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teepan95 11/18/20 12:19:21 AM #1: |
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Some pharmaceutical companies have received criticism for engaging in illegal activities, such as providing kickbacks and bribes, knowingly shipping adulterated or contaminated drugs to pharmacies, and marketing drugs for unapproved uses. This study examined financial penalties for illegal activities among large pharmaceutical firms in relation to annual revenues. Original OP: https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-11/uonc-fpi111720.php Among 26 [pharmaceutical] firms in our sample, 22 (85%) had financial penalties for illegal activities. --- teep dumb as f*** fr - BatmanvonDoom I'm gonna pound a 400 lb woman just to prove teep wrong - NigerianKnight ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KainWind 11/18/20 12:21:19 AM #2: |
Were those that paid the most fines the most successful overall? If so, they should probably consider a different penalty because they clearly don't care anyway.
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pogo_rabid 11/18/20 12:22:11 AM #3: |
What illegal shit did they do exactly? Is it cool illegal shit like making battle androids?
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teepan95 11/18/20 12:24:33 AM #4: |
From Reddit:
Merck accused of stonewalling in mumps vaccine antitrust lawsuit https://www.reuters.com/article/health-vaccine-idUSL1N0YQ0W820150604 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lost_All_Senses 11/18/20 12:24:56 AM #5: |
pogo_rabid posted...
What illegal shit did they do exactly? Is it cool illegal shit like making battle androids? They get frogs high on adderall and make them solve math problems --- Name checks out "Try to talk and they ain't listening, but they'll point it out when you get ignorant" - Dreezy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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teepan95 11/18/20 12:26:34 AM #6: |
tl;dr:
Some pharmaceutical companies have received criticism for engaging in illegal activities, such as providing kickbacks and bribes, knowingly shipping adulterated or contaminated drugs to pharmacies, and marketing drugs for unapproved uses. This study examined financial penalties for illegal activities among large pharmaceutical firms in relation to annual revenues. --- teep dumb as f*** fr - BatmanvonDoom I'm gonna pound a 400 lb woman just to prove teep wrong - NigerianKnight ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pogo_rabid 11/18/20 12:27:02 AM #7: |
Lost_All_Senses posted...
They get frogs high on adderall and make them solve math problemslame, fine em for being uninteresting in their illegality. --- Ryzen 3800x @ 4.3, 32 gig @ 4000, 1070ti, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E FC: SW-8431-3263-1243 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dreepapult 11/18/20 12:35:07 AM #8: |
I worked for a CRO
So not directly for a pharma company But we worked for some of the big dogs Yeah. Pharma is evil as fuck --- Entropy happens ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MorbidFaithless 11/18/20 12:40:21 AM #9: |
Something as vital as medicine shouldn't be held in the hands of private companies.
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Dreepapult 11/18/20 12:52:47 AM #10: |
Like for example when Mylan was getting in hot water for exorbitantly raising the price of the epipen. We were working for them at the time.
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Dreepapult 11/18/20 12:53:03 AM #11: |
Felt like we worked for the devil himself
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Solid Snake07 11/18/20 1:04:11 AM #12: |
MorbidFaithless posted...
Something as vital as medicine shouldn't be held in the hands of private companies. I don't see the government as any more deserving of trust --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_SilverX 11/18/20 1:15:35 AM #13: |
Big Pharma is daddy. They can do as they please.
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MorbidFaithless 11/18/20 1:28:44 AM #14: |
Solid Snake07 posted...
I don't see the government as any more deserving of trustSo we accept abject failure. --- walk like thunder ... Copied to Clipboard!
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teepan95 11/18/20 3:38:23 AM #15: |
Solid Snake07 posted...
MorbidFaithless posted...Something as vital as medicine shouldn't be held in the hands of private companies. The government doesn't at least try to maximise profits --- teep dumb as f*** fr - BatmanvonDoom I'm gonna pound a 400 lb woman just to prove teep wrong - NigerianKnight ... Copied to Clipboard!
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teepan95 11/18/20 1:56:42 PM #16: |
Bump
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pikachupwnage 11/18/20 2:11:08 PM #17: |
KainWind posted...
