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Antifar
07/08/20 10:46:34 PM
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/08/biden-legal-marijuana-police-protections-353585

Joe Bidens unity task forces were created to bring the progressive wing of the Democratic Party into the fold after the sting of Bernie Sanders defeat.

But on key policies involving the biggest issue of the day criminal justice the left flank got rolled.

Amid nationwide protests against police brutality, the criminal justice panel formed by Biden and Sanders got into heated debates in recent weeks over qualified immunity, a legal doctrine that shields police from being sued for misconduct. Progressives pushed to end it, but Biden appointees agreed only to sign onto a commitment to rein in the rule.

Another flashpoint over marijuana ended similarly: Sanders team argued in private meetings that they should legalize cannabis, but that idea was rejected. One task force member described the disagreements over qualified immunity and pot as huge battles, and multiple people involved said the criminal justice panel presented some of the biggest challenges for compromise.

The vice president needs to figure out how he can step up and also catch up, frankly, to where the American people are headed in terms of wanting to have a real significant shift in how we think about things like policing and criminalization of marijuana and other drugs, said Scott Roberts, senior director of criminal justice campaigns for the civil rights organization Color of Change. He still seems to embrace kind of a law-and-order lite." Roberts, who was not on the task force, added that Biden is fortunate that he's running against President Donald Trump, whom he called a "white supremacist and vocal opponent of the Black Lives Matter movement."

On several other task forces created by Biden and Sanders, progressives celebrated Wednesday that they won concessions, nudging allies and aides to the presumptive Democratic nominee to the left on climate change, immigration and economic policy. But they struggled to persuade Bidens team on criminal justice policy beyond what he has already embraced.

The challenges suggest that Bidens beliefs on policies such as marijuana are strongly held. He supports decriminalization and medical pot, but his aides have said he needs to see more evidence that weed doesnt endanger peoples health before he backs legalization. Progressives also believe it demonstrates that the Biden campaign is wary of alienating police unions, which oppose changes to qualified immunity, and the larger labor movement of which they are a part.

At the same time, the task force's criminal justice recommendations suggest that Biden supporters are confident that the Sanders wing will back him in the end despite his refusal to budge, given the alternative.

Liberals are all the more frustrated by their inability to make more gains on criminal justice in the task forces because voters have been moving leftward on the issue. Polls show two-thirds of Americans support legalizing marijuana, and majorities among all racial and ethnic groups say they back the Black Lives Matter movement.

There will never be a safer time to be bold on these issues and push for change, and Joe Biden is missing the mark, said a Sanders ally who requested anonymity to speak frankly. I think people are going to rightly feel as if we didnt meet the moment. I think a lot of people are going to feel let down. Every progressive, when they read the sentence rein in qualified immunity, are going to find it laughable.

Analilia Mejia, Sanders political director who oversaw the task forces, said their overall recommendations are a victory for progressives, and represent an even larger achievement than the left-wing proposals adopted in the Democratic Partys platform in 2016.

Liberals were especially glad to see the panels embrace transitioning to zero-emission new buildings by 2030, moving to clean electricity in 15 years, and creating jobs programs like those effectively used during the New Deal.

You have the Biden campaign very publicly accepting a list of very progressive recommendations from quote-unquote both sides of the party and kind of making a tacit agreement that, if victorious, he's going to work to achieve these things, said Mejia. Irrespective of not being able to transform Joe Biden into Bernie Sanders, I honestly believe that this would be the framework for a progressive policy agenda across six vital issues. So I do think its a win.

On criminal justice, Sanders appointees pointed to some wins, such as the task forces goals of financing a "civilian corps of unarmed first responders," removing a "budget rider blocking [Washington] D.C. from taxing and regulating legal marijuana," and holding back money from states that use cash bail. Biden has also previously come out in favor of progressive criminal justice policies such as ending cash bail, expunging prior marijuana use convictions and banning chokeholds by police.

"Police spend so much of their time on nonviolent 'order maintenance' situations and health crises circumstances that definitely do not call for someone with a gun," said Chiraag Bains, co-chair of the criminal justice task force, who was selected by Sanders. "A 24/7 nonpolice responder corps aimed at supporting people, not arresting them, could have saved the lives of Rayshard Brooks, George Floyd and so many others."

They really pushed them, added Sara Nelson, the Flight Attendants Association union leader who was chosen by Sanders to co-chair the economic task force. Using the federal purse strings to push state and local governments to end cash bail is extraordinary.

