Current Events > James Gunn says WB Blocked GAY VELMA in SCOOBY DOO to PROTECT THE KIDS!!

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Full Throttle
07/14/20 6:55:07 PM
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Do you think Kids today are ready to see LGBT relationships in kid friendly films?



53 y/o Director James Gunn who did the live-action Scooby-Doo films in the early 2000s revaeled that he wrote the character, Velma Dinkley as EXPLICITY GAY but Warner Brotehrs BLOCKED the choices and even edited out her ambigious references in order to not offend PARENTS and to protect the kids since it was geared toward families!!

Linda Cardelilini portrayed the character as one person had asked the director to make another live action lesbian Velma dreams come true but he wrote back "I tried. But the studio just kept watering it down & watering it down."

Fans have long speculated her sexuality and many called for new iterations to show her romantic side with women as he said those deleted scenes are available online

He clarified though that she was gay in the 1st draft adding the locker scene where Velma serenades Daphne and then kisses her which was in his original script

In the sequel it was revealed that Velma had a boyfriend as the studio did not want to push an LGBT agenda on the kid friendly film

Since then Gunn has been directing Marvel Films with the successful Guardians of the Galaxy and though briefly fired over his past as trump supporters tried to take him down for his supposed "pedophile" personality, he was re-hired and is now expected to direct and release the Suicide Squad sequel

Do you think Kids today are ready to see LGBT relationships in kid friendly movies?

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cjsdowg
07/14/20 6:56:38 PM
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I hate the idea. So many times it is the strong woman or the who is not as "pretty" as the Pretty woman who they make into a lesbian , so many times it feels like a big stereotype

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07/14/20 6:56:43 PM
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Duncanwii
07/14/20 6:58:42 PM
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They could have made Scrappy gay and then his appearance might not feel as much of a cop out.
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Jagr_68
07/14/20 6:59:29 PM
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YellowMustard69
07/14/20 6:59:33 PM
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Why do Scooby Doo characters even need to have romantic interests in the first place?
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Darmik
07/14/20 7:00:26 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
I hate the idea. So many times it is the strong woman or the who is not as "pretty" as the Pretty woman who they make into a lesbian , so many times it feels like a big stereotype

Velma is hot.

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TheMikh
07/14/20 7:01:02 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
I hate the idea. So many times it is the strong woman or the who is not as "pretty" as the Pretty woman who they make into a lesbian , so many times it feels like a big stereotype

i once read that velma has been embraced as an lgbt icon for years, even though she's not explicitly such

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boxington
07/14/20 7:01:42 PM
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all of this "protecting the kids" nonsense is just going to have young people believing that there's something wrong, sinister, shameful, etc. about those who might be LGBTQ+, and for people who fall under that umbrella, they might feel it's something to be ashamed of and hide, and for those who don't fall under it, they'll find stuff like that more difficult to understand and might deal with them negatively

blocking LGBTQ+ representation doesn't help anyone

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Smashingpmkns
07/14/20 7:03:09 PM
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Didn't even realize James Gunn made the Scooby Doo movies
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DeadBankerDream
07/14/20 7:03:42 PM
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Jagr_68 posted...
Clearly wanted to scissor Daphne all night.
https://youtu.be/D9vAsE7yIUA

Holy shit!

...I didn't know Rowan Atkinson was in this shit.
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cjsdowg
07/14/20 7:03:56 PM
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TheMikh posted...
i once read that velma has been embraced as an lgbt icon for years, even though she's not explicitly such

I know for years people make those types of jokes since she had a short hair cut and her big oversized sweater.

This is more of a Fandom thing here.. but it like how almost all guys who are close to each other get "shipped" as gay. It is just like so going on the stereotype that guys can't love each other.

Expect Turk and JD. They would have both been happier living together as platonic life partners.

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Duncanwii
07/14/20 7:04:16 PM
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boxington posted...
have young people believing that there's something wrong, sinister, shameful, etc. about those who might be LGBTQ+,

That's the point. Religious leaders dont want LGBTQ to be seen as good people because their book says they're evil.
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AlisLandale
07/14/20 7:04:18 PM
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Not that I have a problem with a lesbian Velma. But I am curious as to why. >_>

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SocksForWokMAX2
07/14/20 7:04:58 PM
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Is Velma supposed to a lesbian or is that just a stereotype?
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Darmik
07/14/20 7:06:47 PM
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SocksForWokMAX2 posted...
Is Velma supposed to a lesbian or is that just a stereotype?

If you're referring to the original cartoon I don't think she was supposed to be anything more than smart and being unable to see without her glasses.

Which leaves room for later movies to add their own interpretation of the character.

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IronWolf87
07/14/20 7:12:08 PM
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Ok but why does Shaggy eat scooby snacks? Are scooby snacks dog treats that shaggy eats or are they human treats named after scooby doo?
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sktgamer_13dude
07/14/20 7:14:33 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Didn't even realize James Gunn made the Scooby Doo movies

This.

No wonder why at least the first one was good. Only saw the second one once and dont remember much about it.
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ViewtifulGrave
07/14/20 7:17:23 PM
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Darmik posted...
Velma is hot.


