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Full Throttle
11/08/20 8:02:52 PM
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Do you think this family deserves millions over this?



9 y/o Lydia Booth from Mississippi was BANNED from wearing this face mask to school after she was forced to remove it and now her parents are filing a lawsuit violating her first amendment rights!!

It happened at Simpson Central School when Principal Antoinette Woodall demanded the 3rd grader to take off the covering because it violated school's policy

Now they filed a lawsuit in US District Court after an assistant teacher gave her a plain face mask substitute as Matthew and Jennifer Booth are seeking a JURY trial and demanding MILLIONS in damages saying it greatly upset their little girl

They said there was nothing in the handbook about wearing this type of mask and claim they updated the school policy 2 days after this to ban any political, sexual or religious face coverings

They also said students were allowed to wear sports team logos on it or "Black Lives Matter" which they say is political and should be banned

Now with the help of the Alliance Defending Freedom Association they will sue on Lydia's consititutional rights as lawyer Michael Ross says public schools have a duty to respect free expression of students that the First Amendment Rights guarantees them

Do you think they deserve MILLIONS for this?

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11/08/20 8:03:18 PM
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Of course she was

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11/08/20 8:03:39 PM
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Evening_Dragon
11/08/20 8:06:08 PM
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Alliance Defending Freedom Association

This whole story sounds like an advertisement they made up. At least give us a link, tc.

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Irony
11/08/20 8:07:08 PM
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First amendment doesn't apply to what children wear at school. The parents will be spanked.

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KLouD_KoNNeCteD
11/08/20 8:07:26 PM
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Full Throttle posted...
Do you think they deserve MILLIONS for this?
Every penny of it, fuck anybody not taking this pandemic serious enough. Making a child take her face covering off when COVID cases are worse than ever is some shameful fucking shit.

This shit shouldn't be tolerated at all.
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VipaGTS
11/08/20 8:07:59 PM
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Indoctrination is bad.

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Cheater87
11/08/20 8:08:01 PM
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Keep religion out of school..

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Hexenherz
11/08/20 8:08:16 PM
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KLouD_KoNNeCteD posted...
Every penny of it, fuck anybody not taking this pandemic serious enough. Making a child take her face covering off when COVID cases are worse than ever is some shameful fucking shit.

This shit shouldn't be tolerated at all.

But...

Now they filed a lawsuit in US District Court after an assistant teacher gave her a plain face mask substitute

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Irony
11/08/20 8:09:10 PM
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KLouD_KoNNeCteD posted...
Every penny of it, fuck anybody not taking this pandemic serious enough. Making a child take her face covering off when COVID cases are worse than ever is some shameful fucking shit.

This shit shouldn't be tolerated at all.
Except they gave her another mask

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CanuckCowboy
11/08/20 8:09:32 PM
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eh. Maybe something. Millions is idiotic though. And large settlement is fucking absurd.

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FrozenPie
11/08/20 8:09:45 PM
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Freedom of expression and speech.

easily win the case.
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KLouD_KoNNeCteD
11/08/20 8:09:53 PM
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Irony posted...
Except they gave her another mask
Oh well that's ok, I guess.
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Hexenherz
11/08/20 8:10:26 PM
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FrozenPie posted...
Freedom of expression and speech.

easily win the case.
As has been said, schools are not legally required to comply with any "freedom of expression" laws or amendments.

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Damn_Underscore
11/08/20 8:11:04 PM
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lol CE is conflicted with this one.

Millions of dollars is a bit crazy but fair, next.

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DarkChozoGhost
11/08/20 8:11:24 PM
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I don't understand why that wouldn't be allowed. And I'm pretty anti religion.

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CommonStar
11/08/20 8:11:30 PM
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No they don't deserve millions, but also the adult administrators should've left the girl alone and brought it up with her parents. The kid doesn't know any better and why would you risk her health by having her swap her mask there. It's just so dumb.
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CanuckCowboy
11/08/20 8:12:15 PM
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FrozenPie posted...
Freedom of expression and speech.

easily win the case

Except no and somehow I doubt you'd say that if her mask said "hail Satan."

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VipaGTS
11/08/20 8:12:29 PM
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Id also like to point out that I bet if another student wore a mask saying satan loves me or evolution made me these same parents would throw a fit and demand that child remove the mask to protect their child.

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CanuckCowboy
11/08/20 8:13:13 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
Id also like to point out that I bet if another student wore a mask saying satan loves me or evolution made me these same parents would throw a fit and demand that child remove the mask to protect their child.

Good almost same time post.

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Damn_Underscore
11/08/20 8:13:34 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
Id also like to point out that I bet if another student wore a mask saying satan loves me or evolution made me these same parents would throw a fit and demand that child remove the mask to protect their child.

And CE would cheer, so what's your point?

