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MrMallard 08/12/20 2:12:08 PM #101:	The thing is, this doesn't feel like a necessary game. You've got Ultimate Alliance 3, PS4 Spider-Man and the LEGO games. They all pay lip service to the big hitters at Marvel, and they also engage in silly little homages to obscure scraps of Marvel history. Then you have a big, AAA game based on the popular movie Avengers... where the characters look very generic and un-like themselves, engaging in rubbish blockbuster cliches. Like what's the point of seeing a pointless, shitty conflict and team dissolution plot where a plucky young upstart has to get the band back together to save the world when it's obvious that ~~Captain America is going to turn up at some point in the game and lead the Avengers to victory over MODOK or whatever bad guy they picked~~? They're not even hiding it in the promotional material, he's right there in the OP. Like, the reason people like the movies is because they're a little offbeat at times, everything about the characters feels iconic, and while the stories are a bit cookie-cutter and tropey at times, the characters are charming and familiar enough to carry them. None of the characters in this game feel familiar - Bruce Banner looks like a budget Huey Emmerich from Metal Gear Solid, Iron Man and Thor are a bunch of generic-ass action figures with no personality, Black Widow looks terrible... the only character that looks okay is Ms. Marvel, presumably because there's no on-screen version of her yet and her design doesn't feel like an absence of something else. It wouldn't surprise me if this game showed up on What Happened in a couple of months with the info that the game was meant to feature the likenesses of the movie cast. And the dialogue shown so far sounds generic and trite. So there's a plot that - while probably passable on its own - hinges on a story detail that promotional screenshots of the game are spoiling, and subsequently can be worked backwards to a bunch of cliche faff, and characters who look bland as shit and who rattle off some of the most brain-dead, trite dialogue in promotional materials for the game. Literally the only thing I want to see in this game is MODOK, and I severely doubt his appearance alone justifies spending the rest of the game with a bunch of generic play-doh recreations of the Avengers. And again - there have been Marvel games recently that have paid tribute to these characters and done them well enough. This game just looks tedious from the get-go, like it's not worth the effort. The only way I can explain how off-putting I find the designs is if they were planning to use the movie cast for ages, but then the contract ran out and they had to whip up some basic generic approximations of the characters. Spider-Man is its own thing. Ultimate Alliance is its own thing. Even the LEGO games are their own thing. This feels incomplete, like it's chasing something, and I can't pin down its audience. --- Are you proud to be a Mayonnaise American? <cite>MrMallard posted [p:943298156] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>The thing is, this doesn't feel like a necessary game. You've got Ultimate Alliance 3, PS4 Spider-Man and the LEGO games. They all pay lip service to the big hitters at Marvel, and they also engage in silly little homages to obscure scraps of Marvel history. Then you have a big, AAA game based on the popular movie Avengers... where the characters look very generic and un-like themselves, engaging in rubbish blockbuster cliches. Like what's the point of seeing a pointless, shitty conflict and team dissolution plot where a plucky young upstart has to get the band back together to save the world when it's obvious that Captain America is going to turn up at some point in the game and lead the Avengers to victory over MODOK or whatever bad guy they picked? They're not even hiding it in the promotional material, he's right there in the OP. Like, the reason people like the movies is because they're a little offbeat at times, everything about the characters feels iconic, and while the stories are a bit cookie-cutter and tropey at times, the characters are charming and familiar enough to carry them. None of the characters in this game feel familiar - Bruce Banner looks like a budget Huey Emmerich from Metal Gear Solid, Iron Man and Thor are a bunch of generic-ass action figures with no personality, Black Widow looks terrible... the only character that looks okay is Ms. Marvel, presumably because there's no on-screen version of her yet and her design doesn't feel like an absence of something else. It wouldn't surprise me if this game showed up on What Happened in a couple of months with the info that the game was meant to feature the likenesses of the movie cast. And the dialogue shown so far sounds generic and trite. So there's a plot that - while probably passable on its own - hinges on a story detail that promotional screenshots of the game are spoiling, and subsequently can be worked backwards to a bunch of cliche faff, and characters who look bland as shit and who rattle off some of the most brain-dead, trite dialogue in promotional materials for the game. Literally the only thing I want to see in this game is MODOK, and I severely doubt his appearance alone justifies spending the rest of the game with a bunch of generic play-doh recreations of the Avengers. And again - there have been Marvel games recently that have paid tribute to these characters and done them well enough. This game just looks tedious from the get-go, like it's not worth the effort. The only way I can explain how off-putting I find the designs is if they were planning to use the movie cast for ages, but then the contract ran out and they had to whip up some basic generic approximations of the characters. Spider-Man is its own thing. Ultimate Alliance is its own thing. Even the LEGO games are their own thing. This feels incomplete, like it's chasing something, and I can't pin down its audience. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 08/12/20 2:20:10 PM #102:	MrMallard posted... The thing is, this doesn't feel like a necessary game. You've got Ultimate Alliance 3, PS4 Spider-Man and the LEGO games. They all pay lip service to the big hitters at Marvel, and they also engage in silly little homages to obscure scraps of Marvel history. Then you have a big, AAA game based on the popular movie Avengers... where the characters look very generic and un-like themselves, engaging in rubbish blockbuster cliches. Like what's the point of seeing a pointless, shitty conflict and team dissolution plot where a plucky young upstart has to get the band back together to save the world when it's obvious that ~~Captain America is going to turn up at some point in the game and lead the Avengers to victory over MODOK or whatever bad guy they picked~~? They're not even hiding it in the promotional material, he's right there in the OP. Like, the reason people like the movies is because they're a little offbeat at times, everything about the characters feels iconic, and while the stories are a bit cookie-cutter and tropey at times, the characters are charming and familiar enough to carry them. None of the characters in this game feel familiar - Bruce Banner looks like a budget Huey Emmerich from Metal Gear Solid, Iron Man and Thor are a bunch of generic-ass action figures with no personality, Black Widow looks terrible... the only character that looks okay is Ms. Marvel, presumably because there's no on-screen version of her yet and her design doesn't feel like an absence of something else. It wouldn't surprise me if this game showed up on What Happened in a couple of months with the info that the game was meant to feature the likenesses of the movie cast. And the dialogue shown so far sounds generic and trite. So there's a plot that - while probably passable on its own - hinges on a story detail that promotional screenshots of the game are spoiling, and subsequently can be worked backwards to a bunch of cliche faff, and characters who look bland as shit and who rattle off some of the most brain-dead, trite dialogue in promotional materials for the game. Literally the only thing I want to see in this game is MODOK, and I severely doubt his appearance alone justifies spending the rest of the game with a bunch of generic play-doh recreations of the Avengers. And again - there have been Marvel games recently that have paid tribute to these characters and done them well enough. This game just looks tedious from the get-go, like it's not worth the effort. The only way I can explain how off-putting I find the designs is if they were planning to use the movie cast for ages, but then the contract ran out and they had to whip up some basic generic approximations of the characters. What? A game needs to be 'necessary'? No game is necessary. All the Avengers stories(minus Infinity War) are totally obvious. The game exists in it's own space, all it shares is similar designs to the movie, and only really Mark Ruffalo's Bruce Banner. The rest are similar enough to their comic book counterparts. Like...seriously, if not for Bruce Banner, they'd be the same as the comic book Avengers visually. Imo, it fills a very important place for Marvel games: a multiplayer action game. Call MUA what you want, but it's no different from Diablo. And it isn't better than MUA1, more similar to 2, just a bit better. With a really, really odd system to unlock all the DLC characters that I'm not a fan of. Plus it's Switch exclusive. --- livingdeadrpg.proboards.com "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:943298444] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>MrMallard posted...