Poll of the Day > Why do people Care about Arizona and Georgia? Look at PENNSYLVANIA instead!!!!

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mrduckbear
11/04/20 9:52:43 PM
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Do you think Biden will take Pennsylvania and end this?


People seem to be clinging onto hopes of Biden clinching the win on Arizona cause of its 11 electoral votes but who cares. Just focus on Pennsylvania which many say based on the votes left and now he's down to 186,000 votes with millions left to count, it is for sure now that Biden will surpass Trump in the end and those 20 electoral votes will be the end of all this waiting.....

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Metalsonic66
11/04/20 9:53:58 PM
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GA usually goes red

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Soup_or_Science
11/04/20 9:54:50 PM
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I see your Winnie the Pooh and raise you a Pillsbury Doughboy

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Because eww, politics

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Zeus
11/04/20 9:59:29 PM
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People care about Arizona because we're going to get the results sooner. If Biden wins Arizona, then --- assuming that all other results stand -- he's won. If he doesn't get Arizona, it comes down to Pennsylvania. And if he doesn't get Pennsylvania or Georgia (and the reporting for the other states is correct)...

https://youtu.be/alaen4fno20?t=200

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streamofthesky
11/04/20 10:01:31 PM
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Zeus posted...
People care about Arizona because we're going to get the results sooner. If Biden wins Arizona, then --- assuming that all other results stand -- he's won. If he doesn't get Arizona, it comes down to Pennsylvania.
Also, Biden winning AZ means Mark Kelly wins his Senate race. So that's kinda important.

Also, I don't want a small victory, I want a good electoral vote cushion so trump's lawsuits and tantrums are completely and utterly futile.
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BlackScythe0
11/04/20 10:02:05 PM
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PA was about 172k like 2 hours ago, jumped back up to 196 and now it's in the 180s. GA is far closer 32.8k difference with the counties left to count favoring biden 60-70% and I haven't seen any jumps back towards Trump today.
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OhhhJa
11/04/20 10:07:18 PM
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mrduckbear posted...
with millions left to count

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streamofthesky
11/04/20 10:23:30 PM
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A Trump advisor apparently admitted the obvious, that if he loses GA, his campaign is dead.
Even if Trump got Arizona and PA, GA and NV would put Biden at 277 and really shut the door.
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Zeus
11/04/20 10:31:00 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
GA is far closer 32.8k difference with the counties left to count favoring biden 60-70% and I haven't seen any jumps back towards Trump today.

Georgia is also almost entirely counted. I considered it something of a done deal yesterday.

streamofthesky posted...
A Trump advisor apparently admitted the obvious, that if he loses GA, his campaign is dead.
Even if Trump got Arizona and PA, GA and NV would put Biden at 277 and really shut the door.

Damn you, math!

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BlackScythe0
11/04/20 11:22:37 PM
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Zeus posted...
Georgia is also almost entirely counted. I considered it something of a done deal yesterday.


So did I but right now it's sitting at a 31k difference with at least twice that amount still left to count and Biden has been getting the large majority of the vote being counted for Biden, while PA just recovered from the 20k boost in votes Trump got a few hours back.

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BADoglick
11/04/20 11:42:04 PM
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Biden only needs one state, it doesn't matter which

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streamofthesky
11/04/20 11:50:46 PM
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BADoglick posted...
Biden only needs one state, it doesn't matter which
Biden wins if he wins either:
PA
-or-
GA
-or-
AZ *and* NV (neither alone is enough)

Trump wins if he gets NC, GA, PA, and either NV or AZ.
If he get both NV and AZ, he can afford to lose either NC or GA (but not both)....I think?
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BlackScythe0
11/04/20 11:56:22 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
Biden wins if he wins either:
PA
-or-
GA
-or-
AZ *and* NV (neither alone is enough)

Trump wins if he gets NC, GA, PA, and either NV or AZ.
If he get both NV and AZ, he can afford to lose either NC or GA (but not both)....I think?

