Current Events > Yearly reminder: The Star Wars EU was never canon.

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Gamerguymass posted...

Pretty sure I posted in last year's topic letting you know you are wrong. The fact that you continue to post this just means you are willfully ignorant. The EU was authorized by George Lucas himself. He even used stuff from it in the movies and TV shows.

You throwing a temper tantrum about this doesn't change reality.

Who's throwing a tantrum? Why do people get so defensive and testy about this? It's a simple Google search away and yet people hold onto this just so they can be spiteful at Disney for clarifying the fact. Let go of your hate.

Crazyman93 posted...

If you mean the CGI series, the only real issue I took with it was them making the battle droids talk. Since A) Lore DID say they were all slaved to a master computer, and B) there's no reason for a battle droid meant for mass unit service to have a personality.

IIRC the current lore was that the master computer system was largely done away with after the incident on Naboo. Battle droids after that were shitty AI. But I think this came in to explain the comic relief droids in 3 in some fact book, and the show references it.

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Gamerguymass posted...

Pretty sure I posted in last year's topic letting you know you are wrong. The fact that you continue to post this just means you are willfully ignorant. The EU was authorized by George Lucas himself. He even used stuff from it in the movies and TV shows.

You throwing a temper tantrum about this doesn't change reality.

The EU elements were only canon if the official canon meterial didn't contradict it. And the movies, the clone wars TV show were fine with contradicting EU elements.

Basically it was canon until stated otherwise.


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creativerealms posted...

Basically it was canon until stated otherwise.

This. I don't know how to break it to this topic, but none of Star Wars actually happened.

For the old EU it was always just "levels" of canon.

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Reminder: canon is a meme. Its a worthless designator when applied to fiction.

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This is some piss poor trolling, and you people always feed it.

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creativerealms posted...

The EU elements were only canon if the official canon meterial didn't contradict it. And the movies, the clone wars TV show were fine with contradicting EU elements.

Basically it was canon until stated otherwise.

I'm aware. The point I was making is that it was official since George Lucas himself would be informed of the stories and sign off on them. He obviously paid some sort of attention to it as well considering he used various bits of it himself. Hell, he even outright said if he had continued with Star Wars Timothy Zahn's books are how the story would have gone. Not to mention the EU is the reason why anyone even gives a damn about Star Wars in the first place. If there was never any books or video games then Star Wars would just be 'that old sci-fi movie from the 70s.'

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Lucasart's disclaimer about the EU was that it was secondary canon that they could, and often did, completely ignore. It was basically officially licensed fanfiction that they occassionally took a thing or two out of to the main stage. It was never actual canon.

And I read shit loads of the books growing up.

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Disney should have adapted the EU, but I think they didn't want to pay royalties to the writers.

It is worth noting that while the Thrawn trilogy is rightly considered the best of the EU and so far has been the most borrowed from in New Disney Canon, it had a lot of its own things decanonized well before then by the prequels. Mostly because Zahn had very little to work with backstory-wise. So things like Vader's age, the entirety of what the Clone Wars was, and stuff like what even a Sith is was just wrong.

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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...

Disney should have adapted the EU, but I think they didn't want to pay royalties to the writers.

I'm almost positive that, as part of the licensing agreement, the authors of the EU books basically signed their rights away for Lucas to do with as they pleased with limited compensation beyond their earnings from book sales. After all, EU exclusive characters, species, planets, and factions created by specific authors appeared in works by other authors without issue.

The bigger issue Disney would've been to hunt and peck around the deluge of garbage to save the few good things, so they (in my opinion) rightly just flushed it all down and invited a select few creators to re-adapt their works while starting fresh.

We all remember the parts that were great or even good, but there were loads of just utter garbage in there. And thank God they didn't try to do anything with the Yuuzhang Vong or however they were spelled.

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K181 posted...

I'm almost positive that, as part of the licensing agreement, the authors of the EU books basically signed their rights away for Lucas to do with as they pleased with limited compensation beyond their earnings from book sales. After all, EU exclusive characters, species, planets, and factions created by specific authors appeared in works by other authors without issue.

The bigger issue Disney would've been to hunt and peck around the deluge of garbage to save the few good things, so they (in my opinion) rightly just flushed it all down and invited a select few creators to re-adapt their works while starting fresh.

We all remember the parts that were great or even good, but there were loads of just utter garbage in there. And thank God they didn't try to do anything with the Yuuzhang Vong or however they were spelled.

I wanted the Sequel Trilogy to be a soft sequel to the Expanded Universe and a hard sequel to the main trilogies. This provides use of characters such as Jaina Fel, Ben Skywalker, and Allana Solo in VII VIII IX while allowing room to revisit (tweak, if necessary) the EU era that that took place in between OT and ST.

Jabodie posted...

IIRC the current lore was that the master computer system was largely done away with after the incident on Naboo. Battle droids after that were shitty AI. But I think this came in to explain the comic relief droids in 3 in some fact book, and the show references it.

Good enough for me. *shrug*

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