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sLaCkEr408___RJ 10/27/20 12:05:43 PM #51:	southcoast09 posted... This should have been included in the stimulus. For the amount of money that they government spent to bail out Wall Street, they could have paid our rent for a few months. Once they did, they would realize how sadistic and unfair the rent prices are, and then put a cap on it. When the landlords find that the average person is taking home a little bit more money, the rent instantly goes up on the next lease. This has got to stop because theyre taking so much that people cant save for retirement and we cant save to actually buy our own house to get out of the $1500/month rent prices. In our current system, landlords and tenants enter a contract. Renters agree on a price and also agree that the price may go up after the lease is over. Stimulus definitely would have helped everyone. I Like Toast posted... people have been blaming the government's inability to manage the pandemic and deciding it was more important to shove a supreme court justice a week before an election then to actually help people. But here's the shock that's going to blow your mind. You can also blame the piece of shit landlords who are abusing a pandemic to be pieces of shit. It's just hard for me to call them pieces of shit when everyone is being affected by the pandemic. <cite>sLaCkEr408___RJ posted [p:946364839] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>southcoast09 posted... </cite> <quote>This should have been included in the stimulus. For the amount of money that they government spent to bail out Wall Street, they could have paid our rent for a few months. Once they did, they would realize how sadistic and unfair the rent prices are, and then put a cap on it. When the landlords find that the average person is taking home a little bit more money, the rent instantly goes up on the next lease. This has got to stop because theyre taking so much that people cant save for retirement and we cant save to actually buy our own house to get out of the $1500/month rent prices.</quote>In our current system, landlords and tenants enter a contract. Renters agree on a price and also agree that the price may go up after the lease is over. Stimulus definitely would have helped everyone. I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>people have been blaming the government's inability to manage the pandemic and deciding it was more important to shove a supreme court justice a week before an election then to actually help people. But here's the shock that's going to blow your mind. You can also blame the piece of shit landlords who are abusing a pandemic to be pieces of shit.</quote>It's just hard for me to call them pieces of shit when everyone is being affected by the pandemic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedJackson 10/27/20 12:05:52 PM #52:	Balrog0 posted... In this case being cool like me means having different standards for renters and landlords because I like landlords Absolutely and reasoning is quite simple: renters have millions of choices, landowners are stuck on one plot of land Nevermind the fact that they have 'earned' their way to property while a renter.. rents lol Now what those 'standards' entail can be definitely be made more fair and more protections can be added for renters, especially during a pandemic or unexpected lay-offs But we first need to curb the ever growing wave of people who got on to this idea that it's "shocking" landowners have an advantage to begin with --- https://imgur.com/e6aBSof - Pus_N_Pecans original! https://imgur.com/bve6U7T - Error1335 original! <cite>RedJackson posted [p:946364848] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>In this case being cool like me means having different standards for renters and landlords because I like landlords</quote> Absolutely and reasoning is quite simple: renters have millions of choices, landowners are stuck on one plot of land Nevermind the fact that they have 'earned' their way to property while a renter.. rents lol Now what those 'standards' entail can be definitely be made more fair and more protections can be added for renters, especially during a pandemic or unexpected lay-offs But we first need to curb the ever growing wave of people who got on to this idea that it's "shocking" landowners have an advantage to begin with </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/27/20 12:06:36 PM #53:	Balrog0 posted... Have you considered reading the article before posting? The article that spins criminal trespass into class-warfare pandering? Yes. Go ahead and move evictions in AR to civil court. What have you accomplished, other than needing to run fewer fingerprints at a police station? The sheriff is still going to have to physically remove evicted tenants. It's still going to be tied up in the courts, with lawyers and judges and the whole circus. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:946364871] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>Have you considered reading the article before posting?