Poll of the Day > Zeus vs. Yahweh

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Who would win?

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Probably Yahweh...

The entire Greek pantheon would be like... damn, half the planet believes in a god that definitely doesn't exist, how can we possibly compete with that?

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Yahweh because obvious reasons

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SpeeDLeemon posted...

Yahweh because obvious reasons

Such as...?

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ComradeSeraphim posted...

Such as...?

For reminding him that he owes us another fanmade YGO set.

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Rip Torn > Val Kilmer

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Both are fictional, neither one wins.

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Yahweh.

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Yahweh - omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent

Zeus - none of these things.

Literally an unloseable battle.

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Chaos_Echo posted...

Yahweh - omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent

Zeus - none of these things.

Literally an unloseable battle.

The only person to actually come at this from a gamers point of view.

*respectfully nods*


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Zeus posted...

For reminding him that he owes us another fanmade YGO set.

lmao damn ur weird

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Big_Becky posted...

Both are fictional, neither one wins.

C'mon! I'm standing right here!

Chaos_Echo posted...

Yahweh - omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent

Zeus - none of these things.

Literally an unloseable battle.

Oh yeah, if Yahweh is so omnipotent then how come he can't heat a burrito so hot that even he can't eat it? Because I can do that!

Plus omniscience doesn't win you fights and omnipresence just means more places you can get hit.

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Yahweh easily. I mean, when you are all-powerful, all-knowing, and everything else...

It would be like a SMITE game but with an opponent who has hacked for infinite HP, damage, and map vision. You could be the best players around but it's not gonna do you any good if the opponent can basically just blow up the lane on a whim.

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Oh yeah, if Yahweh is so omnipotent then how come he can't heat a burrito so hot that even he can't eat it? Because I can do that!

No. Because by the point it reached such a level it would have melted into a pile of quarks and could no longer be classified as a 'burrito'.

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Unbridled9 posted...

Yahweh easily. I mean, when you are all-powerful, all-knowing, and everything else...

It would be like a SMITE game but with an opponent who has hacked for infinite HP, damage, and map vision. You could be the best players around but it's not gonna do you any good if the opponent can basically just blow up the lane on a whim.

I've never played SMITE so I have no idea what it is and thus if this is even applicable but they're also allowed to attack you when and however they please too. And move however they want.

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one is by definition omnipotent, the other one has clear limiters on his power

i'm more of a fan of zeus but in a brawl with their canon powers he definitely loses

both of them lose to Demonbane though

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Chaos_Echo posted...

I've never played SMITE so I have no idea what it is and thus if this is even applicable but they're also allowed to attack you when and however they please too. And move however they want.

It's League of Legends but with deities.

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It's a lot more direct action compared to League but yeah

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agesboy posted...

one is by definition omnipotent, the other one has clear limiters on his power

i'm more of a fan of zeus but in a brawl with their canon powers he definitely loses

both of them lose to Demonbane though

I mean I don't think it's possible for the Abrahamic Yahweh to lose in a fight. With like... anything. Ever. By definition of what He is.

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Zeus posted...

Oh yeah, if Yahweh is so omnipotent then how come he can't heat a burrito so hot that even he can't eat it? Because I can do that!

But he can. And then he can also eat it. Omnipotence isn't really omnipotence if logic beats it, after all.

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Chaos_Echo posted...

I mean I don't think it's possible for the Abrahamic Yahweh to lose in a fight. With like... anything. Ever. By definition of what He is.

demonbane is specifically written to counter omnipotence

you can say that a system that involves abrahamic yahweh cannot by definition allow a being such as demonbane, but in the hypothetical scenario where they both exist at the same time, demonbane demonstrates absurd plot hax

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agesboy posted...

demonbane is specifically written to counter omnipotence

you can say that a system that involves abrahamic yahweh cannot by definition allow a being such as demonbane, but in the hypothetical scenario where they both exist at the same time, demonbane demonstrates absurd plot hax

And then omnipotence says that demonbane no longer does that. I don't think you understand what all-powerful means.

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Chaos_Echo posted...

