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specialkid8 12/07/20 9:30:47 PM #1: |
Eight years after the Disney buyout and decades of it still being true before that, people still seem to be confused about this so I'm just here to remind you; the EU was never canon. So now we can finally all stop worrying about it. Please. Stop.
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Zikten 12/07/20 9:33:13 PM #2: |
I understand that, but it doesn't make it good to be so. There was some crazy stuff in the EU but also good stuff. they could have taken more aspects of the EU into the Disney Trilogy. I wish they had kept the original Solo kids for example.
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Phynaster 12/07/20 9:34:50 PM #3: |
Doing god's work
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rexcrk 12/07/20 9:35:29 PM #4: |
It does amaze me how little this is understood.
Maybe Id be more angery at Disney if I read more of the books (or took the ones Ive read more seriously) but to me, Star Wars was always all about the movies (and then.. shows, once Clone Wars became a thing). Thats not to say I didnt enjoy the old books, but I always thought it was strange how people saw them as canon instead of glorified fanfiction \_()_/ --- These pretzels are making me thirsty! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 12/07/20 9:35:41 PM #5: |
also Mara Jade. Luke had a wife and happy life. Disney made him into a lifelong virgin hermit
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specialkid8 12/07/20 9:39:37 PM #6: |
ZIkten, your word choice makes it look like you think the EU was canon. The EU was not canon.
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Damn_Underscore 12/07/20 9:40:41 PM #7: |
Disney buying Star Wars destroyed Star Wars video games and thereby destroyed Star Wars as a franchise
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Darmik 12/07/20 9:40:55 PM #8: |
Yeah it's funny that people care so much. The whole 'technically this is canon but it'll never be acknowledged in any movies and if something in the movies contradicts it the movies are right' thing just makes it all so meaningless.
There's a lot Disney doesn't do right but overall they've done a much better job trying to make the EU material actually matter. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phynaster 12/07/20 9:42:07 PM #9: |
Damn_Underscore posted...
Disney buying Star Wars destroyed Star Wars video games and thereby destroyed Star Wars as a franchiseFallen Order and Squadrons don't exist eh? --- Rebel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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specialkid8 12/07/20 9:42:44 PM #10: |
Damn_Underscore posted...
Disney buying Star Wars destroyed Star Wars video games and thereby destroyed Star Wars as a franchiseI think you mean EA getting exclusive rights destroyed Star Wars video games. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Damn_Underscore 12/07/20 9:44:29 PM #11: |
specialkid8 posted...
I think you mean EA getting exclusive rights destroyed Star Wars video games. Disney only cares about their bottom line which directly resulted in that. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 12/07/20 9:45:36 PM #12: |
Star Wars games were sucking long before Disney bought them out.
Do people forget that Battlefront became a PSP exclusive franchise --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Inigo 12/07/20 9:46:46 PM #13: |
Yeah they've always been fanfic you can buy
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lightwarrior78 12/07/20 9:55:14 PM #14: |
It was "canon until contradicted, and nothing is going to come along to contradict it". Then something did and well, people are going to pick the path they found more entertaining or of higher quality. ie: my miggest beef with Solo was we already had a much better Han origin story.
Hell, we're at a time where even movies can be retroacrtively said not to have happened, from Superman Returns ignoring 3 and 4, to Terminator Dark Fate, or everything is nebulous. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phynaster 12/07/20 10:14:45 PM #15: |
lightwarrior78 posted...
It was "canon until contradictedNope. --- Rebel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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specialkid8 12/07/20 10:56:29 PM #16: |
^This guy. This guys gets it.
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monkmith 12/07/20 11:00:28 PM #17: |
i'm fine with that. means the shit decisions disney have made since they bought the IP dont effect the stories i grew up reading.
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Blightzkrieg 12/07/20 11:06:26 PM #18: |
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DarthAragorn 12/07/20 11:08:40 PM #19: |
Blightzkrieg posted...
If you miss Luuke Skywalker you shouldn't be taken seriously Still a better sequel than the sequels ... Copied to Clipboard!