</quote>The article that spins criminal trespass into class-warfare pandering? Yes. Go ahead and move evictions in AR to civil court. What have you accomplished, other than needing to run fewer fingerprints at a police station? The sheriff is still going to have to physically remove evicted tenants. It's still going to be tied up in the courts, with lawyers and judges and the whole circus. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 10/27/20 12:07:44 PM #54:	Not going to your court case is a pretty dumb move. Landlords still suck though. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:946364919] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Not going to your court case is a pretty dumb move. Landlords still suck though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 10/27/20 12:07:48 PM #55:	From 2015 https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015/04/16/can-you-go-to-jail-for-not-paying-rent On an otherwise unremarkable day last July, Artoria Smith of Little Rock, Ark. was in her kitchen with an armful of laundry when, she says, she fell through the floor. Before she knew it, her refrigerator had sunk halfway into the basement. Thats how she learned that the floors in her townhouse, where she had lived for more than 20 years, were rotting. According to Smith and her attorney, she called her landlord, Primo Novero, and also registered a complaint with the citys housing authority, regarding a number of unsafe conditions in the house. Novero came over, placed a plank of wood over the hole in the floorboards, and asked her for $700, which he estimated to be THE COST OF REPAIRS1. She told him she only had $400, her usual rent. He left. THE COST OF REPAIRS1 Arkansas is the only state in the nation with no "implied warranty of habitality," meaning that the state's landlords are not legally responsible for repairs and maintenance. Hours later, he returned, armed with a green slip Ten-Day Notice to Vacate, it said and told her that she owed $22,353 in back rent, a sum she says he came up with out of the blue as payback for reporting him. Smith, who supports her 15-year-old son, Willie, on a fixed income, says she could not afford the deposit for a new apartment on such short notice. After ten days, the police showed up at Smiths door, and fingerprinted her in her house. They had a warrant for her arrest, but, mainly because the city jails were overcrowded, she was not officially arrested. Several weeks later, Smith was found guilty of failure to vacate her home. She was now a convicted criminal. --- https://blackmalevoterproject.org/ <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:946364922] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>From 2015 https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015/04/16/can-you-go-to-jail-for-not-paying-rent On an otherwise unremarkable day last July, Artoria Smith of Little Rock, Ark. was in her kitchen with an armful of laundry when, she says, she fell through the floor. Before she knew it, her refrigerator had sunk halfway into the basement. Thats how she learned that the floors in her townhouse, where she had lived for more than 20 years, were rotting. According to Smith and her attorney, she called her landlord, Primo Novero, and also registered a complaint with the citys housing authority, regarding a number of unsafe conditions in the house. Novero came over, placed a plank of wood over the hole in the floorboards, and asked her for $700, which he estimated to be THE COST OF REPAIRS1. She told him she only had $400, her usual rent. He left. THE COST OF REPAIRS1 Arkansas is the only state in the nation with no "implied warranty of habitality," meaning that the state's landlords are not legally responsible for repairs and maintenance. Hours later, he returned, armed with a green slip Ten-Day Notice to Vacate, it said and told her that she owed $22,353 in back rent, a sum she says he came up with out of the blue as payback for reporting him. Smith, who supports her 15-year-old son, Willie, on a fixed income, says she could not afford the deposit for a new apartment on such short notice. After ten days, the police showed up at Smiths door, and fingerprinted her in her house. They had a warrant for her arrest, but, mainly because the city jails were overcrowded, she was not officially arrested. Several weeks later, Smith was found guilty of failure to vacate her home. She was now a convicted criminal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 10/27/20 12:09:19 PM #56:	Questionmarktarius posted... The article that spins criminal trespass into class-warfare pandering? Yes. Lmfao so no you didn't Questionmarktarius posted... Go ahead and move evictions in AR to civil court. What have you accomplished, other than needing to run fewer fingerprints at a police station? The sheriff is still going to have to physically remove evicted tenants. It's still going to be tied up in They specifically address this, for one thing --- https://blackmalevoterproject.org/ <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:946364975] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>The article that spins criminal trespass into class-warfare pandering? Yes.