Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 338: Put your hands up for Detroit

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Inviso posted...

Yeah, I love how the Democrats had Antonin Scalia murdered in an election year while not controlling the Senate in order to ???

But strangely, when Ruth Bader Ginsburg dies a month before an election (that those same conspiracy theorists assumed the Democrats were going to cheat to win), allowing a rushed replacement with an ideologically-opposed judge, not a peep about foul play.

Now, I'm in no way saying Ginsburg was murdered or anything like that. Just that it's funny how conspiracy theorists only ever seem to believe conspiracies that harm the GOP and Conservatives (nominally, but in reality would require intense precision and skill from a group STILL incompetent enough to fail in executing their conspiracy).

Tony said the Corona got her. So we never looked more into it. Lol

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They could probably call Nevada already tbqh.

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main reason they don't want to is because doing so means calling the election for biden. they're just purposefully NOT doing that.

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Wanglicious posted...

main reason they don't want to is because doing so means calling the election for biden. they're just purposefully NOT doing that.

Arizona isn't called everywhere yet

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Corrik7 posted...

They could probably call Nevada already tbqh.

Is my updater not working? I still have Biden with a 12k lead.

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I'd love a Biden win, but yeah, I don't think Arizona is decided yet. Same with Georgia and Pennsylvania (though I think this one is very likely).

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Cnn has biden up roughly 10k in Nevada

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Im just here for the catch 22 of Fox News either retracting Arizona or calling Biden the new president

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Fox should just go ahead and declare Biden the winner in PA and save themselves the headache.

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But yeah, I can see them holding off on Nevada until either Arizona figures itself out or they are calling Georgia/Pennsylvania for Biden at the same time.

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Fox: "Joe Biden will be the next President of the United States. STAY TUNED FOR HOW HE WILL DESTROY AMERICA ON THE NEXT SEGMENT OF TUCKER CARLSON: JOE BIDEN - SO FAR LEFT HE MAKES BERNIE SANDERS LOOK LIKE RONALD REAGAN"

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charmander6000 posted...

Is my updater not working? I still have Biden with a 12k lead.

Trump area gave Biden a bigger lead.

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'and with that, we call PA for Biden and he has been elected the 46th president of the united states. also small correction, Arizona is called for Donald Trump'

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UltimaterializerX posted...

Even Nate Silver says no one should have called Arizona.

And Ulti says that Nate Silver has no credibility and no one should ever listen to him about anything.

So I presume this all means you want Arizona to be called.

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50401 left in Georgia
13540 lead

Need 63.5% left to overtake Trump.

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In Arizona, there was some kind of error with the data initially that led some desks (Id guess fox and AP since they're the ones with arizona marked) to think that Arizona was over, but once that data error was fixed, they just didn't want to rescind the call. Thats my understanding

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Another 10k votes added to outstanding Georgia total. Biden only needs 63% margin now.

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Yeah, somehow they were under the impression it was at 98% reported and when that got switched to 86% it was clear that AZ was still in play.

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Corrik7 posted...

50401 left in Georgia
13540 lead

Need 63.5% left to overtake Trump.

That's doable, but we are looking at the winner winning by less than 5000 votes, probably under 2000 votes.

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For anyone confused about GA continually increasing remaining votes, one factor is that if you have a rejected absentee ballot due to signature issues and didn't realize, you can go online to approve it until tomorrow night.

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Iowa Democractic Party in February: "It's taking some time to count all this,"
Nevada: "Hold my beer."

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also some of them just plain forgot to upload the votes. completely serious, it's what georgia's secretary of state said.

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1324403659845894145

you already know THAT one is running straight into the conspiracy checkbook.


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UltimaterializerX posted...

No, it means that even the most dishonest pollster on earth can see how idiotic that call was.

im supposed to trust the dishonest guy now? seems fishy
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Also 100% precincts reported does not mean that all ballots were counted. There could still be thousands that need to be counted. In other words, this is looking really good for Biden.

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Corrik7 posted...

Trump filed a lawsuit for his campaign to be there instead of the regular watchers. It was overturned when appealed after being granted initially.

The weirdest thing is this

Being anti democratic party because they are a bunch of bootlickers who appeal to rich people and are corrupt and don't make strides to actually make things better for people and just talk is totally reasonable.

But then also being pro trump and pro Republican party at the same time is some wiiiiiild cognitive dissonance

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I don't get it, but Trump-supporters see him as this kindly grandfather figure who is super benevolent with his money despite recorded video and mountains of evidence to the contrary.

Yesmar_ posted...

Iowa Democractic Party in February: "It's taking some time to count all this,"
Nevada: "Hold my beer."

"Then get me another one because I'm tired of counting ballots."

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i think it's largely a mix of his rhetoric with the people who hate him the most.
wall street quite hates him, despite the fact that his policies favored them well. the super wealthy generally align in that way and lined up hard behind biden.

neither party is good against them, both are bought and paid for. trump probably bought the least but his policies still favored them, with the exception of dealings with China. admittedly, that might be it for many. the only other option would be because trump puts the spotlight on them more than they'd like.

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PerfectChaosZ posted...

I don't get it, but Trump-supporters see him as this kindly grandfather figure who is super benevolent with his money despite recorded video and mountains of evidence to the contrary.