</cite> <quote>The thing is, this doesn't feel like a necessary game. You've got Ultimate Alliance 3, PS4 Spider-Man and the LEGO games. They all pay lip service to the big hitters at Marvel, and they also engage in silly little homages to obscure scraps of Marvel history. Then you have a big, AAA game based on the popular movie Avengers... where the characters look very generic and un-like themselves, engaging in rubbish blockbuster cliches. Like what's the point of seeing a pointless, shitty conflict and team dissolution plot where a plucky young upstart has to get the band back together to save the world when it's obvious that Captain America is going to turn up at some point in the game and lead the Avengers to victory over MODOK or whatever bad guy they picked? They're not even hiding it in the promotional material, he's right there in the OP. Like, the reason people like the movies is because they're a little offbeat at times, everything about the characters feels iconic, and while the stories are a bit cookie-cutter and tropey at times, the characters are charming and familiar enough to carry them. None of the characters in this game feel familiar - Bruce Banner looks like a budget Huey Emmerich from Metal Gear Solid, Iron Man and Thor are a bunch of generic-ass action figures with no personality, Black Widow looks terrible... the only character that looks okay is Ms. Marvel, presumably because there's no on-screen version of her yet and her design doesn't feel like an absence of something else. It wouldn't surprise me if this game showed up on What Happened in a couple of months with the info that the game was meant to feature the likenesses of the movie cast. And the dialogue shown so far sounds generic and trite. So there's a plot that - while probably passable on its own - hinges on a story detail that promotional screenshots of the game are spoiling, and subsequently can be worked backwards to a bunch of cliche faff, and characters who look bland as shit and who rattle off some of the most brain-dead, trite dialogue in promotional materials for the game. Literally the only thing I want to see in this game is MODOK, and I severely doubt his appearance alone justifies spending the rest of the game with a bunch of generic play-doh recreations of the Avengers. And again - there have been Marvel games recently that have paid tribute to these characters and done them well enough. This game just looks tedious from the get-go, like it's not worth the effort. The only way I can explain how off-putting I find the designs is if they were planning to use the movie cast for ages, but then the contract ran out and they had to whip up some basic generic approximations of the characters. </quote> What? A game needs to be 'necessary'? No game is necessary. All the Avengers stories(minus Infinity War) are totally obvious. The game exists in it's own space, all it shares is similar designs to the movie, and only really Mark Ruffalo's Bruce Banner. The rest are similar enough to their comic book counterparts. Like...seriously, if not for Bruce Banner, they'd be the same as the comic book Avengers visually. Imo, it fills a very important place for Marvel games: a multiplayer action game. Call MUA what you want, but it's no different from Diablo. And it isn't better than MUA1, more similar to 2, just a bit better. With a really, really odd system to unlock all the DLC characters that I'm not a fan of. Plus it's Switch exclusive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heavy_D_Forever 08/12/20 2:21:52 PM #103:	Slayer_22 posted... It does. And said AI are based on your own builds. So if you have, say, a Cap that has a support tree(idk if this is a thing), he'll have that. They'll also have whatever gear and costumes you equip on them. So basically, like playing with yourself lol. Edit: and the SP is entirely the same way. Thank you, that actually sounds appealing to me and got my interest back up haha --- E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES <cite>Heavy_D_Forever posted [p:943298505] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>It does. And said AI are based on your own builds. So if you have, say, a Cap that has a support tree(idk if this is a thing), he'll have that. They'll also have whatever gear and costumes you equip on them. So basically, like playing with yourself lol. Edit: and the SP is entirely the same way.</quote>Thank you, that actually sounds appealing to me and got my interest back up haha </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 08/12/20 2:22:53 PM #104:	Heavy_D_Forever posted... Thank you, that actually sounds appealing to me and got my interest back up haha do note that if you intend to get it on PC or Xbox the devs don't give a shit about you and you'll be paying the same price for noticeably less content and if you intend to get it on PS4 you're supporting this bullshit tl;dr just don't get it <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:943298551] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>Heavy_D_Forever posted... </cite> <quote>Thank you, that actually sounds appealing to me and got my interest back up haha</quote>do note that if you intend to get it on PC or Xbox the devs don't give a shit about you and you'll be paying the same price for noticeably less content and if you intend to get it on PS4 you're supporting this bullshit tl;dr just don't get it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BakonBitz 08/12/20 2:24:02 PM #105:	DarthAragorn posted... do note that if you intend to get it on PC or Xbox the devs don't give a shit about you and you'll be paying the same price for noticeably less content and if you intend to get it on PS4 you're supporting this bullshit tl;dr just don't get it I want to try it out but I don't have an Xbox or powerful enough PC, so... --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:943298612] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote> do note that if you intend to get it on PC or Xbox the devs don't give a shit about you and you'll be paying the same price for noticeably less content and if you intend to get it on PS4 you're supporting this bullshit tl;dr just don't get it </quote> I want to try it out but I don't have an Xbox or powerful enough PC, so...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 08/12/20 2:27:13 PM #106:	PS4 gets a free costume with every release and earlier content releases, as well as Spider-Man(no other console is getting Spidey, at least not atm, I assume it's not timed exclusive). And it is NOT the developers choice for any of this. They've made it pretty clear these decisions were all Marvel and Sony on every interview theu can. Blame those assholes, not the developers. --- livingdeadrpg.proboards.com "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:943298732] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>PS4 gets a free costume with every release and earlier content releases, as well as Spider-Man(no other console is getting Spidey, at least not atm, I assume it's not timed exclusive). And it is NOT the developers choice for any of this. They've made it pretty clear these decisions were all Marvel and Sony on every interview theu can. Blame those assholes, not the developers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 08/12/20 2:29:48 PM #107:	Regardless of who chose it (which, be real, Marvel, Sony and Square Enix all agreed to it otherwise it wouldn't happen), you shouldn't support it <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:943298818] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>Regardless of who chose it (which, be real, Marvel, Sony and Square Enix all agreed to it otherwise it wouldn't happen), you shouldn't support it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 08/12/20 2:32:39 PM #108:	DarthAragorn posted... Regardless of who chose it (which, be real, Marvel, Sony and Square Enix all agreed to it otherwise it wouldn't happen), you shouldn't support it I'm guessing you don't buy any exclusive games or consoles, then? Because it's gonna happen anyway lol. Expect it for the next few years. Sony recently went around offering boatloads of cash for exclusives on third party games. So...get ready to not buy tons of games. --- livingdeadrpg.proboards.com "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:943298918] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote>Regardless of who chose it (which, be real, Marvel, Sony and Square Enix all agreed to it otherwise it wouldn't happen), you shouldn't support it </quote> I'm guessing you don't buy any exclusive games or consoles, then? Because it's gonna happen anyway lol. Expect it for the next few years. Sony recently went around offering boatloads of cash for exclusives on third party games. So...get ready to not buy tons of games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IloveJesus 08/12/20 2:32:46 PM #109:	MrMallard posted... there have been Marvel games recently that have paid tribute to these characters and done them well enough. I disagree. This game is much closer to what I want to see. DarthAragorn posted... do note that if you intend to get it on PC or Xbox the devs don't give a shit about you and you'll be paying the same price for noticeably less content and if you intend to get it on PS4 you're supporting this bullshit tl;dr just don't get it This is not a new practice and there's really nothing wrong with it. --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. <cite>IloveJesus posted [p:943298925] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>MrMallard posted... </cite> <quote>there have been Marvel games recently that have paid tribute to these characters and done them well enough.</quote> I disagree. This game is much closer to what I want to see. DarthAragorn posted... </cite> <quote>do note that if you intend to get it on PC or Xbox the devs don't give a shit about you and you'll be paying the same price for noticeably less content and if you intend to get it on PS4 you're supporting this bullshit tl;dr just don't get it</quote>This is not a new practice and there's really nothing wrong with it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 08/12/20 2:33:46 PM #110:	Slayer_22 posted... I'm guessing you don't buy any exclusive games or consoles, then? Because it's gonna happen anyway lol. Expect it for the next few years. Sony recently went around offering boatloads of cash for exclusives on third party games. So...get ready to not buy tons of games. This is not at all the same as legitimate first party exclusive titles though And you're right, I won't be buying moneyhatted third party games! They can all get fucked. