Poll of the Day > Biden is still President-Elect; Trump is still President-Reject (Part II)

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DANTE20XX
11/27/20 11:16:59 PM
#152:


Far-Queue posted...
Trump's camp paid $3M for a recount in Milwaukee County that increases Biden's lead by 130+ votes lmao

https://www.chicagotribune.com/election-2020/ct-nw-trump-biden-wisconsin-election-recount-20201128-2vmsof6xlfc7nexj33pmb7rgju-story.html
What good is a recount if there's fraudulent ballots anyways? Surely even trump know this.

man101 posted...
accidentally probably the most generous thing he has done for regular working people in his entire term
I thought he denied his presidential salary. Where's that money go otherwise?

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likehelly
11/27/20 11:20:07 PM
#153:


DANTE20XX posted...
I thought he denied his presidential salary. Where's that money go otherwise?
the several million he charged the secret service to stay at his hotel when he refused to go to the white house in the beginning

or his 1200th golf trip, at his own courses, that he charges to the white house.

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Far-Queue
11/27/20 11:23:38 PM
#154:


DANTE20XX posted...
What good is a recount if there's fraudulent ballots anyways? Surely even trump know this.
"Knows"? No.

Keeps crying like a snot-nosed toddler about while offering no proof or evidence to substantiate the claim? Yes.

And his imbecile supporters eat it up because they're dumber than dogshit

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BlackScythe0
11/27/20 11:25:38 PM
#155:


DANTE20XX posted...
I thought he denied his presidential salary. Where's that money go otherwise?

lol Presidential salary is what 400k a year? He gets millions every time he goes to his properties or diverts military flights to one of his properties or has politicians domestic or foreign stay at his properties to curry favor with him.
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Far-Queue
11/27/20 11:27:58 PM
#156:


BlackScythe0 posted...
lol Presidential salary is what 400k a year? He gets millions every time he goes to his properties or diverts military flights to one of his properties or has politicians domestic or foreign stay at his properties to curry favor with him.
Which is another thing his smoothbrained followers seem to take no issue with.

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Blightzkrieg
11/27/20 11:28:10 PM
#157:


Sarcasthma posted...
I don't think you're allowed to use that word here, Mead...


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OhhhJa
11/27/20 11:44:02 PM
#158:


Far-Queue posted...
"Knows"? No.

Keeps crying like a snot-nosed toddler about while offering no proof or evidence to substantiate the claim? Yes.

And his imbecile supporters eat it up because they're dumber than dogshit
There's plenty of evidence of impropriety as well as actual fraud. You won't find irrefutable proof without an actual investigation though which I'm quite sure isn't going to happen. As far as dominion goes, even prominent democrats like Stacey Abrams have spoken out against using dominion software. It was a bipartisan issue before trump

And yeah, simple recounts aren't going to change anything. That was never the issue really
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Blightzkrieg
11/27/20 11:49:45 PM
#159:


OhhhJa posted...
There's plenty of evidence of impropriety as well as actual fraud. You won't find irrefutable proof without an actual investigation though which I'm quite sure isn't going to happen. As far as dominion goes, even prominent democrats like Stacey Abrams have spoken out against using dominion software. It was a bipartisan issue before trump

And yeah, simple recounts aren't going to change anything. That was never the issue really
Weird how the most powerful man in the world can't show any of this in court despite weeks of trying

Almost like you're full of shit

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Entity13
11/27/20 11:50:00 PM
#160:


OhhhJa posted...
There's plenty of evidence of impropriety as well as actual fraud. You won't find irrefutable proof without an actual investigation though

The only evidence of fraud found so far has been individual cases, rather than anything from an entire party, and said cases have been Republicans as far as I'm aware. So, aside from that, what plentiful evidence do you think actually exists that needs to be found? And what are you basing this on aside from hearsay or biased opinions?

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Entity13
11/27/20 11:50:44 PM
#161:


Blightzkrieg posted...
Weird how the most powerful man in the world can't show any of this in court despite weeks of trying

Jeff Bezos has been trying in court? =p

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Sarcasthma
11/27/20 11:51:24 PM
#162:


Blightzkrieg posted...
Weird how the most powerful man in the world can't show any of this in court despite weeks of trying

Almost like you're full of shit
OhhhJa is fake news.

