Poll of the Day > Trump has approved HANGING, ELECTRIC CHAIR and POISON GAS CHAMBER for EXECUTION

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The Trump Administration wants to Kill as MANY as people on death row as he can before he leaves office and he already has approved HORRIFIC out of date methods including the Electric Chair, Hanging and POISON GAS CHAMBER!!!

Lisa Montgomery is one who was sentenced to death after she strangled a pregnant dog breeder, Bobbie Jo Stinnett having pretended to be interested in buying a puppy in 2004 and then used a KNIFE to cut out her baby and passed it off as her own.

She had told family and friends she was pregnant and was arrested a day later when the baby was returned alive and healthy to the victim's husband

One would conclude someone would not be in her right mind to do this but a Missouri jury rejected compelling evidence that she was mentally ill where she was a victim of incest, and raped and forced into child prostitution as they sentenced her to death

Her execution was delayed but is now due to die on January 12 and the first woman to die in 67 years which is one of Trump's final acts as President

Those opposed to capital punishment contend she had ultimately been doomed by the sadistic trump rather than the evidence

4 other prisoners will also be put to death as 2 of them have already died what critics call is a "Death Row Killing Spree"

Last friday, child killer Alfred Bourgeois became the 10th inmate of 2020 to be executed and Lisa will be the next

Trump says he stands for "law and order" and is doing all he can to bring justice to victims families before Joe Biden who has pledged to PHASE OUT capital punishment

Trump has scheduled more executions than any president in a century as he is encouraging officials to use other methods deemed barbaric including electrocution, hanging, firing squad and even putting them in a poison gas chamber

Brandon Bernard was one of the youngest to receive a federal death sentence last week after Kim Kardashian's failed to stop it when she pleaded for mercy.

While just over half of the US states have the death penalty, far fewer actually make use of it yet Trump's Justice Department can order the execution for federal criminals

There are 52 offenders on federal death row, most in Indiana

Most states preferred execution methods id lethal injection but Trump wants the more methods used to hurry the process as injections are known to cause cruel pain before death.

Trump's enthusiasm for capital punishment is hardly new as he demanded the Central Park 5 in 1989 to be sentenced to Death despite their innocence brought to light which he still DENIES of it

54% of Americans however believe capital punishment is morally ACCEPTABLE but that number is shrinking amid a string of overturned convictions

Do you support the Death Penalty?

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I think you should give someone the choice of execution they want. I support the death penalty, but not as a deterrent, just as a means to remove people who are an ever-present danger if left alive. Some serial rapist or murderer isn't going to change. They can't be released. There's no point in wasting tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands in tax dollars for someone that the world only benefits from by not having them exist at all.

Death penalty is a waste. Even if someone's irredeemable and/or unreleasable, they can still be put to use. Better to make them repay their debt to society as best they can than to throw their lives and whatever use that could be made of them away.

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Japan also does hanging as capital punishment, so I'm not concerned about that being used in the death penalty, not too concerned about the chair either, the gas chamber will be too cruel for most on death row and shouldn't be an option for anyone outside of a terrorist.
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Yes, I support it and most of these people deserve it.

The one guy, Bernard, seemed to be possibly innocent and should not have been executed, though. There need to be more protections in place to halt or overturn capital punishment when evidence throwing the decision into doubt is uncovered, and prosecutors that break the law by withholding evidence and such need to be severely punished w/ jail sentences instead of given immunity.
Can't believe it's even controversial (Innocence Project proves that it apparently is), but DNA evidence should be examined in all criminal cases, especially capital punishment cases.

But theese other inmates? Good riddance.
I do think those are pretty barbaric methods, though. Firing squad would be better. I think only Utah allows for that...

Death penalty is a regressive fucking joke.

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Shadowbird_RH posted...

Death penalty is a waste. Even if someone's irredeemable and/or unreleasable, they can still be put to use. Better to make them repay their debt to society as best they can than to throw their lives and whatever use that could be made of them away.

The problem is that "the usuals" will bitch that it's inhumane to make anyone do anything ever. The mayor of Berlin wanted to institute a program for people on welfare to help clean up the city and stuff and earn some money but was decried for solely wanting to force non-disabled people to actually contribute. Lots of places are having so many issues because rather than telling the morons to shut up and go away, they're being listened to because they somehow have power now. Saying "no" without a backup plan should negate the "no" outright, IMO. I'd be okay with no death penalties if those who would've received them are instead used as free labor. The problem with that is that with a system controlled by corporate interests, laws will be lobbied in such a way that it could essentially be a return to slavery. There'd need to be a lot checks/balances immune to erosion.

I'm not sure how involved Trump is with any of this.

Full Throttle posted...

Lisa Montgomery is one who was sentenced to death after she strangled a pregnant dog breeder, Bobbie Jo Stinnett having pretended to be interested in buying a puppy in 2004 and then used a KNIFE to cut out her baby and passed it off as her own.

jfc, that's horrific.

Full Throttle posted...

One would conclude someone would not be in her right mind to do this but a Missouri jury rejected compelling evidence that she was mentally ill where she was a victim of incest, and raped and forced into child prostitution as they sentenced her to death

Abnormality vs insanity. Honestly, like half of all serious crimes seem like nobody in their right mind would do them. If we relied on the metric that the crime itself demonstrates mental illness, then every mass shooter would qualify for insanity.

Full Throttle posted... Do you support the death penalty at all?

Only in the case of revolutionary leaders, terrorist leaders, and criminal organization leaders. El Chapo can escape just about any prison, but he can't escape the grave... or can he?

Most crimes I don't really see the point, maybe excluding murders that happen behind bars because at that point you'd be threatening somebody in prison with more prison.

