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FrndNhbrHdCEman
10/14/20 12:35:32 AM
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Twitter suspends accounts for posing as Black Trump supporters
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/13/twitter-suspends-accounts-for-posing-as-black-trump-supporters

Twitter has suspended a network of accounts claiming to be owned by Black supporters of Donald Trump and his re-election campaign due to spam and platform manipulation, it said Tuesday.
The company is investigating the activity and may suspend additional similar accounts if they are found to be violating its policies, a spokesperson said.
The Washington Post first reported on the investigation, citing more than a dozen accounts using identical, inauthentic language including the phrase: YES IM BLACK AND IM VOTING FOR TRUMP!!!
A review of some of the suspended accounts shows they often used stolen images to appear real. The accounts sometimes claimed to be owned by military veterans or members of law enforcement.
This is not the first time Twitter has had to address a spam operation claiming to be led by Black voters. NBC News also reported spam operations from fake accounts posing as Black Trump supporters in August.
Some accounts were able to attract thousands of followers before they were suspended. One tweet, for example, amassed more than 10,000 retweets before it was removed, NBC News found. Another account allegedly used a photoof a veteran who died last month to pose as a Trump supporter.
Polls show about 10% of Black voters in the US support Trump. These accounts raised suspicion for their identical language and stock image avatars.
Meanwhile, research shows Black Americans have been negatively impacted by misinformation campaigns online in recent months, particularly those focused on spreading misinformation about Covid-19.
Black lives are consistently put in danger, and it is incumbent upon community actors, media, government, and tech companies alike to do their part to ensure that timely, local, relevant and redundant public health messages are served to all communities, a study from Harvards Shorenstein Center found.
Twitter rules prohibit using the platform in a manner intended to artificially amplify or suppress information or engage in behavior that manipulates or disrupts peoples experience on Twitter, a Twitter spokesman told the Guardian.
The company reports campaigns discovered to be state-backed in its public archive. This month it revealed it had suspended more than 1,500 accounts affiliated with Iran, Saudi Arabia, Cuba, Thailand and Russia that had sought to spread misinformation. It did not say where it believed the network of people posing as Black Trump supporters originated or whether it was state-backed.

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Mead
10/14/20 12:36:13 AM
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Whoa theres a black trump?

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SpeeDLeemon
10/14/20 12:36:31 AM
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Did Twitter suspend accounts for posing as Black Trump supporters


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FrndNhbrHdCEman
10/14/20 1:07:20 AM
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Mead posted...
Whoa theres a black trump?
Lol. I didnt write the article.

SpeeDLeemon posted...
Did Twitter suspend accounts for posing as Black Trump supporters
Yup.

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Wanded
10/14/20 1:09:34 AM
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Trumps gonna get more black voters than any other republican nominee

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
10/14/20 1:14:15 AM
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Wanded posted...
Trumps gonna get more black voters than any other republican nominee
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OhhhJa
10/14/20 1:15:14 AM
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These tech companies totally aren't partisan guys! They definitely aren't trying to influence the election!
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ClarkDuke
10/14/20 1:48:52 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
These tech companies totally aren't partisan guys! They definitely aren't trying to influence the election!
so, you believe they should allow fake accounts, meant to look like african american trump supporters, ok?

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likehelly
10/14/20 2:00:00 AM
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ClarkDuke posted...
so, you believe they should allow fake accounts, meant to look like african american trump supporters, ok?
i believe he does think they should allow fake accounts, meant to look like african american trump supporters, backed by various companies and governments, that are meant to influence the election.

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BlackScythe0
10/14/20 2:02:43 AM
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ClarkDuke posted...
so, you believe they should allow fake accounts, meant to look like african american trump supporters, ok?

It's more likely he believes the accounts aren't fake. Conservatives believe real is fake and fake is real.
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Collat
10/14/20 2:04:53 AM
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Shocking.
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ClarkDuke
10/14/20 2:06:20 AM
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likehelly posted...
i believe he does think they should allow fake accounts, meant to look like african american trump supporters, backed by various companies and governments, that are meant to influence the election.
well, i hope they're paying him, otherwise he looks foolish parroting it here for free, ok?

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ClarkDuke
10/14/20 2:09:58 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
It's more likely he believes the accounts aren't fake. Conservatives believe real is fake and fake is real.
boy, he sure sounds gullible then, disagreeing with twitter, on this matter, ok?

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likehelly
10/14/20 12:52:11 PM
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adjl
10/14/20 12:57:22 PM
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Hoo boy.

