Current Events > 3 Federal Officers Permanently Blinded By Lasers From Portland Protesters

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GreenMagicite posted...

You consider these as gestapo?

Agents from US Marshals Service, Federal Protective Service, Homeland Security Investigations, and US Customs and Border Protection (CBP)

Why is Customs and Border Protection engaged in "peacekeeping" operations?

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Considering this report is for unnamed Gestapo agents id say there is a 95% chance this is fake. Also consider the fact peaceful protestors and journalists have been blinded by police and it makes it tough for me to feel sorry for the aggressors .

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/comments/hxe7fr/portland_police_caught_shouting_leave_no_evidence/

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GreenMagicite posted...

You consider these as gestapo?

Agents from US Marshals Service, Federal Protective Service, Homeland Security Investigations, and US Customs and Border Protection (CBP)

Why dont you post what they were doing :)

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TheBiggerWiggle posted...

Considering this report is for unnamed Gestapo agents id say there is a 95% chance this is fake. Also consider the fact peaceful protestors and journalists have been blinded by police and it makes it tough for me to feel sorry for the aggressors .

Also consider the fact that its literally not bad if it is real

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GreenMagicite posted...

You consider these as gestapo?

Agents from US Marshals Service, Federal Protective Service, Homeland Security Investigations, and US Customs and Border Protection (CBP)

Allegedly. We actually don't know who they are because they're nameless, faceless, and kidnap people.

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So not ZTI then, or the SRT apparently. That means in the infinite wisdom of those in charge, instead of protecting law enforcement by using something sensible like PO001-PO999 or P0001-P9999 or literally anything consistent, they decided the best case scenario was to go with random ass call signs which really serve no tactical purpose, unless its broken up by division which even then was still done in a way that makes no real sense.

Thus opening the door for more paranoia and fear, because why the fuck not. Like, its good it isnt milita. Its stupid as fuck that someone made this decision.

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Poop2 posted...

Protesters were blinded by cops too.

whats your point?

Yeah, protestors have been losing eyes for months due to getting tear gas canisters and rubber bullets fired point blank at their faces.

Any injury is unfortunate, and everyone deserves to have the full range of their health, but the protestors have been brutalized by the dozen for months on end. I'm not going to weep for three feds being blinded in comparison to the dozens of protestors who've been brutalized over a longer period of time.

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Jagr_68 posted...

*rewinds to last month when random pig blinded a photographer with mace*

Forget mace. Cops are out there literally shooting out people's eyes with beanbags.

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Bleuets posted...

Average human being: wow thats awful. I support the protests but dont support this level of violence.

Average gamefaqs user: this is okay.

Have you seen how many innocent protesters, old people, reporters and medics have been hurt.

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Good, fascist's had it coming.

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

@Corrik7 just to add an analogy to this. People can be upset that a big strong person is bullying a weaker vulnerable person and in the same breath be happy to see that weaker vulnerable person snap and punch the bully in the face without it being hypocritical because the fact of the matter is if you spend your entire existence picking on people who can't defend themselves you are eventually going to get your comeuppance.

The federal government is there to try and bring order to people who are breaking the law repeatedly. So, I assume the bullies are the criminals in this case.

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Corrik7 posted...

The federal government is there to try and bring order to people who are breaking the law repeatedly. So, I assume the bullies are the criminals in this case.

Obviously that is exactly what I meant, good job Corrik. /sarcasm.

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Corrik7 posted...

The federal government is there to try and bring order to people who are breaking the law repeatedly. So, I assume the bullies are the criminals in this case.

The question is, who and how many are you willing to sacrifice for the sake of order?

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Obviously that is exactly what I meant, good job Corrik. /sarcasm.

No problem, bud. I had complete faith in you that you wouldn't consider people breaking the law repeatedly as the bullied.

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Bleuets posted...

Average human being: wow thats awful. I support the protests but dont support this level of violence.

Average gamefaqs user: this is okay.

g980 posted...

Absolutely disgusting how much people on this board are getting hard ons for human beings getting blinded

Police violence and violence against police can be simultaneously wrong

These people with the lasers probably should be in prison because you just dont fucking use those offensively in urban environments. Either someone is blinded or it does nothing. A taser or something is a more reliable less lethal weapon.