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Texas has been killing people off left-and-right this last year or so

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Full Throttle posted...

Lisa Montgomery is one who was sentenced to death after she strangled a pregnant dog breeder, Bobbie Jo Stinnett having pretended to be interested in buying a puppy in 2004 and then used a KNIFE to cut out her baby and passed it off as her own.

I don't support the death penalty but holy fucking shit

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Gas chamber is what nazis did.

isn't trump also very pro life? or he professes to be?

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Executions cost a lot of money due to arbitration...

But what if they added more exciting and popular forms of execution?

I mean... it costs on average about $12million for hold a death row inmate for the 20~40 years of extra arbitration.

But what if they had the option to get shot by a tank, or have a missile blow them up? That's metal and a tenth the cost

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Lokarin posted...

Executions cost a lot of money due to arbitration...

But what if they added more exciting and popular forms of execution?

I mean... it costs on average about $12million for hold a death row inmate for the 20~40 years of extra arbitration.

But what if they had the option to get shot by a tank, or have a missile blow them up? That's metal and a tenth the cost

If you're going to go the brutality rout, the art of horrifying the populous into obedience with public executions was mastered long ago. Whipping, burning, and mutilation by blade are just the tip of the iceberg. If you're going to engage in human sacrifice to control the masses, you're going to want to make as good an impression as you can.

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The funny thing is that, for all the hyperbolic rhetoric, the actual number of executions is surprisingly small.

In the course of 2020, in an unprecedented glut of judicial killing, the Trump administration rushed to put 10 prisoners to death. The execution spree ran roughshod over historical norms and stood entirely contrary to the decline in the practice of the death penalty that has been the trend in the US for several years.

Everything else aside for a minute, that's some fucking yellow journalism.

BlackScythe0 posted...

Gas chamber is what nazis did.

Godwin's Law and Poe's Law in the same post!

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DoubleOSnake posted...

isn't trump also very pro life? or he professes to be?

Unfortunately "pro-life" doesn't actually mean pro-life.

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faramir77 posted...

I don't support the death penalty but holy fucking shit

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Zeus posted...

Godwin's Law and Poe's Law in the same post!

Is there a humane gas chamber? Not being sarcastic I seriously don't know I only know of the super fucked up kind.

Life in prison is sufficient and people who are later exonerated through new evidence can actually... you know... be let out if we use that instead of the death penalty.

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Raddest_Chad posted...

I think you should give someone the choice of execution they want. I support the death penalty, but not as a deterrent, just as a means to remove people who are an ever-present danger if left alive. Some serial rapist or murderer isn't going to change. They can't be released. There's no point in wasting tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands in tax dollars for someone that the world only benefits from by not having them exist at all.

See, I'm torn on this issue. With that said, I lean toward supporting the penalty for similar reasons.

And if I was a victim, or relative of a victim, I would feel safer knowing they would never be able to harm me, my family, or anyone else ever again.

But at the same time, I don't trust the current criminal justice system. It's very likely that innocent people would die due to the death penalty.

You guys should make death row kill off people quickly so judges stop putting people on death row they're not 1000% sure is the perpetrator.
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Raddest_Chad posted...

I think you should give someone the choice of execution they want. I support the death penalty, but not as a deterrent, just as a means to remove people who are an ever-present danger if left alive. Some serial rapist or murderer isn't going to change. They can't be released. There's no point in wasting tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands in tax dollars for someone that the world only benefits from by not having them exist at all.

This I don't I don't mind them havinf a choice either based on cost. If they want something elaborate and expensice they or there family should pay bit either way id be fine with them going out how they want

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I don't trust the government nor our justice system, nor should anyone else with half a brain, therefore we shouldn't support them having the power to administer irreversible capital punishment regardless of the severity of the crime in question

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Shadowbird_RH posted...

If you're going to go the brutality rout, the art of horrifying the populous into obedience with public executions was mastered long ago. Whipping, burning, and mutilation by blade are just the tip of the iceberg. If you're going to engage in human sacrifice to control the masses, you're going to want to make as good an impression as you can.

The idea wasn't about brutality, but providing 'awesome' deaths to encourage the guilty to not arbitrate forever and just accept a blazing final moments

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BlackScythe0 posted...

Is there a humane gas chamber? Not being sarcastic I seriously don't know I only know of the super fucked up kind.

There can be. They can use nitrogen to displace the oxygen, or carbon monoxide, either of which would cause the person to slowly lose consciousness before suffocating.

They don't do that, though. They use hydrogen cyanide, which is a visible gas that the person is instructed to consciously inhale to hasten the process. It's an extremely traumatic and painful death, where you spend upwards of 20 minutes gasping for air out of reflex.

Fortunately I don't live in a shit hole country that thinks the government has the right to brutally execute its own people, regardless of what crime they've done. Lock them away and make them sit in a bleak caged building for the rest of their life thinking about what they've done.

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I support the death penalty for all crimes against humanity.

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Full Throttle posted...

Lisa Montgomery is one who was sentenced to death after she strangled a pregnant dog breeder, Bobbie Jo Stinnett having pretended to be interested in buying a puppy in 2004 and then used a KNIFE to cut out her baby and passed it off as her own.

If anyone deserves to have the death penalty its people like this, this is just sick and irredeemable.

Also duckbear that is one of the worst formulated sentences ever, like I cant tell who was the dog breeder or who was the murderer.

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BADoglick posted...

I don't trust the government nor our justice system, nor should anyone else with half a brain, therefore we shouldn't support them having the power to administer irreversible capital punishment regardless of the severity of the crime in question

Keeping someone in a cage for the rest of their life with other violent people isn't really any more humane than simply executing them imo