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streamofthesky
10/14/20 1:05:57 PM
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Wow, using the image of a dead veteran just to pose as a black guy online is pretty damn vile.

It probably doesn't count since he didn't pretend to be in the military and probably hoped no one would realize he was using a vet's pic since it would blow his cover, but holy crap would it be delectable if that dude got charged w/ stolen valor!
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adjl
10/14/20 1:11:39 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
he didn't pretend to be in the military

The account does claim to be a veteran, actually. Dunno if that's enough to count, but it's something.

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streamofthesky
10/14/20 1:20:15 PM
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adjl posted...
The account does claim to be a veteran, actually. Dunno if that's enough to count, but it's something.
He also claimed to be a cop, and impersonating a cop is also a crime.
So there's that.
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adjl
10/14/20 1:33:09 PM
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Unfortunately, "impersonating a cop" usually requires the person to have attempted to use the authority that being a cop provides. Here, it was being used for optics, not to abuse any sort of authority, so it might be hard to make the charges stick.

That said, I sincerely hope somebody at least tries so that whoever's behind the account is dragged screaming into the sunlight, regardless of whether or not they're convicted. There's pretty much no chance it'll be traced directly back to Trump's campaign, since I'm sure they're better at covering their tracks than that, but they frankly deserve the kind of fear for their life that will come from having their identity attached to this.

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SunWuKung420
10/14/20 4:14:02 PM
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Textbook voter manipulation


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EvilMegas
10/14/20 4:46:10 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
These tech companies totally aren't partisan guys! They definitely aren't trying to influence the election!

Do you even understand what you type?

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10/14/20 6:54:16 PM
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ClarkDuke
10/15/20 4:25:35 AM
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likehelly posted...


more reminders he only hires the best people, ok?

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lihlih
10/15/20 7:46:54 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
Wow, using the image of a dead veteran just to pose as a black guy online is pretty damn vile.

It probably doesn't count since he didn't pretend to be in the military and probably hoped no one would realize he was using a vet's pic since it would blow his cover, but holy crap would it be delectable if that dude got charged w/ stolen valor!


Stolen Valor has been struck down by the Supreme Court for going against Freedom of Speech.
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adjl
10/15/20 10:12:22 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
These tech companies totally aren't partisan guys! They definitely aren't trying to influence the election!

Do you think twitter shouldn't be shutting down people who are deliberately spreading misinformation for the purposes of influencing the election?

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WhiskeyDisk
10/15/20 11:10:50 AM
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BlackScythe0
10/15/20 11:37:35 AM
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WhiskeyDisk
10/15/20 11:45:45 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Ah whataboutism, the good old Soviet standard.

what steps did the Obama/Biden administration take when they caught wind of Russia potentially meddling in the 2016 election?

fuck all. dick one. absolutely none.

*That* would be whataboutism.

nothing in the post you quoted is whataboutism. it actually happened. yesterday, unless you'd like to attack the sources I cited instead, rather than address the point made.

Is it only Ok when one side of the argument manipulates the electorate for a desired result since you agree with the desired effect?

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Mead
10/15/20 1:19:51 PM
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WhiskeyDisk posted...
nothing in the post you quoted is whataboutism. it actually happened.

I dont think you understand what whataboutism means

which, I mean, makes sense

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BlackScythe0
10/15/20 1:20:37 PM
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Mead posted...
I dont think you understand what whataboutism means

which, I mean, makes sense

Yea I just wasn't going to respond because what he said didn't make much sense.
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adjl
10/15/20 1:22:59 PM
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WhiskeyDisk posted...
nothing in the post you quoted is whataboutism. it actually happened.

"These accounts should have been banned for manipulating voters"
"Well what about the things Twitter is doing to manipulate voters? Shouldn't you also be disapproving of that?"

That's textbook whatboutism, dude. You're attempting to discredit a position you disagree with by painting the people who hold it as hypocrites.

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WhiskeyDisk
10/15/20 1:27:38 PM
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yet, Twitter ARE complete hypocrites in this scenario, but its ok as long as they're censoring those you disagree with.

textbook leftism 101.

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Mead
10/15/20 1:50:07 PM
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WhiskeyDisk posted...
but its ok as long as they're censoring those you disagree with.

I mean that sounds incorrect

you seem so fired up though so Im sure someone was actively arguing the opposite point

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adjl
10/15/20 1:59:48 PM
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WhiskeyDisk posted...
yet, Twitter ARE complete hypocrites in this scenario

Not at all. In both cases, they censored the content because they felt it violated their policies against misinformation. To demonstrate hypocrisy, you'd have to find an example of them failing to censor something else that violates that policy.