My sympathy for the officers drops massively if they were trying a warrantless arrest or using excessive force when the injury occurred.


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lmao

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Corrik7 posted...

No problem, bud. I had complete faith in you that you wouldn't consider people breaking the law repeatedly as the bullied.

you sound an awful lot like a donald right now :(

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Corrik7 posted...

No problem, bud. I had complete faith in you that you wouldn't consider people breaking the law repeatedly as the bullied.

Please explain how that Navy Veteran who was going to ask a couple questions and nothing more deserved to be maced and have his hand broken? Or why that 70 year old man deserved to be pushed down?

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pikachupwnage posted...

These people with the lasers probably should be in prison because you just dont fucking use those offensively in urban environments. Either someone is blinded or it does nothing. A taser or something is a more reliable less lethal weapon.

My sympathy for the officers drops massively if they were trying a warrantless arrest or using excessive force when the injury occurred.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/three-federal-officers-could-be-permanently-blind-after-laser-attacks-from-portland-protesters

I mean, just read the article. It was rioters destroying things. They were trying to gain entrance to the courthouse while destroying things. The officers were preventing entry. That means someone brought these lasers to the scene with the intent of using them on officers. It is pretty clear cut that there was intent, and it was used by people who were not peaceful protestors.

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Hexenherz posted...

Please explain how that Navy Veteran who was going to ask a couple questions and nothing more deserved to be maced and have his hand broken? Or why that 70 year old man deserved to be pushed down?

Are you going to try and tell me how an isolated incident somehow relates to every single person in the government or law enforcement deserving to be mistreated or considered a certain way? If you applied your own criteria to race you would be absolutely a racist. Imagine some dumbass saying racial injustice is deserved because did you see that one person killed 4 cops in Dallas.

That's an absolutely crazy argument.


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Corrik7 posted...

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/three-federal-officers-could-be-permanently-blind-after-laser-attacks-from-portland-protesters

I mean, just read the article. It was rioters destroying things. They were trying to gain entrance to the courthouse while destroying things. The officers were preventing entry. That means someone brought these lasers to the scene with the intent of using them on officers. It is pretty clear cut that there was intent, and it was used by people who were not peaceful protestors.

If it was Monday night, that was after the DHS started doing its illegal round-ups of protestors and published a really sensationalized media report on their website about violent anarchists.

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Machete posted...

you sound an awful lot like a donald right now :(

I call out the lunacy on both the right and left. Both spectrums literally are being overrun by extremism anymore. America needs more than 2 political parties because the polarization is getting out of hand.

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@Corrik7 you replied before I could edit my post, i was also going to point out how it is often the government that is the victim of low level criminals so the analogy of the government being the bullied and criminals being the bullies fits so well.

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Corrik7 posted...

Are you going to try and tell me how an isolated incident somehow relates to every single person in the government or law enforcement deserving to be mistreated or considered a certain way? If you applied your own criteria to race you would be absolutely a racist. Imagine some dumbass saying racial injustice is deserved because did you see that one person killed 4 cops in Dallas.

That's an absolutely crazy argument.

Not really a crazy argument when the people who perpetrated these actions are law enforcement officers who are supposed to uphold the law. Their actions were in direct contradiction to the law. They were not held accountable for it, and none in their peer group tried to hold them accountable, either. They represent the government.

And I do not extend that logic to *everyone* in the government - a person who sorts mail at OPM has jack all to do with what's going on.

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Corrik7 posted...

Are you going to try and tell me how an isolated incident somehow relates to every single person in the government or law enforcement deserving to be mistreated or considered a certain way?

Isolated incident #4332574*
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Hexenherz posted...

Not really a crazy argument when the people who perpetrated these actions are law enforcement officers who are supposed to uphold the law. Their actions were in direct contradiction to the law. They were not held accountable for it, and none in their peer group tried to hold them accountable, either. They represent the government.

And I do not extend that logic to *everyone* in the government - a person who sorts mail at OPM has jack all to do with what's going on.

And you would wonder why people would consider you an anarchist. You are against anything that upholds the law and order of life. That's literally anarchy, bud. Call yourself for what you are saying.

