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Lightning Strikes 12/12/20 6:02:32 PM #1: |
Crunch sucks and the marketing was perhaps more than borderline offensive, but I got this game anyway I guess. Post all your thoughts and questions here.
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redrocket 12/12/20 6:06:27 PM #2: |
Amazing 500 in the last topic.
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Lightning Strikes 12/12/20 6:13:55 PM #3: |
That might be the best SHINE post of all time.
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Xiahou Shake 12/12/20 6:14:46 PM #4: |
My only post in this topic before my 3080 arrives will be to say that SHINE's last post there was indeed god tier
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GANON1025 12/12/20 6:38:32 PM #5: |
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MoogleKupo141 12/12/20 8:05:54 PM #7: |
heres my pro tip: get two levels of the advanced data mine perk early. Then any time you find one of the terminal things you can jack into you can get like ~$1000 and theres a lot of those things around
now I used my vast fortune to purchase double jump legs and gorilla arms and I feel very cool. The added mobility of the legs has helped make the game feel a bit more distinct from just being Fallout in a city or whatever. It opens up more angles of approach in any encounter and just makes getting places generally a bit easier. just in general id say save all your money for cyber body stuff since its expensive and youre unlikely to just find it. Guns, armor, and healing items are everywhere constantly. --- For your Azuarc . At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sorozone 12/12/20 8:12:11 PM #8: |
Yeah advanced data mine level 2 was the first perk I got. Makes money not a problem. Definitely recommend and if you feel like you are scrounging by, especially in the early game.
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_stingers_ 12/12/20 8:14:35 PM #9: |
does anyone know the max level in this game?
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HeroDelTiempo17 12/12/20 8:31:36 PM #10: |
I just got to the title drop and opened up the world. So far I've been mostly speccing into the Cool pathway that gives killstreak bonuses, but I might start over with a new character because hacking seems to be the most interesting part of the gameplay so far. Not sure yet.
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Blue-G 12/13/20 11:08:25 AM #11: |
Marathoned through it this weekend, enjoyed it for the most part aside from the small glitches here and there. Almost all were visual and none that really caused anything more than a minor annoyance though so can't complain.
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Menji 12/13/20 12:33:34 PM #12: |
Is there a quick way to holster your weapon?
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MoogleKupo141 12/13/20 12:40:49 PM #13: |
double tap triangle, or whatever the switch weapon button is on your platform of choice
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MoogleKupo141 12/13/20 12:44:53 PM #14: |
Blue-G posted...
Marathoned through it this weekend, enjoyed it for the most part aside from the small glitches here and there. Almost all were visual and none that really caused anything more than a minor annoyance though so can't complain. did you just completely focus on the main storyline? Im 30 hours in and I dont think im halfway done with my playthrough, so finishing it in a weekend sounds crazy to me. --- For your Azuarc . At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lightning Strikes 12/13/20 12:48:19 PM #15: |
The main story seems surprisingly short. Only
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Blue-G 12/13/20 1:18:31 PM #16: |
Pretty much just did the main story and any sub quests that I happened to come directly across.
Was shorter than I expected, but not super short. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue-G 12/13/20 2:27:43 PM #18: |
Not at all, I kind of like that you can experience the story fairly streamlined without having to delve into a bunch of side stories and fluff.
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Lightning Strikes 12/13/20 2:39:10 PM #19: |
Its not bad, its just surprising. The Witcher 3 was really long, and the first two were quite a bit longer than this too.
In general this game seems much more open world Deus Ex than The Witcher, and the size is no different. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Waluigi1 12/13/20 4:59:47 PM #20: |
I just got Johnny stuck in my head.
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Shadow Dino 12/13/20 5:23:20 PM #21: |
Have people mainly been crafting ammo to get by? I'm kinda annoyed there's no real way to tell how much crafting a case of ammo gives you, but maybe I'm missing something.
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Sorozone 12/13/20 6:15:25 PM #22: |
Little less than 20 hours in, still loving it but the cracks are starting to show. The AI simply put is not good for really anything, civilians, enemies, important NPC's, vehicles, ect.
Snipers are also ridiculously good in this game especially with the level 2 perk of a 50% increase in damage for headshots when they don't know where you are. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GANON1025 12/13/20 6:50:50 PM #23: |
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Blue-G 12/13/20 7:46:31 PM #24: |
Upgraded to Mantis Arms and they're faster but do so much less damage than a decent katana. Charged attack on an unsuspecting enemy is pretty great though. Hopefully some way to upgrade their damage output otherwise sticking with swords.