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BlackScythe0
11/27/20 11:52:33 PM
#163:


OhhhJa posted...
There's plenty of evidence of impropriety as well as actual fraud. You won't find irrefutable proof without an actual investigation though which I'm quite sure isn't going to happen. As far as dominion goes, even prominent democrats like Stacey Abrams have spoken out against using dominion software. It was a bipartisan issue before trump

And yeah, simple recounts aren't going to change anything. That was never the issue really
There is zero evidence. There is only claims, accusations are not evidence.

There is a reason that every time Trumps lawyers go to court and rant about fraud the judge goes "Are you alleging fraud in your cause?" they go "*cough* no not at this time"
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likehelly
11/28/20 12:03:07 AM
#164:


OhhhJa posted...
There's plenty of evidence of impropriety as well as actual fraud.
where though

OhhhJa posted...
You won't find irrefutable proof without an actual investigation though which I'm quite sure isn't going to happen.
so you don't know that there actually is any, unless there is an investigation, of which you don't think one will happen.

but why not? is it because there...has been no evidence of fraud happening? or rather, is it because all of the lawyers trying to get votes thrown out aren't even claiming there's fraud, because they don't want to lose their licenses by lying in a court of law.

you can't claim there's fraud without proof. you need proof of fraud happening to go "yep that's fraud", and without it, you have nothing.

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OhhhJa
11/28/20 12:03:22 AM
#165:


BlackScythe0 posted...
"Are you alleging fraud in your cause?" they go "*cough* no not at this time"
I think I saw one news article with a quite taken out of context for one court case where this happened
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BlackScythe0
11/28/20 12:07:00 AM
#166:


OhhhJa posted...
I think I saw one news article with a quite taken out of context for one court case where this happened

Come on dude what are you even trying here? It's one line? Maybe? it's emblematic of the situation. They talk fraud nonstop but they haven't filed any cases alleging fraud. The kraken idiot is the only person who filed a lawsuit alleging fraud (that I'm aware of) and it's all allegations no substance.

If fraud was so widespread as is being claimed it's so insane they haven't even filed a case over it.
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likehelly
11/28/20 12:15:45 AM
#167:


OhhhJa posted...
I think I saw one news article with a quite taken out of context for one court case where this happened

given the history of the news places you link here, that's not really a big surprise.

it's happened multiple times so far, most recently judge bibas, a trump appointee, even said they cannot rule on fraud unless there is actual evidence of fraud, no proof of which was actually provided to him. in fact, trumps lawyers want to be allowed to provide proof at a later date, which means that they literally don't have any.

not to mention the fact that fraud has apparently only happened in states where trump lost. it didn't happen in states where he won, or states that biden definitively won. weird that.

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OhhhJa
11/28/20 12:30:39 AM
#168:


likehelly posted...
it's happened multiple times so far, most recently judge bibas, a trump appointee, even said they cannot rule on fraud unless there is actual evidence of fraud, no proof of which was actually provided to him. in fact, trumps lawyers want to be allowed to provide proof at a later date, which means that they literally don't have any.
I think you misunderstand. I was referring to trump's lawyers saying it wasn't alleged fraud involving one particular case. Anyway, as I said before, you won't have definitive proof of fraud without allowing an investigation where they can actually examine the ballots. We do, however, have hundreds of affidavits alleging all sorts of impropriety. It has also been shown how easy dominion systems are to hack.

likehelly posted...
not to mention the fact that fraud has apparently only happened in states where trump lost. it didn't happen in states where he won, or states that biden definitively won. weird that.
Also, weird that the last few states where Biden had to magically make up hundreds of thousands of votes in key battleground states he managed to make up just enough at 4 am getting almost 100% of the votes. I don't care what demographic you're referring to. Getting 95% of votes is unheard of... whether trump discouraged mail in or not. Also, weird that Republicans did so well in the house and senate but somehow I'm supposed to believe Republicans voted for Biden despite trump having incredibly high approval rating among republican voters
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Zareth
11/28/20 1:18:29 AM
#169:


OhhhJa posted...
somehow I'm supposed to believe Republicans voted for Biden despite trump having incredibly high approval rating among republican voters
Yes, you are supposed to believe that there actually are conservative people in this country who think Trump is a piece of shit. Because there are.

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OhhhJa
11/28/20 1:23:04 AM
#170:


Zareth posted...
Yes, you are supposed to believe that there actually are conservative people in this country who think Trump is a piece of shit. Because there are.
I'm sure there are. But Gallup polls showed trump had 95% republican approval rating heading into nov 2020
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BlackScythe0
11/28/20 1:52:43 AM
#171:


OhhhJa posted...
I think you misunderstand. I was referring to trump's lawyers saying it wasn't alleged fraud involving one particular case. Anyway, as I said before, you won't have definitive proof of fraud without allowing an investigation where they can actually examine the ballots. We do, however, have hundreds of affidavits alleging all sorts of impropriety. It has also been shown how easy dominion systems are to hack.