Anarchy is an asinine idea.

You hold people who commit crime and make mistakes accountable. As the officer in the Floyd case will be. You don't attack all of law enforcement for it. It would be like the government nuking Portland because there are some looters and rioters there. That's ridiculous.

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This seems very unlikely to be true. But *shrugs*

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I think you are taking what I'm trying to say and then forcing it all the way to an extreme viewpoint, and that's really disrespectful honestly.

You can uphold law and order without resorting to thug tactics that we've seen in corrupt countries (like Ukraine during Evromaidan) and without assaulting private citizens. Everything they are doing in Portland is counter-productive and there would be more room to protect a federal courthouse if federal police forces *weren't* there doing what they're doing right now.

Like at what cost to human life on both sides does a building that can be rebuilt really matter?

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Corrik7 posted...

You hold people who commit crime and make mistakes accountable. As the officer in the Floyd case will be. You don't attack all of law enforcement for it. It would be like the government nuking Portland because there are some looters and rioters there. That's ridiculous.

Innocent protester are getting messed up and beat for what others did. The literal mayor was tear gassed .

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Like, when you have literal white suburbanite moms coming out to protest and protect protestors from government aggression, it's probably time to stop and reconsider a few of the things you're doing there...

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Corrik7 posted...

You hold people who commit crime and make mistakes accountable. As the officer in the Floyd case will be. You don't attack all of law enforcement for it. It would be like the government nuking Portland because there are some looters and rioters there. That's ridiculous.

how? the secret police are all covering their faces and not wearing anything to identify themselves. there's no way for the people who are being brutalized to legally fight back

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Hexenherz posted...

I think you are taking what I'm trying to say and then forcing it all the way to an extreme viewpoint, and that's really disrespectful honestly.

You can uphold law and order without resorting to thug tactics that we've seen in corrupt countries (like Ukraine during Evromaidan) and without assaulting private citizens. Everything they are doing in Portland is counter-productive and there would be more room to protect a federal courthouse if federal police forces *weren't* there doing what they're doing right now.

Like at what cost to human life on both sides does a building that can be rebuilt really matter?

So you are saying you should capitulate to terrorism and criminal activities?

What are you saying? I don't understand your argument. That people should be able to burn down whatever buildings they want because it is not directly human life? How do you think they rebuild these things?

Taxes for government buildings. Maybe they move some funds over from health services to fund the rebuilds. Maybe they tax everyone more and low income families have to choose between going to the hospital or not due to the crunch.

Corporations raise prices for the costs to rebuild. Or maybe they don't rebuild them and people lose their jobs due to their workplace being gone now.

There is an indirect cost that can affect human lives by what is going on. Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

There is a simple solution. Don't burn things down. Don't attack people. Those are not protests. Those are riots.

There was a freaking person in that pawn shop they burned down in Minneapolis. Why? Why is that acceptable? Why are you burning places down? Tell me how many people you lose your message to when your message turns violent?

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KnightofShikari posted...

how? the secret police are all covering their faces and not wearing anything to identify themselves. there's no way for the people who are being brutalized to legally fight back

They have identification numbers to my knowledge. The officers are being literally doxxed and their families threatened according to reports. So they wear identification numbers.

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Gods damn, that guy is really committed to the bit.

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Corrik7 posted...

Why are you burning places down?

You don't get to use the "isolated incident" argument defending the police and then turn around and accuse everyone on the left of wanting to riot and destroy.

Not if you want to be taken seriously.

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lol I don't know if he's serious and maybe I should be more respectful myself and try to explain but I'm tired and don't care so block list it is.

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CyricZ posted...

You don't get to use the "isolated incident" argument defending the police and then turn around and accuse everyone on the left of wanting to riot and destroy.

Not if you want to be taken seriously.

Not everyone on the left is doing that. And the police and officers are not there to stop everyone on the left. They are there to stop the people who are breaking the law. That said, they are using the peaceful protestors as cover.

Not much different than when terrorists use hospitals as bases or March with women and children in their ranks.

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Are you going to answer my first question to you?

What are you willing to sacrifice for the sake of order?

