Current Events > Did you know you can go to jail if you don't pay rent?

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Questionmarktarius posted...

Stop paying your water bill for a couple months. Observe what happens.

My point is that human beings require water to stay alive.

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Shablagoo posted...

My point is that human beings require water to stay alive.

You can just filter and drink your own urine like in Waterworld

Godnorgosh posted...

Whoa, Balrog is adopting the s-word? Tell me he's not being facetious

It's like how some people are conservative 'just to own the libs'

I'd love to be a milquetoast moderate but they're too friendly with landlords

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treewojima posted...

You can just filter and drink your own urine like in Waterworld

Are you implying that there's a right to piss filters?

Balrog0 posted...

I'd love to be a milquetoast moderate but they're too friendly with landlords

White guys into socialism are the worst


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ssjevot posted...

The idea of no rent is interesting. It would be interesting to see what a society like that would look like.

Go ahead and imagine it. Give it a good think.

The first thing obvious to me, is that you'd have very little say in where you actually end up being assigned an apartment.

Ok? I don't see the problem, not paying rent is literal theft so that seems pretty fair IMO. Oh but that's right LaNdLoRds r BaD

Painfully obvious who here doesn't (and probably never will) own land. People like TC are the reason so many property owners are choosing not to renew leases and just selling off their properties, leading to housing shortages for renters and overall higher rent.

Pop a quarter in your asses folks, ya played yourselves with this stupid war on landlords.

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PoundGarden posted...

Pop a quarter in your asses

...the hell does that even mean?

I think most people know this.

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RedJackson posted...

White guys into socialism are the worst

Second worst, after you

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PoundGarden posted...

People like TC are the reason so many property owners are choosing not to renew leases and just selling off their properties, leading to housing shortages for renters and overall higher rent.

Wow I had no idea so many landlords existed in literally the only state with this policy and a population of 3 million people

So intelligent please enlighten me more sir

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Balrog0 posted...

Wow I had no idea so many landlords existed in literally the only state with this policy and a population of 3 million people

Well, I mean, that's definitely an incentive to be a landlord.

Oh yeah definitely

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Balrog0 posted...

Wow I had no idea so many landlords existed in literally the only state with this policy and a population of 3 million people

So intelligent please enlighten me more sir

So are you intetionally pretending nationwide protections weren't extended to renters that royally screwed over landlords or are you just ignorant on the overall crisis?

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Questionmarktarius posted...

Go ahead and imagine it. Give it a good think.

The first thing obvious to me, is that you'd have very little say in where you actually end up being assigned an apartment.

Saying it is interesting doesn't mean I think it would turn out well. I would like to see what would happen. Some of my in-laws in China are landlords and they just basically are on vacation all the time and don't actually do anything. I don't know any landlords in the US, but I imagine many people have similar lives. You can see why that kind of lifestyle would anger people who pay rent. Not saying life would be better without rent, but I am saying it would be interesting to see what that would be like.

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So people like tc just want everything for free and not working and want government pay for everything.

If everyone want to become like tc where the government will get money to cover all off this?
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Balrog0 posted...

Second worst, after you

Oh yeah? Lol Im not as bad as you think tbh but youre over here are riding hot political steam that put us here in the first place

edit: yknow, I can realize a cheap blow when I see one - the white card yeh.. I felt bad about that one lol

but indoctrinating yourself to the cult of Marx is no bueno

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PoundGarden posted...

So are you intetionally pretending nationwide protections weren't extended to renters that royally screwed over landlords or are you just ignorant on the overall crisis?

if landlords want to make money, they should consider getting a job

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Aki_Sora posted...

So people like tc just want everything for free and not working and want government pay for everything.

If everyone want to become like tc where the government will get money to cover all off this?

But that's kind of the thing. A number of landlords don't work and their tenants pay for everything. You could even think of a government as a giant landlord that collects taxes on its citizens (tenants). You can see why it upsets people even if there may not be an ideal alternative.

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shockthemonkey posted...

...are you actually opposed to nation wide protections that are preventing a massive spike in homelessness?

Not necessarily, however I am greatly opposed to the "sucks to suck" attitude shown towards landowners. How is it fair that tenants dont have to pay rent, but landlords still need to pay their mortgages? It's not.

averagejoel posted...

if landlords want to make money, they should consider getting a job

What an odd way to let everyone know you're immature af and have zero concept of how economies and land ownership works. It's adorable that you seem to think renting property isnt a job un itself and the landlords didnt, y'know, work to acquire their properties.