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:943298961] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm guessing you don't buy any exclusive games or consoles, then? Because it's gonna happen anyway lol. Expect it for the next few years. Sony recently went around offering boatloads of cash for exclusives on third party games. So...get ready to not buy tons of games.</quote>This is not at all the same as legitimate first party exclusive titles though And you're right, I won't be buying moneyhatted third party games! They can all get fucked. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IloveJesus 08/12/20 2:34:08 PM #111:	DarthAragorn posted... Regardless of who chose it (which, be real, Marvel, Sony and Square Enix all agreed to it otherwise it wouldn't happen), you shouldn't support it Who the fuck are you to tell people what they should and shouldn't support? Fuck you and the high horse you rode in on. If you don't like it, fine, you don't have to buy it. But telling other people that they shouldn't because you don't like it? Fuck off. --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. <cite>IloveJesus posted [p:943298967] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted... </cite> <quote>Regardless of who chose it (which, be real, Marvel, Sony and Square Enix all agreed to it otherwise it wouldn't happen), you shouldn't support it</quote> Who the fuck are you to tell people what they should and shouldn't support? Fuck you and the high horse you rode in on. If you don't like it, fine, you don't have to buy it. But telling other people that they shouldn't because you don't like it? Fuck off. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMallard 08/12/20 2:34:42 PM #112:	Slayer_22 posted... What? A game needs to be 'necessary'? No game is necessary. All the Avengers stories(minus Infinity War) are totally obvious. The game exists in it's own space, all it shares is similar designs to the movie, and only really Mark Ruffalo's Bruce Banner. The rest are similar enough to their comic book counterparts. Like...seriously, if not for Bruce Banner, they'd be the same as the comic book Avengers visually. Imo, it fills a very important place for Marvel games: a multiplayer action game. Call MUA what you want, but it's no different from Diablo. And it isn't better than MUA1, more similar to 2, just a bit better. With a really, really odd system to unlock all the DLC characters that I'm not a fan of. Plus it's Switch exclusive. I guess what I'm trying to say is that those games feel like they exist for a reason, while this newest Avengers game feels like it's sprung out of the ether and trying to sell me something I don't want or need. Ultimate Alliance 3 looks charming and stylised, and I'm interested in the experience it offers. The LEGO games, while not as good as they used to be, are like comfortable background noise that fill a gap. Spider-Man looks like a robust, fully-featured product that sells the experience of being Spider-Man. The Avengers just doesn't feel like that to me. In comparison, it almost feels forced. --- Are you proud to be a Mayonnaise American? <cite>MrMallard posted [p:943298986] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>What? A game needs to be 'necessary'? No game is necessary. All the Avengers stories(minus Infinity War) are totally obvious. The game exists in it's own space, all it shares is similar designs to the movie, and only really Mark Ruffalo's Bruce Banner. The rest are similar enough to their comic book counterparts. Like...seriously, if not for Bruce Banner, they'd be the same as the comic book Avengers visually. Imo, it fills a very important place for Marvel games: a multiplayer action game. Call MUA what you want, but it's no different from Diablo. And it isn't better than MUA1, more similar to 2, just a bit better. With a really, really odd system to unlock all the DLC characters that I'm not a fan of. Plus it's Switch exclusive.</quote> I guess what I'm trying to say is that those games feel like they exist for a reason, while this newest Avengers game feels like it's sprung out of the ether and trying to sell me something I don't want or need. Ultimate Alliance 3 looks charming and stylised, and I'm interested in the experience it offers. The LEGO games, while not as good as they used to be, are like comfortable background noise that fill a gap. Spider-Man looks like a robust, fully-featured product that sells the experience of being Spider-Man. The Avengers just doesn't feel like that to me. In comparison, it almost feels forced. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BakonBitz 08/12/20 2:39:27 PM #113:	MrMallard posted... The Avengers just doesn't feel like that to me. In comparison, it almost feels forced. In essence, the kind of game this Avengers is kinda makes sense. That's probably why it's being made, as a multiplayer Avengers with new content/heroes being continually added kinda fits. Also probably riding off the MCU hype since it was being developed during MCU's peak. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:943299179] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>MrMallard posted...</cite> <quote>The Avengers just doesn't feel like that to me. In comparison, it almost feels forced.</quote> In essence, the kind of game this Avengers is kinda makes sense. That's probably why it's being made, as a multiplayer Avengers with new content/heroes being continually added kinda fits. Also probably riding off the MCU hype since it was being developed during MCU's peak.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 08/12/20 2:41:23 PM #114:	MrMallard posted... I guess what I'm trying to say is that those games feel like they exist for a reason, while this newest Avengers game feels like it's sprung out of the ether and trying to sell me something I don't want or need. Ultimate Alliance 3 looks charming and stylised, and I'm interested in the experience it offers. The LEGO games, while not as good as they used to be, are like comfortable background noise that fill a gap. Spider-Man looks like a robust, fully-featured product that sells the experience of being Spider-Man. The Avengers just doesn't feel like that to me. In comparison, it almost feels forced. What reason did the lego games exist for? And MUA3(other than to cash in on the recent love for Marvel and Thanos)? Because your idea for it is very bare. MUA3 is stylized, sure, but graphics mean very little when the game doesn't exude it's own personality and exists as a sequel(yet doesn't even match up to previous games). The LEGO games have been kinda...formulaic. Comfortable noise? Lmao, what? Not to mention...came out 3 whole years ago. Spidey, yeah, it's fantastic and no argument there. Why does it feel forced? Has it's own storyline, it's own lore, a very deliberate gameplay loop and style. It feels like it has a voice, one that wants to be heard. It feels far more unique than the lego games, which are forumulaic as I said, and waaaayyyy more so than the MUA games, which are mindless fun but missing all the love and care of MUA1. --- livingdeadrpg.proboards.com "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:943299248] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>MrMallard posted...</cite> <quote> I guess what I'm trying to say is that those games feel like they exist for a reason, while this newest Avengers game feels like it's sprung out of the ether and trying to sell me something I don't want or need. Ultimate Alliance 3 looks charming and stylised, and I'm interested in the experience it offers. The LEGO games, while not as good as they used to be, are like comfortable background noise that fill a gap. Spider-Man looks like a robust, fully-featured product that sells the experience of being Spider-Man. The Avengers just doesn't feel like that to me. In comparison, it almost feels forced. </quote> What reason did the lego games exist for? And MUA3(other than to cash in on the recent love for Marvel and Thanos)? Because your idea for it is very bare. MUA3 is stylized, sure, but graphics mean very little when the game doesn't exude it's own personality and exists as a sequel(yet doesn't even match up to previous games). The LEGO games have been kinda...formulaic. Comfortable noise? Lmao, what? Not to mention...came out 3 whole years ago. Spidey, yeah, it's fantastic and no argument there. Why does it feel forced? Has it's own storyline, it's own lore, a very deliberate gameplay loop and style. It feels like it has a voice, one that wants to be heard. It feels far more unique than the lego games, which are forumulaic as I said, and waaaayyyy more so than the MUA games, which are mindless fun but missing all the love and care of MUA1.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