No, more specific question:

What are you willing to allow the government to do for the sake of order?

Are you okay with allowing unidentified federal agents to invade a state and city against the wishes of its local leadership and detain citizens off the street without charging them?

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Corrik7 posted...

Not everyone on the left is doing that. And the police and officers are not there to stop everyone on the left. They are there to stop the people who are breaking the law. That said, they are using the peaceful protestors as cover.

Not much different than when terrorists use hospitals as bases or March with women and children in their ranks.

Police have literally being targeting medics and reporters.

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Corrik7 posted...

They have identification numbers to my knowledge. The officers are being literally doxxed and their families threatened according to reports. So they wear identification numbers.

so how come the real military, when going into actual combat against real terrorists armed with firearms and more resources and connections than a random group of protesters have to wear uniforms with their names and branch of service clearly out in the open, in english and arabic?

and where are the reports of officers being doxxed? they arrived without ID on their uniforms so how would people doxx them?

regardless, this is an administration that has no problems outright lying to the public's faces. without proof of actual injury, no one in their right mind should believe that the secret police have been injured

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KnightofShikari posted...

so how come the real military, when going into actual combat against real terrorists armed with firearms and more resources and connections than a random group of protesters have to wear uniforms with their names and branch of service clearly out in the open, in english and arabic?

and where are the reports of officers being doxxed? they arrived without ID on their uniforms so how would people doxx them?

regardless, this is an administration that has no problems outright lying to the public's faces. without proof of actual injury, no one in their right mind should believe that the secret police have been injured

https://m.theepochtimes.com/38-officers-doxxed-after-responding-to-portland-riots-dhs-says_3433457.html

Honestly, I would say you should distrust everything coming out on both sides. We seen a lot of videos from the beginning of the riots were edited to try and show a narrative on both sides. From the initial reports of the shake shack drinks or whatever or the videos of cops supposedly vandalizing their own cars to blame on protestors. Too many of these headlines and videos are fake or misrepresented.

Does that mean the lasers and the doxxing stuff is fake? Possibly. They are just as likely to be fake though as the videos being purported to show the government is doing things illegally also.

Each side wants public opinion on their side. Doesn't mean that either side is necessarily being honest to try and get that support either.

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The only way I see someone thinking what the government is doing right now is fine is if they believe themselves to be protected from state violence. Typically, in fascist takeovers, people like that rue their naivety by the time fascism has been fully installed.

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Zeeak4444 posted...

life and liberty.

two things that have absolutely been violated by police.

keep trying though, you might say something intelligent eventually.

uh but he already did

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Shablagoo posted...

The only way I see someone thinking what the government is doing right now is fine is if they believe themselves to be protected from state violence. Typically, in fascist takeovers, people like that rue their naivety by the time fascism has been fully installed.

Here's a really great article on this phenomenon if you're interested - they tie in history from other countries with modern day narratives we've seen in US politics: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/07/trumps-collaborators/612250/

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Corrik7 posted...

Honestly, I would say you should distrust everything coming out on both sides. We seen a lot of videos from the beginning of the riots were edited to try and show a narrative on both sides. From the initial reports of the shake shack drinks or whatever or the videos of cops supposedly vandalizing their own cars to blame on protestors. Too many of these headlines and videos are fake or misrepresented.

Does that mean the lasers and the doxxing stuff is fake? Possibly. They are just as likely to be fake though as the videos being purported to show the government is doing things illegally also.

Each side wants public opinion on their side. Doesn't mean that either side is necessarily being honest to try and get that support either.

can't read your site, but this one seems to let you read it:

https://www.newsweek.com/38-police-officers-have-been-doxxed-during-protests-portland-dhs-says-1519530

sounds like the portland PD covered up their names first after citizens were filing police brutality lawsuits. the citizens then used anything they could to find out who the actual cops were doing the police brutality. sure, they might have overstepped their bounds a little, but how else is someone supposed to get justice? file a report and have the police "investigate" themselves? laughable. the secret police then used this to say they don't need readable ID so now they can go out and attack people with impunity and without fear of legal retaliation

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Hexenherz posted...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/comments/hxe7fr/portland_police_caught_shouting_leave_no_evidence/

Yo.