Also, weird that the last few states where Biden had to magically make up hundreds of thousands of votes in key battleground states he managed to make up just enough at 4 am getting almost 100% of the votes. I don't care what demographic you're referring to. Getting 95% of votes is unheard of... whether trump discouraged mail in or not. Also, weird that Republicans did so well in the house and senate but somehow I'm supposed to believe Republicans voted for Biden despite trump having incredibly high approval rating among republican voters

It's not magic but you double down on nonsense why the fuck would they only cheat the president vote when democrats were projected to get up to 53 of the 100 senate seats?

Trump lost because he is fucking awful.
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likehelly
11/28/20 2:26:34 AM
#172:


OhhhJa posted...
definitively won. weird that.
Also, weird that the last few states where Biden had to magically make up hundreds of thousands of votes in key battleground states he managed to make up just enough at 4 am getting almost 100% of the votes
it is weird

mainly because that never actually happened

OhhhJa posted...
I'm sure there are. But Gallup polls showed trump had 95% republican approval rating heading into nov 2020
lol

i just polled my dog about if he thinks I'm cool or not, so I'm polling at 100% coolness

going off of unofficial polls are the dumbest thing ever simply because the amount of people polled is miniscule and it's often biased based on demographic and region chosen.

but we all know you already know that, given that you've said the exact same thing before.

verbatim.



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likehelly
11/28/20 2:28:40 AM
#173:


BlackScythe0 posted...
It's not magic but you double down on nonsense why the fuck would they only cheat the president vote when democrats were projected to get up to 53 of the 100 senate seats?

Trump lost because he is fucking awful.
not to mention that you have literal trump appointed officials speaking out against him, even.

people just don't like the guy, even if they're the same party. you absolutely are not required to like every single member of your political party.

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Entity13
11/28/20 2:28:56 AM
#174:


likehelly posted...
i just polled my dog about if he thinks I'm cool or not, so I'm polling at 100% coolness

going off of unofficial polls are the dumbest thing ever simply because the amount of people polled is miniscule and it's often biased based on demographic and region chosen.

Once again, whenever looking at polls, always seek out the margin of error and sample representation. Numbers are often a load of shit when proper information or recording is nowhere to be found.

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BlackScythe0
11/28/20 2:37:15 AM
#175:


likehelly posted...
it is weird

mainly because that never actually happened

lol

i just polled my dog about if he thinks I'm cool or not, so I'm polling at 100% coolness

going off of unofficial polls are the dumbest thing ever simply because the amount of people polled is miniscule and it's often biased based on demographic and region chosen.

but we all know you already know that, given that you've said the exact same thing before.

verbatim.

You're looking too deep in to it. Independents are a thing.
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Far-Queue
11/28/20 7:09:38 AM
#176:


Sarcasthma posted...
OhhhJa is dumb news.
Agreed

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adjl
11/28/20 9:17:57 AM
#177:


OhhhJa posted...
There's plenty of evidence of impropriety as well as actual fraud.

Of course there is. Nobody has ever suggested that there is truly no fraud going on. Everybody that isn't desperately humping Trump's leg, however, has repeatedly said that there's no evidence that fraud has happened on a sufficiently large or partisan scale to have influenced the election's outcome. I've told you this multiple times. I'm not sure why you struggle so much with it.

OhhhJa posted...
You won't find irrefutable proof without an actual investigation though which I'm quite sure isn't going to happen.

Trump himself is a billionaire. Dozens of GOP supporters are also billionaires (since the GOP tends to be the party that openly favours making the rich richer, as opposed to the Democrats doing it quietly behind the scenes). If they actually felt that there was a chance of finding evidence of significant fraud, they would have absolutely no problem personally funding that investigation. That they aren't committing to that tells me that they don't think it would be worthwhile, which should in turn tell you that there's nothing to be found. Trump will happily throw other people's money at the "problem" in the form of token efforts that perpetuate the narrative that it exists and keep his fanboys happy, but he knows he has nothing to gain by actually investing in a proper investigation.

But sure, blame the lack of investigation not on the dearth of justification for such an investigation, but on the Democrats' (who don't currently control the percentage of government that would be needed to really block a proper investigation) unwillingness to conduct it. I can see how blaming a nebulous, hypothetical conspiracy would be easier than confronting reality.

