Current Events > Why is Trump hell bent on opening Schools ?

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Because hes the walking equivalent of a guy who doesnt know when to throw in a bad hand.

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CrimsonRage posted...

so send kids to school, and if their parents/grandparents get sick and die, oh well?

i'll never understand trumpers.

Don't forget teachers and other faculty.

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Ludwig Von 2 posted...

kids arent doing school work during that time. So theyre probably trolling the boards here honestly. But during school, theyre doing schoolwork.

I think you underestimate instructor led classes. You cant just sit a kid in front of a computer for 8 hours a day and expect them to absorb all that information. Thats not how kids learn. When schools closed early this year parents were staying home and working with their children to help them with online classes. They no longer have that luxury.

I teach my kids at home. I teach my kids math and science. I'm also an engineering manager and a small business owner. My wife teaches our kids the other subjects while nursing and selling real estate part time.

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NoMeLx22x posted...

Got it. Just wanted to make sure you were dead set on infecting as many people as possible.

wel
l that helps trump right ?
he wants to stop as many people as he can from voting his supporters dont care about spreading the virus so he may win if enough people are infected

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scorpion41 posted...

You do realize many families do not have internet at home right? The problem is even worse in rural areas.

Where do you live where someone doesn't have at least satellite internet?

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CrimsonRage posted...

so send kids to school, and if their parents/grandparents get sick and die, oh well?

i'll never understand trumpers.

propose an alternative. Im all

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C7D posted...

I teach my kids at home. I teach my kids math and science. I'm also an engineering manager and a small business owner. My wife teaches our kids the other subjects while nursing and selling real estate part time.

kudos to you and your wife for doing so. Realize thats not the norm. People are having to go back to work, and even those who have the luxury to work at home dont have time to do both their job and help their kids.

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C7D posted...

I teach my kids at home. I teach my kids math and science. I'm also an engineering manager and a small business owner. My wife teaches our kids the other subjects while nursing and selling real estate part time.

While I admire what you do and think that's awesome. You have to understand that that isn't possible for every family.

And also, there are a lot of parents who might not be as educated and have the ability to educate their children in the same way you or a certified teacher would.

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C7D posted...

I teach my kids at home. I teach my kids math and science. I'm also an engineering manager and a small business owner. My wife teaches our kids the other subjects while nursing and selling real estate part time.

Congratulations. Youre part of a small percentage that can actually make it work. You also have the added bonus of a spouse who helps. What about single parents? Parents that work 12-14 hour days? Parents that straight dont care? Dont overestimate the ability of the majority of public school parents.

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CrimsonRage posted...

oh i don't know, how about doing what countries like mine (canada) did. literally all you had to do, but your stupid leader screwed it up.

don't know what exactly you can do now, but making it easier for the virus to spread and kill more people is not acceptable.

i mean, you didnt propose an alternative but ok..

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Ludwig Von 2 posted...

kudos to you and your wife for doing so. Realize thats not the norm. People are having to go back to work, and even those who have the luxury to work at home dont have time to do both their job and help their kids.

It can be tough to be sure, and I do not envy single parents going at it alone. All of our life is structured, and we don't always get time to do things like make dinner every day. Takeout is the norm for us. It can be done, but it's not an easy life. Homeschooling is a decision that we made largely due to a perceived cultural decay in our community. We had our convictions and were willing to ensure they were satisfied regardless of the cost.

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Rarely is the question asked, is our children learning?

C7D posted...

It can be tough to be sure, and I do not envy single parents going at it alone. All of our life is structured, and we don't always get time to do things like make dinner every day. Takeout is the norm for us. It can be done, but it's not an easy life. Homeschooling is a decision that we made largely due to a perceived cultural decay in our community. We had our convictions and were willing to ensure they were satisfied regardless of the cost.

yea man thats awesome you can do that.

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Hes trying to get the favor of all of the parents who cant afford to stay home and monitor their children if they do online school.

Families in very poor areas are unlikely to have a home internet connection that can facilitate online classes, which for a lot of kids is already an inferior method of learning.

On top of that youd have to be a pretty well disciplined grade school kid to sit at home by yourself in front of the computer all day doing 6+ hours of school work.