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marthsheretoo 12/07/20 11:11:32 PM #20: |
Fuck off I liked Luuke Skywalker.
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DarthAragorn 12/07/20 11:18:04 PM #21: |
That was also a way better explanation of the lightsaber than "a story for another time"
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Lokison 12/07/20 11:24:49 PM #22: |
I wish Boba getting his hands on lightsabers and using them was canon, was cool af. Oh well.
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Hayame Zero 12/07/20 11:38:03 PM #23: |
What was crazy about it to me was how airtight the lore was. Even considering most the quality was just glorified fanfiction, it didn't have any plot contradictions with the other works.
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Phynaster 12/08/20 1:10:19 AM #24: |
Hayame Zero posted...
What was crazy about it to me was how airtight the lore was. Even considering most the quality was just glorified fanfiction, it didn't have any plot contradictions with the other works....This is a joke right --- Rebel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ving_Rhames 12/08/20 1:10:59 AM #25: |
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specialkid8 12/08/20 4:47:35 PM #26: |
The Force Unleashed is the only piece of media that was decanonized by Disney.
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DarthAragorn 12/08/20 4:49:07 PM #27: |
EU bad disney gud
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Crazyman93 12/08/20 4:52:54 PM #28: |
Such a lazy troll topic, but of course ce can't help but bite.
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specialkid8 12/08/20 5:43:27 PM #29: |
How is this a troll topic? I'm being slightly passive aggressive because confrontation is the only means of communication CE responds to but there is no misinformation in here.
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Crazyman93 12/08/20 5:52:31 PM #30: |
specialkid8 posted...
How is this a troll topic? specialkid8 posted... I'm being slightly passive aggressive --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AzurexNightmare 12/08/20 6:16:24 PM #31: |
specialkid8 posted...
The Force Unleashed is the only piece of media that was decanonized by Disney.They also decanonized Star Wars kid --- Latest Game Completed 100% Resident Evil VII ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Compsognathus 12/08/20 6:22:40 PM #32: |
While there were undoubtedly good stories to come out of the old EU, taken as a whole it was pretty bad and Disney was 100% right to formally decanonize it. That said, I wish some Star Wars fans could accept that there were good old EU stories and that there is obviously going to be upset about them losing whatever lettered-canon status they had previously had, but instead people come out aggressively antagonistic over the whole thing.
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dave_is_slick 12/08/20 6:23:18 PM #33: |
Not a single source. Why should I believe you?
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specialkid8 12/08/20 6:40:18 PM #34: |
dave_is_slick posted...
Not a single source. Why should I believe you?George Lucas has talked about it multiple times over several decades. https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsCantina/comments/9m4ggk/george_lucas_on_the_expanded_universe_thats_a/ If you want a more concrete source you can dig through links. Google comes up with a bunch of interviews and quotes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Background_Guy 12/08/20 6:44:06 PM #35: |
The Holocron continuity database was an internal database maintained by Lucas Licensing for the express purpose of trying to maintain continuity within all licensed products, prior to the April 2014 declaration of a single official canon. This Holocron was sorted into five levels of canon that reflected LFL's canon and continuity policies: G, T, C, S, and N. G, T, C, and S together formed an overall continuity that was considered by Lucasfilm to be the "true" Star Wars canon prior to the decanonization of the Expanded Universe.
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Zack_Attackv1 12/08/20 6:44:38 PM #36: |
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rexcrk 12/08/20 8:33:54 PM #37: |
I remember when people had meltdowns over The Clone Wars stepping on established lord.
Its funny how this stuff is hated at first and then becomes beloved. Star Wars definitely has one of the oddest fanbases --- These pretzels are making me thirsty! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kelystic 12/08/20 8:38:38 PM #38: |
"is no longer canon" is the more accurate term.
Quinlan Vos made a name drop cameo in Revenge. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JumpstyIe 12/08/20 8:58:08 PM #39: |
Background_Guy posted...
came in to post this as the proof that TC was wrong, thanks --- What the **** is Jumpstyle? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phynaster 12/08/20 8:59:12 PM #40: |
Kelystic posted...