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CanuckCowboy
11/08/20 8:15:13 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
for better or worse, this nation was founded on the belief that people should be free to believe stupid things if that's what they want to do. this family definitely shouldn't get millions or probably even any money for this, but it was probably not within the purview of the school's authority to have told the girl she can't wear it.

But it is. Schools have enforced dress codes and specific policies for ages beyond count.

She can't wear it at school... this isn't the same as a cop or someone demanding she take it off in a space open to the public.

Its no different than a business saying no shoes no shirt no service (or no mask no service for that matter).

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Wetterdew
11/08/20 8:15:24 PM
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I don't think there was good reason to make her remove it. Wearing a mask that says Jesus Loves Me doesn't foist your religion on other people.

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Evening_Dragon
11/08/20 8:15:48 PM
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KLouD_KoNNeCteD posted...
Oh well that's ok, I guess.

If it makes you better, that was my reaction until I remembered to read the rest of it lmao

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CanuckCowboy
11/08/20 8:16:01 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
And CE would cheer, so what's your point?

His point is its arbitrary bs.

Whats your point? "BUT CE?"

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Evening_Dragon
11/08/20 8:16:24 PM
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FrozenPie posted...
Freedom of expression and speech.

easily win the case.

You do not understand what you're talking about.

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CanuckCowboy
11/08/20 8:16:42 PM
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Wetterdew posted...
I don't think there was good reason to make her remove it. Wearing a mask that says Jesus Loves Me doesn't foist your religion on other people.

Agreed.


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Cornhuskers
11/08/20 8:16:46 PM
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Was it given to her by Mississippi's governor "Big Red"?
Add fat shaming if so.
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harley2280
11/08/20 8:16:52 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
for better or worse, this nation was founded on the belief that people should be free to believe stupid things if that's what they want to do. this family definitely shouldn't get millions or probably even any money for this, but it was probably not within the purview of the school's authority to have told the girl she can't wear it.

It's well within the school's purview. They have dress codes set out, and many of them don't allow graphics or images. They don't allow gang symbols, or political symbols. She's free to practice her religion. That doesn't require the mask to push it onto other people.
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kinetika_
11/08/20 8:17:12 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
lol CE is conflicted with this one.

Millions of dollars is a bit crazy but fair, next.

This.

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DarkChozoGhost
11/08/20 8:17:23 PM
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Full Throttle posted...


They said there was nothing in the handbook about wearing this type of mask and claim they updated the school policy 2 days after this to ban any political, sexual or religious face coverings
Like if this is true, they have grounds. If the policy was already in place, they don't.

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Hexenherz
11/08/20 8:18:31 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Like if this is true, they have grounds. If the policy was already in place, they don't.
Based on the letter sent to parents dated 15 October, masks relating to religion, politics, etc. were prohibited.

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KLouD_KoNNeCteD
11/08/20 8:18:44 PM
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Evening_Dragon posted...
If it makes you better, that was my reaction until I remembered to read the rest of it lmao
Yeah now that I have a better understanding of the situation my opinion has changed.
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Damn_Underscore
11/08/20 8:18:48 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
His point is its arbitrary bs.

Whats your point? "BUT CE?"

The overarching point is that the school made her remove a mask which she obviously should be wearing because of Covid.

Was the mask's message really offensive enough to be worth the added danger for her from having to remove it? Of course not. But CE hates religion so much they'll ignore that because religion got owned

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Evening_Dragon
11/08/20 8:19:45 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
The overarching point is that the school made her remove a mask which she obviously should be wearing because of Covid.

Was the mask's message really offensive enough to be worth the added danger for her from having to remove it? Of course not. But CE hates religion so much they'll ignore that because religion got owned

Did you see the part where they had a replacement mask?

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CanuckCowboy
11/08/20 8:20:01 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
The overarching point is that the school made her remove a mask which she obviously should be wearing because of Covid.

Was the mask's message really offensive enough to be worth the added danger for her from having to remove it? Of course not. But CE hates religion so much they'll ignore that because religion got owned

But she was offered another mask so thats not the point.

I agree its dumb but she was offered another mask so its not a health issue.

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kirbyakaZ
11/08/20 8:20:11 PM
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If the mask said "Jesus hates sinners" or something like that I'd side with the school. This is as harmless as wearing a cross necklace.

Anyone who voted against wearing the mask, do you also think people shouldn't be able to wear crosses, turbans, hijabs, kippah, etc?

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CanuckCowboy
11/08/20 8:21:06 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
The overarching point is that the school made her remove a mask which she obviously should be wearing because of Covid.

Was the mask's message really offensive enough to be worth the added danger for her from having to remove it? Of course not. But CE hates religion so much they'll ignore that because religion got owned

I'm calling it dumb and I fully believe religion can be a very important and valuable aspect of a person's life.

I am religious in a non church going sense.