Still, she added, It was always recognized that [the criminal justice panel] was going to be one of the toughest groups to make improvements.

Stacey Walker, a Sanders appointee on the criminal justice task force, said, Obviously, we did not get everything we wanted, but this work represents an encouraging start to the important conversations around much-needed reforms.


Michigan voted 56-44 to legalize marijuana two years ago.
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muchdran
07/08/20 10:47:50 PM
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Guide
07/08/20 10:48:15 PM
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All you have to do is nothing, you dumb old man.

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Zikten
07/08/20 10:48:24 PM
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yea everyone saw this coming. the Feds will never approve until like every state has legalized and then the tide will turn and whoever is president then will "suddenly have a change of heart"
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AmericaTheBrave
07/08/20 10:48:45 PM
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Biden is an old man. He's not gonna change his stance on it ever. Just a different generation.

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RadiantAdolin
07/08/20 10:49:25 PM
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Biden is trying really really hard to convince people he's not better than Donald. Just take the fucking win by default, man
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andel
07/08/20 10:49:31 PM
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opposing weed legalization is dumb af but luckily for biden he is up against a cartoonishly evil and historically unpopular guy

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JBaLLEN66
07/08/20 10:49:59 PM
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I don't smoke weed, so dont care

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Middle hope
07/08/20 10:50:08 PM
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Slaya4
07/08/20 10:50:47 PM
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We got two of the dumbest mf running for president. With Trump it will only be 4 years, with Biden it will be 8 years. Can we really handle 12 years of dumbasses?

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Zikten
07/08/20 10:51:47 PM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
I don't smoke weed, so dont care

neither do I but I do care. because this still effects you. a lot of people would not be in prison if it was legalized. and those people that go in prison for weed end up coming out hardened and then might commit worse crimes. like murder
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RadiantAdolin
07/08/20 10:52:24 PM
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Slaya4 posted...
We got two of the dumbest mf running for president. With Trump it will only be 4 years, with Biden it will be 8 years. Can we really handle 12 years of dumbasses?
Vote Biden then push for better shit.
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AmericaTheBrave
07/08/20 10:52:25 PM
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Slaya4 posted...
with Biden it will be 8 years

Biden will not live for 8 more years.

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GentlemanGamer
07/08/20 10:53:48 PM
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Joe Biden is basically indistinguishable from a moderate republican lol how is this country so flaccid and unable to even conceive of progress
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AmericaTheBrave
07/08/20 10:54:59 PM
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GentlemanGamer posted...
Joe Biden is basically indistinguishable from a moderate republican lol how is this country so flaccid and unable to even conceive of progress

Maybe the country doesn't like far-left progressives then?

No, you're not out of touch. It's the children who are wrong.

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GentlemanGamer
07/08/20 10:54:59 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
Biden is an old man. He's not gonna change his stance on it ever. Just a different generation.

His primary opponent was from an even older generation and supported it
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Intro2Logic
07/08/20 10:55:47 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
Maybe the country doesn't like far-left progressives then?
The country loves legalizing weed, though. Biden is to the right of public opinion, even swing state public opinion.

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Medussa
07/08/20 10:56:34 PM
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GentlemanGamer posted...
Joe Biden is basically indistinguishable from a moderate republican lol how is this country so flaccid and unable to even conceive of progress

what are you talking about? he's clearly A Socialist!!! and the biggest threat to America we've ever seen. Don't you watch the propaga... attac... campaign advertisements?

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GentlemanGamer
07/08/20 10:57:09 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
Maybe the country doesn't like far-left progressives then?

No, you're not out of touch. It's the children who are wrong.

Polling shows marijuana legalization is widely popular, and so are many other progressive proposals. People just voted for Biden because they hate Trump and the tv told them Biden could win and Bernie couldn't, which was a lie. They are just all billionaire owned propaganda networks protecting their finances.
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umax555
07/08/20 10:57:18 PM
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Still way better than Trump
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pfh1001
07/08/20 11:01:53 PM
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It's ridiculous how Red as fuck states like Oklahoma & Utah have legalized medical pot but the Feds still won't fucking budge.
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andel
07/08/20 11:05:06 PM
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umax555 posted...
Still way better than Trump

this is all that really matters at this point. trump recently tweeted white power and is putins bitch while allowing putin to take contracts on american soldiers.