</quote> Lmfao so no you didn't Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Go ahead and move evictions in AR to civil court. What have you accomplished, other than needing to run fewer fingerprints at a police station? The sheriff is still going to have to physically remove evicted tenants. It's still going to be tied up in</quote> They specifically address this, for one thing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 10/27/20 12:11:17 PM #57:	RedJackson posted... Absolutely and reasoning is quite simple: renters have millions of choices, landowners are stuck on one plot of land Nevermind the fact that they have 'earned' their way to property while a renter.. rents lol Neither of these sentiments are true RedJackson posted... Now what those 'standards' entail can be definitely be made more fair and more protections can be added for renters, especially during a pandemic or unexpected lay-offs But we first need to curb the ever growing wave of people who got on to this idea that it's "shocking" landowners have an advantage to begin with How about we stop criminalizing the nonpayment of rent first? --- https://blackmalevoterproject.org/ <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:946365056] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>RedJackson posted... </cite> <quote> Absolutely and reasoning is quite simple: renters have millions of choices, landowners are stuck on one plot of land Nevermind the fact that they have 'earned' their way to property while a renter.. rents lol</quote> Neither of these sentiments are true RedJackson posted... </cite> <quote>Now what those 'standards' entail can be definitely be made more fair and more protections can be added for renters, especially during a pandemic or unexpected lay-offs But we first need to curb the ever growing wave of people who got on to this idea that it's "shocking" landowners have an advantage to begin with</quote> How about we stop criminalizing the nonpayment of rent first? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/27/20 12:14:05 PM #58:	Balrog0 posted... How about we stop criminalizing the nonpayment of rent first? ...right after we stop criminalizing the nonpayment of property tax. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:946365172] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>How about we stop criminalizing the nonpayment of rent first?</quote>...right after we stop criminalizing the nonpayment of property tax. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 10/27/20 12:15:26 PM #59:	Balrog0 posted... From 2015 https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015/04/16/can-you-go-to-jail-for-not-paying-rent On an otherwise unremarkable day last July, Artoria Smith of Little Rock, Ark. was in her kitchen with an armful of laundry when, she says, she fell through the floor. Before she knew it, her refrigerator had sunk halfway into the basement. Thats how she learned that the floors in her townhouse, where she had lived for more than 20 years, were rotting. According to Smith and her attorney, she called her landlord, Primo Novero, and also registered a complaint with the citys housing authority, regarding a number of unsafe conditions in the house. Novero came over, placed a plank of wood over the hole in the floorboards, and asked her for $700, which he estimated to be THE COST OF REPAIRS1. She told him she only had $400, her usual rent. He left. THE COST OF REPAIRS1 Arkansas is the only state in the nation with no "implied warranty of habitality," meaning that the state's landlords are not legally responsible for repairs and maintenance. Hours later, he returned, armed with a green slip Ten-Day Notice to Vacate, it said and told her that she owed $22,353 in back rent, a sum she says he came up with out of the blue as payback for reporting him. Smith, who supports her 15-year-old son, Willie, on a fixed income, says she could not afford the deposit for a new apartment on such short notice. After ten days, the police showed up at Smiths door, and fingerprinted her in her house. They had a warrant for her arrest, but, mainly because the city jails were overcrowded, she was not officially arrested. Several weeks later, Smith was found guilty of failure to vacate her home. She was now a convicted criminal. That's terrible.... both the non guarantee of habitability and resulting conviction <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:946365216] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>From 2015 https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015/04/16/can-you-go-to-jail-for-not-paying-rent On an otherwise unremarkable day last July, Artoria Smith of Little Rock, Ark. was in her kitchen with an armful of laundry when, she says, she fell through the floor. Before she knew it, her refrigerator had sunk halfway into the basement. Thats how she learned that the floors in her townhouse, where she had lived for more than 20 years, were rotting. According to Smith and her attorney, she called her landlord, Primo Novero, and also registered a complaint with the citys housing authority, regarding a number of unsafe conditions in the house. Novero came over, placed a plank of wood over the hole in the floorboards, and asked her for $700, which he estimated to be THE COST OF REPAIRS1. She told him she only had $400, her usual rent. He left. THE COST OF REPAIRS1 