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SpiritSephiroth 09/11/20 8:31:17 PM #54: |
If a movie shows little girls flaunting their stuff in the most sexualized way possible, while wearing skimpy outfits, then it's not acceptable. I dont give a fuck what message they're trying to put across.
Those are actual little girls that did those actions, with scenes that could fuel a pedophiles dreams. Its disgusting. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BadderHare 09/11/20 8:33:14 PM #55: |
SpiritSephiroth posted...
If a movie shows little girls flaunting their stuff in the most sexualized way possible, while wearing skimpy outfits, then it's not acceptable. I dont give a fuck what message they're trying to put across. *hurriedly throwing hard drives into my microwave*: you're ignoring context ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpiritSephiroth 09/11/20 8:35:24 PM #56: |
BadderHare posted...
*hurriedly throwing hard drives into my microwave*: you're ignoring context CoNtExT! Who gives a fuck about that when those scenes were actually shot? Little girls were put in outfits like whores and danced like strippers. Nothing makes that okay at all. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esrac 09/11/20 8:35:39 PM #57: |
SpiritSephiroth posted...
If a movie shows little girls flaunting their stuff in the most sexualized way possible, while wearing skimpy outfits, then it's not acceptable. I dont give a fuck what message they're trying to put across. Look, when the scenes of little girls in your movie are too spicy for 8chan, maybe you need to tone it down. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpiritSephiroth 09/11/20 8:36:28 PM #58: |
Nevermind I just realized what you were trying to say. My bad.
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Slayerblade11 09/11/20 8:38:37 PM #59: |
SpiritSephiroth posted...
CoNtExT! Don't forget the prolonged zoomed in camera shots lingering on their asses and spread legs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 09/11/20 8:38:51 PM #60: |
SpiritSephiroth posted...
If a movie shows little girls flaunting their stuff in the most sexualized way possible, while wearing skimpy outfits, then it's not acceptable. I dont give a fuck what message they're trying to put across.So we should limit art if it can be interprated the wrong way by the wrong people? Now if the people involved are pedophiles that's different. How are arguments like this any more valid then the stupid SJW comments about Joker potentially leading to imitation killings? Seems canceling is fine when it's something you disagree with. No movie can make me want to do anything. I am not a pedophile or a murderer and no movie can make me one. --- Occam's razor: The simplest solution (answer) is most likely the right one ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BadderHare 09/11/20 8:40:45 PM #61: |
creativerealms posted...
So we should limit art if it can be interprated the wrong way by the wrong people? no one is interpreting anything you weirdo actual children were made to get up on a stage and literally shake their ass while imitating masturbation what a fucking terrible hill to die on seriously ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BadderHare 09/11/20 8:42:56 PM #63: |
shockthemonkey posted...
Look, women arent allowed to make art that depicts how they grew up, and if you disagree youre a pedo. Yes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slayerblade11 09/11/20 8:43:42 PM #64: |
shockthemonkey posted...
Look, women arent allowed to make art that depicts how they grew up, and if you disagree youre a pedo. You know they can do this perfectly fine without sexualizing the actors involved right ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpiritSephiroth 09/11/20 8:46:08 PM #66: |
creativerealms posted...
So we should limit art if it can be interprated the wrong way by the wrong people? Now if the people involved are pedophiles that's different. I'm not sure why I have to explain this. These are minors. What should minors not partake in? Any sexual activity. What should people not do? Exploit minors in a bid to put a message across. What have these people done? Used minors, sexually, to make a movie, that has even been given a rating that say minors themselves shouldn't watch as far as I know. If not even minors can watch a movie that contains minors partaking in sexual acts, does that mean theres a problem? I would think so. This is nothing comparable to Joker. Nothing in the Joker movie actually broke any laws. This movie probably did concerning children. Also cancelling a whole company or industry is totally different than cancelling one individual. And if a company has committed a crime such as, exploit minors sexually, then people need to point that out. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IShall_Run_Amok 09/11/20 8:46:42 PM #67: |
creativerealms posted...
How are arguments liie this any more valid then the stupid SJW comments about Joker potentially leading to imitation killings?They're not even arguing about copycat child exploitation (primarily because, ya know, there doesn't actually seem to be any such child exploitation in the movie, beyond the societal child exploitation inherent in capitalism). They're arguing that pedophiles might like it, and that this is the problem. A better comparison would be getting upset about The Joker, because someone who really loves violence might see The Joker, and then masturbate to it. --- Asking for a friend, who is a tree ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BadderHare 09/11/20 8:47:57 PM #68: |
IShall_Run_Amok posted...
there doesn't actually seem to be any such child exploitation in the movie I wonder how many times dudes like this are going to ignore the actual movie so they can keep desperately defending the sexualization of children ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpiritSephiroth 09/11/20 8:49:05 PM #69: |
creativerealms posted...
