Current Events > Time Stop or Teleportation Circle

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https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Time%20Stop#content

https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/teleportation-circle
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Well they both kind of suck tbh but it would take a year for teleport circle to be useful, so I guess time stop. There are definitely a bunch of other spells I would rather have.

Teleport would be completely useless for a year yeah but after that it would be very useful. It would become much better after each year too.

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Can i just have magic missle instead? I wanna be a shoto like Ken...Ryu is lame and can fuck off.

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i've never read the description before

"This spell ends if one of the Actions you use during this period, or any Effects that you create during this period, affects a creature other than you or an object being worn or carried by someone other than you."

so you can't use it to attack, what the hell is even the point, then?

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I don't get how Teleportation Circle works. Say I make a circle at home and then travel overseas and make a circle there... they will both remain active as long as I visit each one once per day for a year, and I can teleport between them to do this?

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ROBANN_88 posted...

i've never read the description before

"This spell ends if one of the Actions you use during this period, or any Effects that you create during this period, affects a creature other than you or an object being worn or carried by someone other than you."

so you can't use it to attack, what the hell is even the point, then?

Mostly just throwing a bunch of buffs on yourself or setting up damage over time spells.

ROBANN_88 posted...

i've never read the description before

"This spell ends if one of the Actions you use during this period, or any Effects that you create during this period, affects a creature other than you or an object being worn or carried by someone other than you."

so you can't use it to attack, what the hell is even the point, then?

I mean in a way you can. Time stop, knock someone on his ass, cast another time stop, etc.

Or...is there a significant cooldown?


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Dingydang166 posted...

Mostly just throwing a bunch of buffs on yourself or setting up damage over time spells.

Or to run a 1,000 feet away, or get one good hit in while they cant do anything then freeze time again unless there is a cool down.

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Mistere Man posted...

unless there is a cool down.

i mean, when you throw the punch, that's your action that turn and then the effect ends.

so you would have to wait until next turn to do it

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YugiNoob posted...

I mean in a way you can. Time stop, knock someone on his ass, cast another time stop, etc.

Or...is there a significant cooldown?

It is a 9th level spell so even a max level wizard can cast it once per long rest.

Mistere Man posted...

Or to run a 1,000 feet away, or get one good hit in while they cant do anything then freeze time again unless there is a cool down.

Best case scenario you get time stop for 30 seconds, but there is also a chance you only get a 12 second time stop. You aren't going to run very far.

Time stop would only last a maximum of 30 seconds, where as Teleportation Circle is a free hearth; I could rob a bank and teleport back home. Timestop wouldnt even give me enough to to rob a convenience store.

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Guys there's a million things a high level wizard can do during 30 seconds of time stop.

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Lokison posted...

Time stop would only last a maximum of 30 seconds, where as Teleportation Circle is a free hearth; I could rob a bank and teleport back home. Timestop wouldnt even give me enough to to rob a convenience store.

Not really. Circle takes an entire minute to cast, not only that but the portal would stay open for 6 seconds too. Pretty sure the cops would just tackle your ass long before you finish drawing the circle.

Ilishe posted...

Guys there's a million things a high level wizard can do during 30 seconds of time stop.

You're not a high level wizard tho.

Dingydang166 posted...

Not really. Circle takes an entire minute to cast, not only that but the portal would stay open for 6 seconds too. Pretty sure the cops would just tackle your ass long before you finish drawing the circle.

It takes more than a minute for cops to show up. Just lock yourself in the vault, get everything ready and teleport out.

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Lokison posted...

You're not a high level wizard tho.

It takes more than a minute for cops to show up. Just lock yourself in the vault, get everything ready and teleport out.

How the fuck are you getting into the vault. Most banks nowadays make it so not even the manager can get into vault.

Dingydang166 posted...

How the fuck are you getting into the vault. Most banks nowadays make it so not even the manager can get into vault.

Last I checked they were generally open during the day because otherwise all the money collected throughout the day is outside and vulnerable. And if I had to.. idk, make a full plan I'd do that.

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Sorry I thought it meant what Id like to have IRL since its asking which one Id love to have rather than which one is better in game. I know nothing about DnD.

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Teleportation

Dingydang166 posted...

Best case scenario you get time stop for 30 seconds, but there is also a chance you only get a 12 second time stop. You aren't going to run very far

Yeah I forgot the dice roll, I was just going on the if you go 1,000 feet away thing it listed.

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Teleport circle is probably far more useful realistically. What can your average pleb like us do with time stop?

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The material cost for the circle doesnt make it worth it if you have to spend 50 gp of material to cast it

I dont know how much 50 gp translates to USD precisely but youd have to spend 18,250 gp of material to make one permanent circle.

So 36,500 just for a pair to teleport between work/home or such. Even if 1 gp = $10, thats $365,000 so totally not worth the cost

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Why would you need a permanent circle?

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ROBANN_88 posted...

i've never read the description before

"This spell ends if one of the Actions you use during this period, or any Effects that you create during this period, affects a creature other than you or an object being worn or carried by someone other than you."

so you can't use it to attack, what the hell is even the point, then?

You can it just ends early.

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Anteaterking posted...

Why would you need a permanent circle?

Because no permanent ones exist already, so youd need to make at least 1 for it to be useful.

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Anteaterking posted...

Why would you need a permanent circle?

work

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uwnim posted...

Because no permanent ones exist already, so youd need to make at least 1 for it to be useful.

Oh my bad I misread that. I thought permanent just let you save a spell slot or something which isn't relevant when it's the only thing you can do.

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