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UshiromiyaEva
11/21/20 12:48:28 PM
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Jakyl25
11/21/20 12:48:55 PM
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Jakyl25
11/21/20 12:57:40 PM
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1330139233470844928?s=21

Given the level of truth to most of Trumps tweets, this bodes pretty poorly for Jr
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GuessMyUserName
11/21/20 1:16:45 PM
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MyPillow Mike and Ricky Schroder bail out the Kenosha Terrorist

america is such a fucked up place

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LinkMarioSamus
11/21/20 1:17:25 PM
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The same person on YT I got into an argument with said "the only data that projected Biden to win the election were the same polls that were wrong in 2016". My goodness this logic sounds so dumb writing it out.

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StartTheMachine
11/21/20 1:19:29 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Fucking mobile ads caused me to accidentally delete my post about people on the right coming after Tucker. Bleh

Anyway this is maybe the biggest joke of them all

https://twitter.com/ap/status/1329945633218813955?s=21

*Tidus laugh intensifies*

I...cannot wrap my mind around the fact that this is real

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UshiromiyaEva
11/21/20 1:19:47 PM
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GuessMyUserName posted...
MyPillow Mike and Ricky Schroder bail out the Kenosha Terrorist

america is such a fucked up place

Ricky Schroder's Twitter has been wiped clean with only one tweet remaining: Moving to Parler.

Which he did, BTW, right BEFORE bailing out the murderering racist domestic terrorist.

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Kinglicious
11/21/20 1:22:10 PM
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Cuomo deserves that award.
Nobody in 2020 was a better actor in a made for TV drama.

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GuessMyUserName
11/21/20 1:26:20 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
Ricky Schroder's Twitter has been wiped clean with only one tweet remaining: Moving to Parler.

Which he did, BTW, right BEFORE bailing out the murderering racist domestic terrorist.
funding domestic terrorists needs a safe space you see

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masterplum
11/21/20 1:46:15 PM
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Peace___Frog
11/21/20 2:15:27 PM
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I refuse to give fox news a click, if you want to discuss it then transcribe whatever blurb you find relevant

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Jakyl25
11/21/20 2:24:47 PM
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Its this sort of stuff

But she never sent us any evidence, despite a lot of polite requests. When we kept pressing, she got angry and told us to stop contacting her. When we checked with others around the Trump campaign, people in positions of authority, they also told us Powell had never given them any evidence to prove anything she claimed at the press conference.


The kind of stuff that has now gotten Tucker targeted by the farther right

This sort of message is very telling though when presented in tandem:
Maybe Sidney Powell will come forward soon with details on exactly how this happened and precisely who did it. We are certainly hopeful that she will.


Elections aren't merely "central to democracy", elections are democracy. Voting is the way the public expresses its will. It's all people have. If elections don't work, our entire system doesn't work.


Hes rooting for, in his own words, the entire system to be broken. Presumably because he prefers Trump
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Wanglicious
11/21/20 3:05:31 PM
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tucker's hedging his bets a bit, was clearer on the next day's clip of this stuff when he probably felt some of the pressure and pulled back a bit. and yes, he'll make clear that he hopes Sidney Powell has good, clear details that would unveil what, in his words, would be the greatest crime that occurred in the country. at the same time he says that, he's critical of it and says that he hasn't seen any evidence, nobody he's contacted - including those connected to trump - have seen any evidence, that as far as he knows nobody has seen anything she has to offer. not that it doesn't exist, but there's nothing there.

way i see it, he thinks it's bullshit and was going in on it that way, but had to ultimately pull back because he can't lose the audience either. so instead he'll stick with an easy claim: if you're raising a big stink about something that would turn everything upside down you'd better have your shit together and be right, otherwise you're going to get dunked on and ruined by everyone, including Fox.

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LinkMarioSamus
11/21/20 3:13:45 PM
#64:


Trump has like, a tenth of a percent of a chance to overturn the election results. This will resolve itself sooner or later.

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Corrik7
11/21/20 3:16:10 PM
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I know one thing. After the Arizona and calling the election fiasco, I am a bit skeptical of some of the networks that refused to call things because they thought it would call the election despite their analysis.

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Jakyl25
11/21/20 3:17:01 PM
#66:


Wanglicious posted...
tucker's hedging his bets a bit, was clearer on the next day's clip of this stuff when he probably felt some of the pressure and pulled back a bit. and yes, he'll make clear that he hopes Sidney Powell has good, clear details that would unveil what, in his words, would be the greatest crime that occurred in the country. at the same time he says that, he's critical of it and says that he hasn't seen any evidence, nobody he's contacted - including those connected to trump - have seen any evidence, that as far as he knows nobody has seen anything she has to offer. not that it doesn't exist, but there's nothing there.

way i see it, he thinks it's bullshit and was going in on it that way, but had to ultimately pull back because he can't lose the audience either. so instead he'll stick with an easy claim: if you're raising a big stink about something that would turn everything upside down you'd better have your shit together and be right, otherwise you're going to get dunked on and ruined by everyone, including Fox.