No movie can make me want to do anything. I am not a pedophile or a murderer and no movie can make me one. You can't speak for the pedophiles either, who have probably got so much material off this movie. Little girls shaking their butts, humping the floor, flashing their bits and touching themselves. BUT WHO CARES ITS ART RIGHT? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IShall_Run_Amok 09/11/20 8:53:20 PM #71: |
BadderHare posted...
I wonder how many times dudes like this are going to ignore the actual movie so they can keep desperately defending the sexualization of childrenSeeing clips of the actual movie has done nothing to change my stance that there is no child exploitation in the movie, beyond the exploitation inherent in capitalism. I don't want to actually watch the whole thing because its still gross. I'd rather watch that one 70s movies where a guy stabs horses in the eye and Richard Burton is his psychiatrist. Sorry if I don't join you on your misadventures in fake outrage. --- Asking for a friend, who is a tree ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Delirious_Beard 09/11/20 8:54:24 PM #72: |
it's not even just the dancing itself, but the way it's shot and framed
really don't know how anyone could have thought that was a good idea --- https://imgur.com/hLHUnOI You act like I don't know my own way home ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cuttin_in_farm 09/11/20 8:58:23 PM #73: |
Slayerblade11 posted...
You know they can do this perfectly fine without sexualizing the actors involved right Honest question. How? Like, with war. You have a fake war with fake gore. But sexual based stuff is... hard to actually display without actually doing it. Or using animation. Hell, sexual abuse can be implied well enough. But I dunno how this particular topic could be implied without being shown? --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PoundGarden 09/11/20 8:58:33 PM #74: |
What's interesting is I dont remember this kind of outrage over movies like Superbad
AlephZero posted... anyone who sees what's in the movie and still defends it is a pedo "Anyone who sees what the Nazi's did in Schindler's List and still defends the film is a Nazi" You're missing the point, and I love how you folks are just going to ignore the audience being progressively more disgusted by their routine. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BadderHare 09/11/20 8:59:03 PM #75: |
IShall_Run_Amok posted...
my stance that there is no child exploitation in the movie beyond making literal children do what they did of course ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 09/11/20 9:01:24 PM #77: |
cuttin_in_farm posted...
Honest question. Well there was a woman who tried to make short video documentaries about it in movies where it already existed some years ago but I guess it was just never popular. Oh and then I think she tried to do something similar with video games and the response was to send her photoshopped pictures of her being raped. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FlameTurtle 09/11/20 9:03:44 PM #78: |
BadderHare posted...
I wonder how many times dudes like this are going to ignore the actual movie so they can keep desperately defending the sexualization of childrenHave you watched the actual movie? --- Updated Prediction for the 2020 election: https://www.270towin.com/maps/xGWGg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BadderHare 09/11/20 9:05:03 PM #79: |
FlameTurtle posted...
Have you watched the actual movie? I'm not going to keep repeating myself because you people desperately needed this movie to be made for some mysterious reason. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IShall_Run_Amok 09/11/20 9:08:11 PM #80: |
BadderHare posted...
beyond making literal children do what they did of courseNeedless to say, they probably didn't do anything that hurt them. Unless people who are angry at the movie start finding their names and addresses. --- Asking for a friend, who is a tree ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fam_Fam 09/11/20 9:18:13 PM #81: |
is children dancing with your clothes on sexual (something kids do all the time, hell my 3 year old cousin it with clothes off too)?
if you find it sexually stimulating, then that's what you are getting out of it ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Perascamin 09/11/20 9:20:47 PM #82: |
BadderHare posted...
sexualizing young girls to criticize the sexualization of young girlsYou act like this isn't something that already happens though. Go to a basketball game at your local elementary school and pay attention to the cheer routines they have the girls do. It's been like this for decades. --- I've grown. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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marc55 09/11/20 10:32:25 PM #83: |
shockthemonkey posted...
Movie brings issue with society to persons attention and the woman who made this movie wants it shown at schools to spark discussions about this issue --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PoundGarden 09/12/20 12:10:54 AM #84: |
SpiritSephiroth posted...