Arkansas is the only state in the nation with no "implied warranty of habitality," meaning that the state's landlords are not legally responsible for repairs and maintenance. Hours later, he returned, armed with a green slip Ten-Day Notice to Vacate, it said and told her that she owed $22,353 in back rent, a sum she says he came up with out of the blue as payback for reporting him. Smith, who supports her 15-year-old son, Willie, on a fixed income, says she could not afford the deposit for a new apartment on such short notice. After ten days, the police showed up at Smiths door, and fingerprinted her in her house. They had a warrant for her arrest, but, mainly because the city jails were overcrowded, she was not officially arrested. Several weeks later, Smith was found guilty of failure to vacate her home. She was now a convicted criminal.</quote>That's terrible.... both the non guarantee of habitability and resulting conviction </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 10/27/20 12:17:22 PM #60:	Questionmarktarius posted... ...right after we stop criminalizing the nonpayment of property tax. That is already the case, the worst that will happen to you is a tax lien unless you are actually defrauding someone (even then it will need to show up in your income taxes to land you in jail most likely) why are you the way you are --- https://blackmalevoterproject.org/ <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:946365282] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>...right after we stop criminalizing the nonpayment of property tax.</quote> That is already the case, the worst that will happen to you is a tax lien unless you are actually defrauding someone (even then it will need to show up in your income taxes to land you in jail most likely) why are you the way you are </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sLaCkEr408___RJ 10/27/20 12:17:33 PM #61:	Ruvan22 posted... That's terrible.... both the non guarantee of habitability and resulting conviction Should have a longer notice <cite>sLaCkEr408___RJ posted [p:946365290] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite> <quote>That's terrible.... both the non guarantee of habitability and resulting conviction</quote>Should have a longer notice </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/27/20 12:18:12 PM #62:	Aren't debtors prisons literally unconstitutional? Has anybody actually challenged that state law and appealed it up to the Federal level? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:946365310] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Aren't debtors prisons literally unconstitutional? Has anybody actually challenged that state law and appealed it up to the Federal level? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/27/20 12:18:33 PM #63:	Balrog0 posted... why are you the way you are invisible-hand evangelism <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:946365324] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>why are you the way you are</quote>invisible-hand evangelism </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 10/27/20 12:19:05 PM #64:	s0nicfan posted... Aren't debtors prisons literally unconstitutional? Has anybody actually challenged that state law and appealed it up to the Federal level? The article notes that one judicial circuit struck it down as unconstitutional, but the state didn't appeal to a higher court so the precedent only applies there --- https://blackmalevoterproject.org/ <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:946365343] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite> <quote>Aren't debtors prisons literally unconstitutional? Has anybody actually challenged that state law and appealed it up to the Federal level?</quote> The article notes that one judicial circuit struck it down as unconstitutional, but the state didn't appeal to a higher court so the precedent only applies there </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 10/27/20 12:19:35 PM #65:	RedJackson posted... Nevermind the fact that they have 'earned' their way to property while a renter.. rents lol Renters literally pay landlords mortgages for them. --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:946365366] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>RedJackson posted... </cite> <quote>Nevermind the fact that they have 'earned' their way to property while a renter.. rents lol</quote> Renters literally pay landlords mortgages for them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sLaCkEr408___RJ 10/27/20 12:22:43 PM #66:	Shablagoo posted... Renters literally pay landlords mortgages for them. Who paid the downpayment and closing costs? <cite>sLaCkEr408___RJ posted [p:946365461] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>Renters literally pay landlords mortgages for them.</quote>Who paid the downpayment and closing costs? