Board 8 > Which Final Fantasy should I get next?

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andylt
10/17/20 3:23:05 PM
#101:


I was screwed by a fake Leaf Green cart way back in the day (came in the box and everything), I didn't notice until too late when the saves wouldn't load. Never got another fake game, just the one (now two) GBA ones.

Looking into this more I'm pretty sure it is a fake, the board or whatever you call it that the pins are on is like a copperish brown instead of the whiter tinge the regular ones have. But apparently it's a pretty good fake as the fonts, positioning and tri screw are all correct. Oh well.

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pjbasis
10/17/20 3:27:07 PM
#102:


Man I'm pretty sure I turned down getting FFVI Advance for like 20 bucks at a gamestop like 10 years ago.

Sucks!

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andylt
10/17/20 5:35:57 PM
#103:


Well I got a refund at least. The guy claims he bought it himself from someone else to sell on and has asked me not to mention it on the feedback as it could be damaging. Seems shady as a couple others have already mentioned bootlegs but I won't push it any further. Back on the hunt!

Thanks to the discord SMFFFC folks my plan now for FFT is to buy it digitally on PS3. V and VI I'm still gonna try to look for on GBA but I'm gonna be more careful now. Thanks again to Mr Crispy, without you I could've started off on the game and gotten a ways in before the save corrupted or something.

pjbasis posted...
Man I'm pretty sure I turned down getting FFVI Advance for like 20 bucks at a gamestop like 10 years ago.

Sucks!
I feel you, I've done this with Golden Sun 2 and some other stuff before. Who would've thought Squenix would only put half of their flagship series on mobile/pc after that.

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MZero
10/17/20 9:36:56 PM
#104:


andylt posted...
Just to check, I'm guessing the Japanese PS1 Tactics won't have an English translation and I should get the American version?

That's right. If only you could read Japanese, I would lend you my copy of FFVI Advance!

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5tarscream
10/17/20 10:11:17 PM
#105:


I need to replay VI because I honestly dont get the hype. I played it, it was fine, it probably wouldnt make my top 5 though. I played the ps version fwiw. Maybe I missed something or maybe I was too young. Im almost finished replaying VIII and Im enjoying it more than I did previously. I think it suffered from following VII originally instead of being judged as a stand alone game.

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th3l3fty
10/18/20 8:40:18 AM
#106:


I played VI (Advance version) for the first time in the last year and I also don't get the hype - it's a solid game but it's nowhere close to Chrono Trigger's league

(the majority of the cast is pretty whatever too - it's simply too bloated for most of them to get the attention they need)
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Leonhart4
10/18/20 9:19:26 AM
#107:


5tarscream posted...
I need to replay VI because I honestly dont get the hype. I played it, it was fine, it probably wouldnt make my top 5 though. I played the ps version fwiw. Maybe I missed something or maybe I was too young. Im almost finished replaying VIII and Im enjoying it more than I did previously. I think it suffered from following VII originally instead of being judged as a stand alone game.

ya go my FFVIII

It's better on a replay because you know what you're doing...!

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andylt
10/18/20 12:26:07 PM
#108:


MZero posted...
That's right. If only you could read Japanese, I would lend you my copy of FFVI Advance!
That's very kind of you to think of! Reading Japanese would be helpful for a lot of this kinda thing I imagine, I almost bought a cheap version of Ghost Trick last month before realising it was Japanese.

5tarscream posted...
I need to replay VI because I honestly dont get the hype. I played it, it was fine, it probably wouldnt make my top 5 though. I played the ps version fwiw. Maybe I missed something or maybe I was too young.
You're not alone! Lefty ofc and some others I think aren't super keen on it, but it was handily winning this poll before the stuffing started. Apparently the PS is the worse version but just cos of load times etc I think. I think a lot of people also see VI as so definitive and important to the series that it has to be played, hence it doing so well in the poll.

I'm keeping an eye on a copy of VIA being bidded on now that has the factory numbers visible so fingers crossed. I made a US PSN account on PS3 so I have access to Tactics, I'll need to buy a US gift card as Paypal etc seems to be region locked but that should be easy enough for me from Amazon or something.


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Leonhart4
10/18/20 12:44:48 PM
#109:


I think FFVI is a must play if you're a fan of the series, whether you ultimately enjoy it or not

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pjbasis
10/18/20 1:33:19 PM
#110:


I used to have FFVI as the most overrated FF, but on my snes classic replay I feel like I "got" the second half of the game and I loved it.

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Leonhart4
10/18/20 1:37:56 PM
#111:


pjbasis posted...
I used to have FFVI as the most overrated FF, but on my snes classic replay I feel like I "got" the second half of the game and I loved it.

Everyone's either a WoB or a WoR guy. I prefer WoR.

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Mac Arrowny
10/18/20 3:47:13 PM
#112:


Both are great. I don't really have a preference.
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Grimlyn
10/18/20 3:48:31 PM
#113:


Mac Arrowny posted...
Both are great. I don't really have a preference.


