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Mead 07/15/20 12:15:37 AM #1:	What a film --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:942126821] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote>What a film </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42 07/15/20 12:39:50 AM #2:	So many Heinlein fans were seriously dissapointed by it. It's NOTHING like the original book. I have not read the book in over 40 years though, so I just like the movie, but I did really like the book. Back in the early 70's there wasn't that many options for science fiction, you had Asimov and Heinlein and a few others but that was it. They kinda totally ignored the book for the movie, and I think that was one of the first times it had ever been done to that extent. I really need to go back and read some of his stuff again, although i'm sure alot hasn't aged well. I have re-read Stranger in a strange land at least a few times over the decades, but even that has been maybe even 20 years since I read it last. --- Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at." Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing." <cite>wolfy42 posted [p:942127525] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote>So many Heinlein fans were seriously dissapointed by it. It's NOTHING like the original book. I have not read the book in over 40 years though, so I just like the movie, but I did really like the book. Back in the early 70's there wasn't that many options for science fiction, you had Asimov and Heinlein and a few others but that was it. They kinda totally ignored the book for the movie, and I think that was one of the first times it had ever been done to that extent. I really need to go back and read some of his stuff again, although i'm sure alot hasn't aged well. I have re-read Stranger in a strange land at least a few times over the decades, but even that has been maybe even 20 years since I read it last. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 07/15/20 12:41:48 AM #3:	Didnt even know it was anything before a movie. --- C was right. <cite>zebatov posted [p:942127582] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote>Didnt even know it was anything before a movie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 07/15/20 12:43:29 AM #4:	Roughnecks --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:942127638] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote>Roughnecks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 07/15/20 12:45:03 AM #5:	wolfy42 posted... So many Heinlein fans were seriously dissapointed by it. It's NOTHING like the original book. It's more like the opposite of the book. The movie basically takes every theme, concept, and moral of the book and sort of argues the exact counter opposite of it via hyper-excessive satire. It's basically like Verhoeven read the book, and then hated it so much he made the movie solely to shit on the book and everyone who actually liked it. It's kind of like the Colbert Report of its era. And then half the people who watched the movie completely missed the satire and took it at face value, which sort of took it all the way back around again. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:942127673] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote><cite>wolfy42 posted...</cite> <quote>So many Heinlein fans were seriously dissapointed by it. It's NOTHING like the original book.</quote> It's more like the opposite of the book. The movie basically takes every theme, concept, and moral of the book and sort of argues the exact counter opposite of it via hyper-excessive satire. It's basically like Verhoeven read the book, and then hated it so much he made the movie solely to shit on the book and everyone who actually liked it. It's kind of like the Colbert Report of its era. And then half the people who watched the movie completely missed the satire and took it at face value, which sort of took it all the way back around again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42 07/15/20 12:45:43 AM #6:	zebatov posted... Didnt even know it was anything before a movie. Search Results Web results Starship Troopers - Wikipedia undefined posted... undefined posted... Starship Troopers is a military science fiction novel by American writer Robert A. Heinlein. Written in a few weeks in reaction to the U.S. suspending nuclear tests, the story was first published as a two-part serial in The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction as Starship Soldier, and published as a book by G. P.Pages: 263 (paperback edition) Publisher: G. P. Putnam's Sons Author: Robert A. Heinlein Publication date: November 5, 1959 It was before most of the posters on here's time, although hopefully many of you at least read things like STranger in a strange land and The moon is a harsh mistress etc. Heinlein was amazing when I was a young kid, it was really hard to find science fiction books to read. --- Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at." Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing." <cite>wolfy42 posted [p:942127691] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote>zebatov posted... </cite> <quote>Didnt even know it was anything before a movie.