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedJackson 10/27/20 12:24:03 PM #67:	Balrog0 posted... How about we stop criminalizing the nonpayment of rent first? Y'knowwww, considering the mindset of total apprehension towards landowners... nah, I don't see that as a good idea But if you want me to work on a more practical level and if you're asking me 'what direction will you really go for the good of people' the answer is: sure I don't mind a case or two detailing the realities of not paying rent or not having anything saved up, it serves as a real smack to the face and society needs that every now and then --- https://imgur.com/e6aBSof - Pus_N_Pecans original! https://imgur.com/bve6U7T - Error1335 original! <cite>RedJackson posted [p:946365523] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote> How about we stop criminalizing the nonpayment of rent first?</quote> Y'knowwww, considering the mindset of total apprehension towards landowners... nah, I don't see that as a good idea But if you want me to work on a more practical level and if you're asking me 'what direction will you really go for the good of people' the answer is: sure I don't mind a case or two detailing the realities of not paying rent or not having anything saved up, it serves as a real smack to the face and society needs that every now and then </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 10/27/20 12:24:29 PM #68:	Balrog0 posted... why are you the way you are I ask myself this all the time and don't understand why he isn't given the same level of scorn UR is --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/S1m3po4 https://imgur.com/7fCcfko <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:946365539] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>why are you the way you are</quote> I ask myself this all the time and don't understand why he isn't given the same level of scorn UR is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 10/27/20 12:25:04 PM #69:	sLaCkEr408___RJ posted... Who paid the downpayment and closing costs? A bank, most likely --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/S1m3po4 https://imgur.com/7fCcfko <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:946365558] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...</cite> <quote> Who paid the downpayment and closing costs? </quote> A bank, most likely</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedJackson 10/27/20 12:25:32 PM #70:	Shablagoo posted... Renters literally pay landlords mortgages for them. You pay interest to a bank, so what? It's not like they're suddenly 'in-debt' to you for that. There's a business relationship there for a 'product' and 'service' including your welfare Basically, they won the game fair and square by saving up their money to have the strongest set piece you can have: property --- https://imgur.com/e6aBSof - Pus_N_Pecans original! https://imgur.com/bve6U7T - Error1335 original! <cite>RedJackson posted [p:946365570] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>Renters literally pay landlords mortgages for them.</quote> You pay interest to a bank, so what? It's not like they're suddenly 'in-debt' to you for that. There's a business relationship there for a 'product' and 'service' including your welfare Basically, they won the game fair and square by saving up their money to have the strongest set piece you can have: property </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/27/20 12:25:34 PM #71:	RedJackson posted... Y'knowwww, considering the mindset of total apprehension towards landowners... nah, I don't see that as a good idea I dunno. Until it becomes trespassing, it's just a contract dispute. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:946365572] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>RedJackson posted... </cite> <quote>Y'knowwww, considering the mindset of total apprehension towards landowners... nah, I don't see that as a good idea</quote>I dunno. Until it becomes trespassing, it's just a contract dispute. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sLaCkEr408___RJ 10/27/20 12:26:53 PM #72:	Bio1590 posted... A bank, most likely Do you know the process of home buying? I just don't understand your answer. Why would a bank pay for someone's home <cite>sLaCkEr408___RJ posted [p:946365620] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Bio1590 posted... </cite> <quote>A bank, most likely</quote>Do you know the process of home buying? I just don't understand your answer. Why would a bank pay for someone's home </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/27/20 12:28:04 PM #73:	sLaCkEr408___RJ posted... Do you know the process of home buying? I just don't understand your answer. Why would a bank pay for someone's home Why have a "no evictions!!" policy without also having a "no foreclosures!!" policy? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:946365657] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>sLaCkEr408___RJ posted... </cite> <quote>Do you know the process of home buying? I just don't understand your answer. Why would a bank pay for someone's home</quote>Why have a "no evictions!!" policy without also having a "no foreclosures!!" policy? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sLaCkEr408___RJ 10/27/20 12:29:10 PM #74:	Questionmarktarius posted... Why have a "no evictions!!" policy without also having a "no foreclosures!!" policy? Doesn't help me understand the previous answer, but that's a good question. <cite>sLaCkEr408___RJ posted [p:946365690] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Why have a "no evictions!!" policy without also having a "no foreclosures!!" policy?