Board 8 > Who are you going to vote for?

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add a third party option please

colliding posted...

add a third party option please

He did. It's the first option.

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Kanye

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StealThisSheen posted...

He did. It's the first option.

Honestly people saying this almost makes me want to vote for Trump. Almost.

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whatever. I guess the closest option we get to third party is "will not vote" so I'll select that.

BetrayedTangy posted...

Honestly people saying this almost makes me want to vote for Trump. Almost.

what's keeping you from voting trump

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BetrayedTangy posted...

Honestly people saying this almost makes me want to vote for Trump. Almost.

Hey, if that makes you want to vote Trump, you might as well do it! Go for it, embrace the MAGA!

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StealThisSheen posted...

He did. It's the first option.

And the second. 3 votes ftw.

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Dragonair posted...

what's keeping you from voting trump

The fact that I'm voting third party and hate both Trump and Biden

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No option for Link?

BetrayedTangy posted...

Honestly people saying this almost makes me want to vote for Trump. Almost.

You realize that's how we got into this mess in the first place, right?

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If you weren't already brainwashed and after the last 5 months are somehow going to willingly choose to not try to help vote Trump out of office.

Well, even previous Trump voters are smarter than you at that point.

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red13n posted...

If you weren't already brainwashed and after the last 5 months are somehow going to willingly choose to not try to help vote Trump out of office.

Well, even previous Trump voters are smarter than you at that point.

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Gary Johnson got 2 votes for every 1 vote Jill Stein got. Hillary lost Michigan by 10k votes. If Democrats encouraged 3rd party voting in general, it would only have taken 30k 3rd party votes total (20k from Trump to Gary, 10k from Hillary to Stein) to give Hillary the win. That's 1% of the total vote.

Democrats hate 3rd parties so much that they would rather Trump win than give 3rd parties an extra 1% of the vote. Well, that was the case in 2016. Maybe in 2020 they are serious enough about beating Trump that they won't spent 95% of their energy attacking 1% of voters, who are actually helping them?

Nope

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foolm0r0n posted...

Democrats hate 3rd parties so much that they would rather Trump win than give 3rd parties an extra 1% of the vote. Well, that was the case in 2016. Maybe in 2020 they are serious enough about beating Trump that they won't spent 95% of their energy attacking 1% of voters, who are actually helping them?

The GOP isn't any better in this regard. Here in AZ, lawmakers have done everything in their power to keep Libertarians off the ballot (although Greens can easily get on despite having like half as many registered voters)

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I've never registered to vote and probably won't again

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Well Republicans will lose every election ever if the 3rd parties (which are largely weighted to the Libertarian party) grow in general, so that makes sense.

It's the Democrats who militantly oppose that result who don't make sense.

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Obviously democrats and republicans both will do everything in their power to marginalize third parties. They'd have to be stupid not to.

And it's super easy. We already have tons of tools in this topic doing their work for them.
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The last major third party run did nothing but piss everyone off in the end.

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KingButz posted...

Obviously democrats and republicans both will do everything in their power to marginalize third parties. They'd have to be stupid not to.

And it's super easy. We already have tons of tools in this topic doing their work for them.

tell you the same thing I tell the idiot progressives that whine when they don't get 100% of what they want from the people at the top.

You want a third party to be taken seriously, they would need to be winning elections at a local level. Change starts from below.

Otherwise your vote is just going to be looked at as nothing from the major parties.

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I worked collecting signatures for state level third parties in high school. It's a ridiculously steep hill they have to climb

Until we evolve beyond "first past the post" voting, they cannot succeed nationally and you should not vote for them nationally.

I used to believe both democrats and republicans were the same. After doing a lot of research, i realized they were not the same. Try to separate the personalities from the policies, because most politicians are annoying as hell.

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i will not vote

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Kanye

If I can't vote kanye then I'll probably just show up then refuse to vote. Trump is bad but Biden is a fucking disgrace as well I'm not voting for either.

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pepper2012 posted...

Kanye

If I can't vote kanye then I'll probably just show up then refuse to vote.

literally why would you not just stay home


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I will probably not vote unless we are allowed to mail in the vote, but if I do vote, I would not vote for either of these two candidates.

https://www.settleforbiden.org/

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Id crawl over broken glass to vote Trump out of office.

Conveniently I also like Biden.

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It must be nice not having to worry about what negative impact four more years of Trump, or the however many years of his next Supreme Court appointment(s), will have on you or the people like you.

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mnkboy907 posted...

It must be nice not having to worry about what negative impact four more years of Trump, or the however many years of his next Supreme Court appointment(s), will have on you or the people like you.

if we're being real mnk, if you mean non straight people Biden doesn't genuinely care about you either. However he is by default better than Trump

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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

if we're being real mnk, if you mean non straight people Biden doesn't genuinely care about you either. However he is by default better than Trump

Well yes, the most important thing about Biden is that he's not Trump.

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Not "voting for the other guy" vs Trump basically means your ok fucking over a bunch of people because of...at this point I can't even contemplate the reasons for this.

Trump is at this point proven a danger to society, wants to take health care away from millions of Americans, emboldens racism across the country, and basically spits on whatever good we might have thought the constitution stood for.

If you don't have a problem with this and don't understand the need to remove him at all costs...well, I don't think very highly of you, obviously.

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The really weird thing is that it used to be true that for some people all of the damage Trump was doing was not readily apparent in their lives, but now hes fucking over pretty much everyone due to his catastrophic failure with covid. But I guess some people are looking at this clusterfuck and saying I dont mind four more years of that.