Not saying its worth it to go back with covid still rampant, I wouldnt want to. But all online school offers a lot of problems that some people really care about.

What do people want, more teachers and smaller amount of students per classroom so that teachers can properly do their jobs and kids actually learn?

I dunno, I kinda like our current system of cramming almost 30 kids in a medium size room with teachers left to babysit them.

And now theres a pandemic to make things even better.

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gamer167 posted...

On top of that youd have to be a pretty well disciplined grade school kid to sit at home by yourself in front of the computer all day doing 6+ hours of school work.

And even then, leaving children home alone is illegal in a lot of states until they reach a certain age. A lot of states vary from 8-12 years old. It would present a logistical nightmare for many families who have both parents needing to go to work.

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Kids at school mean their parents can go back to work which means great economy!

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CM_Ponch posted...

Because he's an idiot

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ChewedMint posted...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1280209946085339136

This might be the funniest post I've ever seen on gamefaqs. Literally in caps with 3 exclamation points.

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Ludwig Von 2 posted...

I mean, what do you expect a single mother who has to provide for her children to do? She is trying to make a living to provide for her kids.

Do what every other not shitty country does and GIVE STIMULUS PACKAGES

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scorpion41 posted...

Like I said...you make no sense. You talk about parents not having time to help kids with school work at home, then when I say send them to school you shit all over that with you want to infect as many as possible comment. So what is the alternative?

He shits all over it because its a horrifyingly uninformed take.

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It's just his current crusade. Maybe he thinks it will help him in November. If nothing else he can claim he was thinking of the children while the evil democrats were keeping kids from returning to schools.

"Sleepy Joe and Do nothing Democrats don't want to reopen schools."

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dr_strangelove posted...

day camp

Most are not running. I'm a single parent and this has been a challenge for me. Trying dealing with a 2 & 6 year old while handling a full time job.

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Real talk zoom is a shitty replacement for the classroom in all respects. Last year was a wash this year will be too kids gonna need 15 years insteada 12 at this rate

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-Ghetsis- posted...

He shits all over it because its a horrifyingly uninformed take.

Youre right...he has no idea what hes saying.

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Blue_Inigo posted...

Do what every other not shitty country does and GIVE STIMULUS PACKAGES

I love your response, you may have a bright future as a political figure some day, but lets be real, that shit aint happening. Now lets be real, what should we do?

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Ludwig Von 2 posted...

I love your response, you may have a bright future as a political figure some day, but lets be real, that shit aint happening. Now lets be real, what should we do?

Do you ever get tired of posting stupid shit?

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If I was a kid I'd really hate Trump right now.

No kid likes going to school

He wants things to get back to normal, even if it won't be normal due to everyone getting sick and some dying. My boss was the same way. Everyone limits the amount of people coming into their stores to 60-70 people. Not our store, 300 is our limit, even though we aren't any bigger than those stores. Thankfully we don't have to deal with the virus much where I'm from, haven't had a case in 3 weeks.

C7D posted...

What are the single parents doing during the summer months when school was out in the past?

Mine took advantage of the goodwill of people that were well off enough to have a stay at home parent and beg "take care of mine too while you're at it."

OT, there are 2 camps about coivd: one wanting things to get back to normal ASAP, and one that wants to hunker down until it's 110% safe (not a typo). Trump is obviously trying to appeal to the first, and isn't going to listen to rebuttals that come off too rooted in wanting to keep things shut down. I don't mean it's to hurt him. I fully expected that when the "start to open up" orders came people wouldn't give up home life quietly, and it wouldn't matter if it came from Fauci himself.

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coh posted...

If I was a kid I'd really hate Trump right now.

No kid likes going to school

actually its the opposite. Kids have been missing their friends and want the social aspect school provides.

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Blue_School posted...

Advocating for children to grow up stupid and uneducated...

The issue is many wont be growing up.

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Ludwig Von 2 posted...

kids arent doing school work during that time. So theyre probably trolling the boards here honestly. But during school, theyre doing schoolwork.

I think you underestimate instructor led classes. You cant just sit a kid in front of a computer for 8 hours a day and expect them to absorb all that information. Thats not how kids learn. When schools closed early this year parents were staying home and working with their children to help them with online classes. They no longer have that luxury.