</quote>Doesn't help me understand the previous answer, but that's a good question. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 10/27/20 12:29:42 PM #75:	RedJackson posted... Y'knowwww, considering the mindset of total apprehension towards landowners... nah, I don't see that as a good idea And that's why I'm asking @Antifar @averagejoel and @Godnorgosh to give me an intro reading list for socialism RedJackson posted... But if you want me to work on a more practical level and if you're asking me 'what direction will you really go for the good of people' the answer is: sure Very admirable (?) --- https://blackmalevoterproject.org/ <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:946365706] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>RedJackson posted... </cite> <quote>Y'knowwww, considering the mindset of total apprehension towards landowners... nah, I don't see that as a good idea</quote> And that's why I'm asking @Antifar @averagejoel and @Godnorgosh to give me an intro reading list for socialism RedJackson posted... </cite> <quote>But if you want me to work on a more practical level and if you're asking me 'what direction will you really go for the good of people' the answer is: sure</quote> Very admirable (?) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/27/20 12:31:17 PM #76:	Balrog0 posted... And that's why I'm asking @Antifar @averagejoel and @Godnorgosh to give me an intro reading list for socialism There's a link to Das Kapital up there somewhere. Also, don't pay for Marx. That's just hypocritical. https://www.marxists.org/ <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:946365767] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>And that's why I'm asking @Antifar @averagejoel and @Godnorgosh to give me an intro reading list for socialism</quote>There's a link to Das Kapital up there somewhere. Also, don't pay for Marx. That's just hypocritical. https://www.marxists.org/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExtremeLuchador 10/27/20 12:32:31 PM #78:	Arkansas also no rental habituality laws. Like it's legal for them to charge you rent on a place with sewage shooting out of the front yard. --- "It was horrible," guard Jeff McInnis said. "I took 100 naps and we were still in the air." <cite>ExtremeLuchador posted [p:946365808] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Arkansas also no rental habituality laws. Like it's legal for them to charge you rent on a place with sewage shooting out of the front yard. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 10/27/20 12:33:07 PM #79:	Conflict posted... Arkansas doesn't even deserve its own pronunciation. Should just start calling it are-kansas from now on Arkansas is a francophone pronunciation while kansas is the English --- https://blackmalevoterproject.org/ <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:946365826] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>Arkansas doesn't even deserve its own pronunciation. Should just start calling it are-kansas from now on</quote> Arkansas is a francophone pronunciation while kansas is the English </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 10/27/20 12:33:45 PM #80:	ExtremeLuchador posted... Arkansas also no rental habituality laws. Like it's legal for them to charge you rent on a place with sewage shooting out of the front yard. I linked to an article where someone fell through their floor, their landlord charge them 20k for it, then evicted them using criminal charges --- https://blackmalevoterproject.org/ <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:946365844] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>ExtremeLuchador posted... </cite> <quote>Arkansas also no rental habituality laws. Like it's legal for them to charge you rent on a place with sewage shooting out of the front yard.</quote> I linked to an article where someone fell through their floor, their landlord charge them 20k for it, then evicted them using criminal charges </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/27/20 12:33:56 PM #81:	ExtremeLuchador posted... Like it's legal for them to charge you rent on a place with sewage shooting out of the front yard. If you're not getting a really sweet deal on the rent, that's on you. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:946365850] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>ExtremeLuchador posted... </cite> <quote>Like it's legal for them to charge you rent on a place with sewage shooting out of the front yard.</quote>If you're not getting a really sweet deal on the rent, that's on you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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g980 10/27/20 12:46:19 PM #84:	Im on board with not criminalizing the eviction process but jfc @Balrog0 the shitposting itt is a disappointing look on you --- These old bones live to learn her wanton ways: (I measure time by how a body sways). <cite>g980 posted [p:946366284] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Im on board with not criminalizing the eviction process but jfc @Balrog0 the shitposting itt is a disappointing look on you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