2SweetforTurtle 08/12/20 2:41:31 PM #115:	Having played last weekend Im personally looking forward to the game, but Ive gotta say a lot of the base designs for the characters in the game look really bad. I dont care at all of the Verizon skins or whatever because theyre just recolors of the base skins which I hate. The other skins in the game are MUCH better but I guess thats the point, you make bad skins so that people are encouraged to play more to unlock better ones or pay for them lol. The combat is really fun once you start experimenting with your abilities and how to chain things together like in that Iron Man video, however Im still not entirely sold on the gear concept. For those of you who are interested but still have worries about the gameplay being shallow (which it isnt), the open beta is this weekend on PS4, and next weekend on PC/XBone. Try that out. It starts with the Golden Gate sequence from the trailers thats very tutorial-y and on rails, but then branches off into a few story missions (as Hulk and Ms Marvel) that are a little more open. After about an hour and a half or so itll open up to allow you to play various mission types (HARM training, Warzones, and Dropzones) where you can play as Iron Man, Hulk, Black Widow and Ms Marvel. Those extra mission types will give you a taste of the leveling system which allows you to unlock skills that add moves, alternate weapons, and combos to your characters, the gear system (which is what most previewers arent sold on so far, and neither am I) and co-op / AI teammates. Keep in mind, matchmaking was pretty bad last weekend (which is the point of a beta) so you may want to find a friend to try it out with or just use AI if you struggle to find a match. I recommend giving the game a chance. Complaining about characters having shit costumes is a non issue because of the sheer amount of skins in the game, youre bound to find something you like. As for the combat, you wont know if youll like it until you give it a shot. Most preview videos have potato caliber players so they have no clue how to mix things up and make it look cool. --- Slow and steady wins the race <cite>2SweetforTurtle posted [p:943299251] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>Having played last weekend Im personally looking forward to the game, but Ive gotta say a lot of the base designs for the characters in the game look really bad. I dont care at all of the Verizon skins or whatever because theyre just recolors of the base skins which I hate. The other skins in the game are MUCH better but I guess thats the point, you make bad skins so that people are encouraged to play more to unlock better ones or pay for them lol. The combat is really fun once you start experimenting with your abilities and how to chain things together like in that Iron Man video, however Im still not entirely sold on the gear concept. For those of you who are interested but still have worries about the gameplay being shallow (which it isnt), the open beta is this weekend on PS4, and next weekend on PC/XBone. Try that out. It starts with the Golden Gate sequence from the trailers thats very tutorial-y and on rails, but then branches off into a few story missions (as Hulk and Ms Marvel) that are a little more open. After about an hour and a half or so itll open up to allow you to play various mission types (HARM training, Warzones, and Dropzones) where you can play as Iron Man, Hulk, Black Widow and Ms Marvel. Those extra mission types will give you a taste of the leveling system which allows you to unlock skills that add moves, alternate weapons, and combos to your characters, the gear system (which is what most previewers arent sold on so far, and neither am I) and co-op / AI teammates. Keep in mind, matchmaking was pretty bad last weekend (which is the point of a beta) so you may want to find a friend to try it out with or just use AI if you struggle to find a match. I recommend giving the game a chance. Complaining about characters having shit costumes is a non issue because of the sheer amount of skins in the game, youre bound to find something you like. As for the combat, you wont know if youll like it until you give it a shot. Most preview videos have potato caliber players so they have no clue how to mix things up and make it look cool. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 08/12/20 2:46:20 PM #116:	2SweetforTurtle posted... Having played last weekend Im personally looking forward to the game, but Ive gotta say a lot of the base designs for the characters in the game look really bad. I wouldn't say bad, but boring 100%. Hulk's timeskip beard alt is cool, Kamala's is boring af(she doesn't even have her usual suit! Wtf?), Iron Man's is...basic. Black Widow's is also basic. Thor's is basic, but I like it a bit. Cap...eh, I'm glad I pre-ordered as the WW2 alt is what I'm hyped for. There are a few skins I am looking forward to, though. Iron Man's makeshift armor(we see it in the beta, it's him with a crappy outfit that looks like he made it in ten minutes in a dumpster), Thor's basic T-shirt and jeans look...idk why, I like it though, and Kamala's regular super suit. I will agree though. They could've done more interesting skins starting out. But I get why they didn't. People will pay for better costumes. --- livingdeadrpg.proboards.com "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:943299434] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>2SweetforTurtle posted...</cite> <quote>Having played last weekend Im personally looking forward to the game, but Ive gotta say a lot of the base designs for the characters in the game look really bad. </quote> I wouldn't say bad, but boring 100%. Hulk's timeskip beard alt is cool, Kamala's is boring af(she doesn't even have her usual suit! Wtf?), Iron Man's is...basic. Black Widow's is also basic. Thor's is basic, but I like it a bit. Cap...eh, I'm glad I pre-ordered as the WW2 alt is what I'm hyped for. There are a few skins I am looking forward to, though. Iron Man's makeshift armor(we see it in the beta, it's him with a crappy outfit that looks like he made it in ten minutes in a dumpster), Thor's basic T-shirt and jeans look...idk why, I like it though, and Kamala's regular super suit. I will agree though. They could've done more interesting skins starting out. But I get why they didn't. People will pay for better costumes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
2SweetforTurtle 08/12/20 3:04:48 PM #117:	Slayer_22 posted... I wouldn't say bad, but boring 100%. Hulk's timeskip beard alt is cool, Kamala's is boring af(she doesn't even have her usual suit! Wtf?), Iron Man's is...basic. Black Widow's is also basic. Thor's is basic, but I like it a bit. Cap...eh, I'm glad I pre-ordered as the WW2 alt is what I'm hyped for. There are a few skins I am looking forward to, though. Iron Man's makeshift armor(we see it in the beta, it's him with a crappy outfit that looks like he made it in ten minutes in a dumpster), Thor's basic T-shirt and jeans look...idk why, I like it though, and Kamala's regular super suit. I will agree though. They could've done more interesting skins starting out. But I get why they didn't. People will pay for better costumes. I think Kamalas real costume in the game looks great. Her lack of a costume in the beta is just because we dont have access to her heroic chain which gives her her real costume. I actually kinda like Thors look. Black Widow just looks like Black Widow. Iron Mans suit looks fine, although I hate Tony Starks face (and for the love of GOD I have no clue why they went with Nolan North). Hulk just looks like a Hulk. The Stark tech suits that they keep advertising look bad too. Hulk has these like infinity glove things and BW has this weird space tech goggles that look pretty silly imo. Either way, Cap is the real problem. I get why they went with a realistic SWAT gear set up, but it still just looks wrong and poorly executed at that. Blue stripes instead of red? Really? Plus it completely hides his physique too. I just think that if your logic is that SHIELD superspies BW and Hawkeye arent wearing traditional body armor, neither should Cap considering hes far less human than them so if they can go without it and survive, so should he. Again, all of that gets mitigated once you unlock better skins. I cant wait for the WW2 skin for Cap and there was one costume that they already revealed a few months back for Cap that is more traditional. Plus if they (and Im sure they will) have movie skins hes got great outfits in the movie that Id pay real money for. --- Slow and steady wins the race <cite>2SweetforTurtle posted [p:943300142] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>I wouldn't say bad, but boring 100%. Hulk's timeskip beard alt is cool, Kamala's is boring af(she doesn't even have her usual suit! Wtf?), Iron Man's is...basic. Black Widow's is also basic. Thor's is basic, but I like it a bit. Cap...eh, I'm glad I pre-ordered as the WW2 alt is what I'm hyped for. There are a few skins I am looking forward to, though. Iron Man's makeshift armor(we see it in the beta, it's him with a crappy outfit that looks like he made it in ten minutes in a dumpster), Thor's basic T-shirt and jeans look...idk why, I like it though, and Kamala's regular super suit. I will agree though. They could've done more interesting skins starting out. But I get why they didn't. People will pay for better costumes.</quote> I think Kamalas real costume in the game looks great. Her lack of a costume in the beta is just because we dont have access to her heroic chain which gives her her real costume. I actually kinda like Thors look. Black Widow just looks like Black Widow. Iron Mans suit looks fine, although I hate Tony Starks face (and for the love of GOD I have no clue why they went with Nolan North). Hulk just looks like a Hulk. The Stark tech suits that they keep advertising look bad too. Hulk has these like infinity glove things and BW has this weird space tech goggles that look pretty silly imo. Either way, Cap is the real problem. I get why they went with a realistic SWAT gear set up, but it still just looks wrong and poorly executed at that. Blue stripes instead of red? Really? Plus it completely hides his physique too. I just think that if your logic is that SHIELD superspies BW and Hawkeye arent wearing traditional body armor, neither should Cap considering hes far less human than them so if they can go without it and survive, so should he. Again, all of that gets mitigated once you unlock better skins. I cant wait for the WW2 skin for Cap and there was one costume that they already revealed a few months back for Cap that is more traditional. Plus if they (and Im sure they will) have movie skins hes got great outfits in the movie that Id pay real money for. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 08/12/20 3:08:48 PM #118:	Oh my god YES. It will take centuries to get used to Nolan(Deadpool, Rocket) as Tony. I just hear other characters. And he HAS other voices too...why that voice specifically? Bleh. I'll get used to it but...eh. I'm glad I'm not the only one all over Cap's WW2 outfit. It looks fucking amazing. But I haven't seen these Stark Tech suits. Any pics? --- livingdeadrpg.proboards.com "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:943300303] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>Oh my god YES. It will take centuries to get used to Nolan(Deadpool, Rocket) as Tony. I just hear other characters. And he HAS other voices too...why that voice specifically? Bleh. I'll get used to it but...eh. I'm glad I'm not the only one all over Cap's WW2 outfit. It looks fucking amazing. But I haven't seen these Stark Tech suits. Any pics?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