"is no longer canon" is the more accurate term.??? Vos has been in lots of canon material so not sure what point youre making --- Rebel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blightzkrieg 12/08/20 9:48:39 PM #41: |
rexcrk posted...
I remember when people had meltdowns over The Clone Wars stepping on established lord.Yeah, people ignore that before Disney purchased Star Wars, TCW fucking slaughtered a decade of older Clone Wars lore. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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specialkid8 12/08/20 9:55:52 PM #42: |
JumpstyIe posted...
came in to post this as the proof that TC was wrong, thanks An internal database used by a licensing company to keep track of the stories they were publishing is not proof of anything. Especially since it's just a long winded gobbledygook way of saying "Canon and not canon". George Lucas is literally the God of Star Wars and his word was law until Disney's was. He said it wasn't canon. Who are we to question the word of the Lord? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ryuko_Chan 12/08/20 11:14:11 PM #43: |
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Crazyman93 12/09/20 9:06:01 PM #44: |
rexcrk posted...
I remember when people had meltdowns over The Clone Wars stepping on established lord.If you mean the CGI series, the only real issue I took with it was them making the battle droids talk. Since A) Lore DID say they were all slaved to a master computer, and B) there's no reason for a battle droid meant for mass unit service to have a personality. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blightzkrieg 12/09/20 9:21:15 PM #45: |
Crazyman93 posted...
If you mean the CGI series, the only real issue I took with it was them making the battle droids talk. Since A) Lore DID say they were all slaved to a master computer, and B) there's no reason for a battle droid meant for mass unit service to have a personality.They did in RotS though, this wasn't new. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 12/10/20 10:33:06 AM #46: |
Blightzkrieg posted...
Yeah, people ignore that before Disney purchased Star Wars, TCW fucking slaughtered a decade of older Clone Wars lore.Ive just never seen a fanbase go to such lengths to be a n g e r y all the time. But the funny thing to me is how pick-and-choose-y they are. Like, the beginning of The Force Awakens takes place on a desert planet and people lost their minds because its too similar to the original but then on The Mandalorian they literally go to Tatooine in the same cantina and its yasss callbacks! Not to mention when the prequels were coming out, George Lucas might as well have murdered peoples families based on the vitriolic hate those movies got, and now theyre loved??? And when The Clone Wars first came out people hated that too because it de-canonized the 2D show as well as some of the EU stories. As someone who generally likes it all and always has, its very amusing --- These pretzels are making me thirsty! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hippocrates 12/10/20 10:37:17 AM #47: |
Who cares about star wars canon lol
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Crazyman93 12/10/20 4:11:14 PM #48: |
rexcrk posted...
There was an entire EU series where this happened. Frankly it was sort of dumb there too. Complete with cloning issues because the dark side accelerates clone aging even more, or something. rexcrk posted... Also something they took from the pre-Disney EU. It was well liked there and given a suitable explanation as well. Basically "Armor make Boba not get digested." Somehow. Anyway, Boba Fett was always far more popular than his role in the movies can justify. rexcrk posted... Not to mention when the prequels were coming out, George Lucas might as well have murdered peoples families based on the vitriolic hate those movies got, and now theyre loved???This could be because younger fans saw the prequels and didn't get all bent out of shape. I never really hated the prequels, but then again, I was in Kindergarten when Phantom Menace came out. The main bitching point I always heard was "Midichlorines!" I guess because it took their magic and applied almost science. But now everyone hates the ST so much the PT looks good by comparison to them, or this younger generation of fans is reacting the same way the older generation did to the prequels, which just means history repeats. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gamerguymass 12/10/20 4:24:33 PM #49: |
Pretty sure I posted in last year's topic letting you know you are wrong. The fact that you continue to post this just means you are willfully ignorant. The EU was authorized by George Lucas himself. He even used stuff from it in the movies and TV shows.
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Webbernet 12/10/20 4:29:02 PM #50: |
You can worry about canon or just enjoy a book you like. It's all fiction anyway, worrying about which fiction is more true is just going to stress you out. :)
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