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Hexenherz
11/08/20 8:23:09 PM
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kirbyakaZ posted...
If the mask said "Jesus hates sinners" or something like that I'd side with the school. This is as harmless as wearing a cross necklace.

Anyone who voted against wearing the mask, do you also think people shouldn't be able to wear crosses, turbans, hijabs, kippah, etc?

I don't think it's comparable. A simple religious symbol is just that - a recognizable icon.

The problem with masks is that they've become a fashion accessory for self-expression and there are myriad messages and patterns you can get on your mask. It's quite possible that someone *could* wear a religious mask with a more offensive message on it. To avoid that sort of issue, it's easier for a school to just outright ban religious, political, etc. messaging on masks to apply a fair and objective criteria that *all* students can observe. It gets rid of any grey area.

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Damn_Underscore
11/08/20 8:23:30 PM
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Evening_Dragon posted...
Did you see the part where they had a replacement mask?

I don't think it's unreasonable not to want to use someone else's mask. I don't know the reason why she refused, but I know I would not want to use someone else's mask for fear of where it has been.

Again not worth millions of dollars, but she is in the right. "Jesus Loves Me" is in no way an offensive message.

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Hexenherz
11/08/20 8:25:18 PM
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Doesn't matter if the message is offensive or not... it's religious. School issued a policy saying no X, Y or Z messaging on masks. Her mask violated that policy.

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kirbyakaZ
11/08/20 8:26:55 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
I don't think it's comparable. A simple religious symbol is just that - a recognizable icon.

The problem with masks is that they've become a fashion accessory for self-expression and there are myriad messages and patterns you can get on your mask. It's quite possible that someone *could* wear a religious mask with a more offensive message on it. To avoid that sort of issue, it's easier for a school to just outright ban religious, political, etc. messaging on masks to apply a fair and objective criteria that *all* students can observe. It gets rid of any grey area.

I dunno man, it's a very fine line.
Is a mask with a cross or star or other symbol okay? But not text?
And yeah masks are fashion accessories, but I've also seen tons of flashy crosses and such.

Again I'd side with the school if the message on it was negative (like that post from a few weeks back where the kid had the anti-gay shirt, fuck that). But this is a positive message that doesn't push onto other students.

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CanuckCowboy
11/08/20 8:27:17 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
I don't think it's unreasonable not to want to use someone else's mask. I don't know the reason why she refused, but I know I would not want to use someone else's mask for fear of where it has been.

Again not worth millions of dollars, but she is in the right. "Jesus Loves Me" is in no way an offensive message.

I would assume it was a disposable unused mask man. No idea why you assumed otherwise with the given information here except it allows you to continue disagreeing.

I don't think the teacher just took a mask shed taken from some other random and said "put this on."

Every single store here which requires masks has a person at the front entrance with a box of disposable masks. Seriously doubt the school wasn't doing the same.

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Evening_Dragon
11/08/20 8:30:14 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
I don't think it's unreasonable not to want to use someone else's mask. I don't know the reason why she refused, but I know I would not want to use someone else's mask for fear of where it has been.

Again not worth millions of dollars, but she is in the right. "Jesus Loves Me" is in no way an offensive message.

No one in their right mind would use someone else's mask, that defeats the entire purpose. Just common sense that it was a clean disposable one.

If they actually gave her a used mask, that's worth suing over. As it is, this kind of case pops up regularly enough that courts are catching up and just throwing it out.

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Hexenherz
11/08/20 8:31:54 PM
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kirbyakaZ posted...
I dunno man, it's a very fine line.
Is a mask with a cross or star or other symbol okay? But not text?
And yeah masks are fashion accessories, but I've also seen tons of flashy crosses and such.

That's why the policy says they encourage just wearing plain black masks, masks with school colors, or masks with the school mascot on it.

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FortuneCookie
11/08/20 8:32:21 PM
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The parents set their sights too high with this one. Nobody is going to award you millions of dollars because someone denied you the right to identify your religion for all to see.

That said, I would think this was fair if they were simply suing for the right to wear the mask. This isn't a club which has a dress code prohibited religious imagery. The school system is an institution which you are mandated to attend. Yes, private schools do exist -- but only if you can afford them. If an individual wishes to wear a cross, a yarmulke, a hijab, or Buddhist prayer beads at all times, they should have a right to do so. If it means they're not allowed in certain places, they can adjust themselves accordingly. But they can't opt to stay out of the school. The state beckons.

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Hexenherz
11/08/20 8:33:50 PM
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A yarmulke or hijab or prayer beads are traditional religious accoutrements though. A mask is not.

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Pus_N_Pecans
11/08/20 8:35:38 PM
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Seems fine to me. If they're banning this, they'd have to ban all those cross necklaces too. There's a big difference between using school time for prayer and some kid wearing something with the word "Jesus" on it. Any amount of money would be too much though.

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