Its almost like his entire show is an attempt to carve out the most lucrative political niche he can find
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Jakyl25
11/21/20 3:18:25 PM
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Corrik7 posted...
I know one thing


Thank you for the honesty
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Yesmar_
11/21/20 3:19:26 PM
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Man, this will really put a damper on Ricky Schroeder's car-

Oh wait, never mind!

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Wanglicious
11/21/20 3:21:02 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Its almost like his entire show is an attempt to carve out the most lucrative political niche he can find

i mean that's basically all the shows and all the networks in a nutshell. or just plain what news is these days, though for legal reasons they'll all go with the opinion defense.

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Jakyl25
11/21/20 3:22:05 PM
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Wanglicious posted...


i mean that's basically all the shows and all the networks in a nutshell. or just plain what news is these days, though for legal reasons they'll all go with the opinion defense.


Well yes, thats why no one should watch any of them on any sort of loyal basis
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Wanglicious
11/21/20 3:26:08 PM
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ideally yeah but reality is news/networks developed to opinions and personality because it draws loyal customers.

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red sox 777
11/21/20 3:28:09 PM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Lmao Trump isn't even sure if his made up voter fraud is enough to make Kelly Loeffler win

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1329871775707107335

Kelly Loeffler was in a race with a bazillion candidates and didn't even clear 30%. She wouldn't get to 50% if 100% of votes for the first place candidate were thrown out.

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Jakyl25
11/21/20 3:30:32 PM
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Wanglicious posted...
ideally yeah but reality is news/networks developed to opinions and personality because it draws loyal customers.


Which is why its important to shit on them at every opportunity
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Wanglicious
11/21/20 3:34:59 PM
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signature stuff is so one of those things that i'm tired of reading about. not a single person uses the same signature from when they were 18 or whatever. people change what they write and frankly nobody uses a proper signature anymore, it's initials and a scribble at best. if signature verification was a proper thing we wouldn't have a goddamn vote. you want security like that, fine, argue for fingerprints. but i'm tired of fucking signatures being a thing in these arguments.

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Corrik7
11/21/20 3:37:49 PM
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https://www.businessinsider.com/obama-says-couldnt-look-soft-terrorism-as-a-liberal-president-2020-11

This is the kind of phony revisionist after the fact shit I hate. You did what you had to in order to protect our nation. You don't have to justify and state you didn't really want to do something but your hands were tied.

Does he not know that saying "I felt I had to kill people to not look weak on terrorism" is just as bad as "we made the cages but didn't use them because we were worried what the media would say".

Like, it makes him sound like he was weak, ineffective and cared more about image than actually his job as head of government.

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HeroDelTiempo17
11/21/20 3:41:41 PM
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Corrik is right, Obama should just own being a war criminal instead of this weak shit

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Wanglicious
11/21/20 3:42:42 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Which is why its important to shit on them at every opportunity

eh, most are just some fun so i don't go that far. just don't treat 'em like dogma and instead treat them like shows with some news in them. what's the difference between Tucker, Hannity, Jon Stewart back in the 00s, Crowder, Maddow, TYT, etc? the host personality, the opinion bend, and not much else. and this ain't really all that different from the more "news" segments these days either because those have largely gone opinion too. so i wouldn't shit on 'em that much, just don't fall for complete loyalty to a person, channel, or network.

unless you mean shitting on the person who completely falls for a single person/channel/network.
i'm probably down for that.

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Jakyl25
11/21/20 3:46:27 PM
#78:


Wanglicious posted...
what's the difference between Tucker, Hannity, Jon Stewart back in the 00s, Crowder, Maddow, TYT, etc?


Their levels of influence

The amount of people that got their news from The Daily Show is ridiculous
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xp1337
11/21/20 3:47:13 PM
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Corrik is right, Obama should just own being a war criminal instead of this weak shit
Yeah, Obama's drone defense was really weak. I mean, there's no way to spin that shit positively but that was pretty damn weak.

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Jakyl25
11/21/20 3:49:20 PM
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Corrik7 posted...
https://www.businessinsider.com/obama-says-couldnt-look-soft-terrorism-as-a-liberal-president-2020-11

This is the kind of phony revisionist after the fact shit I hate. You did what you had to in order to protect our nation. You don't have to justify and state you didn't really want to do something but your hands were tied.

Does he not know that saying "I felt I had to kill people to not look weak on terrorism" is just as bad as "we made the cages but didn't use them because we were worried what the media would say".