Kids can adapt. Learning remotely is the only feasible option right now

uwa ej posted...

Kids can adapt. Learning remotely is the only feasible option right now

Not all kids can strive by sitting in front of a computer. Some kids are hands on learners.

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Ludwig Von 2 posted...

Not all kids can strive by sitting in front of a computer. Some kids are hands on learners.

It's not without challenges but it's the best option because of this pandemic

Ludwig Von 2 posted...

Not all kids can strive by sitting in front of a computer. Some kids are hands on learners.

So increasing the chance of kids and staff dying is the best option.

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Kids also can't learn well when they are sick or dying, or watching their friends get sick and die, or watching their parents get sick and die.
This country handled this terribly. We need at acknowledge that and accept the consequences. Shit needs to be shut down, and shut down for real this time.
That means no opening schools. If online school isn't a feasible option, then we put school on hold for now. Yes, it sucks, but if done correctly there is a chance that we could get this thing under control.
So yes, children would be behind a year in school but they'll be alive. They can make up that year, they can extend schooling. Again, it sucks, but better than the alternative of dying or watching friends and family die.
Face it, Trump is an absolute moron and I have no idea how anyone can still support or defend him.

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As far as long term impact, getting kids back in school should be one of the highest priorities. America will be paying for it the next 80 years if we have a generation of kids that had 1-2 years of instruction done remotely.

It could be have the young kids go, they are at a lower risk.

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ShotgunSilencer posted...

Kids also can't learn well when they are sick or dying, or watching their friends get sick and die, or watching their parents get sick and die.
This country handled this terribly. We need at acknowledge that and accept the consequences. Shit needs to be shut down, and shut down for real this time.
That means no opening schools. If online school isn't a feasible option, then we put school on hold for now. Yes, it sucks, but if done correctly there is a chance that we could get this thing under control.
So yes, children would be behind a year in school but they'll be alive. They can make up that year, they can extend schooling. Again, it sucks, but better than the alternative of dying or watching friends and family die.
Face it, Trump is an absolute moron and I have no idea how anyone can still support or defend him.

well first off, kids are less susceptible to the virus so your whole argument is based on an unlikely outcome. Kids dying? Not a reality based on what scientists have already said.

second off, your proposal is not gonna happen. We arent gonna shut down everything indefinitely. If you presented an actual strategy thats one thing, but youve presented something that is honestly not gonna happen.


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Ludwig Von 2 posted...

well first off, kids are less susceptible to the virus so your whole argument is based on an unlikely outcome. Kids dying? Not a reality based on what scientists have already said.

second off, your proposal is not gonna happen. We arent gonna shut down everything indefinitely. If you presented an actual strategy thats one thing, but youve presented something that is honestly not gonna happen.

Since when did less susceptible mean immune? They can and still will get it and can and will still die. Also any staff at the school, their lives matter too.

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LightHawKnight posted...

Since when did less susceptible mean immune? They can and still will get it and can and will still die. Also any staff at the school, their lives matter too.

I didnt think of that. You make an excellent point sir.

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Ludwig Von 2 posted...

well first off, kids are less susceptible to the virus so your whole argument is based on an unlikely outcome. Kids dying? Not a reality based on what scientists have already said.

second off, your proposal is not gonna happen. We arent gonna shut down everything indefinitely. If you presented an actual strategy thats one thing, but youve presented something that is honestly not gonna happen.

Things wouldn't have needed to stay closed this long if the US did literally anything to try and curb spread. There's a reason the US is basically the only country that isn't facing fewer cases.

LightHawKnight posted...

Since when did less susceptible mean immune? They can and still will get it and can and will still die. Also any staff at the school, their lives matter too.

Proto_Spark posted...

Things wouldn't have needed to stay closed this long if the US did literally anything to try and curb spread. There's a reason the US is basically the only country that isn't facing fewer cases.

you sold me, Canada here I come

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Lack of foresight is why we're in this deep to begin with. But yes, lets just continue not learning from our mistakes while having said lack of foresight.

Americans are the most self-destructive first world citizens ever, I swear.

"sHoUlD wE jUsT sHuT dOwN fOrEvr dEn?!?!?DURRR"

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