Anyone take the throwing knives perk in stealth? Was hoping you'd be able to pick up your thrown knives but seems like they just vanish, making for some pricey ammo. An yeah, the AI overall feels pretty dated. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 12/13/20 8:40:46 PM #25: |
Shadow Dino posted...
Have people mainly been crafting ammo to get by? I'm kinda annoyed there's no real way to tell how much crafting a case of ammo gives you, but maybe I'm missing something. no, except for one time early on when I ran out of pistol ammo I havent had any ammo supply problems GANON1025 posted... Are fists considered blunt weapons? Yes --- For your Azuarc . At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue-G 12/13/20 9:07:00 PM #26: |
Shadow Dino posted...
Have people mainly been crafting ammo to get by? I crafted a lot of pistol ammo the first time through, ended up grabbing the auto scrapping perk to save some time. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 12/13/20 10:02:54 PM #27: |
The description for Gorilla Arms says theyre supposed to help you pry open doors, but they dont appear to actually do that
so thats a bummer as I play more of the game, im really enjoying it and its super impressive in some ways, but it also feels like it wasnt quite finished. Obviously games plan and cut content all the time, but theres stuff here where it seems like some cutting was done really late in development such that other stuff was designed with the expectation that the thing was there? I had one mission to stop a cyberpsycho, and to weaken her I was told I could jack into the network and do something to mess with her implants. When I jack in, it just gave me the exact same money hacks that are always there... so I do those, then it exits that screen and somehow doing the money hack weakened her? That cant be how they intended that, right? I feel like they cant have meant for all those jack-in spots to just be for money why are there even perks to extend the time you have for breaching? The clock doesnt start until you make your first move, so you have all the time in the world to plan. Ive never come anywhere near running out of time. also sometimes I do some technical ability thing with fuse boxes and I cant tell what its supposed to be accomplishing and then in the Badlands youre supposed to be fighting these people called the Raffen Shiv (?), but all of them are labeled Wraiths. Whats that about? and why doesnt Wakako care that Im constantly murdering members of her Tyger gang? also I think the radio is broken. it seems like almost every time Im in a car the stations are playing the same one song they always play. that just became a random list of grievances I really do like the game, I just keep having these moments where it feels like something is missing or wrong. --- For your Azuarc . At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 12/13/20 10:11:45 PM #28: |
oh but also I found a fun little reference to GTA San Andreas so the game is good
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Mac Arrowny 12/13/20 10:40:01 PM #29: |
How do you open locked doors
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HeroDelTiempo17 12/13/20 11:03:50 PM #30: |
MoogleKupo141 posted...
oh but also I found a fun little reference to GTA San Andreas so the game is good I found a talking gun that sings Disturbia by Rhianna so the game is very good --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 12/14/20 1:18:06 AM #31: |
Mac Arrowny posted...
How do you open locked doors A lot of the doors (maybe all of them?) labeled locked are just not actual doors so you can never open them. --- For your Azuarc . At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shadow Dino 12/14/20 3:23:32 AM #32: |
https://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1338390123373801472
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SazhAndFrocobo 12/14/20 3:48:51 AM #33: |
BAH GAWD
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Jakyl25 12/14/20 4:16:36 AM #34: |
That was more like the pedestrian gave the car an RKO out of nowhere
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Sorozone 12/14/20 9:37:28 AM #35: |
That's an amazing video.
Also, there is a lot of refences/Easter eggs in this game. -I came across Hideo Kojima -One of the gigs is named/referenced breaking bad(Gig itself is also very BB) -Glados references -Of course there are obvious Witcher 3 references every where -Spotted some bladerunner references --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HeroDelTiempo17 12/14/20 10:51:51 AM #36: |
Shadow Dino posted...
https://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1338390123373801472 Yeah...I'm on PC but I'm thinking about checking back after a patch or two. I haven't encountered any gamebreaking bugs but there were some annoying ones. One after a Johnny scene left the glitch effect on my screen for like an hour until I reloaded and realized it was just a bug and another in Jig-Jig Street that tanked my framerate until I reloaded. Which, the performance issues are a whole other thing, I'm generally happy with being able to get a consistent 50+ish frames in the open city but certain areas seem to tank it. --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeepsPraw 12/14/20 11:04:41 AM #37: |
Okay so I didn't play either game, but can someone tell me why Mass Effect Andromeda was completely pilloried and nearly tanked a franchise while CP2077 largely gets a pass despite its bugs and jank seeming to be a lot worse? Is it because it's not a sequel to a beloved series? Is it the years of hype and sunk cost fallacy?