</quote> Search Results Web results Starship Troopers - Wikipedia <cite>undefined posted... </cite> <cite>undefined posted... </cite> Starship Troopers is a military science fiction novel by American writer Robert A. Heinlein. Written in a few weeks in reaction to the U.S. suspending nuclear tests, the story was first published as a two-part serial in The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction as Starship Soldier, and published as a book by G. P.Pages: 263 (paperback edition) Publisher: G. P. Putnam's Sons Author: Robert A. Heinlein Publication date: November 5, 1959 It was before most of the posters on here's time, although hopefully many of you at least read things like STranger in a strange land and The moon is a harsh mistress etc. Heinlein was amazing when I was a young kid, it was really hard to find science fiction books to read. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darcandkharg31 07/15/20 12:49:32 AM #7:	Pretty cool until like the last bit where three of them are wasting like a dozen bugs a a second when like most of the movie 5 troopers could barely kill one. --- The doll's trying to kill me and the toaster's been laughing at me! If you take 110% of what I say seriously then you're gonna have a bad time. <cite>darcandkharg31 posted [p:942127811] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote>Pretty cool until like the last bit where three of them are wasting like a dozen bugs a a second when like most of the movie 5 troopers could barely kill one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 07/15/20 12:51:21 AM #8:	darcandkharg31 posted... Pretty cool until like the last bit where three of them are wasting like a dozen bugs a a second when like most of the movie 5 troopers could barely kill one. well earlier in the film theyre still grinding and havent leveled up yet --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:942127871] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote>darcandkharg31 posted... </cite> <quote>Pretty cool until like the last bit where three of them are wasting like a dozen bugs a a second when like most of the movie 5 troopers could barely kill one.</quote> well earlier in the film theyre still grinding and havent leveled up yet </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42 07/15/20 12:55:58 AM #9:	ParanoidObsessive posted... It's more like the opposite of the book. The movie basically takes every theme, concept, and moral of the book and sort of argues the exact counter opposite of it via hyper-excessive satire. It's basically like Verhoeven read the book, and then hated it so much he made the movie solely to shit on the book and everyone who actually liked it. It's kind of like the Colbert Report of its era. And then half the people who watched the movie completely missed the satire and took it at face value, which sort of took it all the way back around again. Yeah, honestly i'm lucky I even remember reading it anymore, I do remember vaguely he was jumping around on asteroids all by himself, and I think he was pretty much alone/solo for most of the book. I'm surprised I even remember that with my memory these days. Glad to see others that have read it though!!:) I know there was edgar rice burroughs back then, I think Piers Anthony had started his Xanth books as well, there was the Melnaborne books by moorcok, I think Jack Chalker had done Midnight at the well of souls, the conan books were out already, asimov also had stuff as well. By the early 80's things had exploded, you had so many series by then I was in heaven and pretty much never ran out of books again (I read a book a day till I got married at 27). The 70's though were doubly hard, as I was young and not working yet (started around 9 in 4th grade (Which I skipped lol, just didn't go to school for a year cause I found it boring, and worked instead). Before that I was completely reliant on libraries though, which were very hit or miss for sci-fi/fantasy books. --- Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at." Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing." <cite>wolfy42 posted [p:942128003] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>It's more like the opposite of the book. The movie basically takes every theme, concept, and moral of the book and sort of argues the exact counter opposite of it via hyper-excessive satire. It's basically like Verhoeven read the book, and then hated it so much he made the movie solely to shit on the book and everyone who actually liked it. It's kind of like the Colbert Report of its era. And then half the people who watched the movie completely missed the satire and took it at face value, which sort of took it all the way back around again.</quote> Yeah, honestly i'm lucky I even remember reading it anymore, I do remember vaguely he was jumping around on asteroids all by himself, and I think he was pretty much alone/solo for most of the book. I'm surprised I even remember that with my memory these days. Glad to see others that have read it though!!:) I know there was edgar rice burroughs back then, I think Piers Anthony had started his Xanth books as well, there was the Melnaborne books by moorcok, I think Jack Chalker had done Midnight at the well of souls, the conan books were out already, asimov also had stuff as well. By the early 80's things had exploded, you had so many series by then I was in heaven and pretty much never ran out of books again (I read a book a day till I got married at 27). The 70's though were doubly hard, as I was young and not working yet (started around 9 in 4th grade (Which I skipped lol, just didn't go to school for a year cause I found it boring, and worked instead). Before that I was completely reliant on libraries though, which were very hit or miss for sci-fi/fantasy books. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 07/15/20 12:59:58 AM #10:	wolfy42 posted... I think Jack Chalker had done Midnight at the well of souls I always preferred the Four Lords of the Diamond books of his myself. Never really got into the Well of Souls series. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Lords_of_the_Diamond --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:942128105] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote><cite>wolfy42 posted...</cite> <quote>I think Jack Chalker had done Midnight at the well of souls</quote> I always preferred the Four Lords of the Diamond books of his myself. Never really got into the Well of Souls series. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Lords_of_the_Diamond</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VincentVega 07/15/20 1:04:01 AM #11:	ParanoidObsessive posted... It's basically like Verhoeven read the book, and then hated it so much he made the movie solely to shit on the book and everyone who actually liked it. I think that's exactly what happened. On the dvd I'm pretty sure he says the book is a piece of shit and he threw in the trash. I'm not even sure if he finished reading it. --- "I'm no hero. Never was, never will be. I'm just an old killer, hired to do some wet work." Old Snake in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots <cite>VincentVega posted [p:942128199] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>It's basically like Verhoeven read the book, and then hated it so much he made the movie solely to shit on the book and everyone who actually liked it.</quote> I think that's exactly what happened. On the dvd I'm pretty sure he says the book is a piece of shit and he threw in the trash. I'm not even sure if he finished reading it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42 07/15/20 1:08:44 AM #12:	ParanoidObsessive posted... I always preferred the Four Lords of the Diamond books of his myself. Never really got into the Well of Souls series. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Lords_of_the_Diamond Yeah I remember those, snake in the grass, wolf in the fold etc. Those were good. I liked the river of the dancing gods books as well. Quite a few of his books were a total trip for pre-pubescent me lol. I'm surprised I ended up fairly normal considering some of the stuff I read as a kid. I've re-read the river of the dancing gods within the last decade, but that is about it. They made some new Well books I think a decade or two ago, and I did read those as well. Also re-read the first 2 books in the Xanth series but stopped before Castle Rogna. So many books to read that I'm behind on at this point and I barely read since my eyesight is so bad I can't even use my kindle anymore. I basically have to read on my large 4k tv (that I use as a monitor) and well, I generally just watch a movie or play a game instead at this point. I used to love to read so much, but once I stopped being able to read paperbacks anymore, that seemed to mostly end. --- Agatha "Your naked and they are nuns, it's not your eyes they're not looking at." Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing." <cite>wolfy42 posted [p:942128330] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>I always preferred the Four Lords of the Diamond books of his myself. Never really got into the Well of Souls series. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Lords_of_the_Diamond</quote> Yeah I remember those, snake in the grass, wolf in the fold etc. Those were good. I liked the river of the dancing gods books as well. Quite a few of his books were a total trip for pre-pubescent me lol. I'm surprised I ended up fairly normal considering some of the stuff I read as a kid. I've re-read the river of the dancing gods within the last decade, but that is about it. They made some new Well books I think a decade or two ago, and I did read those as well. Also re-read the first 2 books in the Xanth series but stopped before Castle Rogna. So many books to read that I'm behind on at this point and I barely read since my eyesight is so bad I can't even use my kindle anymore. I basically have to read on my large 4k tv (that I use as a monitor) and well, I generally just watch a movie or play a game instead at this point. I used to love to read so much, but once I stopped being able to read paperbacks anymore, that seemed to mostly end. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Endgame 07/15/20 3:46:56 AM #13:	ParanoidObsessive posted... It's basically like Verhoeven read the book, and then hated it so much he made the movie solely to shit on the book and everyone who actually liked it. That's exactly what happened. Except he only read two chapters and asked for a summary of the rest of it. --- I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will fight to the death for my right to fight you to the death. -Stephen Colbert <cite>Endgame posted [p:942131373] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>It's basically like Verhoeven read the book, and then hated it so much he made the movie solely to shit on the book and everyone who actually liked it.</quote> That's exactly what happened. Except he only read two chapters and asked for a summary of the rest of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 07/15/20 6:00:18 PM #14:	I never realized it before but in the scene where ~~Rico and the Zander dude get in a fight~~ the song Fade Into You by Mazzy Star is playing its actually pretty faint so I never picked it up until now but its clearly that song which doesnt fit the scene at all --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:942157296] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote>I never realized it before but in the scene where Rico and the Zander dude get in a fight the song Fade Into You by Mazzy Star is playing its actually pretty faint so I never picked it up until now but its clearly that song which doesnt fit the scene at all </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReggieTheReckless 07/15/20 6:05:33 PM #15:	man, do I hate books <cite>ReggieTheReckless posted [p:942157535] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote>man, do I hate books </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 07/15/20 6:08:21 PM #16:	ReggieTheReckless posted... man, do I hate books lmao --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:942157658] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote>ReggieTheReckless posted... </cite> <quote>man, do I hate books</quote> lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
