Board 8 > Has anyone else here gone to a gym recently?

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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

That's literally what people are doing. Like, it's not a problem to the guy who red was pouncing on for not accepting his made up science. Not one person here has had an issue with what gyms are doing. They are all being completely reasonable about it.

literally the first 3 posts of the topic are people going to the gym

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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

literally the first 3 posts of the topic are people going to the gym

Yeah, with strict guidelines set in place and cleaning procedures and all kinds of prevention set in place.

Also, I looked at five articles now under a basic google search straight down the line that all say masks make breathing harder, but not dangerously so. Somehow none of them are saying it's a fabrication of the mind. But I can't be fucked to bother keep looking for actual science denier red13n's "studies".

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Again, changes in oxygen levels with a cloth mask on have been shown repeatedly to be 1% or less. It will feel different but there is no inhibition of oxygen.

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I personally dont feel comfortable exercising with a mask on so I'll just stay home bro

Also it might be mandated in my state idk

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Going to the gym right now is dumb af anyway even with all the precautions they provide.

Better off getting some home gym shit and doing it at home for the foreseeable future. Less risk to your health and yeah it costs more but if you catch the rona at the gym, who would be paying more then?

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For the record, I absolutely do wear my mask during my workouts. Though it does help that I don't do cardio there, as I have access to an elliptical at home.

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UltimaterializerX posted...

You stay the fuck home and let people who don't live in fear actually live in peace.

They aren't living in peace. They are living in a world where our hospital capacity around the country is being reduced daily.

I don't fear anything, I just want to be able to safely open the country without sacrificing a portion of the population. People not taking this seriously is literally making this take longer and preventing us from living the lives we'd like to live. Wearing a mask is a simple unobtrusive solution to fixing this problem.

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Btw ulti I know someone that just ran 3 miles in a mask in 85 degree weather and didn't struggle in the slightest.

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red13n posted...

something tells me you are ignoring science.

Probably the part about you ignoring the science.

Id like to revise my post to something tells me you have never exercised a second in your life and your lack of being in shape is causing some animosity here

Yeah ill go with that one

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iiaattgg posted...

Id like to revise my post to something tells me you have never exercised a second in your life and your lack of being in shape is causing some animosity here

Yeah ill go with that one

Wrong.

That was true for most of my adult life(Not childhood, i had to stay in at least good enough shape to play baseball back then), then about 8 years ago I got my dog. My dog is active as fuck. The only way to get him to sleep at night was to run him for several miles every day.

Our literal every day begins going to the park and running 3 miles. Been doing it mask on recently just to set an example for others because I realized people like Corrik are too ignorant to realize when they should and shouldn't wear a mask and would take me not wearing a mask at a very open park to mean they don't have to wear it elsewhere.

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UltimaterializerX posted...

It's always cute when red tries lecturing people who literally and physically do this for a living. You are so laughably wrong, yet laughably smug, and it's why people like Seph and I just dismiss you as a joke. You have quite the attitude problem for someone who is legitimately factually incorrect on such a regular occurrence.

https://www.insidehook.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Coronavirus_mask.jpg

This mask does literally nothing for coronavirus. Nothing. I say this as someone who works in a research lab where we currently have live coronavirus inside of mice. We take human lung tissue from cadavers, bilaterally surgically implant them into mice dorsal to the scapulae (they look like they have shoulder pads, it's actually pretty cute), and then we inject them with live corona for various tests that happen afterwards.

If I wore that useless little thing I just linked to into the biosafety level 4 facility at work where we currently have live coronavirus inside of mice, I would get fired on the spot with no questions asked. But you go on pretending you know what you're talking about, red. It's quality entertainment.

The point of a cloth mask is to reduce the velocity of droplets that the virus travels on. Of course it's not as effective as an N95. But the general public also isn't supposed to be hanging out with coronavirus patients or live samples of the virus.

Cloth masks work for the general public assuming social distancing because the exposure time is lower and there's thus less chance of a significant viral load.

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red13n posted...

That was true for most of my adult life(Not childhood, i had to stay in at least good enough shape to play baseball back then), then about 8 years ago I got my dog. My dog is active as fuck. The only way to get him to sleep at night was to run him for several miles every day.

Our literal every day begins going to the park and running 3 miles. Been doing it mask on recently just to set an example for others because I realized people like Corrik are too ignorant to realize when they should and shouldn't wear a mask and would take me not wearing a mask at a very open park to mean they don't have to wear it elsewhere.

Cool man. Now that we have done the dance of "you dont know science" and "you dont exercise" we can that out of the way and go back to the original point that is that that certain aspects of working out, with the ones i specifically listed being high intensity squatting/deadlifting. These lifts when done at a high level will be pushing your CNS to the brink in ways that running will not. Its not a good idea in the slightest to do an RPE 9 or 10 squat or deadlift with a mask. Id say for you to try it so you could see, but id be setting you up for something dangerous so i wont

Can you run with a mask? Sure. Can you do a lot of lifts with a mask? Sure. All i was saying was that there are specific ones where its a horrible idea and since i do those i would not be going to the gym if i was required to wear a mask, which i wear 100% of all other places.