2SweetforTurtle 08/12/20 3:30:17 PM #119:	Slayer_22 posted... Oh my god YES. It will take centuries to get used to Nolan(Deadpool, Rocket) as Tony. I just hear other characters. And he HAS other voices too...why that voice specifically? Bleh. I'll get used to it but...eh. I'm glad I'm not the only one all over Cap's WW2 outfit. It looks fucking amazing. But I haven't seen these Stark Tech suits. Any pics? Yeah whenever I hear Iron Man in this game I hear Nathan Drake, Deadpool, and Rocket. Ignoring the fact that Troy Baker nailed his Bruce Banner voice (at least based off the short bit we saw) I think Troy wouldve been a better Tony. Swap Troy and Nolan and have Nolan do a voice similar to the guy he voiced in TLOU (which doesnt sound at all like the other people he always voices) and it wouldve been perfect imo. --- Slow and steady wins the race <cite>2SweetforTurtle posted [p:943301138] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>Oh my god YES. It will take centuries to get used to Nolan(Deadpool, Rocket) as Tony. I just hear other characters. And he HAS other voices too...why that voice specifically? Bleh. I'll get used to it but...eh. I'm glad I'm not the only one all over Cap's WW2 outfit. It looks fucking amazing. But I haven't seen these Stark Tech suits. Any pics?</quote> Yeah whenever I hear Iron Man in this game I hear Nathan Drake, Deadpool, and Rocket. Ignoring the fact that Troy Baker nailed his Bruce Banner voice (at least based off the short bit we saw) I think Troy wouldve been a better Tony. Swap Troy and Nolan and have Nolan do a voice similar to the guy he voiced in TLOU (which doesnt sound at all like the other people he always voices) and it wouldve been perfect imo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 08/12/20 3:43:33 PM #120:	IloveJesus posted... I've yet to see a single valid criticism of this game. The only valid criticism is the locking of Spider-Man behind PS4 exclusivity. As someone whos been championing this game since its reveal I think thats just a really baffling and obnoxious decision. But as for the game itself? The criticisms have been to the effect of throw literally everything at the wall and see what sticks school of game critique. When the internet decides they dont like a game its a uphill battle the entire way. --- https://imgur.com/Fbusl2a <cite>SwayM posted [p:943301568] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>IloveJesus posted... </cite> <quote>I've yet to see a single valid criticism of this game.</quote> The only valid criticism is the locking of Spider-Man behind PS4 exclusivity. As someone whos been championing this game since its reveal I think thats just a really baffling and obnoxious decision. But as for the game itself? The criticisms have been to the effect of throw literally everything at the wall and see what sticks school of game critique. When the internet decides they dont like a game its a uphill battle the entire way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IloveJesus 08/12/20 3:53:50 PM #121:	SwayM posted... The only valid criticism is the locking of Spider-Man behind PS4 exclusivity. I don't have anything against that. It's not the first game to do something like this and it won't be the last. Exclusive games, modes, content, etc have been a thing in gaming since the dawn of the industry. --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. <cite>IloveJesus posted [p:943301970] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted... </cite> <quote>The only valid criticism is the locking of Spider-Man behind PS4 exclusivity.</quote>I don't have anything against that. It's not the first game to do something like this and it won't be the last. Exclusive games, modes, content, etc have been a thing in gaming since the dawn of the industry. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 08/12/20 4:03:59 PM #122:	IloveJesus posted... I don't have anything against that. It's not the first game to do something like this and it won't be the last. Exclusive games, modes, content, etc have been a thing in gaming since the dawn of the industry. I really dont rub against DLC or micro transactions ever but this crosses a line for me. This isnt irrelevant skins or emotes. This is literally Marvels most popular character. It also raises valid questions of his importance story wise. I have a feeling the games story is kinda set in stone atm. So additional characters wont change a story thats already made. Itll be more maybe story specific missions that come along with that character. But whatever the case I dont like this decision at all. It would be like only Xbox players getting Trevor in GTA V. Like what a major part of youre game youre giving to only one section of Your players. --- https://imgur.com/Fbusl2a <cite>SwayM posted [p:943302367] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>IloveJesus posted... </cite> <quote>I don't have anything against that. It's not the first game to do something like this and it won't be the last. Exclusive games, modes, content, etc have been a thing in gaming since the dawn of the industry.</quote> I really dont rub against DLC or micro transactions ever but this crosses a line for me. This isnt irrelevant skins or emotes. This is literally Marvels most popular character. It also raises valid questions of his importance story wise. I have a feeling the games story is kinda set in stone atm. So additional characters wont change a story thats already made. Itll be more maybe story specific missions that come along with that character. But whatever the case I dont like this decision at all. It would be like only Xbox players getting Trevor in GTA V. Like what a major part of youre game youre giving to only one section of Your players. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
2SweetforTurtle 08/12/20 4:07:15 PM #123:	IloveJesus posted... I don't have anything against that. It's not the first game to do something like this and it won't be the last. Exclusive games, modes, content, etc have been a thing in gaming since the dawn of the industry. Thats how I see it. But the horde thats against this game will use it as an excuse to not buy the game while complaining about how anti-consumer Square Enix is while we see CoD get away with that shit year after year. The GaaS complaint is fair tbh, but I also see it in the same way as the console exclusive hero. GaaS is the new fad that has replaced the Season Pass for most multiplayer games and its not going away for a while. That shouldnt be an excuse to ignore a game that theoretically you should enjoy otherwise (directed at Marvel fans who say this). --- Slow and steady wins the race <cite>2SweetforTurtle posted [p:943302502] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>IloveJesus posted... </cite> <quote>I don't have anything against that. It's not the first game to do something like this and it won't be the last. Exclusive games, modes, content, etc have been a thing in gaming since the dawn of the industry.</quote> Thats how I see it. But the horde thats against this game will use it as an excuse to not buy the game while complaining about how anti-consumer Square Enix is while we see CoD get away with that shit year after year. The GaaS complaint is fair tbh, but I also see it in the same way as the console exclusive hero. GaaS is the new fad that has replaced the Season Pass for most multiplayer games and its not going away for a while. That shouldnt be an excuse to ignore a game that theoretically you should enjoy otherwise (directed at Marvel fans who say this). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
2SweetforTurtle 08/12/20 4:12:57 PM #124:	SwayM posted... I really dont rub against DLC or micro transactions ever but this crosses a line for me. This isnt irrelevant skins or emotes. This is literally Marvels most popular character. It also raises valid questions of his importance story wise. I have a feeling the games story is kinda set in stone atm. So additional characters wont change a story thats already made. Itll be more maybe story specific missions that come along with that character. But whatever the case I dont like this decision at all. It would be like only Xbox players getting Trevor in GTA V. Like what a major part of youre game youre giving to only one section of Your players. Thats not an accurate comparison at all. That comparison would only make sense if before GTAV was released, Trevor had his own smash hit of a game as an exclusive for Xbox, and had been associated with that brand for the past few years. On top of that, it doesnt matter how much you try, you can not expect Spider-mans story / influence on this game to remotely compare to Trevors in GTAV. Spider-man is not a central character to the games plot. Hes DLC thatll get a couple of story missions that still dont affect the games core story of Kamala and the Avengers taking down AIM. Anyway Sony has had a deal with Marvel for movies for decades. Now theyre moving to make Spider-man a Playstation mascot (while obviously not retaining the sole rights to the character). This isnt a surprising move, and people keep acting like Crystal Dynamics is remotely at fault when this is likely something negotiated by Sony and Marvel since Marvel are the people who allowed Square Enix to even touch him. --- Slow and steady wins the race <cite>2SweetforTurtle posted [p:943302718] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted... </cite> <quote>I really dont rub against DLC or micro transactions ever but this crosses a line for me. This isnt irrelevant skins or emotes. This is literally Marvels most popular character. It also raises valid questions of his importance story wise. I have a feeling the games story is kinda set in stone atm. So additional characters wont change a story thats already made. Itll be more maybe story specific missions that come along with that character. But whatever the case I dont like this decision at all. It would be like only Xbox players getting Trevor in GTA V. Like what a major part of youre game youre giving to only one section of Your players.