superXY 10/27/20 12:48:53 PM #85:	Wait, do people in this topic actually think someone should be able to live somewhere owned and operated by someone else for free? --- "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function." <cite>superXY posted [p:946366387] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Wait, do people in this topic actually think someone should be able to live somewhere owned and operated by someone else for free? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 10/27/20 12:51:00 PM #86:	superXY posted... Wait, do people in this topic actually think someone should be able to live somewhere owned and operated by someone else for free? I mean, I don't think they should be charged criminally and spend time in jail after missing to pay rent --- Pitter-patter, let's get at 'er <cite>emblem boy posted [p:946366480] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>superXY posted...</cite> <quote>Wait, do people in this topic actually think someone should be able to live somewhere owned and operated by someone else for free? </quote> I mean, I don't think they should be charged criminally and spend time in jail after missing to pay rent</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vescreth 10/27/20 12:52:08 PM #87:	Balrog0 posted... When Allen, 29, didnt appear in court as required on the morning of July 9, a warrant was issued for her. Fair, should've shown up <cite>Vescreth posted [p:946366522] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>When Allen, 29, didnt appear in court as required on the morning of July 9, a warrant was issued for her.</quote>Fair, should've shown up </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 10/27/20 12:54:30 PM #89:	emblem boy posted... I mean, I don't think they should be charged criminally and spend time in jail after missing to pay rent Well, yeah. We're just rhetoric'ing past eachother in this thread, again. What point, however, does it become trespassing? Getting behind on the rent shouldn't. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:946366632] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>emblem boy posted... </cite> <quote>I mean, I don't think they should be charged criminally and spend time in jail after missing to pay rent</quote>Well, yeah. We're just rhetoric'ing past eachother in this thread, again. What point, however, does it become trespassing? Getting behind on the rent shouldn't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 10/27/20 12:55:35 PM #90:	Godnorgosh posted... I would start with Capital, Vol. I in the case of Balrog specifically this might be good, but in general Capital is terrible as a starting point. it's long and dense and most people aren't particularly interested in a diatribe about the price of barley. and Karl Marx: Selected Writings for the basics. I don't know about this in particular -- I'm sure it's all worth reading, but I don't know off the top of my head which "writings" are in it my biggest recommendation -- for Balrog and for basically anyone else -- is Mark Fisher's Capitalist Realism -- it's not too long, it's fairly accessible, and there are videos on youtube that do a good job of explaining it that can pretty easily be digested in one sitting. it also talks about mental health as a systemic issue and a function of late-stage capitalism, which not many people are doing. --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:946366685] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Godnorgosh posted... </cite> <quote>I would start with Capital, Vol. I </quote>in the case of Balrog specifically this might be good, but in general Capital is terrible as a starting point. it's long and dense and most people aren't particularly interested in a diatribe about the price of barley. <quote>and Karl Marx: Selected Writings for the basics.</quote>I don't know about this in particular -- I'm sure it's all worth reading, but I don't know off the top of my head which "writings" are in it my biggest recommendation -- for Balrog and for basically anyone else -- is Mark Fisher's Capitalist Realism -- it's not too long, it's fairly accessible, and there are videos on youtube that do a good job of explaining it that can pretty easily be digested in one sitting. it also talks about mental health as a systemic issue and a function of late-stage capitalism, which not many people are doing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sLaCkEr408___RJ 10/27/20 12:56:15 PM #91:	Conflict posted... Yes thinking you shouldn't be jailed for being behind on your rent automatically means you think you should be living in rented buildings for free. Good deduction, Einstein It was a yes or no clarifying question. You added the rest which begs the next question What should be done about tenants not paying rent <cite>sLaCkEr408___RJ posted [p:946366717] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>Yes thinking you shouldn't be jailed for being behind on your rent automatically means you think you should be living in rented buildings for free. Good deduction, Einstein</quote>It was a yes or no clarifying