Poll of the Day > Will anyone actually go see bill and teds on the 28th, or pay the cost to stream

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I'm afraid it's going to have a horrible horrible box office, cause nobody is gonna see it. I checked with my local drive in and they are not showing it, and while I'm a fan, I'm not paying the streaming price on release (It's freaking $25 to stream it!!).

I think they are making a HUGE mistake releasing it at $25 tbh, yeah their numbers would be lower if they released it for $12 or so, but you would get alot more people actually streaming it right away, instead of waiting a few months and saving $20.

Ugh, I hope I'm wrong.

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Neither. I'll watch it when it's available to watch at home though.

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I'll be renting it when it is available for normal rental prices.


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wwinterj25 posted...

Neither. I'll watch it when it's available to watch at home though.

Bugmeat posted...

I'll be renting it when it is available for normal rental prices.

Yeah, that is what I figure, and they are gonna miss out big time because of that. They should have released it straight to stream etc, for normal new streaming prices (6-10$), which is still significantly more than people will have to pay in 3 months.

If they did, I would have rented it, cause who cares about 4-8$ if I get to see something I like right away.

But this way they will get a pittance, places like DVDxpress rent the movies for as little as 25 cents (with a coupon, twice a month), and a max price of $1.50, so they can't really be making ANY profit off those because obviously DVD express is making money as well.

EVen releasing it to stream at $5 a pop would have worked out better for them I bet.

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wolfy42 posted...

I'm afraid it's going to have a horrible horrible box office, cause nobody is gonna see it. I checked with my local drive in and they are not showing it, and while I'm a fan, I'm not paying the streaming price on release (It's freaking $25 to stream it!!).

I think they are making a HUGE mistake releasing it at $25 tbh, yeah their numbers would be lower if they released it for $12 or so, but you would get alot more people actually streaming it right away, instead of waiting a few months and saving $20.

Ugh, I hope I'm wrong.

I really enjoy the Bill and Ted series and I think even under ideal circumstances this movie would not do well. It's not a series people constantly talk about fondly so you have very few nostalgia dollars, and it's also not considered a tremendously good series of films to get people to give it a chance.

Probably why we didn't see a sequel for nearly 30 years. I do want to point out though that part of why those prices are higher is because multiple people can see it, if you have a family of 4 paying $25 is far more feasible than if you are alone. If they had some way to know exactly how many people were going to watch it then you would likely see more varied pricing, like $25 for a family of 4 $10 for one guy. But unlike a movie theater unless they put cameras in our homes that can monitor us, figuring out how many people are watching it is harder.

Monopoman posted...

Probably why we didn't see a sequel for nearly 30 years. I do want to point out though that part of why those prices are higher is because multiple people can see it, if you have a family of 4 paying $25 is far more feasible than if you are alone. If they had some way to know exactly how many people were going to watch it then you would likely see more varied pricing, like $25 for a family of 4 $10 for one guy. But unlike a movie theater unless they put cameras in our homes that can monitor us, figuring out how many people are watching it is harder.

I believe that is their reasoning but it's faulty.

Basically you have to provide a service for the money, something you get above and beyond what you will get renting it in 3 months or so, for a fraction of the price.

In 3 months you can rent it for $1.50 or less, and the same family can watch it just the same.

You don't have the movie theater experience etc, and we are not in a day and age when people are desperate for a new movie to watch etc (Even with covid, there are just so many options).

Trying to charge $25 is crazy because you will get less then 1/10th as many people watching it, than if you charged $10, and 1/20th as many if you charged $5.

I think there are alot of Bill and Ted's fans out there, and while the movie wouldn't have been a box office smash, it would have done fairly well in normal times. The way they are releasing it though is going to kill it hard.

I guess people could all get together and watch it as a group, but ......covid........so yeah, this is just a bad idea. I'd say hold off on releasing it until things get back to normal, or bite the bullet and release it for $10, and in 3 months drop it to $5 like normal. You'll take a bit of a hit, but actually more people may pay the $10 then normally would go to the theaters, or wait for the $5...because it's not that much more money for seeing it right away.

Too late now I guess.

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Ill probably watch it when its on Netflix or Hulu or whatever

I loved those two movies and the cartoon when I was a kid but its been so long that it seems kinda weird to be making another one now. Some things I think dont really need the remake/reboot/long awaited sequel treatment and should just be left alone

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wolfy42 posted...

I believe that is their reasoning but it's faulty.

Basically you have to provide a service for the money, something you get above and beyond what you will get renting it in 3 months or so, for a fraction of the price.

In 3 months you can rent it for $1.50 or less, and the same family can watch it just the same.

You don't have the movie theater experience etc, and we are not in a day and age when people are desperate for a new movie to watch etc (Even with covid, there are just so many options).

Trying to charge $25 is crazy because you will get less then 1/10th as many people watching it, than if you charged $10, and 1/20th as many if you charged $5.

I think there are alot of Bill and Ted's fans out there, and while the movie wouldn't have been a box office smash, it would have done fairly well in normal times. The way they are releasing it though is going to kill it hard.

