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Full Throttle 08/18/20 12:44:38 AM #1: |
Would you start boycotting disney cartoons if they start adding lgbtq characters?
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Following the debut of its recent episode, show creatorDana Terrace said the lead character, Luz Noceda, a Dominican-American Girl is definitely bisexual The Owl House premiered in January around 14 y/o Luz who finds a portal to a fantasy world and attempts to fulfill her dream of becoming a witch attending school there She was known to be attracted to male characters but recently in "Enchanging Grom Fight", she starts to explore a relationship between Luz and Amity Blight, a female student there She tells her she has feelings for Luz and wanted to ask her to go to Grom, a prom like event and then they dance Terrace said she had to fight Disney leadership to ensure queer kids were in the main cast as she made the episode as part of her own experience growing up when she went to Prom She refused to backdown for her desire to represent LGBTQ characters as she is bi herself and her stubborness paid off as disney are now supportive of her work She said "Representation matters! Always fight to make what YOU want to see!". Would you start boycotting Disney if they added LGBTQ characters in their animated shows? https://i.imgur.com/wNbpEZq.jpg https://i.imgur.com/8tLjXpc.jpg https://i.imgur.com/KSOb4Dh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/IbYsgl8.jpg https://i.imgur.com/6iyh0Mq.jpg https://i.imgur.com/s9cah27.jpg https://i.imgur.com/R2zKoUg.jpg --- The News Will Continue...For Now call me mrduckbear, sweater monkeys. I'm an Asian Liberal. RESIST The Alt-Right ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 08/18/20 12:48:06 AM #2: |
I don't care about the sexuality of any anyone. What matters is the media is good. I have no interest in this.
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Muscles 08/18/20 12:57:43 AM #3: |
I would rather see new bi characters instead of changing existing characters so this is a good thing imo but I don't watch Disney channel stuff anymore so I won't be watching it for that reason
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LinkPizza 08/18/20 2:18:57 AM #4: |
Good for her! Though, I haven't watched Disney Channel is so long. But good for her!
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YoukaiSlayer 08/18/20 3:06:48 AM #5: |
Muscles posted...
I would rather see new bi characters instead of changing existing characters so this is a good thing imo but I don't watch Disney channel stuff anymore so I won't be watching it for that reasonThis is my exact opinion. --- I'm ninja (you can't see me) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Noop_Noop 08/18/20 3:07:47 AM #6: |
Yes, Disney is super supportive of the gay community. Or wait, what's the opposite of that?
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Millea 08/18/20 5:25:32 AM #7: |
14 year olds shouldn't be being sexualized
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Link_of_time 08/18/20 5:41:18 AM #8: |
Is this the same show that was giving off some pe do vibes in their original trailer?
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Joker_X_II 08/18/20 6:13:22 AM #9: |
Muscles posted...
I would rather see new bi characters instead of changing existing characters so this is a good thing imo but I don't watch Disney channel stuff anymore so I won't be watching it for that reason This. I hate "forced diversity" as much as the next guy, but the truth is there's nothing wrong with finally seeing an ORIGINAL character for a change. Let's this "representation" speak for itself, instead of piggybacking 'the message' on established media meant for everyone else. --- PSA: "Real Gamers*" don't pay for Micro-transactions. *Pro-tip: You're not 'playing' the game, if you're paying your way through it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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slacker03150 08/18/20 6:33:28 AM #10: |
https://youtu.be/SiSDk4AT3dc
Technically Luz hasn't shown many bi tendencies yet. She had an episode where she went on a quest and admired a guy with a buff bod and blushed at a cute boy, but has only blushed at older girl who called her cute. Amity on the other hand is super into Luz. https://youtu.be/wG8-9kOBS-4 --- I am awesome and so are you. Lenny gone but not forgotten. - 12/10/2015 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MeteoricBurst 08/18/20 7:09:20 AM #11: |
Meh. The usual people are gonna praise Disney for whatever when they just took the safe route as always. It's much easier to do a bi/gay character if it's a girl. Especially if they younger. People generally find that far less offensive than with males. This would have been news if it was a boy.
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Kungfu Kenobi 08/18/20 7:27:14 AM #12: |
Millea posted...
14 year olds shouldn't be being sexualized If this were a hetero character, most people wouldn't bat an eye at her developing crushes on boys as a normal part of growing up. 14 is a reasonable age for that. That doesn't change just because she's LGBT. Muscles posted... I would rather see new bi characters instead of changing existing characters so this is a good thing imo but I don't watch Disney channel stuff anymore so I won't be watching it for that reason This doesn't really feel like a ret-con. I don't follow Owl House but I do see online discussion, and from what I've heard Luz has been acting "probably not completely straight" pretty much from the start. The betting pool was largely split between bi or just weird. --- This album is not available to the public. Even if it were, you wouldn't wanna listen to it! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fam_Fam 08/18/20 7:37:58 AM #13: |
and the masses cheer at teen girls getting romantic with each other!
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LinkPizza 08/18/20 7:46:28 AM #14: |
slacker03150 posted...