captpackrat 07/15/20 6:24:40 PM #17:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk4U8BembHM --- Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, Minutus carborata descendum pantorum. <cite>captpackrat posted [p:942158363] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk4U8BembHM </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LaggnFragnLarry 07/15/20 7:15:50 PM #18:	one of the greatest movies of all time <cite>LaggnFragnLarry posted [p:942160541] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote>one of the greatest movies of all time </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BADoglick 07/23/20 4:55:19 PM #19:	Love the movie. The book is the worst book I've ever read in my life --- BADoglick to the Max! <cite>BADoglick posted [p:942495979] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote>Love the movie. The book is the worst book I've ever read in my life </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanonsSpirit 07/23/20 5:01:57 PM #20:	What's wrong with the book? --- https://imgur.com/tsQUpxC Thanks, Nade Duck! [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] <cite>GanonsSpirit posted [p:942496285] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote>What's wrong with the book?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler X 07/23/20 5:08:23 PM #21:	ParanoidObsessive posted... And then half the people who watched the movie completely missed the satire and took it at face value, which sort of took it all the way back around again. Like how culturally and linguistically "The Prince" by Machiavelli is remembered? --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted [p:942496549] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote> And then half the people who watched the movie completely missed the satire and took it at face value, which sort of took it all the way back around again.</quote> Like how culturally and linguistically "The Prince" by Machiavelli is remembered? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
madadude 07/23/20 5:08:49 PM #22:	GanonsSpirit posted... What's wrong with the book? Just its glorification of fascism and imperialism really, which is why the movie was turned into basically a satire making fun of those aspects of the book and the world's society in it. --- http://www.last.fm/user/madadude17 <cite>madadude posted [p:942496565] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote>GanonsSpirit posted... </cite> <quote>What's wrong with the book?</quote> Just its glorification of fascism and imperialism really, which is why the movie was turned into basically a satire making fun of those aspects of the book and the world's society in it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BADoglick 07/24/20 5:52:19 PM #23:	GanonsSpirit posted... What's wrong with the book? Glorifies imperialism and American exceptionalism, and spends way too much time on the most boring parts while breezing through anything exciting. --- BADoglick to the Max! <cite>BADoglick posted [p:942541265] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote>GanonsSpirit posted... </cite> <quote>What's wrong with the book?</quote> Glorifies imperialism and American exceptionalism, and spends way too much time on the most boring parts while breezing through anything exciting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato 07/24/20 6:01:13 PM #24:	GanonsSpirit posted... What's wrong with the book? Nothing. Its great. <cite>Cacciato posted [p:942541624] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote>GanonsSpirit posted... </cite> <quote>What's wrong with the book?</quote>Nothing. Its great. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 07/24/20 11:19:34 PM #25:	wolfy42 posted... hopefully many of you at least read things like Stranger in a Strange Land That's the one about the cannibal sex cult that murders people and Heinlein tries to present them as the good guys, right? --- TaintedSeraphim is now ComradeSeraphim <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:942553269] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote>wolfy42 posted... </cite> <quote>hopefully many of you at least read things like Stranger in a Strange Land</quote>That's the one about the cannibal sex cult that murders people and Heinlein tries to present them as the good guys, right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanonsSpirit 07/25/20 11:06:12 PM #26:	Old Man's War is the best military sci-fi book, imo. --- https://imgur.com/tsQUpxC Thanks, Nade Duck! [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] <cite>GanonsSpirit posted [p:942591164] in Starship T... [t:78847591]...</cite> <quote>Old Man's War is the best military sci-fi book, imo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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