</quote> Thats not an accurate comparison at all. That comparison would only make sense if before GTAV was released, Trevor had his own smash hit of a game as an exclusive for Xbox, and had been associated with that brand for the past few years. On top of that, it doesnt matter how much you try, you can not expect Spider-mans story / influence on this game to remotely compare to Trevors in GTAV. Spider-man is not a central character to the games plot. Hes DLC thatll get a couple of story missions that still dont affect the games core story of Kamala and the Avengers taking down AIM. Anyway Sony has had a deal with Marvel for movies for decades. Now theyre moving to make Spider-man a Playstation mascot (while obviously not retaining the sole rights to the character). This isnt a surprising move, and people keep acting like Crystal Dynamics is remotely at fault when this is likely something negotiated by Sony and Marvel since Marvel are the people who allowed Square Enix to even touch him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 08/12/20 4:14:40 PM #125:	Also the MOST ridiculous thing to me is that the Sony exclusive Spider-Man character in Marvels Avengers has literally zero relation to Sonys Spider-Man for the PS4. Like honestly what the fuck. At least that would have been amazing to see that Spider-Man (which Insomiac fucking nailed) branch out and interact with the avengers. ~~Theres a line in Spider-Man PS4 where he even mentions how the Avengers moved out to the west coast. Marvels Avengers initially takes place in San Francisco. It literally works perfectly.~~ The exclusivity would also be somewhat more justified as well. Still shitty but you could see some logic as to why the decision would be made. --- https://imgur.com/Fbusl2a <cite>SwayM posted [p:943302788] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>Also the MOST ridiculous thing to me is that the Sony exclusive Spider-Man character in Marvels Avengers has literally zero relation to Sonys Spider-Man for the PS4. Like honestly what the fuck. At least that would have been amazing to see that Spider-Man (which Insomiac fucking nailed) branch out and interact with the avengers. Theres a line in Spider-Man PS4 where he even mentions how the Avengers moved out to the west coast. Marvels Avengers initially takes place in San Francisco. It literally works perfectly. The exclusivity would also be somewhat more justified as well. Still shitty but you could see some logic as to why the decision would be made. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BakonBitz 08/12/20 4:15:38 PM #126:	SwayM posted... Also the MOST ridiculous thing to me is that the Sony exclusive Spider-Man character in Marvels Avengers has literally zero relation to Sonys Spider-Man for the PS4. Like honestly what the fuck. At least that would have been amazing to see that Spider-Man (which Insomiac fucking nailed) branch out and interact with the avengers. ~~Theres a line in Spider-Man PS4 where he even mentions how the Avengers moved out to the west coast. Marvels Avengers initially takes place in San Francisco. It literally works perfectly.~~ The exclusivity would also be somewhat more justified as well. Still shitty but you could see some logic as to why the decision would be made. Yeah, that's what really bugs me, honestly. Perfect chance to link up to Insomniac's Spider-Man and they wasted it. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:943302827] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted...</cite> <quote>Also the MOST ridiculous thing to me is that the Sony exclusive Spider-Man character in Marvels Avengers has literally zero relation to Sonys Spider-Man for the PS4. Like honestly what the fuck. At least that would have been amazing to see that Spider-Man (which Insomiac fucking nailed) branch out and interact with the avengers. Theres a line in Spider-Man PS4 where he even mentions how the Avengers moved out to the west coast. Marvels Avengers initially takes place in San Francisco. It literally works perfectly. The exclusivity would also be somewhat more justified as well. Still shitty but you could see some logic as to why the decision would be made. </quote> Yeah, that's what really bugs me, honestly. Perfect chance to link up to Insomniac's Spider-Man and they wasted it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 08/12/20 4:17:11 PM #127:	2SweetforTurtle posted... Thats not an accurate comparison at all. I knew someone would try and attack it. I wish people on the internet spent as much effort seeing the point made by the analogy then trying to pick it apart with a fine tooth comb. --- https://imgur.com/Fbusl2a <cite>SwayM posted [p:943302890] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>2SweetforTurtle posted... </cite> <quote>Thats not an accurate comparison at all.</quote> I knew someone would try and attack it. I wish people on the internet spent as much effort seeing the point made by the analogy then trying to pick it apart with a fine tooth comb. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IloveJesus 08/12/20 4:24:21 PM #128:	SwayM posted... I really dont rub against DLC or micro transactions ever but this crosses a line for me. This isnt irrelevant skins or emotes. Kind of like how you could play as Joker in Arkham Asylum (but only on Playstation) or play as Kratos in Mortal Kombat (but only on Playstation). It wasn't an issue then and it's not an issue now. If you care about playing as Spider-Man that much, you're just as free to buy a playstation as anybody else is. --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. <cite>IloveJesus posted [p:943303166] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted... </cite> <quote>I really dont rub against DLC or micro transactions ever but this crosses a line for me. This isnt irrelevant skins or emotes.</quote> Kind of like how you could play as Joker in Arkham Asylum (but only on Playstation) or play as Kratos in Mortal Kombat (but only on Playstation). It wasn't an issue then and it's not an issue now. If you care about playing as Spider-Man that much, you're just as free to buy a playstation as anybody else is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 08/12/20 4:39:21 PM #129:	IloveJesus posted... Kind of like how you could play as Joker in Arkham Asylum (but only on Playstation) or play as Kratos in Mortal Kombat (but only on Playstation). It wasn't an issue then and it's not an issue now. If you care about playing as Spider-Man that much, you're just as free to buy a playstation as anybody else is. An exclusive character in a fighting game also doesnt bother me in the slightest. As only a casual player of fighting games. Almost all control in roughly the same way. Dont have any meaningful story or interaction with any of the other characters. To a more hardcore fighting game fan. Maybe this matters. To me this isnt anything like a fighting game. The individual characters reflect way more weight respectively. --- https://imgur.com/Fbusl2a <cite>SwayM posted [p:943303823] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>IloveJesus posted... </cite> <quote>Kind of like how you could play as Joker in Arkham Asylum (but only on Playstation) or play as Kratos in Mortal Kombat (but only on Playstation). It wasn't an issue then and it's not an issue now. If you care about playing as Spider-Man that much, you're just as free to buy a playstation as anybody else is.</quote> An exclusive character in a fighting game also doesnt bother me in the slightest. As only a casual player of fighting games. Almost all control in roughly the same way. Dont have any meaningful story or interaction with any of the other characters. To a more hardcore fighting game fan. Maybe this matters. To me this isnt anything like a fighting game. The individual characters reflect way more weight respectively. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/12/20 6:33:18 PM #130:	IloveJesus posted... Kind of like how you could play as Joker in Arkham Asylum (but only on Playstation) or play as Kratos in Mortal Kombat (but only on Playstation). It wasn't an issue then and it's not an issue now. If you care about playing as Spider-Man that much, you're just as free to buy a playstation as anybody else is. Those were issues then and they're still issues now. Nobody is digging out the PS3 to play as The Joker in 2020. So that game was always impacted. It's a lesser game for short term gain for a single platform because of it. Spider-man as a character is absolutely going to be impacted being exclusive to a single platform. It means he can't be integrated to the story as much as the others. Or the more he is the less content there is for everyone. It's also why the game cannot have crossplay when it otherwise could have. It has absolutely made the game worse than it would have otherwise been. Fighting games have basically abandoned platform exclusive fighters these days as well. Probably because they're expensive to develop now. The Avengers roster isn't exactly large to begin with so losing an entire character is a big deal. That's a lot of content for a game like this. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:943308298] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>IloveJesus posted... </cite> <quote>Kind of like how you could play as Joker in Arkham Asylum (but only on Playstation) or play as Kratos in Mortal Kombat (but only on Playstation). It wasn't an issue then and it's not an issue now. If you care about playing as Spider-Man that much, you're just as free to buy a playstation as anybody else is.