Board 8 > Rating Every Fire Emblem Character: Day 2 - Sigurd, Roy, Joshua, Cordelia, Peri

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kateee
07/03/20 2:53:41 PM
#1:


Do you like the idea of having different ratings for characters & units?



mixing it up today

Everything subject to change for now.

Stuff:
- Ratings 1-10, no decimals. If you include a decimal, I will round down.
- We will do two ratings for each character character (CH) & unit (UN). They will be separate lists and you do not have to rate for both lists. Character rating is for design, personality, aesthetics, story, etc. and unit rating for everything gameplay related. If you only submit one rating and dont specify which, it will default to the character rating.
- You are free to rate any characters from past days or change your rating.
- Nominations for future characters are accepted. This does not guarantee your noms will be up for rating the next day but they will be moved up the queue for sooner rather than later.
- You obviously do not have to rate everything, just the ones you want.
- No regular schedule (e.g. Day 2 will not necessarily come ~24 hours after Day 1)

Spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lne8OQTQ7CwA5UXfzbD-Gsl34JuhamCU9oUgW85JC9w

Past Days:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xdaRcNoKXPEjPNuA8-lRIZtVEQXI-qOJyqO3HZgdC6A

CH:
1. Hector 8.417
2. Lyn 7.154
3. Eliwood 5.750

UN:
1. Hector 8.286
2. Lyn 5.733
3. Eliwood 5.071

Day 2: Sigurd, Roy, Joshua, Cordelia, Peri

Sigurd (4)

Knight Lord
Stats / Growths:
Lv: 5
HP: 35 / 110
STR/MAG: 14/0 | 50/5
SKL: 11 / 50
SPD: 12 / 30
LCK: 7 / 40
DEF: 9 / 40
RES: 3 / 5
MOV: 9

Roy (6)

Lord -> Great Lord
Stats / Growths:
Lv: 1
HP: 18 / 80
STR/MAG: 5 / 40
SKL: 5 / 50
SPD: 7 / 40
LCK: 7 / 60
DEF: 5 / 25
RES: 0 / 30
CON: 6
AID: 5
MOV: 5

Joshua (8)

Myrmidon -> Swordmaster/Assassin
Stats / Growths:
Lv: 5
HP: 24 / 80
STR/MAG: 8 / 35
SKL: 13 / 55
SPD: 14 / 55
LCK: 7 / 30
DEF: 5 / 20
RES: 2 / 20
CON: 8
AID: 7
MOV: 5

Cordelia (Awakening)

Peg Knight -> Falcon Knight/Dark Flier, etc.
Stats / Growths:
Lv: 7
HP: 25 / 90
STR/MAG: 9/3 | 60/20
SKL: 13 / 60
SPD: 12+2 / 60
LCK: 9 / 45
DEF: 8 / 45
RES: 8 / 35
MOV: 7

Peri (Fates)

Cavalier -> Paladin/Great Knight, etc.
Stats / Growths (Conquest):
Lv: 10
HP: 25 / 40
STR/MAG: 13/0 | 65/5
SKL: 9 / 40
SPD: 13 / 60
LCK: 9 / 50
DEF: 10 / 35
RES: 10 / 50
MOV: 7

Form:
Sigurd CH
Sigurd UN
Roy CH
Roy UN
Joshua CH
Joshua UN
Cordelia CH
Cordelia UN
Peri CH
Peri UN
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kateee
07/03/20 2:54:09 PM
#2:


another Sigurd


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RyoCaliente
07/03/20 3:01:14 PM
#3:


Roy CH 6
Roy UN 6
Joshua CH 8
Joshua UN 8

r marth n roy in dis contes?