It's the same up here in Canada. Everyone rages on Trudeau for being incompetent and corrupt. Which he is. But by everyone I mean conservatives, who all support incompetent and corrupt conservative politicians.

It makes no sense.

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_stingers_ posted...

In Arizona, there was some kind of error with the data initially that led some desks (Id guess fox and AP since they're the ones with arizona marked) to think that Arizona was over, but once that data error was fixed, they just didn't want to rescind the call. Thats my understanding

No, Fox and AP werent using that data. They are saying they are confident in their own data. It doesnt necessarily make them RIGHT, but thats not the reason.

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_stingers_ posted...

In Arizona, there was some kind of error with the data initially that led some desks (Id guess fox and AP since they're the ones with arizona marked) to think that Arizona was over, but once that data error was fixed, they just didn't want to rescind the call. Thats my understanding

I still don't understand why they wouldn't uncall it, especially in Fox's case. If you uncall it in a short amount of time because there had been an error, literally no one would have cared much by now and they wouldn't be directly pissing off their own viewer base.

Edit: Nevermind now that I see Lightning's post.

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Also, it seems that even in Trump heavy counties in Georgia, Biden is still winning due to the mail-in votes there being Democratic.

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Wanglicious posted...

i think it's largely a mix of his rhetoric with the people who hate him the most.
wall street quite hates him, despite the fact that his policies favored them well. the super wealthy generally align in that way and lined up hard behind biden.

neither party is good against them, both are bought and paid for. trump probably bought the least but his policies still favored them, with the exception of dealings with China. admittedly, that might be it for many. the only other option would be because trump puts the spotlight on them more than they'd like.

How is trump bought the least when he IS a billionaire. He couldn't be more on the team.

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PA just said they expect to finish counting today.

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Meanwhile over on Earth 2 Marco Rubio is preparing to give his concession speech. He spent much of the election attacking Hillary over COVID Deaths hitting near 150k. But most people agree that Hillary handled the virus very well. Not helping his case either was the fact that he didn't exactly disagree with her actions and never had any answers for what he would've done better. Mail-in voting is expected to finish counting sometime next week, but all projections give Hillary the win.

And on Earth 3 Ayanna Pressley has just won the election in another landslide for Democrats after serving 8 years as Bernie Sanders VP. The popularity of USMP (United States Medicare Plan) on Earth 3 has made the US #1 in healthcare world wide since 4 years after its implementation during Jesse Jackson's first term in 1988. Republicans desire to cut funding from USMP during the COVID crisis, which sadly took the lives of nearly 90k people, cost them huge in the election as Pressley becomes the first female President and earned a whopping 451 Electoral Votes. Their election has been over for days, as Mail-In Voting has been popular since at least 2002. (Of course on Earth 3, the popular vote decides the election, but the Electoral Vote comes into play if the popular vote is within 2%)

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Clark County, Nevada's confirmed they won't be complete until the 12th.
that PS4 launch date looking pretty stacked!

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Wanglicious posted...

Clark County, Nevada's confirmed they won't be complete until the 12th.
that PS4 launch date looking pretty stacked!

Fake news.

It's the PS5

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Wanglicious posted...

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1324403659845894145

https://i.imgflip.com/1x0up9.jpg


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What states are we expecting to be called today

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pezzicle posted...

What states are we expecting to be called today

Georgia, maybe

That's it

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I'm expecting Georgia and Pennsylvania to be called today.

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pezzicle posted...

How is trump bought the least when he IS a billionaire. He couldn't be more on the team.

which is why his policies totally favor them too. they've totally gained more profits with trump. yet at the same time they don't actually favor him. not by funding, not by internal emails we've seen, not by business calls/notes we've seen, it's kind of bizarre. he's in that group but they hate him. his funding doesn't come from them and he doesn't seem to listen to them that much, he only cares if the stock ticker goes up.

granted, a lot of these documents that we've seen did assume it would be a biden presidency and a democratic senate. i don't think they were so ready for this situation but uh... honestly this works for them too. as usual, no matter who wins, they get the profits.


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Corrik7 posted...

PA just said they expect to finish counting today.

pezzicle posted...

What states are we expecting to be called today

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Wanglicious posted...

which is why his policies totally favor them too. they've totally gained more profits with trump. yet at the same time they don't actually favor him. not by funding, not by internal emails we've seen, not by business calls/notes we've seen, it's kind of bizarre. he's in that group but they hate him. his funding doesn't come from them and he doesn't seem to listen to them that much, he only cares if the stock ticker goes up.

granted, a lot of these documents that we've seen did assume it would be a biden presidency and a democratic senate. i don't think they were so ready for this situation but uh... honestly this works for them too. as usual, no matter who wins, they get the profits.

I'd argue that they reason they don't like him has more to do with how much he rocks the boat.

Rich people want the status quo to remind the same. Trump just wants power and part of that is money, but part of that is fame and respect from a portion of the population. So he has doubled down on his base. It does discord in the country and creates economic volatility, something billionaires don't want.

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KamikazePotato posted...

Georgia, maybe

That's it

Might actually include PA

https://twitter.com/ryanmatsumoto1/status/1324420356187172870
https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1324420147931729923

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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/04/election-2020-mcconnell-says-stimulus-will-be-senates-top-priority-before-end-of-2020.html

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If AZ flips to Trump I'll shave my head.

I just don't see it happening.

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