question. You added the rest which begs the next question What should be done about tenants not paying rent </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 10/27/20 12:58:30 PM #93:	g980 posted... Im on board with not criminalizing the eviction process but jfc @Balrog0 the shitposting itt is a disappointing look on you [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Those are the only two options any more and there's clearly a correct one --- https://blackmalevoterproject.org/ <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:946366783] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>g980 posted... </cite> <quote>Im on board with not criminalizing the eviction process but jfc @Balrog0 the shitposting itt is a disappointing look on you</quote> <cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Those are the only two options any more and there's clearly a correct one </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 10/27/20 12:59:57 PM #94:	Nah there's no reason to give some tortured explanation for why Arkansas shouldn't have criminal evictions when no other state does Anyone expecting that sort of argumentation without doing any homework themselves is just showing their ass as a tool for the oppressors. --- https://blackmalevoterproject.org/ <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:946366855] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Nah there's no reason to give some tortured explanation for why Arkansas shouldn't have criminal evictions when no other state does Anyone expecting that sort of argumentation without doing any homework themselves is just showing their ass as a tool for the oppressors. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sLaCkEr408___RJ 10/27/20 12:59:59 PM #95:	Conflict posted... Who in this topic even remotely expressed that they shouldn't have to pay rent Someone was confused and asked for claification. Why are you so focused on that instead of the next question asked <cite>sLaCkEr408___RJ posted [p:946366858] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>Who in this topic even remotely expressed that they shouldn't have to pay rent</quote>Someone was confused and asked for claification. Why are you so focused on that instead of the next question asked </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sLaCkEr408___RJ 10/27/20 1:03:45 PM #97:	Conflict posted... No, they weren't confused... at all. The dude's a right-wing shitposter, stop being gullible Ah well. I don't keep tabs on users so idk posting habits. Either way, there is still that question I presented to you in post #91 <cite>sLaCkEr408___RJ posted [p:946367000] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>No, they weren't confused... at all. The dude's a right-wing shitposter, stop being gullible</quote>Ah well. I don't keep tabs on users so idk posting habits. Either way, there is still that question I presented to you in post #91 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 10/27/20 1:04:18 PM #98:	Conflict posted... No, they weren't confused... at all. The dude's a right-wing shitposter, stop being gullible So is that guy --- https://blackmalevoterproject.org/ <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:946367028] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>No, they weren't confused... at all. The dude's a right-wing shitposter, stop being gullible</quote> So is that guy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 10/27/20 1:08:38 PM #99:	averagejoel posted... my biggest recommendation -- for Balrog and for basically anyone else -- is Mark Fisher's Capitalist Realism -- it's not too long, it's fairly accessible, and there are videos on youtube that do a good job of explaining it that can pretty easily be digested in one sitting. it also talks about mental health as a systemic issue and a function of late-stage capitalism, which not many people are doing. Sounds interesting, I think I'm going to look into this --- https://blackmalevoterproject.org/ <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:946367179] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted... </cite> <quote>my biggest recommendation -- for Balrog and for basically anyone else -- is Mark Fisher's Capitalist Realism -- it's not too long, it's fairly accessible, and there are videos on youtube that do a good job of explaining it that can pretty easily be digested in one sitting. it also talks about mental health as a systemic issue and a function of late-stage capitalism, which not many people are doing.</quote> Sounds interesting, I think I'm going to look into this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExtremeLuchador 10/27/20 1:10:46 PM #100:	I remember back during the great recession some users saying people should go to prison for not paying their mortgages. --- "It was horrible," guard Jeff McInnis said. "I took 100 naps and we were still in the air." <cite>ExtremeLuchador posted [p:946367256] in Did you kn... [t:79066814]...</cite> <quote>I remember back during the great recession some users saying people should go to prison for not paying their mortgages. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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