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LeonhartFour
10/18/20 3:50:42 PM
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colliding
10/18/20 4:55:19 PM
#115:


nah, not really. the two halves of FFVI perfectly play off of each other. like if you make a person choose they can choose, but it's not like a "you're either one or the other" situation

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LeonhartFour
10/18/20 6:05:49 PM
#116:


colliding posted...
like if you make a person choose they can choose, but it's not like a "you're either one or the other" situation

then you are

like both halves are great but they're great for different reasons

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andylt
10/19/20 12:22:52 PM
#117:


Inquired about a couple of other FFV cartridges but gotten no response so figure they're fake. On the bright side I finally managed to snag Ghost Trick on DS!

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Lopen
10/19/20 4:29:34 PM
#118:


LeonhartFour posted...
then you are

like both halves are great but they're great for different reasons

Not really. Like for instance I really like Macaroni and Cheese but if you want me to choose between the Macaroni and the Cheese I'm going to say they're both part of the dish and I'd rather not pick between the two, even if gun to head and you force me to pick one I guess I'd take the cheese sauce because it's got the lion's share of the taste contribution. And I mean, I'd probably have plain macaroni over the cheese sauce pretty darn often too.

But I'm going to eat Macaroni and Cheese over melted cheese sauce or plain macaroni every time, you know?

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Leonhart4
10/19/20 4:34:47 PM
#119:


...but that's still admitting you do have a favorite part

Like I'm not saying one is bad and the other is good, but they're good for different reasons and those reasons will get you to lean one way or the other

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Lopen
10/19/20 4:38:26 PM
#120:


No not really. I like cheese the most of any of the toppings on a supreme pizza-- that makes me a cheese guy right?

But I prefer a supreme pizza to a cheese pizza so how does that work?

Ultimately the question of whether you're a World of Balance guy or a World of Ruin guy is whether you'd rather have the game take entirely the style of one or entirely the style of the other, or whether they prefer the game as is. If it's the latter than you're just a FFVI guy. You believe the worlds complement each other in a good way that makes it hard to choose a favorite in a vacuum, hard enough where the choice being forced is almost a meaningless distinction.

I like both worlds in FFVI quite a bit. It's not like in FFVII where I'm a Disc 1 guy or FFVIII where I'm a "any disc but 3" guy.

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Leonhart4
10/19/20 4:43:24 PM
#121:


I mean, I get what you're saying. FFVI is great as a complete package, and that's what makes both of them work.

But if you were forced to only play half of the game but you were allowed to choose which half, you'd probably be able to come to a decision. I'm not saying that you'd rather have the entire game be this or that by picking a favorite, but you probably dont like both parts of the game equally.

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redrocket
10/19/20 4:49:24 PM
#122:


Leonhart4 posted...
But if you were forced to only play half of the game but you were allowed to choose which half, you'd probably be able to come to a decision. I'm not saying that you'd rather have the entire game be this or that by picking a favorite, but you probably dont like both parts of the game equally.

I think that the point is that, the ability to pick one world over the other does not by itself make you a World of ___ guy, or rather your choice of language there is dumb.

Im not sure about you, but whenever I see ____ guy used, that is inherently suggesting a strong, or at least definitive preference. Not merely a, I could pick one after five minutes with a gun to my head, preference.

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colliding
10/19/20 4:50:56 PM
#123:


this seems like a dumb argument but whatever. I do like both halves of the game equally but I could still choose one if asked to because I'm an adult. Just like when my parents made me choose who to live with when they got divorced. I still love them both equally!!!

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Lopen
10/19/20 4:51:28 PM
#124:


Well I like them close enough to equally that I can't really pick one right now without really really thinking about it-- it's also really hard to separate them like that internally for me. I like them close enough to equally that forcing me to pick is virtually meaningless

I think a good example of this on a character level exists within FFVI too. Like if you ask me to pick between Sabin and Edgar, which is better, I really can't do it. Their backstories and interactions are so heavily intertwined and they're both great in their own way.

That's not to say people don't exist that have clear cut preferences between Sabin and Edgar, because they are distinct characters, but for me who pretty much likes everything about how their personalities and their stories and stuff, I can't really pick. I'm not "an Edgar guy" or "a Sabin guy" I just really like both of them and wouldn't have more of one at the expense of the other, even to a slight degree.

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Leonhart4
10/19/20 4:53:13 PM
#125:


Yes I clearly overestimated this board's ability to take a side and underestimated its ability to parse words

This is my mistake

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The Mana Sword
10/19/20 4:54:44 PM
#126:


don't worry you're both wrong and ff6 sucks

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Leonhart4
10/19/20 4:55:25 PM
#127:


The Mana Sword posted...
don't worry you're both wrong and ff6 sucks

See this is the level of definitive commitment I was expecting

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colliding
10/19/20 4:56:24 PM
#128:


oh sure, blame us for refusing to fit into your arbitrary "either/or" molds. we won't be pigeon-holed by you anymore Leonhart. this ends now. viva la revolucion

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Leonhart4
10/19/20 4:58:04 PM
#129:


Hey I admitted the mistake was mine...!