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ssjevot posted...

But that's kind of the thing. A number of landlords don't work and their tenants pay for everything. You could even think of a government as a giant landlord that collects taxes on its citizens (tenants). You can see why it upsets people even if there may not be an ideal alternative.

And how did they acquire those properties in the first place? A high stake game of cards?

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PoundGarden posted...

How is it fair that tenants dont have to pay rent, but landlords still need to pay their mortgages?

Youre asking how it is fair that landlords should have to work to own the properties that they want to own instead of having other people do the work for them.

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ssjevot posted...

But that's kind of the thing. A number of landlords don't work and their tenants pay for everything. You could even think of a government as a giant landlord that collects taxes on its citizens (tenants). You can see why it upsets people even if there may not be an ideal alternative.

I mean where government get money to pay hospital, school, electric, water, road,food and build house if everyone don't want to work and don't want to pay tax?
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Aki_Sora posted...

I mean where government get money to pay hospital, school, electric, water, road,food and build house if everyone don't want to work and don't want to pay tax?

That's why said an ideal alternative may not exist. I am simply saying you can't expect someone to pay rent and watch someone else living their life doing whatever they want off rent money not having to work and expect them not to be upset. That doesn't mean I think abolishing rent is a solution. I am simply saying I understand why people feel that way. I think it would be interesting to see what would happen without rent just as an experiment, not because I think a utopia would break out.

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ssjevot posted...

That's why said an ideal alternative may not exist. I am simply saying you can't expect someone to pay rent and watch someone else living their life doing whatever they want off rent money not having to work and expect them not to be upset. That doesn't mean I think abolishing rent is a solution. I am simply saying I understand why people feel that way. I think it would be interesting to see what would happen without rent just as an experiment, not because I think a utopia would break out.

Ohh. Now I understood.
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RedJackson posted...

Lol Im not as bad as you think tbh

Lol whatever you say bud

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PoundGarden posted...

And how did they acquire those properties in the first place? A high stake game of cards?

I mean it depends. My in-laws in China simply got lucky and their land became extremely valuable. They technically had the land from the post-cultural revolution redistribution. So likely in the past someone else had the land, was killed, my in-laws received it, and then thanks to chance the land became so valuable they could just rent it out and become extremely wealthy. That's actually a common story in Beijing among landlords. Probably elsewhere too. I don't know landlords in the US, but I assume some also inherited land that became valuable and then proceeded to rent it out.

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Shablagoo posted...

Youre asking how it is fair that landlords should have to work to own the properties that they want to own instead of having other people do the work for them.

Nooooooo, I'm saying why are their government protections for people who dont pay their rent right now and nothing place for landlords who still have to pay their mortgage while their tenants live essentially rent free. Try to keep up

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All those big words, and you said nothing. If that's your takeaway from my very simple stance of "if the gov is going to give renters a free pass, landlords deserve the same protections" then LMAO.
You people demonizing landowners for wanting what is rightfuly theirs OR failing that the same protections afforded to tenants speaks volumes as to where you're at in life, grow up.

Definitely worth engaging indeed

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PoundGarden posted...

So are you intetionally pretending nationwide protections weren't extended to renters that royally screwed over landlords or are you just ignorant on the overall crisis?

What does that have to do with criminal evictions that have continued during said moratorium?

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Balrog0 posted...

Nah we're gonna literally go into your suburban home and take your stuff to make public housing

. Come try. I grew up in south side Chicago. We had two rooms. My room was a closet. No one is taking my house I spent my whole life working for now

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ssjevot posted...

I mean it depends. My in-laws in China simply got lucky and their land become extremely valuable. The technically had the land from the post-cultural revolution redistribution. So likely in the past someone else had the land, was killed, my in-laws received it, and then thanks to chance the land became so valuable they could just rent it out and become extremely wealthy. That's actually a common story in Beijing among landlords. Probably elsewhere too. I don't know landlords in the US, but I assume some also inherited land that became valuable and then proceeded to rent it out.

Awesome, let's apply legacy property policies from China to the modern day US. I mean, surely you're anecdotal evidence is the norm, right? Most people inherit property and dont actually work for it, is that seriously the crux of your argument? I hope not, because you're wrong lol

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PoundGarden posted...

You people demonizing landowners for wanting what is rightfuly theirs OR failing that the same protections afforded to tenants speaks volumes as to where you're at in life, grow up.