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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

if we're being real mnk, if you mean non straight people Biden doesn't genuinely care about you either. However he is by default better than Trump

He was the guy who forced Obama's hand on coming out for marriage equality before he thought it was politically safe!

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LordoftheMorons posted...

But I guess some people are looking at this clusterfuck and saying I dont mind four more years of that.

i'm fascinated to know who actually thinks trump is handling covid well. the anti-trump people think he's doing a horrendous job (obviously), and the "LOCKDOWN IS SLAVERY" people dislike trump for taking any covid-related measures at all.

i could only see someone defending trump on this if they're so blinded by trump love that they're going "well nobody in his position would have handled this better covid is just that terrible and nasty!"

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

i'm fascinated to know who actually thinks trump is handling covid well. the anti-trump people think he's doing a horrendous job (obviously), and the "LOCKDOWN IS SLAVERY" people dislike trump for taking any covid-related measures at all.

i could only see someone defending trump on this if they're so blinded by trump love that they're going "well nobody in his position would have handled this better covid is just that terrible and nasty!"

Trump is handling the economics of it very well. As for the rest.....we'll see in a few months. Wait to see if Europe has a second wave and see how the total damage looks.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

The really weird thing is that it used to be true that for some people all of the damage Trump was doing was not readily apparent in their lives, but now hes fucking over pretty much everyone due to his catastrophic failure with covid. But I guess some people are looking at this clusterfuck and saying I dont mind four more years of that.

The damage the Democratic Party, the neolibs, and neocons have done and are doing to the country is all too obvious. Trump is our only line of defense against them.

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If youre not voting Biden, youre wrong.

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red sox 777 posted...

Trump is handling the economics of it very well. As for the rest.....we'll see in a few months. Wait to see if Europe has a second wave and see how the total damage looks.

No he isnt. GDP fell almost 9.5% last quarter despite us supposedly choosing to save the economy instead of lives. (Of course, thats a false choice; you get the economic damage either way, and the economy wont recover while people are scared for their lives).

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red13n posted...

tell you the same thing I tell the idiot progressives that whine when they don't get 100% of what they want from the people at the top.

You want a third party to be taken seriously, they would need to be winning elections at a local level. Change starts from below.

Otherwise your vote is just going to be looked at as nothing from the major parties.

The system is just not designed to accommodate a 3rd party. It takes a very specific climate for 3rd party candidates to win even local elections, let alone enough to have a sizeable base, and you know as well as I do that your suggestion is impossible.

LordoftheMorons posted...

He was the guy who forced Obama's hand on coming out for marriage equality before he thought it was politically safe!

He gets zero credit for accidentally jumping the gun on a position the administration was going to publicly announce after just 4 years earlier specifically agreeing with Sarah Palin that it was bad.

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not voting

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foolm0r0n posted...

Gary Johnson got 2 votes for every 1 vote Jill Stein got. Hillary lost Michigan by 10k votes. If Democrats encouraged 3rd party voting in general, it would only have taken 30k 3rd party votes total (20k from Trump to Gary, 10k from Hillary to Stein) to give Hillary the win. That's 1% of the total vote.

I'm not sure I follow the logic here, foolmo. Why would Trump voters be swayed to vote for Johnson by Democrat encouragement?

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LordoftheMorons posted...

The really weird thing is that it used to be true that for some people all of the damage Trump was doing was not readily apparent in their lives

And the "But Trump isn't personally impacting you, so you have no reason to dislike him!" argument was always selfish and evil empathy-lacking pricks who thought he was hurting the "right" people.

Reg posted...

And the "But Trump isn't personally impacting you, so you have no reason to dislike him!" argument was always selfish and evil empathy-lacking pricks who thought he was hurting the "right" people.

I agree, but I also think it was just straight up incorrect (it was just that the harm was less obvious and more in setting up the long term decline of the US). I think you'd be hard pressed to find a person whose life hasn't been impacted by covid, though, so even the selfish assholes should be pissed at him.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

No he isnt. GDP fell almost 9.5% last quarter despite us supposedly choosing to save the economy instead of lives. (Of course, thats a false choice; you get the economic damage either way, and the economy wont recover while people are scared for their lives).

That's a lot better than it could have been. There was always going to be a lot of economic damage, no matter what was done.

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third party

I actually kind of like that trump moved the disenfranchisement of brown people to America. At least now we're all forced to deal with it as a country. Biden will just outsource it to other countries so americans can pretend its solved.


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red sox 777 posted...

That's a lot better than it could have been. There was always going to be a lot of economic damage, no matter what was done.

Other countries had comparable GDP losses. The difference is that they got their outbreaks under control, and we didnt. So whereas those other countries economies can begin to recover, were sitting here not able to safely open schools and will probably be dealing with huge disruptions to normal life until a vaccine is widely deployed.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Other countries had comparable GDP losses. The difference is that they got their outbreaks under control, and we didnt. So whereas those other countries economies can begin to recover, were sitting here not able to safely open schools and will probably be dealing with huge disruptions to normal life until a vaccine is widely deployed.

Dude you are predicting the future now. Look at the stock markets, they tell a different story. If you disagree with them of course, you are perfectly free to buy European stocks/short American stocks.

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red sox 777 posted...

Dude you are predicting the future now. Look at the stock markets, they tell a different story. If you disagree with them of course, you are perfectly free to buy European stocks/short American stocks.

how's unemployment in the US right now and what's your prediction for how it will change in the future?

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

how's unemployment in the US right now and what's your prediction for how it will change in the future?

I think it's back down to 10%ish? We just had the 3 best months of job growth in the history of the country. Unemployment will probably keep falling steadily.

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