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Far-Queue
11/28/20 9:20:44 AM
#178:


adjl posted...
I'm not sure why you struggle so much with it.
I know why

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DANTE20XX
11/28/20 12:47:54 PM
#179:


likehelly posted...
going off of unofficial polls are the dumbest thing ever simply because the amount of people polled is miniscule and it's often biased based on demographic and region chosen.
What polls were even close at all? Pretty much none of them, all the major outlets were WAY off. There was only like 2 who were close.

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OhhhJa
11/28/20 12:58:10 PM
#180:


DANTE20XX posted...
What polls were even close at all? Pretty much none of them, all the major outlets were WAY off. There was only like 2 who were close.
Helly knows I was just making a point. These motherfuckers were citing polls left and right before the election but if I post one that illustrates something they don't like then suddenly the polls are trash
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OhhhJa
11/28/20 12:59:35 PM
#181:


Far-Queue posted...
I know why
Far queue... the guy who thought a 25 year old reporter was 15. Dude can't tell obvious age differences. Makes me wonder if he might be a creeper
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adjl
11/28/20 1:07:16 PM
#182:


OhhhJa posted...
These motherf***ers were citing polls left and right before the election

Really? I seem to remember the overwhelming consensus among most of this board being that we shouldn't trust that polls will be at all accurate for predicting the election's outcome and that it was vitally important not to let them inspire a false sense of security and diminish the drive to vote. Are you sure you're not just assuming that everyone who disagrees with you is part of a hive mind and cherry-picking the most easily-refuted to treat as being representative of their collective beliefs?

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captpackrat
11/28/20 1:27:47 PM
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Far-Queue
11/28/20 1:59:50 PM
#184:


OhhhJa posted...
Far queue... the guy who thought a 25 year old reporter/actress was 15. Dude can't tell obvious age differences. Makes me wonder if he might be a creeper
Already told you I knew the girl was an older actress and based my comment off the headline but of course you forget all that,



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Mead
11/28/20 2:49:23 PM
#185:


captpackrat posted...

theyre so close to becoming self aware

fascinating to see

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streamofthesky
11/28/20 3:15:49 PM
#186:


Mead posted...
theyre so close to becoming self aware

fascinating to see
Are we sure that's not someone trolling or being sarcastic? You know, pretending to be a clueless Trumper for lulz?
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Mead
11/28/20 3:17:30 PM
#187:


streamofthesky posted...
Are we sure that's not someone trolling or being sarcastic? You know, pretending to be a clueless Trumper for lulz?
I find that more believable than an actual Trumper getting to the cusp of self awareness.

we may never know for sure

a true case of Schrdinger's Dipshit

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papercup
11/28/20 4:13:26 PM
#188:


How do they not know hes a liar. What the hell is wrong with so many people that they like Trump? Its scary.

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KJ StErOiDs
11/28/20 4:24:21 PM
#190:


You suppose Trump will run again in 2024?

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Metalsonic66
11/28/20 4:25:12 PM
#191:


I hope so.

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papercup
11/28/20 4:25:39 PM
#192:


Most likely yes

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Ogurisama
11/28/20 4:41:18 PM
#193:


KJ StErOiDs posted...
You suppose Trump will run again in 2024?
I saw something he is planning on it
I hope he does, but not as a republican, and it will split the vote hard

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Mead
11/28/20 5:55:57 PM
#194:


Id like to apologize for my post that suggested trump supporters might not have the highest intelligence

They obviously support our buffoon of a president because theyre geniuses

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BlackScythe0
11/28/20 10:13:17 PM
#196:


What happened here?
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likehelly
11/28/20 10:18:01 PM
#197:


i called trump supporters the dumbest of all dumbass dumbfucks

then i was told that intelligence based attacks aren't allowed


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Mead
11/28/20 10:21:31 PM
#198:


likehelly posted...
i was told that intelligence based attacks aren't allowed

Mine werent allowed either strangely

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likehelly
11/28/20 10:24:04 PM
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streamofthesky
11/28/20 11:18:49 PM
#200:


BlackScythe0 posted...
What happened here?
Damn, looks like a mod massacre in the past several hours
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BlackScythe0
11/28/20 11:58:12 PM
#202:


Zangulus posted...
Oh look, all these leftists being moderated. Now can the right leaning people on this board keep claiming the same stupid bias bullshit?

Yes they can, facts never stopped them before.
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