And then omnipotence says that demonbane no longer does that. I don't think you understand what all-powerful means.

That, or it allows demonbane to keep doing that, but then still wins because that's just how omnipotence works. There are no limitations on what it can do, by definition.

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Chaos_Echo posted...

And then omnipotence says that demonbane no longer does that. I don't think you understand what all-powerful means.

demonbane is omnipotent too, with specifically defined counters to other omnipotent powers, such as being able to summon an infinite number of friendly alternate hypothetical yahweh or being written into existence itself so that anything that erases it is undone automatically

i don't think you understand that omnipotence is not solely a yahweh thing

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agesboy posted...

demonbane is omnipotent too, with specifically defined counters to other omnipotent powers, such as being able to summon an infinite number of friendly alternate hypothetical yahweh or being written into existence itself so that anything that erases it is undone automatically

i don't think you understand that omnipotence is not solely a yahweh thing

Then it's an eternal draw, and both win and lose at the same time eternally because we are at a place far above humanly understandable concepts.

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Chaos_Echo posted...

Then it's an eternal draw, and both win and lose at the same time eternally because we are at a place far above humanly understandable concepts.

Pretty much. It's not a matter of "we're both omnipotent so now we're on an even footing and whatever extra advantages one thing has will dictate the outcome," it's a matter of infinity always being greater than, less than, and equal to infinity, all at the same time.

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adjl posted...

Pretty much. It's not a matter of "we're both omnipotent so now we're on an even footing and whatever extra advantages one thing has will dictate the outcome," it's a matter of infinity always being greater than, less than, and equal to infinity, all at the same time.

Stargate SG1 spoilers ... this is also how Anubis is eventually defeated

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adjl posted...

That, or it allows demonbane to keep doing that, but then still wins because that's just how omnipotence works. There are no limitations on what it can do, by definition.

Well... sort of. There is the inherent limitation of being logical. Like, for example, the question of 'can god make a rock so big he cannot lift it' is an inherently illogical question. Why? Because in order for God to 'lift' something God must have a standing base. Otherwise he's just doing handstands on a massive rock as gravity would shift towards said rock. So in order for this massive stone to exist and for God to lift it he must first create an even larger stone to stand on. As a result the question is inherently illogical. It doesn't help that the rocks would also collapse into a star (which lacks a solid surface) or a black hole once over a certain mass.

It's like my response to that burrito question earlier. If we assume God is, in fact, all powerful than by the time said burrito reached anything resembling 'hot enough' that God couldn't eat it, it would have transformed well past plasma into an exciting new form of matter and could no longer be considered a 'burrito'. If God made something that could, in theory, withstand such temps without dissolving into a quivering pile of parts, could said something be considered a 'burrito' since it would, doubtless, not be organic?

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Unbridled9 posted...

There is the inherent limitation of being logical.

bro once you hit omnipotence logic is your bitch. In case you forgot, according to Christianity, God created logic with said omnipotence.

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adjl posted...

it's a matter of infinity always being greater than, less than, and equal to infinity, all at the same time

uh, uncontrollable urge to pedantize: there are at least two kinds of infinity, and one is bigger than the other

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2 all powerful and all knowing gods wouldn't fight, both would just know the outcome since they know all, time probably wouldn't exist at all to them

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Muscles posted...

2 all powerful and all knowing gods wouldn't fight, both would just know the outcome since they know all, time probably wouldn't exist at all to them

You talking about the title conflict? Since Zeus sure as shit is neither of those things.

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No, I was talking about the battle of omnipotent gods

Yahweh would beat zeus without batting an eye

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Chaos_Echo posted...

You talking about the title conflict? Since Zeus sure as shit is neither of those things.

Hey, I know more than the average god! And while I don't have all the powers, I have all the good ones.

And since he's all-knowing, he hasn't tried shit because he know he'd lose if we went deus-a-deus.


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agesboy posted...

demonbane is omnipotent too

Literally not possible.

You cannot have two omnipotent entities at the same time. It's like having an immovable object and an unstoppable force; the existence of one precludes the existence of the other.

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