You came into this topic about how people who couldn't pay rent are going to jail to complain that landlords aren't being given enough leeway

If I were still a liberal I'd be shocked over the mental contortions

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Balrog0 posted...

What does that have to do with criminal evictions that have continued during said moratorium?

Literally everything. What an odd way to broadcast your abysmal reading comprehension

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PoundGarden posted...

Nooooooo, I'm saying why are their government protections for people who dont pay their rent right now and nothing place for landlords who still have to pay their mortgage while their tenants live essentially rent free.

Oh, I see, yeah that would make sense. However, under normal (non-pandemic) circumstances most landlords depend on rent to pay their mortgage which is just asinine. Theyre building equity on someone elses dime.

Try to keep up

Shut the fuck up

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Balrog0 posted...

You came into this topic about how people who couldn't pay rent are going to jail to complain that landlords aren't being given enough leeway

If I were still a liberal I'd be shocked over the mental contortions

And yt another swing and a miss

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PoundGarden posted...

Awesome, let's apply legacy property policies from China to the modern day US. I mean, surely you're anecdotal evidence is the norm, right? Most people inherit property and dont actually work for it, is that seriously the crux of your argument? I hope not, because you're wrong lol

You realize my entire argument is I understand why rent upsets people and not I think rent should be abolished? I simply said it would be interesting to see what a society with no rent would look like and some people are acting like I am advocating the communist revolution in their backyard.

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PoundGarden posted...

And yt another swing and a miss

Uuuuh ok

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PoundGarden posted...

Literally everything. What an odd way to broadcast your abysmal reading comprehension

A policy dating back to the early 1900s has everything to do with the months old pandemic? I posted another article from 2015, though I'm sure you didn't even read the one in the op


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If were talking about inherited land, this is relevant:

https://www.businessinsider.com/over-half-of-the-biggest-landowners-in-the-us-inherited-their-land-2019-4

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Shablagoo posted...

Oh, I see, yeah that would make sense. However, under normal (non-pandemic) circumstances most landlords depend on rent to pay their mortgage which is just asinine. Theyre building equity on someone elses dime.

Wait, so now your position is it's ok for landlords to charge rent, but it's unethical to do so during a pandemic? How convenient and immature.

And people like you wonder why affordable housing is harder and harder to come by. It's not worth it. Any time a tenant falls on hard times for whatever reason the landlord is an evil prick for wanting their money. Grow the fuck up and tell me any other business that let's that shit fly LMAO

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darkprince45 posted...

. Come try. I grew up in south side Chicago. We had two rooms. My room was a closet. No one is taking my house I spent my whole life working for now

I thought you lived in Vegas? Are you in Henderson or something? Vegas doesn't require residency for city employees? Or is it like a unified force thing

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Shablagoo posted...

If were talking about inherited land, this is relevant:

https://www.businessinsider.com/over-half-of-the-biggest-landowners-in-the-us-inherited-their-land-2019-4

Nice cherry pick. You'd almost have a point I the article wasnt about the *biggest* land owners, not your avg dude who rents 1-3 properties.

Swing and a derp

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PoundGarden posted...

What an odd way to let everyone know you're immature af and have zero concept of how economies and land ownership works. It's adorable that you seem to think renting property isnt a job un itself and the landlords didnt, y'know, work to acquire their properties.

owning something, regardless of whether or not that thing makes you money, is not a job

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PoundGarden posted...

Wait, so now your position is it's ok for landlords to charge rent, but it's unethical to do so during a pandemic? How convenient and immature.

What? No. I said the opposite of that. By charging rent they are building equity on someone elses money.

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PoundGarden posted...

Nice cherry pick. You'd almost have a point I the article wasnt about the *biggest* land owners, not your avg dude who rents 1-3 properties.

Swing and a derp

It wasnt in response to you, just a relevant piece of information. A lot of property is inherited.

But hey everyone, we should probably stop engaging with a New User 48 karma alt.

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shockthemonkey posted...

That didnt explain why affordable housing is hard to come by at all

Sigh...

Renters have protections to allow them to squat and not pay rent.

Landlord cannot pay mortgage now. Bank gives zero fucks.

Eventually property owner sells for what they can get or bank seized property.

Now landlord has no land, tenant has no affordable housing as demand outpaces supply since banks own empty properties now.

Whew, that was a thinker.

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