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MysteriousStan
07/03/20 3:07:27 PM
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Roy CH 4
Joshua CH 10
Cordelia CH 8
Roy UN 2
Joshua UN 8
Cordelia UN 8
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SSBM_Guy
07/03/20 3:27:39 PM
#5:


Sigurd CH 8
Roy CH 5
Joshua CH 10
Cordelia CH 6
Peri CH 3
Sigurd UN 10
Roy UN 3
Joshua UN 8
Cordelia UN 9
Peri UN 5

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Panthera
07/03/20 3:30:22 PM
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Sigurd CH 7
Roy CH 4
Joshua CH 7
Cordelia CH 6
Peri CH 1
Sigurd UN 10
Roy UN 3
Joshua UN 5
Cordelia UN 8
Peri UN 5

Character wise, Sigurd isn't the most interesting guy ever and his love story is ass but he works for the story he's in and is good enough to not undermine it. Roy is dull but at least he's inoffensive. Joshua is alright overall and gets a bonus point for having the best boss conversation in the series. Cordelia is pretty good when they're not harping on the obnoxious Chrom thing, unfortunately she spends a lot of time on it. Peri is a war crime against good taste. Even accounting for the fact that I kind of grade FE characters on a generous/lenient scale she's still awful.

Unit wise Sigurd is the best in the series. Roy is...not, though at least he gets a couple of chapters where he can contribute a bit and he doesn't really hurt you any for existing except on a couple of the most siege tome spammy maps. Joshua is a solid filler unit for a while but he falls off quick due to lackluster strength/durability and having that classic FE7-9 recipe for disaster of being a sword locked foot unit. Cordelia is one of the few units that gets you something special for investing in her in Awakening. Peri is...serviceable I guess? I've never really paid close attention to her and I can't see her being anything special but she's probably alright filler.

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Kenri
07/03/20 3:33:30 PM
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Sigurd CH 10
Roy CH 7
Joshua CH 9
Cordelia CH 4
Peri CH 1
Sigurd UN 10
Roy UN 4
Joshua UN 5

Sigurd's one of my favorites and is broken as hell, so he's an easy 10 for both ratings. Roy's issues as a unit are well known, but I like him well enough as a character -- he's probably the most politically savvy lord in the series, which lets him contribute in situations where other lords would just defer to their advisors/allies. Joshua is an extremely cool character with a very appealing design but his value as a unit isn't great; luckily FE8 is easy enough that he won't actually weigh your party down any.

I've never understood Cordelia's popularity. She's fine, I guess. I don't really like her pining for Chrom as far as character gimmicks go. Peri is probably the worst character in the series, so that's an easy 1 if only because 0 is off the table. I've never used either one so I can't really judge them as units, they seem decent enough though.

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kateee
07/03/20 3:58:31 PM
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hahahahaha i like Peri's hair though at least
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Luis_Sera89
07/03/20 4:36:48 PM
#9:


Sigurd CH 6
Roy CH 7
Joshua CH 7
Cordelia CH 9
Peri CH 8
Joshua UN 7
Cordelia UN 9
Peri UN 7

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BetrayedTangy
07/03/20 4:44:15 PM
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Cordelia CH - 7
Peri CH - 8
Cordelia UN - 5
Peri UN - 1

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kateee
07/03/20 7:36:43 PM
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Peri is so absurd that it's kind of funny to me. and i like her hair

Cordelia is just obnoxious >_>

Cordelia CH - 3
Peri CH - 5

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WickIebee
07/03/20 7:37:45 PM
#12:


Sigurd CH 7
Roy CH 5
Roy UN 3
Joshua CH 8
Joshua UN 9
Cordelia CH 5
Peri CH 4

Removed the unit side of the people from games I didn't play since if I took their Heroes units into play, I definitely screwed up on Lyn (as long as I only count her base unit) seeing as how she's just disappointing in it.

For those with removed units, I'll mention the character side. What I know of Sigurd is little, but from what I've heard he seems great. Cordelia and Peri I can make more of a note of. Both have awful gimmicks. One is strictly obsessed with a character and neglects both the character that marries her and her daughter because she can't romance a character she wanted to. And to be flat out honest, she'd probably stalk Chrom if we didn't have Tharja to ensure that'd duplicate personalities. Peri's voice makes me shudder and she's basically medieval Harley Quinn, except without any of the humor.

Now Roy. Binding Blade is rough on him. The writing is still trying to get there, so most characters are very dull in general, and as a unit... God he's awful as a unit. He's basically his dad in a game where RNG is worse, his stats are worse, and him not getting a horse or lances cuts versatility in half. Well, at least his Legendary Sword actually helps him. As for Joshua, I said it yesterday in a slightly obscure way, Myrm->SM are one of my favorite classes, and Joshua is a bit luckier in the strength department. Not the best at his class, but pretty good. His story is fun and enjoyable.