Like, it makes him sound like he was weak, ineffective and cared more about image than actually his job as head of government.


Obama said his first chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, was "obsessed" with keeping track of what was essentially a kill list, or a list of top terrorist targets.


Hey guess whos in consideration to be part of Bidens cabinet guys??
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Kinglicious
11/21/20 3:50:00 PM
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All of those are pretty influential, roughly the same ballpark i thought. But maybe I underestimate Jon. Still the best warning sign of what news had become but nobody stopped it.

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kevwaffles
11/21/20 3:50:40 PM
#82:


Wanglicious posted...
what's the difference between Tucker, Hannity, Jon Stewart back in the 00s, Crowder, Maddow, TYT, etc?
One of these things was on Comedy Central with the advertisement slogan of "Where more people get their news than probably should!"

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Jakyl25
11/21/20 3:52:49 PM
#83:


Kinglicious posted...
All of those are pretty influential, roughly the same ballpark i thought. But maybe I underestimate Jon. Still the best warning sign of what news had become but nobody stopped it.


I would definitely put Hannity, Tucker, and Stewart on a higher tier than the rest
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Corrik7
11/21/20 4:37:26 PM
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https://www.newsweek.com/georgia-trump-supporters-destroy-gop-boycott-senate-runoffs-1549245

Lol... it's like trusting conspiracy theorists as your base isn't a good idea when you are part of the government!

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HashtagSEP
11/21/20 4:56:02 PM
#85:


https://twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1330218328225353735

Its a bold strategy, Cotton. Lets see if it pays off for em.

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Wanglicious
11/21/20 5:21:46 PM
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they'll fall in line, like they always do. until there's results saying otherwise it's just empty rhetoric.

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StealThisSheen
11/21/20 5:22:40 PM
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To add on to my last post

https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1330079395483164673

oh no

please

stop

we wouldn't want thaaat

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UshiromiyaEva
11/21/20 5:28:12 PM
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red13n
11/21/20 5:43:15 PM
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Wanglicious posted...
they'll fall in line, like they always do. until there's results saying otherwise it's just empty rhetoric.

Not necessarily. Trump brought in a bunch of new voters. Many of these are voters that have in the past been likely to stay home.

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red13n
11/21/20 5:44:00 PM
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Don't confuse this with me thinking the Republicans are going to lose those seats. Because they probably wont.

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LordoftheMorons
11/21/20 6:26:05 PM
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https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1330290542375292930

Tbf "without merit" is kinda the theme of Trump's entire presidency

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LordoftheMorons
11/21/20 6:33:07 PM
#92:


https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1330290019689435143

Why was the Trump campaign even allowed to pay for a partial recount rather than a full recount in WI? Afaik a partial recount is not supposed to be a thing.

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Jesse_Custer
11/21/20 6:37:51 PM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1330290542375292930


The courts should really consider imposing sanctions for frivolous conduct at this point.
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xp1337
11/21/20 6:44:10 PM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Why was the Trump campaign even allowed to pay for a partial recount rather than a full recount in WI? Afaik a partial recount is not supposed to be a thing.
Varies by state. 28 + DC allow candidates to request partial recounts.

https://ballotpedia.org/Election_recount_laws_and_procedures_in_the_50_states,_2020

Third table (the one about who pays for a requested recount) has a column showing which ones.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/21/20 6:49:56 PM
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At least one Trump observer was escorted out of the building by sheriffs deputies Saturday after pushing an election official who had lifted her coat from an observer chair.

So these are goons, not observors.

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kevwaffles
11/21/20 7:10:02 PM
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Hired goons?
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Runemistress
11/21/20 7:15:29 PM
#97:


https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2020/11/Order-Granting-MTD.pdf

Rudy's case dismissed with prejudice. Not a surprising result in the slightest. It was an absurd circus run by an even more absurd clown. They've been trying to win the court of public opinion, rather than in a court of law. They'll convince only the most hardcore of Trump supporters I suspect, as the rest of the public moves on with their lives.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/21/20 7:26:05 PM
#98:


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1330278689200857088?s=19

According to reports Trump did not actually attend this event and instead went golfing.

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StartTheMachine
11/21/20 7:33:16 PM
#99:


For people trying to blame Jon Stewart's Daily Show for the way news became opinion oriented:

https://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5

Reminder that Daily Show viewers were way more informed of the going ons in politics than actual cable news viewers. The opinion journalism had been going for quite a while by that time.

But if you really want to trace the roots of the issue, it's on Reagan for allowing the centralizing of network ownership.

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StartTheMachine
11/21/20 7:34:43 PM
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Also somehow I never saw this and it's probably been commented on before, but this is the most baffling story I've ever seen:

https://youtu.be/WicsWfTm1ZI

people literally dying of Covid still believe it's a hoax

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