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SwordMaster13X
07/14/20 7:29:13 PM
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IronWolf87 posted...
Ok but why does Shaggy eat scooby snacks? Are scooby snacks dog treats that shaggy eats or are they human treats named after scooby doo?

now thats a good question


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TheoryzC
07/14/20 7:32:18 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Didn't even realize James Gunn made the Scooby Doo movies
Just to clarify this he only wrote the screenplays. He didn't direct the movies

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DiegoSanchez206
07/14/20 7:32:51 PM
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James Gunn the pedophile and rape joke guy?

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ThunderTrain
07/14/20 7:34:20 PM
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I really want to see the Rated R version of Scooby Doo

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discodancer77
07/14/20 7:38:59 PM
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James Gunn directed the 2001 live action scooby do? That movie was hilarious, loved the self-aware humour. It was parodying itself

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mrduckbear
07/15/20 8:35:19 PM
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most say yes
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Vyrulisse
07/15/20 8:36:58 PM
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I'm sure there's plenty of porn out there if you need that particular itch scratched. No need for Scooby Doo characters to give me commentary on LGBT.

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Ivynn
07/15/20 8:44:57 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
I'm sure there's plenty of porn out there if you need that particular itch scratched. No need for Scooby Doo characters to give me commentary on LGBT.

It wasn't commentary, the movie originally was supposed to reference all the jokes people have been telling about Scooby Doo for decades (Shaggy and Scooby being stoners, Fred and Daphne always splitting up as an excuse to fuck, and Velma being a lesbian)

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Lordgold666
07/15/20 8:51:59 PM
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YellowMustard69 posted...
Why do Scooby Doo characters even need to have romantic interests in the first place?
Bc the core demo cant go an hour and a half without it

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lightwarrior78
07/15/20 8:58:15 PM
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Lordgold666 posted...
Bc the core demo cant go an hour and a half without it

It's so much of any fandom. I remember an old fanfiction complaint: it's sad that people can take the world of Tolkin and all is has to offer, and write and speculate on which hobbits are fucking each other almost entirely to the point of forgetting the adventure they were on.

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02fran
07/16/20 2:43:08 AM
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Darmik posted...
Velma is hot.
Shes 15.
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Returning_CEmen
07/16/20 2:54:24 AM
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They made her a Latina in the new cartoon movie
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DiegoSanchez206
07/16/20 8:59:16 AM
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CrimsonRage posted...
lol that battle was lost, why are you still fighting it
What battle? I asked a question. I looked it up and yes, that was the same guy.

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Questionmarktarius
07/16/20 10:53:12 AM
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Horndog Velma and lesbian Daphne would be far more interesting.
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FortuneCookie
07/16/20 11:10:25 AM
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I like the idea of Velma being a lesbian. At the time the first movie came out, a number of women in the LGBTQ community were claiming her as one of their own. Then the movie gave her a boyfriend.

If the next Scooby Doo makes her a lesbian, I'm all for it. Unfortunately, she's so often shipped with Shaggy at this point it'd almost be like making a Superman movie where Lois Lane is gay. I think they'd be more likely to make Daphne a lesbian, Fred undefined, and have Shaggy and Velma continue to be a ship. I know that's still breaking up a canon heterosexual couple, but Fred and Daphne are less interesting characters and therefore easier to tinker with.

If Velma is a lesbian in the next movie or cartoon show, that's awesome. Just don't go for the obvious Daphne x Velma ship.

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Questionmarktarius
07/16/20 11:11:35 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Unfortunately, she's so often shipped with Shaggy at this point it'd almost be like making a Superman movie where Lois Lane is gay.
Mutual bearding is an option.
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FortuneCookie
07/16/20 11:14:01 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Mutual bearding is an option.

Velma hooks up with Daphne.
Shaggy hooks up with Fred.

That would be amazing.


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FortuneCookie
07/16/20 11:14:32 AM
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I've changed my mind. Velma is allowed to hook up with Daphne if Shaggy is allowed to hook up with Fred.

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Questionmarktarius
07/16/20 11:15:39 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Velma hooks up with Daphne.
Shaggy hooks up with Fred.
...and Scoob licks himself, because he can.
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FortuneCookie
07/16/20 11:16:17 AM
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Oh, you.

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Kajagogo
07/16/20 11:41:26 AM
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Why were Fred and Daphne even hanging out with Velma and Shaggy in the first place?

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brokenfingers
07/16/20 11:42:40 AM
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This might have been WB's reasoning. But Gunn acting like his fanfic was the word of God in terms of Velma's sexuality is laughable. If anything she's been kind of into Shaggy for decades.

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Ivynn
07/16/20 11:43:30 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Unfortunately, she's so often shipped with Shaggy at this point it'd almost be like making a Superman movie where Lois Lane is gay.

Isn't Mystery Inc the only time this happened? Can't think of any other incarnation where Shaggy x Velma was a thing.

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Firewerx
07/16/20 11:52:21 AM
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"To protect the kids". How much idiocy has been perpetrated in the name of "protecting the kids"?

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FortuneCookie
07/16/20 12:04:30 PM
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If they really wanted to protect the kids, they should've removed the twist ending. Just because someone is unpopular, it doesn't make them a bad individual. That's the real harmful message -- not "Velma likes girls."

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Cobra1010
07/17/20 11:14:09 PM
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YellowMustard69 posted...
Why do Scooby Doo characters even need to have romantic interests in the first place?

This

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