Current Events > Many, myself included, assumed increased minority vote would help Democrats

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But in fact it boosted Republicans. You think this is a long term trend whew Republicans have gained a marked increase in loyal voters among blacks and Latinos?

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https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1324165219602567168?s=20

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The Republicans have an actual platform. Democrats are diet Republicans right now, the party heads keep suppressing any new ideas.

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Are the exit polls even accurate

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Trump is a strong personality and that can appeal to minorities even if the person in question isn't good for them

Also doesn't help that Dems picked a candidate that was easy to find distasteful, especially as a minority

Doe posted...

The Republicans have an actual platform. Democrats are diet Republicans right now, the party heads keep suppressing any new ideas.

Shut the fuck up. The Republicans platform is to give money to rich people

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I would say something about people who think this but I'd probably be banned

KiwiTerraRizing posted...

Shut the fuck up. The Republicans platform is to give money to rich people

Yes and the Democrat platform is the same + "but we promise were not as racist"

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Doe posted...

Yes and the Democrat platform is the same + "but we promise were not as racist"

False

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Lots of older minorities still think traditionally and unfortunately their traditions aligns with Trump and/or their traditions will live longer with Trump as the president.

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uied_leus_el posted...

I would say something about people who think this but I'd probably be banned

Just make a new account. You always do.

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IMNOTRAGED posted...

Are the exit polls even accurate

Five Thirty Eight talked about regular polls before the election suggesting Trump improved with every group except white males who he did worse with. That lines up with what the election day exit polls suggest. It is probably the case Trump improved with women and minorities, but he still did bad, just historically good for a Republican post Nixon.

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KiwiTerraRizing posted...

Shut the fuck up. The Republicans platform is to give money to rich people

Come on man. Both parties platform gives money to different Rich People. The Dems platform is the Tech Giants, Financial Institutes, and Law Firms while the Republicans is Auto, Oil and Gas, Gun industry, and a few other large Consumer businesses.

it was trump who oversaw record low black unemployment

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Phynaster posted...

https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1324165219602567168?s=20

Yeah, Democrats have gotta start factoring in minorities more in their strategies and policies.

Obama brought out the minority vote and won. Clinton didn't do nearly as well and lost. And given how close this election is already, Biden surely would have lost if not for how horrendously the Trump Administration botched the response to COVID-19 and, of course, he's had numerous public gaffes with minority voters.

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Yeah I really think how bad the Democrats did despite everything should be a huge wakeup call to them. This shouldn't have been this close and they honestly probably couldn't have won without the pandemic occurring. I really worry about their ability to turn things around, especially with the Senate looking intractable.

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ledbowman posted...

it was trump who oversaw record low black unemployment

https://www.vox.com/coronavirus-covid19/2020/10/2/21496884/us-covid-19-deaths-by-race-black-white-americans

All of Americas minorities, with the exception of Asian Americans, have seen worse outcomes than white people during the coronavirus pandemic. But Black Americans have fared worst of all, with about 1 in every 1,000 Black Americans dying from Covid-19 since February. That is about 40,000 people who have lost their lives. For their share of the US population, Black people are dying in the pandemic at twice the rate of white Americans, of whom about 1 in every 2,150 people has died.

Doe posted...

The Republicans have an actual platform. Democrats are diet Republicans right now, the party heads keep suppressing any new ideas.

Their platform was lets use 2016s platform again and Trump hasnt said what his plans for a second term are, because he has no plan

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buttrrymales used deflect

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i'm not gonna say what race, but among the dumbest people I've meet in my life, this race has been amongst them. I'm not saying ALL of them are dumb but holy **** are a lot of them incredibly stupid.

I'm sick of people acting like there is a women's vote, or a black vote, or a hispanic vote...its not a uniform thing you idiots. And guess what, you just lost the senate again and any chance of doing anything. nice work guys.

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ledbowman posted...

buttrrymales used deflect

Well, I can tell you this as a black man that I have not yet met ONE black person that actually thinks Trump helped with employment. Being "employed" because you work at McDonald's isn't necessarily a good thing either.

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The_Office_pwnz posted...

I'm sick of people acting like there is a women's vote, or a black vote, or a hispanic vote...its not a uniform thing you idiots. And guess what, you just lost the senate again and any chance of doing anything. nice work guys.

This is factually false.

People that come from a similar cultural background tend to have similar beliefs and values, and thus you can reasonably predict where they'll tend to lean.

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I think basing this strong statement from the exit polls is very silly. Almost certainly skewed heavily due to mail in voting.

