345526357632155648

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Wanglicious posted...

yes yes, we know you don't read what you don't want to read. even when faced with an article covering people and brokers saying what's going on you ignore it. i'm not bothering with you because i already learned last time around that you're worthless to argue with, you just wanna be a smug asshole about things as opposed to looking at what's really there.

You backtracked. Your initial ploy was none of these are being covered. You are now saying they wont have future coverage.

If you want to argue that, sure. We should stop people from destroying buildings for this.

But you claimed something that isn't true.

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red13n posted...

Yes, but source on if any of this has happened? Typically insurance companies make so much money that things like this are a drop in the bucket. They are prepared for catastrophic payouts.

this is your regular reminder that traditional insurers purchase insurance from reinsurers to ensure that even catastrophic events don't harm them significantly

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Corrik7 posted...

Lasa, I don't know what you are arguing here.

Yes, Conservatives speak from their brain. Liberals from their heart. I don't what that has to do with anything else.

LordoftheMorons posted...

Louie Gohmert calls for violence due to his lawsuit against Pence being thrown out:

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1345215603875999745?s=21

Republican source for the election fraud: Dude, my feels.

Classic Corrik lmfao

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All these people concerned with the "cost" of property damage during the protests yet give zero shits about the cost of treating all those Covid cases from the Sturgis rally. Which was $12 billion.

Property damage over the killing of an innocent black man? That's horrible.

Cost of medical care for a bunch of idiots going to a stupid Bike Rally? Eh whatever.

It seems when a bunch of conservatives gather to have fun and it ends up hurting America they don't give a crap. But speaking out about an injustice that might lead to some property damage? That's the worst thing in the world.

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TheRock1525 posted...

All these people concerned with the "cost" of property damage during the protests yet give zero shits about the cost of treating all those Covid cases from the Sturgis rally. Which was $12 billion.

Property damage over the killing of an innocent black man? That's horrible.

Cost of medical care for a bunch of idiots going to a stupid Bike Rally? Eh whatever.

It seems when a bunch of conservatives gather to have fun and it ends up hurting America they don't give a crap. But speaking out about an injustice that might lead to some property damage? That's the worst thing in the world.

That's simple. It's just the optics of what can be shown on the news/shared on social media. Property damage/looting/rioting/whatever is an easy sell. People getting sick isn't. We've seen it over and over again, even from certain people that post here, that they didn't take COVID seriously until it happened to them personally. People don't get overly riled up over things that are "invisible" and that they don't relate to.


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