Poll of the Day > Why didn't people like The Last of Us Part II, again? (spoilers)

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JigsawTDC
10/15/20 10:45:33 PM
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I just beat it and thought it was really good. A really good revenge story and one of the best I've seen in a video game. Was it because there was a trans character (Lev)?
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IAmNowGone
10/15/20 10:49:32 PM
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They were mostly mad about Joel dying. They wanted a similar story to part 1 told. More Joel and Ellie.

i personally loved everything about it
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IAmNowGone
10/15/20 10:50:34 PM
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idk if Id have enjoyed a Ellie revenge story nearly as much if she was getting revenge for dina of all ppl. Which is the angle ppl hoped for.
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Zareth
10/15/20 10:51:50 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCYMH-lp4oM

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JigsawTDC
10/15/20 11:07:59 PM
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I guess I can understand being upset by the former playable character being brutally murdered at the beginning of the game, but that's what makes it such a good story of revenge. No one is really a good guy in this. It's just a vicious cycle of murder and revenge!
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wwinterj25
10/15/20 11:33:39 PM
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JigsawTDC posted...
I just beat it and thought it was really good. A really good revenge story and one of the best I've seen in a video game. Was it because there was a trans character (Lev)?


No. They thought Abby was trans and got mad at Joels inevitable death. The Last of Us 2 has pacing issues but it's a solid game. The Woke of Us: It's Ma'am edition or something....

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DirtBasedSoap
10/15/20 11:46:15 PM
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they wanted a rehash of part i

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Person4
10/15/20 11:47:38 PM
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I have never been so pissed about an ending before.

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Gaawa_chan
10/15/20 11:57:15 PM
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They were mad that a buff woman killed a character they idolized.

That's not to say that the game doesn't have problems, but it all gets drowned out by Joel simps and people who apparently don't know that buff women exist.

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Kimbos_Egg
10/16/20 12:00:09 AM
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JigsawTDC posted...
I guess I can understand being upset by the former playable character being brutally murdered at the beginning of the game, but that's what makes it such a good story of revenge. No one is really a good guy in this. It's just a vicious cycle of murder and revenge!

but its not a revenge story. the character just decides "Hey i'm not mad anymore" and fucking stops. After she loses fingers and a bunch of friends, and her lover runs off...

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wwinterj25
10/16/20 12:02:28 AM
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Person4 posted...
I have never been so pissed about an ending before.
I'd have liked alternate endings.

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Metalsonic66
10/16/20 12:15:15 AM
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The game was amazing.

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DirtBasedSoap
10/16/20 12:16:59 AM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
The game was amazing.
agreed. favorite game of all time tbh

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Metalsonic66
10/16/20 12:23:47 AM
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I'd at least put it top 3 of this generation

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SunWuKung420
10/16/20 1:01:26 AM
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I know I'll love it. I just haven't bought it yet.

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aHappySacka
10/16/20 1:08:45 AM
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Never played them but apparently it's because they wanted a continuation of the first game but all they got was a new character that no one wanted and a 180 degree flip of Joel who went from mercilessly defending Ellie as if she were his daughter to: meh I guess I'll die now you're on your own.

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Wanded
10/16/20 1:30:18 AM
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The plot sucks imo, which would normally wouldn't really be a factor but this is a plot based game, it uses cheap manipulations every 5 seconds in a scale which immediately takes you out of the game and caring about it, literally no character is lovable in this game because all the new characters are bad and they made all the old characters who were great also bad (this is probably just me not wanting to play as suckish people who constantly do stupid things), main characters get saved by plot armor even batman would be jealous of which again breaks realism and immersion, the main point of the games doesn't make sense, Ellie didn't pick up the vita

Sure, the grass looked phenomenal though, when i'll wanna play a game for its grass quality, i might replay

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Metalsonic66
10/16/20 1:35:53 AM
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aHappySacka posted...
Never played them but apparently it's because they wanted a continuation of the first game but all they got was a new character that no one wanted and a 180 degree flip of Joel who went from mercilessly defending Ellie as if she were his daughter to: meh I guess I'll die now you're on your own.
That's not even close to what happened

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party_animal07
10/16/20 3:11:45 AM
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I dont have the hate boner some of the community has, but I was really disappointed in the end. The "shit world with glimmers of hope" are pretty much nonexistent this time around. Even the positive feelings of the flashbacks were always undercut in some fashion. It just wasn't an enjoyable experience.

I've been reading different views and opinions and, barring the extremes of each side, I think they're both "right" to a degree.

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wwinterj25
10/16/20 3:26:13 AM
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aHappySacka posted...
Never played them but apparently

It's time to stop.

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Opportunist
10/16/20 4:23:41 AM
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It felt more like a political statement rather than an actual game.

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wwinterj25
10/16/20 4:38:47 AM
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Opportunist posted...
It felt more like a political statement rather than an actual game.
I mean it has better gameplay than the first game. Seems to me you just want to apply politics for reasons.

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DocDelicious
10/16/20 5:22:36 AM
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Lackluster gameplay and nothing to keep me motivated to play.