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Lightning Strikes 12/14/20 11:11:05 AM #38: |
Andromeda was a bad game at its core. Also a lot less ambitious, and frankly some genres get more of a pass with regards to bugs. I am fairly sure that as reviewers experienced it though (ie on PC, usually on top-end machines), it was a much better experience than Andromeda. Now, the console version is a different story. Frankly they should have cancelled it.
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Drakeryn 12/14/20 11:46:00 AM #39: |
DeepsPraw posted...
Okay so I didn't play either game, but can someone tell me why Mass Effect Andromeda was completely pilloried and nearly tanked a franchise while CP2077 largely gets a pass despite its bugs and jank seeming to be a lot worse? Is it because it's not a sequel to a beloved series? Is it the years of hype and sunk cost fallacy? I don't think it gets a pass? At least most of the coverage I've seen online has been people making fun of the bugs and jank. --- another place and time, without a great divide, and we could be flying deadly high ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mac Arrowny 12/14/20 12:17:14 PM #40: |
People hate MEA for the bad story/characters, not the jank.
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Jakyl25 12/14/20 12:24:38 PM #41: |
But the jank was also incredible
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Blue-G 12/14/20 12:43:26 PM #42: |
All I remember from MEA was some hilarious walking animations and the horrifying eye textures.
I think why that backlash was worse is that as Mac mentioned it missed the mark on the story and characters which are the biggest points of that series for a lot of people. While CP77 has missed the mark in quite a few spots, it still nailed the world which was easily the biggest point for me. Would love to see the multiplayer (they still adding that?) allow you to create a non-V character so you don't have the plot forcing your character to be a certain type of person. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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andylt 12/14/20 12:49:54 PM #43: |
In addition to the game content itself, Mass Effect Andromeda also had the anti-woke crowd against it, and nobody blindly defends EA like many do CDPR. Bioware had already faded from golden boy status thanks to ME3, whereas CDPR was coming off of The Witcher 3. MEA was also never hyped up the way Cyberpunk has been, we saw like nothing of it until right before release so everybody was already very wary.
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Sorozone 12/14/20 1:11:36 PM #44: |
Plus the core game is great(first impressions anyway). Where ME:A was just boring.
I'll be doing more playthroughs once my initial one is complete just to see how big a difference some things make(in the story telling), but overall putting the glitches aside, it's fantastic outside of the AI, which is my personal biggest gripe about the game. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HeroDelTiempo17 12/14/20 1:18:14 PM #45: |
Personally I think Cyberpunk 2077 has had its backlash mitigated by at least delivering on its core promises. One thing I've noticed is that the people who didn't buy into the hype seem to mostly enjoy thr game despite the jank. To put it bluntly - Witcher 3 is not a great action game, it's got passable combat held up by the story, characters, writing, and overall world. And while I'm not too far in the plot that seems to largely be similar for 2077. I have a lot of criticisms but when it's firing on all cylinders it's pretty good at doing the things it wants to be doing.
I skipped Andromeda but I largely did so because of the consensus that they dropped the ball on these types of things that did matter, in addition to the technical issues and the game being hideous even despite those. --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeepsPraw 12/14/20 1:39:15 PM #46: |
Maybe I'm just immersing myself in negativity, but I've heard a lot of critics say the writing and quest design doesn't hold a candle to the Witcher
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Shadow Dino 12/14/20 1:57:38 PM #47: |
Writing has been okay early on for the main quests. The Gigs side quests are largely inconsequential which is kinda unfortunate, since they make up the bulk of the non Main Story content. Bloody Baron they are not.
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HeroDelTiempo17 12/14/20 2:00:19 PM #48: |
DeepsPraw posted...
Maybe I'm just immersing myself in negativity, but I've heard a lot of critics say the writing and quest design doesn't hold a candle to the Witcher It doesn't but "not as good as Witcher 3" leaves a ton of room for your writing to still be good --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HeroDelTiempo17 12/14/20 2:00:32 PM #49: |
DeepsPraw posted...
Maybe I'm just immersing myself in negativity, but I've heard a lot of critics say the writing and quest design doesn't hold a candle to the Witcher It doesn't but "not as good as Witcher 3" leaves a ton of room for your game's writing to still be good --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mac Arrowny 12/14/20 2:25:50 PM #50: |
Shadow Dino posted...
Writing has been okay early on for the main quests. The Gigs side quests are largely inconsequential which is kinda unfortunate, since they make up the bulk of the non Main Story content. Bloody Baron they are not. Uh, why compare gigs to Bloody Baron? BB was a main story quest. DeepsPraw posted... Maybe I'm just immersing myself in negativity, but I've heard a lot of critics say the writing and quest design doesn't hold a candle to the Witcher You haven't read any of the 90+ reviews then? It's got a whole lot of 'em. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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