Amity on the other hand is super into Luz. Yeah. That is definitely true! Easy to see from the videos you provided, tbh... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PK_Spam 08/18/20 8:15:17 AM #15: |
The animation in that dance scene looked very good. Is the show actually any good?
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC 08/18/20 8:55:03 AM #16: |
FWIW, this episode was written by Molly Ostertag, Noelle Stevenson's (showrunner of She-Ra and the Princesses of Power) wife.
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Lokarin 08/18/20 9:16:20 AM #17: |
why should i care about the sexuality of a 14yo.... I can't ship that without substantial prison time
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slacker03150 08/18/20 11:20:43 AM #18: |
PK_Spam posted...
The animation in that dance scene looked very good. Is the show actually any good?It has a few flaws, but over all it is a very enjoyable show. There is only a few episodes left of the first season and a second season was announced, so it is a good time to get into it if it looks interesting to you. --- I am awesome and so are you. Lenny gone but not forgotten. - 12/10/2015 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyuubi4269 08/18/20 11:31:37 AM #19: |
Lokarin posted...
why should i care about the sexuality of a 14yo.... I can't ship that without substantial prison time You can ship whoever you want, just don't jack yourself off to fanfics. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScritchOwl 08/18/20 11:36:00 AM #20: |
I don't know I feel that anyone who is that worried about the sexlife of a 14 year old (thats not a famaily member worried about life reuining behavior) is like the creeps that were so exited about the olsen twins turning legal that they wouldnt have to hide the fact they been whacking it to full house for years (see robot chicken for reference)
Also I'm not against the lgbt+ inclusion I just say it ahould have the same reaction as a straight character. --- I rather go skinny dipping with a voltorb. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sticky_Derp 08/18/20 12:00:34 PM #21: |
"I'm not against LGBT+ inclusion I just find reasons every instance isn't okay" - people in this topic
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Rasengun 08/18/20 12:05:22 PM #22: |
No wonder cartoons are dying off.
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Judgmenl 08/18/20 12:08:43 PM #23: |
What are you implying Duckbear?
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HValle 08/18/20 12:37:23 PM #24: |
Neat.
Kungfu Kenobi posted... If this were a hetero character, most people wouldn't bat an eye at her developing crushes on boys as a normal part of growing up. 14 is a reasonable age for that. That doesn't change just because she's LGBT.This --- The C is for Courage, just another word for brave O! Oh my god, what a very handsome knaive ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScritchOwl 08/18/20 12:41:02 PM #25: |
Sticky_Derp posted...
"I'm not against LGBT+ inclusion I just find reasons every instance isn't okay" - people in this topic Clearly you didnt read my post. I literally said that lgbt should be treated any differently. Which is pretty clearly the opposite of bigotry. Now you probably didnt mean me but your timing is off. Also trying to grab attention for a character for a personal agenda is abysmal. It happens for the anti gay peops who act like every attack on their sense of masculinty is a terrorist tying to recruit for the queer agenda (uncle for the love of god please shut up next thanks giving) or toxic lg TV t personalities who basically treat their sexuality as a reason to make other people suffer like vegans do with meal plans. I understand that people have differen point of views but seriously people can no longer distinguish between a differing opinion and a personal attack, or they choose not to and remark like quoted post to feign being victimized. --- I rather go skinny dipping with a voltorb. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TsunamiFox 08/18/20 12:52:16 PM #26: |
Anyone else think it's kind of weird that the Amity character looks like a self insert for the writer?
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ChaosAzeroth 08/18/20 12:55:19 PM #27: |
Rasengun posted...
No wonder cartoons are dying off. Pretty sure they're no more dying off than anything else is. Everything is a little fucked right now, and it has nothing to do with what you seem to be implying. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrndNhbrHdCEman 08/18/20 2:12:42 PM #29: |
Judgmenl posted...
What are you implying Duckbear?After seeing that YouTube vid of duckbear Im surprised he pretends to be straight here. --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK ... Copied to Clipboard!
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slacker03150 08/18/20 2:13:37 PM #30: |
quigonzel posted...
Oh shocking. Another lesbian character. Where are all the gay dudes? When will they get representation?!There are 2 in kipo and the age of wonderbeasts. Amazing show btw --- I am awesome and so are you. Lenny gone but not forgotten. - 12/10/2015 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScritchOwl 08/18/20 3:01:38 PM #31: |
quigonzel posted...
Oh shocking. Another lesbian character. Where are all the gay dudes? When will they get representation?! What about robo sexuals. I kow electro ghonerrhea is the screaming death but when are people gonna get to love robots not couting the one dude in th thread that got his roomba pram faced. The closest we got was symbiotic titan. Seriously as soon as the robot and chick came out a couple it got cancelled --- I rather go skinny dipping with a voltorb. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 08/18/20 3:09:16 PM #32: |
quigonzel posted...
Oh shocking. Another lesbian character. Where are all the gay dudes? When will they get representation?! Anime shows some. In Cardcaptor Sakura, the older brother and best friend are lovers. Not in the the American version, though... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YoukaiSlayer 08/18/20 4:40:37 PM #33: |
ScritchOwl posted...