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PyroBlade1985
10/16/20 9:30:09 AM
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Ultima_Dragoon
10/16/20 9:37:33 AM
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It's almost as if characters can be irrationally angry and do/say stupid things, especially when friends and loves ones are killed. Emotions are complex.
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Far-Queue
10/16/20 9:43:48 AM
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I thought it was a fantastic game it was just oppressively bleak. Like, I get that the entire premise is bleak. Humanity is on the brink of extinction, our biggest threat is each other, etc. But goddamn that game has very little levity

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ultra magnus13
10/16/20 3:21:15 PM
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Same reason many people hated MGS2, main character bait and switch.
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Sonicplys
10/16/20 4:26:31 PM
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ultra magnus13 posted...
Same reason many people hated MGS2, main character bait and switch.
Except Abby is a billion times cooler than baby boy Raiden

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BADoglick
10/16/20 4:33:30 PM
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People wanted the continuing adventures of Joel and Ellie.

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JigsawTDC
10/16/20 4:38:42 PM
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So basically people had misplaced expectations and got upset when those expectations didn't come to fruition. I'm more interested in interpreting art as it is, not how I want it to be.
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ultra magnus13
10/16/20 6:03:32 PM
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Sonicplys posted...

Except Abby is a billion times cooler than baby boy Raiden


That is all subjective, but general consensus on both seems to be that they suck.
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DrPrimemaster
10/16/20 6:24:02 PM
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Zareth posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCYMH-lp4oM

He probably has one of the more balanced takes on the game.

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JigsawTDC
10/16/20 7:18:29 PM
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Zareth posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCYMH-lp4oM

Kimbos_Egg posted...
but its not a revenge story. the character just decides "Hey i'm not mad anymore" and fucking stops. After she loses fingers and a bunch of friends, and her lover runs off...

I think both this video and you have missed a key point. The video says "Ellie has a miraculous flash back" and you say she "just decides" but that's not what happens.

Ellie gets her fingers bitten off and starts drowning Abby. While drowning her she thinks of Joel playing the guitar. Why? Because she just had two of her fingers bitten off that she uses to play guitar. That tangible connection she had with her time with Joel is torn away, and I think that's what finally makes her realize how vicious this cycle is. The first thing she does when arriving back at the farm is attempt to play guitar, but struggles to do so.
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Metalsonic66
10/16/20 8:27:14 PM
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Opportunist posted...
It felt more like a political statement rather than an actual game.
There's very little of anything resembling politics in the game.

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PyroBlade1985
10/16/20 11:47:37 PM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
There's very little of anything resembling politics in the game.
Tell that to Twitter.

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wwinterj25
10/16/20 11:50:04 PM
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PyroBlade1985 posted...
Tell that to Twitter.
Twitter is best ignored.

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PyroBlade1985
10/16/20 11:54:53 PM
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wwinterj25 posted...
Twitter is best ignored.
Regardless, Last of Us 2 is nothing more than misery porn. It belongs in the trash along with A Serbian Film.

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wwinterj25
10/16/20 11:56:57 PM
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PyroBlade1985 posted...
Regardless, Last of Us 2 is nothing more than misery porn. It belongs in the trash along with A Serbian Film.
I don't agree. The Last of Us was about friendship. The Last of Us 2 is about revenge. While I didn't think the first game needed a sequel I'm happy with what we got. The gameplay is better than the first and although the game has pacing issues I enjoyed it. Overall I enjoyed the first more but eh it's still not a bad game.

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Metalsonic66
10/17/20 12:01:50 AM
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PyroBlade1985 posted...
Regardless, Last of Us 2 is nothing more than misery porn. It belongs in the trash along with A Serbian Film.
lol no

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PyroBlade1985
10/17/20 12:02:47 AM
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lol yes

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DirtBasedSoap
10/17/20 12:07:32 AM
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PyroBlade1985 posted...
Regardless, Last of Us 2 is nothing more than misery porn. It belongs in the trash along with A Serbian Film.
typical chud response

stay salty, brother.

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PyroBlade1985
10/17/20 12:12:18 AM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
typical chud response

stay salty, brother.
Yes. I'm a chud cus I didn't like Niel Dreckmann's little zombie game. Stay salty, brother.

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DirtBasedSoap
10/17/20 12:13:41 AM
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lol

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PyroBlade1985
10/17/20 12:14:17 AM
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lol to you too

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Metalsonic66
10/17/20 12:16:21 AM
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2 spoopy

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DirtBasedSoap
10/17/20 12:18:22 AM
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PyroBlade1985 posted...
lol to you too
hey, im not the one that hated the game. i had a great time with it. i still am actually, almost done with grounded mode.

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PyroBlade1985
10/17/20 12:20:46 AM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
hey, im not the one that hated the game. i had a great time with it. i still am actually, almost done with grounded mode.
Good for you. Now if only can deal with the fact that not everyone likes what you like.

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DirtBasedSoap
10/17/20 12:21:06 AM
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i can deal with it, can you? cause it doesnt seem like it :)

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PyroBlade1985
10/17/20 12:21:56 AM
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I can. Can you?

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DirtBasedSoap
10/17/20 12:23:21 AM
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no

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