Of course, that would still only demonstrate hypocrisy, not do anything to actually challenge either decision. This is why whatboutism is considered a fallacy: you don't actually address the argument being made. It's a close cousin of strawman/ad hominem fallacies, in that regard.

WhiskeyDisk posted...
but its ok as long as they're censoring those you disagree with.

Again, I ask: Do you think Twitter shouldn't be shutting down people who are deliberately spreading misinformation for the purposes of influencing the election? Because it sounds to me like you're trying to avoid admitting that what they did here was completely justifiable, and are therefore trying to paint them as hypocritical so you don't have to acknowledge them doing something good.

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
10/15/20 4:05:16 PM
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So Whiskey drank the Koolaid.

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dedbus
10/15/20 7:44:05 PM
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Social media often does tend to be a phony representation of yourself.
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BlackScythe0
10/15/20 8:52:20 PM
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
So Whiskey drank the Koolaid.

Yea he has been in all the political threads with incomprehensible nonsense.
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Revelation34
10/15/20 8:56:36 PM
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I agree with Twitter here. Everybody knows that black Trump supporters don't exist. They're clearly all fake.
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WhiskeyDisk
10/15/20 10:16:25 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Yea he has been in all the political threads with incomprehensible nonsense.

ie, everyone that disagrees with me is a Nazi istandphobe.


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Zareth
10/15/20 10:49:24 PM
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Sounds like something a Nazi istandphobe would say.

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WhiskeyDisk
10/15/20 10:52:28 PM
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Zareth posted...
Sounds like something a Nazi istandphobe would say.


und Keine Eier ..

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OrangeDawn
10/15/20 10:57:49 PM
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
So Whiskey drank the Koolaid.
He's been off the deep end for a bit now, yeah :/

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WhiskeyDisk
10/15/20 11:01:55 PM
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OrangeDawn posted...
He's been off the deep end for a bit now, yeah :/

Again, everyone who disagrees with leftist dogma is an istandphobe.

Sniff my hair Daddy Biden!

Burning down your own city will really show evil whitey! Why are we so poor?

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BlackScythe0
10/15/20 11:04:07 PM
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OrangeDawn posted...
He's been off the deep end for a bit now, yeah :/

I do feel sad for him, but people make their choices.
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WhiskeyDisk
10/15/20 11:13:46 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
I do feel sad for him, but people make their choices.


Hell, I live just on the edge of the occasional murder capital of NY state. Newburgh and Rochester keep jockeying for the top slot. Newburgh at least has the sense to not burn down its own small businesses.

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OrangeDawn
10/15/20 11:30:48 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
I do feel sad for him, but people make their choices.
True. I think I can feel sympathy to a point but after that it's clearly self-inflicted

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WhiskeyDisk
10/15/20 11:35:28 PM
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OrangeDawn posted...
True. I think I can feel sympathy to a point but after that it's clearly self-inflicted

Imagine the ego required to think anyone that doesn't agree with you is hurting themselves.

Like, seriously. Holy shit dude.

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likehelly
10/15/20 11:52:31 PM
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WhiskeyDisk posted...
Imagine the ego required to think anyone that doesn't agree with you is hurting themselves.

Like, seriously. Holy shit dude.

pot kettle black

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WhiskeyDisk
10/15/20 11:58:55 PM
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likehelly posted...
pot kettle black

Here's the funny part Helly, and you're probably not going to like this. As long as someone isn't hurting anyone else and isn't stepping on my toes, I don't really care what they think or what they do.

You're the one that thinks since I disagree with you that it's appropriate and proper to harass me across multiple topics while playing the victim like the other members of a very small circle jerk on this board everytime they get pushback. If a coloring book and a few plushies would get you off my nuts, I'd buy you some.

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likehelly
10/16/20 12:13:15 AM
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WhiskeyDisk posted...
Here's the funny part Helly, and you're probably not going to like this. As long as someone isn't hurting anyone else and isn't stepping on my toes, I don't really care what they think or what they do.
sure you don't

WhiskeyDisk posted...
You're the one that thinks since I disagree with you that it's appropriate and proper to harass me across multiple topics while playing the victim like the other members of a very small circle jerk on this board everytime they get pushback. If a coloring book and a few plushies would get you off my nuts, I'd buy you some.
but i don't think you disagree with me. mainly because i don't know what your argument or points are. there is no "agree" or "disagree". there is only questions due to lack of clarification.

i've asked you repeatedly to explain why you think some peoples votes should be worth more than others and you have yet to actually answer it.

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