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I think somewhere you lost the point of you shouldn't go to a gym without a mask.

Leafeon13N posted...

I think somewhere you lost the point of you shouldn't go to a gym without a mask.

Yeah sess. You're missing the point that red can't be wrong.

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I can be wrong sure.

I am not wrong here.

We're literally the only country still dealing with this virus at anywhere near this level 4 months into our preventative measures because of people like those in this topic unable to deal with minor inconvenience.

I'm tired of this shit, so excuse me for pointing out those of you continuing to make poor choices.

Who is making poor choices in this topic right now?

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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Who is making poor choices in this topic right now?

Multiple people have been discussing going to gyms without a mask.

Nevermind that we probably should not even have (indoor) gyms open period at this point.

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Yeah sess. You're missing the point that red can't be wrong.

I cant help him. Ive gone everyday and have felt far more safe there than the grocery store and many other places. The only other place that i have felt more safe is my job and shocker it has basically the same requirements as my gym. Keep your distance, clean repeatedly, wear a mask when needed and dont get around people if you arent.

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People have discussed going to the gym with a tremendous amount of protocols in place to ensure passing off the disease is nearly impossible.

And WHO says that exercising is perfectly fine with social distancing in place, and they recommend it over exercise with a mask.

So what's your problem?

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iiaattgg posted...

i do those i would not be going to the gym if i was required to wear a mask, which i wear 100% of all other places.

This is the problem.

azuarc posted...

. People wear masks if they choose to, but I'm glad I'm not forced because there's no way I'm wearing a mask while doing cardio.

This is also a problem.

CaptainOfCrush posted...

. I wore a mask, as did more than half of the other members there. A

Believe it or not, this is also a problem. Putting yourself in an indoor space full of mask less idiots is a problem.

Leafeon13N posted...

This is the problem.

Right so i need you to put your thinking cap on here just for like 6 seconds. All im asking.

Do you think it is possible for me to do an exercise without a mask, away from people, and properly sanitize after? Like the virus doesnt say hey this person didnt wear a mask, bad boy, i have to go infect people 30 feet away now! Im not sitting here saying that i have some stupid principle where if they required it i wouldnt go because muh rights, im saying i wouldnt go because i want to do specific exercises that i would feel in danger doing if they did. I also wouldnt be going if i felt that i couldnt do those exercises safely WITHOUT a mask, you obtuse dipshit. You arent understanding anything anyone is saying, likely by choice

Some gyms can provide for safe environments. Some cant. Mine does. So i go. Suck a nut.

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Leafeon13N posted...

azuarc posted...

People wear masks if they choose to, but I'm glad I'm not forced because there's no way I'm wearing a mask while doing cardio.

This is also a problem.

it's not a problem in azuarc's case because he opts to stay home and not use the gym

I agree with your general point/frustration (everyone should stay home as much as humanly possible and wear masks whenever not) but stop jumping on azuarc
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Drakeryn posted...

it's not a problem in azuarc's case because he opts to stay home and not use the gym

I agree with your general point/frustration (everyone should stay home as much as humanly possible and wear masks whenever not) but stop jumping on azuarc

No, his gym just implemented this. He'd already gone a few times without a mask.

oh true, I missed that earlier post was also by him

whatever though, he's staying home now. good on his gym.
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iiaattgg posted...

Right so i need you to put your thinking cap on here just for like 6 seconds. All im asking.

Do you think it is possible for me to do an exercise without a mask, away from people, and properly sanitize after? Like the virus doesnt say hey this person didnt wear a mask, bad boy, i have to go infect people 30 feet away now! Im not sitting here saying that i have some stupid principle where if they required it i wouldnt go because muh rights, im saying i wouldnt go because i want to do specific exercises that i would feel in danger doing if they did. I also wouldnt be going if i felt that i couldnt do those exercises safely WITHOUT a mask, you obtuse dipshit. You arent understanding anything anyone is saying, likely by choice

Some gyms can provide for safe environments. Some cant. Mine does. So i go. Suck a nut.

Again, you are missing where this is spreading like crazy in maskless indoor environments.

You are bringing yourself into and contributing to this environment.

This is a problem on the most basic level.

UltimaterializerX posted...

People like red are exactly why so many other people refuse to wear masks. That's the irony in acting the way he does.

Wearing a fucking mask isn't an issue we should actually have to debate in the first place.

I have gym in my garage that I've been using. There's zero chance I would want to deal with hour long time slots and I don't know if I wanna be around people in that manner anyway.

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Ulti we've seen your bits we know not to take you seriously. I need to be in a specific mood to engage your trolling.

Leafeon13N posted...

Wearing a fucking mask isn't an issue we should actually have to debate in the first place.