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Lopen
10/19/20 4:58:36 PM
#130:


Related note as a fun fact I used to have a Heroic Mariolike list problem to the point where I have 4 character lists across the ages.

Edgar and Sabin are always back to back on it. Sabin has always been one spot higher so I guess that makes me "a Sabin guy" but before I opened the document I thought Edgar was going to be the guy one spot higher.

Also when I ranked FF1-FF6 characters on the board they were literally the same write-up (Sabin was 3 and Edgar was 4, but they shared a write-up)

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Lopen
10/19/20 5:01:37 PM
#131:


Of course as a contrast, glancing through it, X-Death is 1 and Gilgamesh is 2 on that same list. Two other linked characters in my mind, two that I really like, but not sharing a write-up.

I am definitely "an X-Death guy" despite not considering myself "a Sabin guy"

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Leonhart4
10/19/20 5:02:29 PM
#132:


I'm a Sabin guy because of suplexes

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colliding
10/19/20 5:04:05 PM
#133:


I think my first few times playing I liked Edgar more but I've come to appreciate Sabin more as I get older.

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The Mana Sword
10/19/20 5:06:21 PM
#134:


much more of an exdeath guy myself

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andylt
10/19/20 5:34:18 PM
#135:


I look forward to also having strong opinions on VI!

Anyway, I now own Tactics after jumping through a few hoops. The game was $9.99 on the store so I got a $10 US PSN card, only to then find out I'd have to pay 0.50 tax on top of that (Is this normal over there? Weird). Thankfully I didn't have to get another card as I changed address to a couple different states til I found one that evidently doesn't have sales tax (way to go Georgia!). Bought, dl'd, installed, yay Tactics! It will most likely be my next FF playthrough. I know it's 4th in the poll but VA and VIA might take a while to get and my Game Pass just ran out, also Delita made it past Garnet in SMFFFC so it seems fitting.

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LeonhartFour
10/19/20 5:52:35 PM
#136:


The Mana Sword posted...
much more of an exdeath guy myself

keep the X in

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pjbasis
10/19/20 6:02:08 PM
#137:


andylt posted...
I look forward to also having strong opinions on VI!

Same energy with me and 12/13 which WILL happen within a year mark my words

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colliding
10/19/20 8:40:16 PM
#138:


andylt posted...
also Delita made it past Garnet in SMFFFC so it seems fitting.

duh, cause Delita is awesome and Garnet is... well, not bad exactly but pretty middle of the road

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Nanis23
10/19/20 8:56:43 PM
#139:


Why the fuck would anyone poll stuff this topic

I mean I like FFV don't get me wrong but there is no way in hell I would recommend it over VI and/or IX

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Not Dave
10/19/20 9:10:24 PM
#140:


seems like a leap to assume "it's not authentic, therefore it won't save properly" - might be worth just giving the cart a try

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andylt
10/19/20 9:26:36 PM
#141:


I guess I'm just worried that I'll play and it'll save fine then like 30 hours in it'll corrupt and I'll lose all progress, I'd rather not risk that. Aren't GBA bootlegs pretty notorious for dodgy saves?

Nanis23 posted...
Why the fuck would anyone poll stuff this topic

I mean I like FFV don't get me wrong but there is no way in hell I would recommend it over VI and/or IX
No idea why anyone would stuff but V was in a pretty solid 3rd place before the noticeable stuffing started.

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LeonhartFour
10/19/20 9:51:48 PM
#142:


colliding posted...
duh, cause Delita is awesome and Garnet is... well, not bad exactly but pretty middle of the road

Dagger doing so well in SMFFFC on a consistent basis is the prime example of how much this board overhypes FFIX

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Nanis23
10/19/20 9:55:52 PM
#143:


LeonhartFour posted...
Dagger doing so well in SMFFFC on a consistent basisis the prime example of how much this board overhypes FFIX
No because Squall "whatever" Emohart


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LeonhartFour
10/19/20 9:57:29 PM
#144:


Nanis23 posted...
No because Squall "whatever" Emohart

I don't know what Squall doing well has to do with FFIX being overhyped.

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VeryInsane
10/19/20 10:04:51 PM
#145:


I've been replaying a little bit of Triple Tri- er, FF8 and I think my opinion of Squall has improved considerably tbh

Maybe the 3rd best protagonist in FF? The Squall/Tidus/Cloud cluster is pretty tough to decide upon who's the best

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LeonhartFour
10/19/20 10:09:26 PM
#146:


hey now Ramza would like to be included in that conversation too

one day he'll win an SMFFFC too

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MZero
10/19/20 10:26:47 PM
#147:


Yes, poor Ramza...

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VeryInsane
10/19/20 10:31:28 PM
#148:


LeonhartFour posted...
hey now Ramza would like to be included in that conversation too

one day he'll win an SMFFFC too

Ramza's my favorite! I just meant of those 3 for who's third, all similar in their own ways.

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andylt
10/20/20 12:36:32 PM
#149:


I see team Layle has shown up.

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Nanis23
10/20/20 1:22:11 PM
#150:


What the fuck lmao

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