</quote> Those were issues then and they're still issues now. Nobody is digging out the PS3 to play as The Joker in 2020. So that game was always impacted. It's a lesser game for short term gain for a single platform because of it. Spider-man as a character is absolutely going to be impacted being exclusive to a single platform. It means he can't be integrated to the story as much as the others. Or the more he is the less content there is for everyone. It's also why the game cannot have crossplay when it otherwise could have. It has absolutely made the game worse than it would have otherwise been. Fighting games have basically abandoned platform exclusive fighters these days as well. Probably because they're expensive to develop now. The Avengers roster isn't exactly large to begin with so losing an entire character is a big deal. That's a lot of content for a game like this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 08/12/20 7:27:31 PM #131:	Darmik posted... Those were issues then and they're still issues now. Nobody is digging out the PS3 to play as The Joker in 2020. So that game was always impacted. It's a lesser game for short term gain for a single platform because of it. Spider-man as a character is absolutely going to be impacted being exclusive to a single platform. It means he can't be integrated to the story as much as the others. Or the more he is the less content there is for everyone. It's also why the game cannot have crossplay when it otherwise could have. It has absolutely made the game worse than it would have otherwise been. Fighting games have basically abandoned platform exclusive fighters these days as well. Probably because they're expensive to develop now. The Avengers roster isn't exactly large to begin with so losing an entire character is a big deal. That's a lot of content for a game like this. I bought the Arkham remaster on PS4 specifically to experience Joker. >_> --- livingdeadrpg.proboards.com "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:943310277] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> Those were issues then and they're still issues now. Nobody is digging out the PS3 to play as The Joker in 2020. So that game was always impacted. It's a lesser game for short term gain for a single platform because of it. Spider-man as a character is absolutely going to be impacted being exclusive to a single platform. It means he can't be integrated to the story as much as the others. Or the more he is the less content there is for everyone. It's also why the game cannot have crossplay when it otherwise could have. It has absolutely made the game worse than it would have otherwise been. Fighting games have basically abandoned platform exclusive fighters these days as well. Probably because they're expensive to develop now. The Avengers roster isn't exactly large to begin with so losing an entire character is a big deal. That's a lot of content for a game like this. </quote> I bought the Arkham remaster on PS4 specifically to experience Joker. >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IloveJesus 08/13/20 1:49:17 AM #132:	Darmik posted... Nobody is digging out the PS3 to play as The Joker in 2020. So that game was always impacted. It really isn't though, because those that played it on another platform, including myself, still got what they paid for, which was an excellent game. Darmik posted... Spider-man as a character is absolutely going to be impacted being exclusive to a single platform. For all we know, it was this or nothing for Spiderman. Yeah, he probably won't have a big hand in the story but who says he was ever meant to? --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. <cite>IloveJesus posted [p:943321353] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>Nobody is digging out the PS3 to play as The Joker in 2020. So that game was always impacted.</quote> It really isn't though, because those that played it on another platform, including myself, still got what they paid for, which was an excellent game. Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>Spider-man as a character is absolutely going to be impacted being exclusive to a single platform.</quote> For all we know, it was this or nothing for Spiderman. Yeah, he probably won't have a big hand in the story but who says he was ever meant to? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/13/20 2:05:16 AM #133:	IloveJesus posted... It really isn't though, because those that played it on another platform, including myself, still got what they paid for, which was an excellent game. They paid the same price at the same time for less content. IloveJesus posted... For all we know, it was this or nothing for Spiderman. Yeah, he probably won't have a big hand in the story but who says he was ever meant to? Then they could have went with another character that could be developed for everyone. But it's pretty obvious this exists because Sony want to give the perception that they have ownership of the character outside of movies and they love paying for exclusive content for third party games whenever they can. You also completely ignored the rest of my points. This is an online game that encourages you to build up your team of heroes. The game launches with 6 heroes. One hero is a lot of content for a game like this. Even without unique story content for them. Nobody wins here. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:943321603] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>IloveJesus posted... </cite> <quote>It really isn't though, because those that played it on another platform, including myself, still got what they paid for, which was an excellent game.</quote> They paid the same price at the same time for less content. IloveJesus posted... </cite> <quote>For all we know, it was this or nothing for Spiderman. Yeah, he probably won't have a big hand in the story but who says he was ever meant to?</quote> Then they could have went with another character that could be developed for everyone. But it's pretty obvious this exists because Sony want to give the perception that they have ownership of the character outside of movies and they love paying for exclusive content for third party games whenever they can. You also completely ignored the rest of my points. This is an online game that encourages you to build up your team of heroes. The game launches with 6 heroes. One hero is a lot of content for a game like this. Even without unique story content for them. Nobody wins here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 08/13/20 2:05:23 AM #134:	There's no chance they wouldn't have been able to use Spider-Man. That's bullshit and you know it. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:943321605] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>There's no chance they wouldn't have been able to use Spider-Man. That's bullshit and you know it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/13/20 2:07:51 AM #135:	There's only two potential explanations for it. When Sony and Disney negotiated the MCU deal last year they gave Sony complete video game rights for Spider-man for some reason. That would mean Spider-man will no longer be able to be used in any Marvel game unless given approval by Sony. Sony told Crystal Dynamics that they want Spider-man as an exclusive hero and they had the rights to do this due to paying Square-Enix money. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:943321642] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>There's only two potential explanations for it. When Sony and Disney negotiated the MCU deal last year they gave Sony complete video game rights for Spider-man for some reason. That would mean Spider-man will no longer be able to be used in any Marvel game unless given approval by Sony. Sony told Crystal Dynamics that they want Spider-man as an exclusive hero and they had the rights to do this due to paying Square-Enix money. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Northlane 08/13/20 2:17:28 AM #136:	The game doesn't look fun to me so I couldn't care less I won't be buying it --- An NFL Haiku Bosa dreams broken. Like records set by Mahomes. Gruden is a bust. <cite>Northlane posted [p:943321783] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>The game doesn't look fun to me so I couldn't care less I won't be buying it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 08/13/20 3:11:15 AM #137:	SwayM posted... This is a really weird take since the GAAS model ensures it will have life and content in it for years Maybe it's just the GAAS games I've played, but they all seem to be exactly the kind of soulless games that get boring after a few hours. Slayer_22 posted... And it is NOT the developers choice for any of this. They've made it pretty clear these decisions were all Marvel and Sony on every interview theu can. Blame those assholes, not the developers. They could have refused to make the game, and made their own game. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:943322563] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted... </cite> <quote>This is a really weird take since the GAAS model ensures it will have life and content in it for years</quote> Maybe it's just the GAAS games I've played, but they all seem to be exactly the kind of soulless games that get boring after a few hours. Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>And it is NOT the developers choice for any of this. They've made it pretty clear these decisions were all Marvel and Sony on every interview theu can. Blame those assholes, not the developers.</quote> They could have refused to make the game, and made their own game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BakonBitz 08/13/20 3:15:01 AM #138:	Darmik posted... There's only two potential explanations for it. 1. When Sony and Disney negotiated the MCU deal last year they gave Sony complete video game rights for Spider-man for some reason. That would mean Spider-man will no longer be able to be used in any Marvel game unless given approval by Sony. 2. Sony told Crystal Dynamics that they want Spider-man as an exclusive hero and they had the rights to do this due to paying Square-Enix money. 2nd option seems more likely since Spidey appeared in Ultimate Alliance 3. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:943322611] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>There's only two potential explanations for it. 1. When Sony and Disney negotiated the MCU deal last year they gave Sony complete video game rights for Spider-man for some reason. That would mean Spider-man will no longer be able to be used in any Marvel game unless given approval by Sony. 2. Sony told Crystal Dynamics that they want Spider-man as an exclusive hero and they had the rights to do this due to paying Square-Enix money. </quote> 2nd option seems more likely since Spidey appeared in Ultimate Alliance 3.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 08/13/20 3:36:14 AM #139:	JE19426 posted... Maybe it's just the GAAS games I've played, but they all seem to be exactly the kind of soulless games that get boring after a few hours. They could have refused to make the game, and made their own game. Lol. What, the individual devs should all give up their jobs and quit because of this? It would've still been made, by others. What a joke. --- livingdeadrpg.proboards.com "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:943322918] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote> Maybe it's just the GAAS games I've played, but they all seem to be exactly the kind of soulless games that get boring after a few hours. They could have refused to make the game, and made their own game. </quote> Lol. What, the individual devs should all give up their jobs and quit because of this? It would've still been made, by others. What a joke.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Catgirl Fondler 08/13/20 3:58:49 AM #140:	Eh, I wasn't really interested in it to begin with, and after this topic, I'm definitely giving it a pass. --- N/A <cite>The Catgirl Fondler posted [p:943323186] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>Eh, I wasn't really interested in it to begin with, and after this topic, I'm definitely giving it a pass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 08/13/20 4:03:57 AM #141:	The Catgirl Fondler posted... Eh, I wasn't really interested in it to begin with, and after this topic, I'm definitely giving it a pass. Well, if you have a PS4, there's an open beta this Friday. At least give it a shot, the game is fun at first but gets really good when you get to higher levels. Open beta for X1 and PC next week on Friday. Both are entirely free. You may enjoy it, may not. Either way, all you lose out on is time. --- livingdeadrpg.proboards.com "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:943323252] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>The Catgirl Fondler posted...</cite> <quote>Eh, I wasn't really interested in it to begin with, and after this topic, I'm definitely giving it a pass.</quote> Well, if you have a PS4, there's an open beta this Friday. At least give it a shot, the game is fun at first but gets really good when you get to higher levels. Open beta for X1 and PC next week on Friday. Both are entirely free. You may enjoy it, may not. Either way, all you lose out on is time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 08/13/20 4:16:01 AM #142:	Slayer_22 posted... Lol. What, the individual devs should all give up their jobs and quit because of this? It would've still been made, by others. What a joke. No, the company should have just made a different game. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:943323403] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>Lol. What, the individual devs should all give up their jobs and quit because of this? It would've still been made, by others. What a joke.</quote> No, the company should have just made a different game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 08/13/20 4:37:19 AM #143:	JE19426 posted... No, the company should have just made a different game. It's not like they pick what game they work on lol. --- livingdeadrpg.proboards.com "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:943323644] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote> No, the company should have just made a different game. </quote> It's not like they pick what game they work on lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayerblade11 08/13/20 4:39:30 AM #144:	Who was the guy who thought that making fucking Spider-man a version exclusive was a good idea <cite>Slayerblade11 posted [p:943323682] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>Who was the guy who thought that making fucking Spider-man a version exclusive was a good idea </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 08/13/20 5:04:45 AM #145:	Slayer_22 posted... It's not like they pick what game they work on lol. Oh, how so? <cite>JE19426 posted [p:943323994] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>It's not like they pick what game they work on lol.</quote> Oh, how so? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IloveJesus 08/13/20 5:11:19 AM #146:	Darmik posted... They paid the same price at the same time for less content. And if they aren't happy with that offer they don't have to buy into it. Consumers have a choice, both in terms of buying consoles and buying games. Darmik posted... You also completely ignored the rest of my points. This is an online game that encourages you to build up your team of heroes. The game launches with 6 heroes. One hero is a lot of content for a game like this. You say I ignored your points but as far as I can see you don't actually have any. You don't like what they've done. That's fine, you don't have to. But that is literally all you have to day about it. Darmik posted... Nobody wins here. Don't be so tribal. It's not about 'winning.' Devs offer something, you decide whether or not to buy it. It's really that simple. --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. <cite>IloveJesus posted [p:943324071] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>They paid the same price at the same time for less content.</quote> And if they aren't happy with that offer they don't have to buy into it. Consumers have a choice, both in terms of buying consoles and buying games. Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>You also completely ignored the rest of my points. This is an online game that encourages you to build up your team of heroes. The game launches with 6 heroes. One hero is a lot of content for a game like this.</quote> You say I ignored your points but as far as I can see you don't actually have any. You don't like what they've done. That's fine, you don't have to. But that is literally all you have to day about it. Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>Nobody wins here.</quote> Don't be so tribal. It's not about 'winning.' Devs offer something, you decide whether or not to buy it. It's really that simple. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkninja42 08/13/20 5:27:55 AM #147:	JE19426 posted... Oh, how so? Developers (in this case Crystal Dynamics/Eidos Montreal) are beholden to make whatever game the publishers (Square Enix) tell them to. That's how it's always worked. That's how you get shit like Bioware making Anthem despite it being completely out of their wheelhouse. --- I'm far from high end, I just know what suits me. <cite>Darkninja42 posted [p:943324274] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>JE19426 posted... </cite> <quote>Oh, how so?</quote>Developers (in this case Crystal Dynamics/Eidos Montreal) are beholden to make whatever game the publishers (Square Enix) tell them to. That's how it's always worked. That's how you get shit like Bioware making Anthem despite it being completely out of their wheelhouse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 08/13/20 5:45:59 AM #148:	Darkninja42 posted... Developers (in this case Crystal Dynamics/Eidos Montreal) are beholden to make whatever game the publishers (Square Enix) tell them to. That's how it's always worked. That's how you get shit like Bioware making Anthem despite it being completely out of their wheelhouse. Then Square Enix should have made them made a game where they didn't need to make a famous character exclusive to one console. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:943324471] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>Darkninja42 posted... </cite> <quote>Developers (in this case Crystal Dynamics/Eidos Montreal) are beholden to make whatever game the publishers (Square Enix) tell them to. That's how it's always worked. That's how you get shit like Bioware making Anthem despite it being completely out of their wheelhouse.</quote> Then Square Enix should have made them made a game where they didn't need to make a famous character exclusive to one console. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 08/13/20 12:40:57 PM #149:	JE19426 posted... Then Square Enix should have made them made a game where they didn't need to make a famous character exclusive to one console. Yes. That is what I was saying, dude. Blame the publisher(or Marvel/Sony) not the devs. The devs had no choice. That is what we started our argument on, if you recall. Me saying that. --- livingdeadrpg.proboards.com "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:943334448] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote> Then Square Enix should have made them made a game where they didn't need to make a famous character exclusive to one console. </quote> Yes. That is what I was saying, dude. Blame the publisher(or Marvel/Sony) not the devs. The devs had no choice. That is what we started our argument on, if you recall. Me saying that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 08/13/20 11:49:53 PM #150:	Sony wanted Spiderman, so paid an exclusivity fee for him. What was Squeenix supposed to do, turn down free profit? Ya'll need to stop thinking these Triple A developers have any real morals or ethics. --- If you protest, it's because you feel your voice isn't being heard. If you riot, it's because you feel your voice is being ignored. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:943359173] in 'Marvel's ... [t:78906339]...</cite> <quote>Sony wanted Spiderman, so paid an exclusivity fee for him. What was Squeenix supposed to do, turn down free profit? Ya'll need to stop thinking these Triple A developers have any real morals or ethics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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