What about robo sexuals.Futurama had at least two full episodes dedicated to robosexuals (the one with fry and the lucy loo bots and the one with amy and bender) so I guess it's already been covered at least once. --- I'm ninja (you can't see me) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kranix1 08/18/20 4:54:55 PM #34: |
*in*???
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Joker_X_II 08/18/20 5:08:32 PM #35: |
Sticky_Derp posted...
"I'm not against LGBT+ inclusion I just find reasons every instance isn't okay" - people in this topic Giving in to your self-entitlement is not bigotry. You got your representation and "equality", you're just demanding more at this point.... --- PSA: "Real Gamers*" don't pay for Micro-transactions. *Pro-tip: You're not 'playing' the game, if you're paying your way through it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nade Duck 08/18/20 6:01:39 PM #36: |
TsunamiFox posted...
Anyone else think it's kind of weird that the Amity character looks like a self insert for the writer?i'd say this is probably a good indication of quality. --- https://imgur.com/ElACjJD "Most of the time, I have a whole lot more sperm inside me than most women do." - adjl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metalsonic66 08/18/20 8:37:25 PM #37: |
I liked Gravity Falls and Star Vs. (The latter could have had a better climax though)
I'm not more or less inclined to watch this just because of a bi chick. Is the show a comedy? A teen romance drama cartoon? Action/adventure? --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DDirtyDastard 08/18/20 8:38:47 PM #38: |
Millea posted...
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Metalsonic66 08/18/20 8:39:04 PM #39: |
quigonzel posted...
Where are all the gay dudes? When will they get representation?!She-Ra has a few. And a few others who are flamboyant but possibly straight? --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blightzkrieg 08/18/20 8:41:52 PM #40: |
There's a minor gay couple in Netflix's the Dragon Prince but no lesbians that I recall.
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LinkPizza 08/18/20 8:55:17 PM #41: |
Blightzkrieg posted...
The gay older brother in Card Captor Sakura is mostly subtext I thought the Japanese version made it pretty clear he and his best friend were in love. But maybe Im just remembering it wrong... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScritchOwl 08/18/20 9:22:29 PM #42: |
Blightzkrieg posted...
There's a minor gay couple in Netflix's the Dragon Prince but no lesbians that I recall. The child princess that refused to go to war had two mothers. Which hinted at a progressive monarchy as non had simular features hinting at an adopted princess rather than an born heir. --- I rather go skinny dipping with a voltorb. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blightzkrieg 08/18/20 9:28:18 PM #43: |
ScritchOwl posted...
The child princess that refused to go to war had two mothers. Which hinted at a progressive monarchy as non had simular features hinting at an adopted princess rather than an born heir.Ah I knew I was forgetting something, that's right. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TsunamiFox 08/18/20 9:47:25 PM #44: |
Nade Duck posted...
i'd say this is probably a good indication of quality.Not sure if sarcasm --- Switch FC: 2084-0561-4244, PSN: Blood_Wizard Currently Playing: Trails of Cold Steel 2. Also two gacha but who's counting? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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deoxxys 08/18/20 9:54:10 PM #45: |
Millea posted...
14 year olds shouldn't be being sexualized@Millea @DDirtyDastard Omg young people having crushes and dating isnt sexualization, its just life, because believe it or not people start dating as young as 13. Depicting a couple in a cartoon is not sexual. It already happens in other cartoons with straight pairings, why should it matter now that theyre gay? (Not that I am unaware there are people probably who do still bitch about that, some karens or something). --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muscles 08/18/20 11:03:01 PM #46: |
Kungfu Kenobi posted...
This doesn't really feel like a ret-con. I don't follow Owl House but I do see online discussion, and from what I've heard Luz has been acting "probably not completely straight" pretty much from the start. The betting pool was largely split between bi or just weird.It's not a retcon, at least as far as I know, I think you got something mistaken. I'm just saying it's good to see original minority characters instead of retconning them in existing franchises, this is the right way to bring diversity. --- Muscles Chicago Bears | Chicago Blackhawks | Chicago Bulls | Chicago Cubs | NIU Huskies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScritchOwl 08/19/20 12:07:33 AM #47: |
deoxxys posted...
@Millea Well it my be more of an aggressive labeling. People want a label for everything. When they get said lael to fan it in the face of others and given that in this case they are trying ignore experimental phases kids go through they want it set in stone and non changing. So yeah the people who are hung up on her being lgbt are perving her more than the show did. It by happend with mlp with the bonbon and hand meme pony. --- I rather go skinny dipping with a voltorb. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zareth 08/19/20 12:10:46 AM #48: |
I bet she's straight in China and the Middle East.
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC 08/19/20 12:17:05 AM #49: |
TsunamiFox posted...
Anyone else think it's kind of weird that the Amity character looks like a self insert for the writer?If you mean Molly Ostertag (episode writer), not really, and a writer wouldn't have enough pull to change a character design anyway. If you mean Dana Terrace (show creator), again, not really. --- "Nature is metal and I'm not becoming a statistic." -- voldothegr8 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bulbinking 08/19/20 12:45:24 AM #50: |
Millea posted...
14 year olds shouldn't be being sexualized --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings 3DS 5370-0410-4945 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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