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ThunderTrain
07/08/20 11:05:09 PM
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Better than Trump

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hockeybub89
07/08/20 11:09:36 PM
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umax555 posted...
Still way better than Trump
Biden could campaign to make homosexuality illegal and moderate Democrats would lambast people for not supporting him since he's "still way better than Trump".

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andel
07/08/20 11:37:45 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Biden could campaign to make homosexuality illegal and moderate Democrats would lambast people for not supporting him since he's "still way better than Trump".

but he isn't trying to do that and he is running to the left of obama and clinton. biden kinda sucks but he will look amazing compared to trump. defeating fascism is more important than being perfect imo

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Smashingpmkns
07/09/20 12:05:10 AM
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This moron said a lot of dumb shit today.
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Pepys Monster
07/09/20 12:11:39 AM
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People want to vote for an anti-weed old man in 2020.

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Doe
07/09/20 12:12:49 AM
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Joe Biden hates black people

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muchdran
07/09/20 12:14:07 AM
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Biden chooses truth over facts, text joe 360p6. You know the saying.
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R1masher
07/09/20 12:14:58 AM
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andel
07/09/20 12:53:14 AM
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Pepys Monster posted...
People want to vote for an anti-weed old man in 2020.

the choice is two anti weed old men. people will gladly vote for biden who isn't anti american troop lives and who doesn't tweet white power unlike his opponent

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Pepys Monster
07/09/20 1:42:49 AM
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andel posted...
the choice is two anti weed old men. people will gladly vote for biden who isn't anti american troop lives and who doesn't tweet white power unlike his opponent
I'll gladly vote for neither.

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onedarksoul
07/09/20 1:51:31 AM
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One of Bidens few good policies

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Antifar
07/09/20 8:00:35 AM
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andel posted...
defeating fascism is more important than being perfect imo

Then he should take the incredibly popular stance of legalizing weed, which would help him defeat fascism.
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MaxEffingBemis
07/09/20 8:06:25 AM
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andel posted...
but he isn't trying to do that and he is running to the left of obama and clinton. biden kinda sucks but he will look amazing compared to trump. defeating fascism is more important than being perfect imo
No hes not. Before this task force happened he was running to the right of both of them

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ledbowman
07/09/20 8:08:00 AM
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don't vote 2020

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St0rmFury
07/09/20 8:14:04 AM
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Ya know, I was kinda hoping weed would have been legalised under Obama.
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JBaLLEN66
07/09/20 8:16:12 AM
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Cause Trump will definitely legalize weed

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NoMeLx22x
07/09/20 8:16:32 AM
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I feel like it'd be a victory to get him to agree for all states to legalize medicinal and to decriminalize some of the charges.

Like yeah it sucks to not just go full legalization but at least if we get the infrastructure up around the country it makes it easier to go full legal when a president who wants it get in power.

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Alteres
07/09/20 8:17:09 AM
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St0rmFury posted...
Ya know, I was kinda hoping weed would have been legalised under Obama.


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St0rmFury
07/09/20 8:19:11 AM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
Cause Trump will definitely legalize weed

If he's smart, he'd take an opposing stance and totally backtrack on it after he wins.
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JBaLLEN66
07/09/20 8:27:50 AM
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St0rmFury posted...
If he's smart, he'd take an opposing stance and totally backtrack on it after he wins.

Trump could legalize weed and give me a million dollars and I still wouldnt vote for his orange dumb ass

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COVxy
07/09/20 8:48:46 AM
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There were several policies stances that did, however, move left as a result of the task force.

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berlyman101
07/09/20 8:54:27 AM
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I'm given hope by the prospect of progressives gaining influence in the administration but terrified of the prospect of neoliberals consolidating power the way neocons did in the Bush admin.

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Were_Wyrm
07/09/20 9:01:58 AM
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God damn if Biden coached football he'd punt on second down...

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COVxy
07/09/20 9:15:35 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Its the easiest policy to support. Everyone knows that weed was criminalized as a way of imprisoning black people. Were in the middle of a huge wave of support for criminal justice reform. Just fucking campaign on the easy thing. Joe Biden is not going to figure the hard shit out, hes clearly been terrible at that in regards to criminal justice for his entire career. Take this simple fucking step you old dumb fuck.

Decriminalization is far more important that legalization in that regard, no?

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