Were those that paid the most fines the most successful overall? If so, they should probably consider a different penalty because they clearly don't care anyway. Prison time for those responsible, every shareholder(individual, company, fund etc.) with more 1% or more in shares(subsidiaries or similar entities are grouped with their parent group) is also fined up to a maximum of the value of share at time of purchase, current value or the share of the companies revenue equivalent to their share of the stock owned during the period (s)in which the offenses were committed whichever is greater and the ones responsible must be fired. Also the fines on those responsible are equal(or greater) to however much they earned in their time at the company in addition to any existing fees and new minimum fees based on the particular offenses. Finally any related medical patents, or products become public domain(albeit subject to reasonable safety regulations and such if needed) So if you commit significant or related violations laws related to insulin for example boom all patents, trademarks etc, related to your insulin products immediately become public domain, your CEO is fired, fined to oblivion and rots in prison for several years(or life) the big shareholders are fined, and the company loses valuable IP. Or something along these lines that punishes the company, the heads of the company and the major beneficiaries. --- My Mario Maker 2 Maker ID is J2K-RFD-K4G Even In sigs FOE! http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dreepapult 11/18/20 2:23:03 PM #18: |
pikachupwnage posted...
Prison time for those responsible, every shareholder(individual, company, fund etc.) with more 1% or more in shares(subsidiaries or similar entities are grouped with their parent group) is also fined up to a maximum of the value of share at time of purchase, current value or the share of the companies revenue equivalent to their share of the stock owned during the period (s)in which the offenses were committed whichever is greater and the ones responsible must be fired.Any politician that introduced that legislation would be silenced. One way or another. --- Entropy happens ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dreepapult 11/18/20 2:23:23 PM #19: |
But I agree completely
Fucking evil bastards --- Entropy happens ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 11/18/20 2:27:11 PM #20: |
https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/the-code-im-still-ashamed-of-e4c021dff55e/
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MaddenDude-- 11/18/20 2:35:59 PM #21: |
I don't think all these doctors are bad. There are a ton of pain modalities that may work in these post-trauma patients like the guy in the story that couldn't sleep after spinal cord injuries and percocet didn't touch his pain. But I do understand that if they try all those modalities and have failed that they may want to try the spray. Not saying I would've done the same but some of these patients are genuinely constantly in pain and just because its non-cancer doesn't mean its not going to be as bad. We do off-label prescriptions all the time. The only problem here is that its not standard of care or a commonly accepted practice.
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Balrog0 11/18/20 2:37:08 PM #22: |
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Tryhaptaward 11/18/20 2:45:30 PM #23: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/the-code-im-still-ashamed-of-e4c021dff55e/ What drug was it? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 11/18/20 3:28:01 PM #24: |
Tryhaptaward posted...
What drug was it? I don't know. It was likely not mentioned deliberately to avoid identifying the incident. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bknight 11/18/20 3:29:46 PM #25: |
Well, they now have to play by Amazon's rule, let's see how this turns out.
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IShall_Run_Amok 11/18/20 4:05:47 PM #26: |
Surely a sprinkle of moderate regulations will put a stop to this.
NOT TOO MUCH take it easy --- an american werewolf in orbit city ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dreepapult 11/18/20 4:51:35 PM #27: |
Pharma is the most evil industry on the planet
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Solid Snake07 11/18/20 5:53:49 PM #28: |
teepan95 posted...
The government doesn't at least try to maximise profits You're saying that like it's inherently a good thing. A profit motive is an efficiency motive. --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xenozoa425 11/18/20 5:59:27 PM #29: |
Dreepapult posted...
Felt like we worked for the devil himselfThe devil is the amalagation of any and all forces that are in direct opposition of righteousness and nature itself. A pharmacy is a practice of the devil just by going off its etymological roots, a pharmacy is a place of spells, poisons and potions that help with ritual sacrifice. --- "God is the highest state of the mind that uses the elements of matter in order to express itself as a configuration of reality." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Verdekal 11/18/20 6:33:39 PM #30: |
KainWind posted...
Were those that paid the most fines the most successful overall? If so, they should probably consider a different penalty because they clearly don't care anyway.Some companies just pay the fine and consider it a routine expense. --- Don't tease the octopus, kids! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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specialkid8 11/18/20 6:46:22 PM #31: |
If they're not making Tyrants what's even the fucking point of being big pharma?
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IShall_Run_Amok 11/18/20 7:16:16 PM #32: |
Solid Snake07 posted...
You're saying that like it's inherently a good thing. A profit motive is an efficiency motive.Needless to say, it isn't. A profit motive is, primarily, a corner cutting incentive. --- an american werewolf in orbit city ... Copied to Clipboard!
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teepan95 11/19/20 1:34:38 AM #33: |
Solid Snake07 posted...
teepan95 posted...The government doesn't at least try to maximise profits Unfortunately, efficiency without ethics is not inherently good --- teep dumb as f*** fr - BatmanvonDoom I'm gonna pound a 400 lb woman just to prove teep wrong - NigerianKnight ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hambo the Hog 11/19/20 1:47:36 AM #34: |
Just give the guillotine to everyone responsible for absurd insulin prices and call it a day.
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