GA alone isn't enough that would result in a 269 269 tie.
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Muscles
11/04/20 11:59:42 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
GA alone isn't enough that would result in a 269 269 tie.
With the way tie breakers work, that would probably go in trump's favor, but who knows with how crazy everything been

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streamofthesky
11/05/20 12:01:49 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
GA alone isn't enough that would result in a 269 269 tie.
Oh, yeah...yikes.
Still, if he wins GA it'd be really weird if he lost all the rest...
I still think NV is pretty safe, would just like more votes in to be certain.
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SeahorseCpt89
11/05/20 12:04:51 AM
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Werent we supposed to get an update on Arizona by now?

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BlackScythe0
11/05/20 12:14:13 AM
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SeahorseCpt89 posted...
Werent we supposed to get an update on Arizona by now?

I think it was 12:30?
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streamofthesky
11/05/20 12:15:39 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
I think it was 12:30?
CNN just showed the Maricopa office.
Angry Trumpsters are outside and apparently it's being shut down for the night, out of safety concerns.

Not sure how that affects getting updates from other counties there, but what a dumpster fire.
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BlackScythe0
11/05/20 12:27:42 AM
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This is so fucking stupid Biden has a commanding lead on the popular vote our system is so broken.
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streamofthesky
11/05/20 12:36:32 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
This is so fucking stupid Biden has a commanding lead on the popular vote our system is so broken.
Forget where I saw it, but I think I recall reading that as a general rule, Democrats have to win the popular vote by 3% just to have a 50-50 chance at winning a presidential election.
And of course, if they lose the popular vote by any amount, they have no real chance.

It's so bs.
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Muscles
11/05/20 12:40:00 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
Forget where I saw it, but I think I recall reading that as a general rule, Democrats have to win the popular vote by 3% just to have a 50-50 chance at winning a presidential election.
And of course, if they lose the popular vote by any amount, they have no real chance.

It's so bs.
Why do people want cities to have all the power? The system is the way it is so all people of all backgrounds have an impact

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BlackScythe0
11/05/20 12:43:58 AM
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Muscles posted...
Why do people want cities to have all the power? The system is the way it is so all people of all backgrounds have an impact

No it's not
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Zareth
11/05/20 12:59:37 AM
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Muscles posted...
The system is the way it is so that the Republicans have a chance

Fix'd.

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Muscles
11/05/20 1:00:30 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
No it's not
Yeah it is, the real problem is all the gerrymandering

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BlackScythe0
11/05/20 1:03:45 AM
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The last Georgia Update was 4251 votes total Biden got 3586 or 84% of the votes.

Muscles posted...
Yeah it is, the real problem is all the gerrymandering

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Noop_Noop
11/05/20 2:34:56 AM
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You are the worst human being on this board, duckbear, and there are some seriously shitty people on this board. I should know, I am one of them.

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Nichtcrawler X
11/05/20 5:57:33 AM
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Muscles posted...
The system is the way it is so all people of all backgrounds have an impact

Because your vote being worth more or less, based merely on where you live, is truly democratic...

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YoukaiSlayer
11/05/20 6:10:58 AM
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It's not JUST that. I means if you lose your state election, your vote vanishes into the ether and doesn't matter. That's arguably the bigger problem. Also means your vote basically doesn't matter if your side easily wins the election in your state, even though your side might lose in the overall election. Terrible terrible system.

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Nichtcrawler X
11/05/20 6:15:01 AM
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Now I am wondering, what is the error margin on the final popular vote? If it is small enough that the outcome is guaranteed correct, why not just go with the popular vote?

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Clench281
11/05/20 7:04:40 AM
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Muscles posted...
Why do people want cities to have all the power? The system is the way it is so all people of all backgrounds have an impact

Lol wut? By all backgrounds you mean predominantly white people?

The 2010 Census reports that approximately 78 percent of the population in rural and small town communities are white and non- Hispanic, compared to 64 percent of the population in the nation as a whole.

(Which of course means that urban areas would need to be more diverse than the national average, for it to average out to 64 percent)

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BlackScythe0
11/05/20 10:18:31 AM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...
Now I am wondering, what is the error margin on the final popular vote? If it is small enough that the outcome is guaranteed correct, why not just go with the popular vote?
I'm not sure what you mean by error margin, but republicans have only won the popular vote once since 1988. Right now Biden has a good chunk of the popular vote and yet we remain concerned over whether he can win or not.
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