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Phynaster posted...

https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1324165219602567168?s=20

Lol what

Georgia is in play because more white people voted for Biden than Clinton

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COVxy posted...

I think basing this strong statement from the exit polls is very silly. Almost certainly skewed heavily due to mail in voting.

Ah yeah that's also a good point too though

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Well, I can tell you this as a black man that I have not yet met ONE black person that actually thinks Trump helped with employment. Being "employed" because you work at McDonald's isn't necessarily a good thing either.

ok? they're wrong

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ssjevot posted...

Five Thirty Eight talked about regular polls before the election suggesting Trump improved with every group except white males who he did worse with. That lines up with what the election day exit polls suggest. It is probably the case Trump improved with women and minorities, but he still did bad, just historically good for a Republican post Nixon.

It's pretty crazy because it was basically joe bidens pitch and it seems to have worked but in, a very joe biden way, everyone is still dissatisfied

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ledbowman posted...

buttrrymales used deflect

Of all the things you could have replied with, criticising me for doing the exact same thing you did is probably the stupidest.

I don't think the TC is even correct about this topic. There's no source and mail-in ballots are skewing the numbers.

Balrog0 posted...

Ah yeah that's also a good point too though

Check the preelection polls. It showed similar shifts.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-losing-ground-with-white-voters-but-gaining-among-black-and-hispanic-americans/

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ButteryMales posted...

Of all the things you could have replied with, criticising me for doing the exact same thing you did is probably the stupidest.

what

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I heard yesterday biden got the most votes in american history. Well guess who still has a path to beating him? He got the second most votes ever. The race war is real and is about to pick up.

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Real talk, how do people know the stats?

I voted on election day, and nobody asked me if I was black or anything.

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Balrog0 posted...

It's pretty crazy because it was basically joe bidens pitch and it seems to have worked but in, a very joe biden way, everyone is still dissatisfied

I actually think they largely won on the back of the pandemic. Though Joe Biden probably did better than most would. I honestly don't know what Democrats need to do, but what they are doing isn't working. If things continue like this they will never retake the Senate and therefore never implement meaningful legislation or counteract the supreme court. If they got the Senate this time they could have made Puerto Rico a state and packed the SC, but I also feel like Dems in general don't like playing the game to win and still would have done little if anything of note. It's honestly depressing.

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ledbowman posted...

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Well, I can tell you this as a black man that I have not yet met ONE black person that actually thinks Trump helped with employment. Being "employed" because you work at McDonald's isn't necessarily a good thing either.

ok? they're wrong

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/czvwdf/chappelle-s-show-wacarnold-s---uncensored

ssjevot posted...

Check the preelection polls. It showed similar shifts.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-losing-ground-with-white-voters-but-gaining-among-black-and-hispanic-americans/

This screams regression to the mean to me, though.

I'm not a big fan of comparisons that only show subtracted metrics. I remain skeptical.

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Would the pandemic explain the demographic shifts?

It seems like the economy topped the pandemic per se as a concern for voters

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ssjevot posted...

Dems in general don't like playing the game to win and still would have done little if anything of note. It's honestly depressing.

Exactly. Its all the same Globalists and Zionists that win either way. Even with the senate, dems wouldn't have done **** about the courts and so they're basically a lame duck presidency. All hail McConnel, a real leader that gets things done. Sure he's the devil, but at least he wins.

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Ahhhhh theres that anti-Semitism we all know and hate

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I didn't really assume that. At least, I don't think I did. If republicans cut out the racist shit (lol), they'd probably get a number of more conservative minorities.
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Phynaster posted...

Ahhhhh theres that anti-Semitism we all know and hate

Going right to anti semitism, typical. Let me ask you, what president has done more for Israel, Russia, and North Korea than any other has? But that reality doesn't fit your narrative.

as long as we're name calling, who do you think nazi's voted for more? Biden or Trump?

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COVxy posted...

This screams regression to the mean to me, though.

But regression to the mean describes a tendency, it doesn't mean it didn't happen. That's an explanation, not a discount of the reality of the effect.

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shockthemonkey posted...

Bro what?

oh feigning ignorance? Who had multiple militias going after politicians to either kidnap or kill them. Was it dems or republicans that for those militias?

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Are people really allowed to post anti-Jewish conspiracy theories here? This is ridiculous.

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ssjevot posted...

But regression to the mean describes a tendency, it doesn't mean it didn't happen. That's an explanation, not a discount of the reality of the effect.

Regression to the mean describes a probabilistic effect. The underlying situation could be identical between 2016 and 2020. Meaning, ascribing causes like "democrats aren't reaching out to minorities enough" would be incorrect.

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