I guess people could all get together and watch it as a group, but ......covid........so yeah, this is just a bad idea. I'd say hold off on releasing it until things get back to normal, or bite the bullet and release it for $10, and in 3 months drop it to $5 like normal. You'll take a bit of a hit, but actually more people may pay the $10 then normally would go to the theaters, or wait for the $5...because it's not that much more money for seeing it right away.

Too late now I guess.

Well theaters these days are becoming less and less relevant, it seems like people only make an effort to hit the theaters for BIG movies. I am talking the biggest 3-4 movies of the year, other than that not many want to pay the extra money and spend the time going to a theater.

As you say it's far cheaper to wait and getting a nice system at home to watch it on is becoming far easier. We also are living in the world where streaming is everywhere and we are getting smashed with tons of content, so that makes theaters less relevant. Back in say the 80s or 90s going to the theater was more common because there was less competition for those watching content.

Mead posted...

Ill probably watch it when its on Netflix or Hulu or whatever

I loved those two movies and the cartoon when I was a kid but its been so long that it seems kinda weird to be making another one now. Some things I think dont really need the remake/reboot/long awaited sequel treatment and should just be left alone

I loved the first one, it's one of my favorite movies actually, but was more meh on the second one. Never saw the cartoons (actually I may look them up, that sounds kinda cool).

From what I have seen, the third is kinda a downer a bit as well lol, minor spoilers

They basically fail to create a song, and don't unite the world etc, and I guess the movie is about getting them back on track). Thing is they look massively old because...well.....they are freaking massively old now lolz. Hell they are older than me.

So it's basically geriatric Bill and Teds and even those people waiting for the movie are gonna both be depressed about how old they have gotten (Bill and Ted, and themselves), and miss Rufus (honestly even worse).

Still I think it could be a fun romp if they keep a light heart/air (just not as light as Bogus Journey/death etc).

I do think part of the intial appeal was the youthful energy of Bill and Ted and the endless enthusiasm etc, but now that they are old, that is kinda gone, along with the whole failure stuff etc.

I certainly wanna watch it, but I also am not sure it's really gonna work at this point, it's a few decades too late for it's core audience sadly.

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Monopoman posted...

We also are living in the world where streaming is everywhere and we are getting smashed with tons of content, so that makes theaters less relevant.

Basically this, I've been freaking self quarentining for 6+ months and I STILL have a freakload of shows in my backlog to watch, a new season of Lucifer starting tonight, and more stuff coming out all the time (boys 2 next, but I still have Hanna 2 and Jack Ryan 2 etc).

In 6 months at no point have I sat at home thinking, I have absolutely nothing to watch!! In fact, I have not subscribed to Hulu or Amazon in all that time, so there are a freakton of shows on both of em, I have not watched a bunch of new stuff on HBO either.

I think it would take me a good 2-3 months just to catch up, and that is just with things that are right up my alley, and not including shows I could happily rewatch at this point.

We don't need movies anymore, we have plenty to see, and if we just wait (often like with video games) the price drops drastically.

They are chopping off their legs because they don't realize it's a new market and they need to change with the times. They can easily make as much money digitally from home as from theaters as the Theaters took part of the ticket price as well (Even though they make most of it on concenssions). Focus on reducing distritubtion costs by going pure digital/streaming, lower the price per rental (to around what 1 person would pay in the theater, and while you won't make as much as before, you'll make a good profit still on anything worth watching.

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If it was still 1990 I might think about it. As is, it's been years since I've given a shit about the franchise and the trailer kind of makes the movie look a bit like ass, so I have zero motivation to really see it.

I might watch it some day if I can do it via almost no extra money or effort, but I'm not going out of my way to catch it.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

If it was still 1990 I might think about it. As is, it's been years since I've given a shit about the franchise and the trailer kind of makes the movie look a bit like ass, so I have zero motivation to really see it.

I might watch it some day if I can do it via almost no extra money or effort, but I'm not going out of my way to catch it.

I think it will at least be pretty decent, I doubt Keanu would have signed on for a shitty sequel he doesn't need the series at all.

If any theater around here is showing it (I don't think they are) we will do that. If not we are planning a viewing party for it on the 28th.
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wolfy42 posted...

a new season of Lucifer starting tonight

I almost forgot.

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Monopoman posted...

I think it will at least be pretty decent, I doubt Keanu would have signed on for a shitty sequel he doesn't need the series at all.

The thing is, Keanu didn't "sign on" for the film. He's literally the only reason it's happening at all.

Keanu's the one who wanted to play Ted again, because he's mentioned he really loved working with Alex Winter, and just generally loved the whole filming process, and kind of wanted the excuse to hang out with everybody again. He's been pushing to get a third movie made for years. Alex Winter had actually mostly retired from acting (he's said in multiple interviews that he enjoys writing, directing, and producing way more than acting), and had to be pressured by Keanu to do it. Pretty much everyone else was fine with there never being a third movie, but Keanu really wanted to do it.

So I feel like, if anything, Keanu's the one who would most be willing to compromise to get the movie made even if it wasn't that good, just because he wanted to make -A- movie.

That being said, it COULD be a good movie. It could also be a movie that Keanu sincerely thinks is great but which I don't. I don't really care enough to find out, because I suspect it'll just leave me feeling like they should have just left the franchise dead.
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