CoNtExT! You know that is literally the point of the movie, right? Showing that this actually does happen (Dance Moms, Honey Boo Boo, child pageantry in general) and for reasons unknown it's "acceptable". Yet make a movie calling it out and everyone loses their mind lol. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ultimate reaver 09/12/20 12:15:02 AM #85: |
If a piece of media features something in it, it supports it no matter what context or stance it takes about it is the most tumblr shit lib stance imaginable so horseshoe theory is now real I guess
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AlephZero 09/12/20 12:17:43 AM #86: |
AlephZero posted...
what's the acceptable context for a close up shot of a 12 year old's crotch --- "life is overrated" - Seiichi Omori 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cuttin_in_farm 09/12/20 12:22:14 AM #87: |
Slayerblade11 posted...
You know they can do this perfectly fine without sexualizing the actors involved right cuttin_in_farm posted... Honest question. If you are uncomfortable with whats presented... congratulations... thats the point? --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MutantJohn 09/12/20 12:24:57 AM #88: |
I love how a fictional movies makes people this upset
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ultimate reaver 09/12/20 12:24:58 AM #89: |
Not all media is meant to make you comfortable and more powerful media often attempts to shock you with the presence of things you know are bad or wrong in order to elicit an emotional reaction.
I wonder how people would react to the ending scene of The Devils Arithmatic nowadays --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Perascamin 09/12/20 12:53:14 AM #90: |
AlephZero 31 minutes ago
#86 undefined posted... what's the acceptable context for a close up shot of a 12 year old's crotch I really suggest you attend an elementary basketball game or watch a children's dance team sometime soon. The sexualization of children is something that is highly prevalent in society and it just happens to be something people pretend does not exist --- I've grown. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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St0rmFury 09/12/20 1:12:25 AM #91: |
So we shouldn't make any more war movies because vets might feel uncomfortable and trigger their PTSD?
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marc55 09/12/20 1:41:41 AM #92: |
Perascamin posted...
AlephZero 31 minutes ago the woman who made this movie said she wants it to be shown at schools i think her goal is to put the spotlight on this problem --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PBusted 09/12/20 1:47:42 AM #93: |
marc55 posted...
the woman who made this movie said she wants it to be shown at schools i think her goal is to put the spotlight on this problemThe funny thing is I think the US actually has a bigger problem with this than France does, yet they're the ones most outraged over it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Abiz_ 09/12/20 1:48:58 AM #94: |
PBusted posted...
Isn't this basically war movies and spec ops the ine.No, war movies are actually used as recruitment tools. So cuties should be the opposite of that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PBusted 09/12/20 1:51:34 AM #95: |
Abiz_ posted...
No, war movies are actually used as recruitment tools. So cuties should be the opposite of that. I don't watch war movies but that's scary if true. Spec ops is definitely not that though. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iPhone_7 09/12/20 1:56:43 AM #96: |
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Illuminoius 09/12/20 2:11:12 AM #97: |
i feel so fucking sorry for all the children who suffered through having to perform for this movie
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averagejoel 09/12/20 2:14:30 AM #98: |
PoundGarden posted...
You know that is literally the point of the movie, right? Showing that this actually does happen (Dance Moms, Honey Boo Boo, child pageantry in general) and for reasons unknown it's "acceptable". Yet make a movie calling it out and everyone loses their mind lol.this is absolutely correct. I'd like to add, though, that it's perfectly possible that the film goes too far and/or fails to present that point in some other way obviously out-of-context clips on youtube are not enough to determine that though --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlephZero 09/12/20 9:06:37 AM #99: |
the alt right is losing its mind over this harmless children's movie
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DarkRoast 09/12/20 9:08:16 AM #100: |
At first I was laughing at conservatives regarding this, however after having seen some clips from this movie, I do think it clearly went too far regardless of what message it was trying to convey.
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Fam_Fam 09/12/20 9:10:12 AM #101: |
Illuminoius posted...
i feel so fucking sorry for all the children who suffered through having to perform for this movie yeah im sure they are traumatized ... Copied to Clipboard!
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coh 09/12/20 9:13:59 AM #102: |
Of course CE would defend this movie
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chrono625 09/12/20 9:16:35 AM #103: |
Fam_Fam posted...
yeah im sure they are traumatized dude I keep seeing you debate and try to spin an angle to defend the content of the movie. they could have gotten their message across without crotch shots of the 11 year old girls and the scene where they do a sexy routine to escape two creepy security guards. the message isnt the problem - its how they are conveying the message. and my niece does dance and what they have them do I see as a problem but it isnt as intense as what the movie is portraying. and I am also against kid pageants and that stuff. South Park did a crude episode involving that as well that given its reputation hyperbolized it well. and on the subject of canceling Netflix, its dumb and its one of the many things I dislike about society over the past few years. Cancel culture is fucking stupid and has no place in society over petty things. --- https://imgur.com/Rqk1DYV - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's ... Copied to Clipboard!
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