Apparently you had to debate this while going on a walk with your dog since you said you only wear a mask recently to "set an example" to people who don't want to wear masks that they should.

Super brave of you, by the way.

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Leafeon13N posted...

No, his gym just implemented this. He'd already gone a few times without a mask.

And on those days, nobody was near anyone else. The gym was extremely sparsely populated and we all kept out distance from one another. We might as well not even have been in the same room. By this argument, I shouldn't be able to be in my house because my neighbors are on the other side of the wall. The closest I came to anyone was when I went to the paper towel dispensers to wipe things down.

I don't disagree with you in general. I think it's ridiculous that we can't get the virus under control. I will wear a mask literally anywhere else, had been remaining at home except when necessary (beyond using a running trail near my house,) and was extremely annoyed at my sister for hosting a 4th of July party with like 20 people there. When the gym opened last week, I was willing to make a slight exception for the sake of my mental health and well-being. My depression kept me on the couch for the last three days, and all I wanted when I woke up this morning was to go the gym, get a good workout, and wash all of that away. Home workouts are not at all the same thing for me.

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UltimaterializerX posted...

People like red are exactly why so many other people refuse to wear masks. That's the irony in acting the way he does.

Its not anything like that, he just cant fathom that some indoor environments can be made safe with proper protocols and sanitation, for some reason

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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Apparently you had to debate this while going on a walk with your dog since you said you only wear a mask recently to "set an example" to people who don't want to wear masks that they should.

Masks are unnecessary while maintaining large distances outdoors. I dont pass within 15 feet of anyone. I wear a mask purely for the point of exerting social pressure on my community..

Okay, and WHO says masks are unnecessary when exercising with proper social distancing and that they're a detriment when exercising. And it's in a place where everyone is wiping things down and being cleaner than ever, as well as the actual facilities themselves.

Why are you so against this to an obnoxiously smug degree?

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UltimaterializerX posted...

Notice how he ignores my post, because it shreds his BS.

The 6 foot rule doesn't really work as well as we'd like it to. The virus can live for a few hours as aerosol droplets, and all aerosol can travel more than 6 feet. I'll let MIT handle that one, and here is a very good article from USA Today on this subject.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/03/30/coronavirus-social-distancing-mit-researcher-lydia-bourouiba-27-feet/5091526002/

This doesn't contradict anything I said. In fact, it reinforces it.

From your own source:

The biggest threat we think with the coronavirus is actually the larger droplets. Droplets of saliva, snot, spit. Droplets that almost look like rain, if you will, when someone sneezes. Those droplets are large enough that gravity still acts on them. Usually, within about six feet of leaving somebodys body, those larger, more infectious droplets will drop to the ground. Thats where the six-foot rule comes from.

The point of cloth masks is to reduce the velocity of droplets (specifically larger droplets) so that exposure is minimized and people don't receive a significant viral load as commonly as they otherwise would.

And no, 6 feet is not a magic barrier, nor is a cloth mask. The point is to mitigate the risk, even though they don't eliminate it entirely. It's not possible for the entire populace to wear N95 masks.

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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Okay, and WHO says masks are unnecessary when exercising with proper social distancing and that they're a detriment when exercising. And it's in a place where everyone is wiping things down and being cleaner than ever, as well as the actual facilities themselves.

Why are you so against this to an obnoxiously smug degree?

Its just because it is so politicized that the crazies on one side will say no masks ever and the crazies on the other side will say that you have to wear the mask to sleep

No room for nuance and facts

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There is nuance. But luckily science has boiled it down to the simplest of terms.

Indoors out of household - wear a fucking mask.

Outdoors - Keep your distance, wear a mask if close or conversing.

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Is this the same science that says masks don't make it harder to breathe and that it's all in your head that is directly contradicted by WHO (and the fact I can't even find an article stating this at all)?

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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Is this the same science that says masks don't make it harder to breathe and that it's all in your head that is directly contradicted by WHO (and the fact I can't even find an article stating this at all)?

Hes too dug in man, you could have the head of the WHO and CDC in this very topic spelling it out for him and he would see what he wants to see. Its just flat out intellectual dishonesty. Not worth expending any more energy on

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azuarc posted...

I don't disagree with you in general. I think it's ridiculous that we can't get the virus under control. I will wear a mask literally anywhere else, had been remaining at home except when necessary (beyond using a running trail near my house,) and was extremely annoyed at my sister for hosting a 4th of July party with like 20 people there. When the gym opened last week, I was willing to make a slight exception for the sake of my mental health and well-being. My depression kept me on the couch for the last three days, and all I wanted when I woke up this morning was to go the gym, get a good workout, and wash all of that away. Home workouts are not at all the same thing for me.

Btw I know at least around here, a lot of local gyms are converting some of their outdoor space to gym space. My advice would be to see if anywhere around you is making the conversation. Could give you a little something to do if you can find one.

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