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kateee
07/03/20 7:54:49 PM
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yeah i know the S supports in Awakening are there for every pair because of the children mechanic and most of them are meh but all of Cordelia's future husbands all basically mentioning "i know you love Chrom but marry me" makes them all seem like such chumps
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kateee
07/04/20 12:07:18 AM
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Mewtwo59
07/04/20 12:34:21 AM
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Sigurd CH 7
Roy CH 6
Joshua CH 9
Cordelia CH 6
Peri CH 1
Sigurd UN 10
Roy UN 4
Joshua UN 6
Cordelia UN 8
Peri UN 6

You decided to put the best and worst lord in the same poll, huh?

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Evillordexdeath
07/04/20 8:44:56 AM
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Sigurd CH 8
Roy CH 7
Joshua CH 7
Cordelia CH 4
Peri CH 2
Sigurd UN 10
Roy UN 3
Joshua UN 5
Cordelia UN 8
Peri UN 3

Sigurd is one of the most dominant units in the entire series. He has excellent movement, extremely high stats, and perfect availability in his generation. Swords are the best weapon type in FE4 due to the weight mechanics, but Sigurd is so strong he can even sometimes one round enemies with the very impractical javelins this game has. He also has access to the light sword as a 1-2 range option. He destroys most enemies, barely needs to worry about damage, and tends to naturally accrue goodies like the speed ring that make him even more powerful. His personality is mostly in line with other lords but he benefits a bit from being in a more politically complicated story and having some strong plot moments revolve around him.

Roy in his base class is Eliwood with -5% in key growths in a game with much higher enemy stats. He struggles to contribute much in combat terms and is stuck with 5 move and swords as his only weapon type. He's also restricted to a very late promotion - if you get the bad ending, it doesn't happen until the very last chapter! The Sword of Seals is a great personal weapon that helps him fight effectively after promotion and makes him an important unit to have against Zephiel and especially the final boss, which he can one round very easily. Unfortunately, it only has 20 uses. He's quite similar to his dad in personality. At 15, he's the youngest army-leading lord in the series, and I think the modesty and self-doubt he shows as a result make him a little more appealing. I like this idea of being thrust into such a world-shaping responsibility when you're still making sense of yourself and the world around you.

Joshua has good combat stats, but myrmidon -> swordmaster is a bad class due to the classic 6 mov and swordlock issues. A 20% extra chance to crit and instant kill an enemy isn't that impressive when characters like Seth and Gerik can reliably kill most enemies just by landing two 90+% hits. He's similar to Guy in that he mostly contributes kills against tougher enemies in the early game. His character is basically a budget version of Lewyn from FE4, but I don't fault him too much for that because Fire Emblem characterization is very archetype based in general.

Cordelia joins with solid bases and starts as a Pegasus Knight, which helps her learn the all-powerful Galeforce skill faster than almost anyone else. Merits like those are most of what define a good unit in Awakening, where growths are universally very high. I guess I find her more tolerable than most Awakening characters.

I might be a little off base with Peri because I haven't used her much. She's terrible in Revelation and a little better in conquest, but still very lackluster due to a later join-time and unimpressive bases. The less said about her as a person the better.


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kateee
07/04/20 5:30:20 PM
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i can't believe so many people can't stand a psychopath who literally kills people whenever she feels like

Joshua looks so cool

Joshua CH - 9
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Cybat
07/04/20 6:29:25 PM
#18:


Sigurd CH 7
Roy CH 7
Joshua CH 8
Cordelia CH 6
Peri CH 4
Sigurd UN 10
Roy UN 5
Joshua UN 7
Cordelia UN 8
Peri UN 5

I like Cordelia and Peri's character designs but not their personality. You should probably add a third rating.

<_<

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kateee
07/04/20 11:12:18 PM
#19:


i mean i'm definitely going to be rating some characters highly just because of their design >_>
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Panthera
07/04/20 11:22:46 PM
#20:


Most of the characters in this series have little to them besides their design!

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Raka_Putra
07/05/20 12:22:21 AM
#21:


Roy CH 6
Joshua CH 7
Cordelia CH 5
Roy UN 6
Joshua UN 8
Cordelia UN 7

Roy not getting to promote until very late definitely hurt him a big deal.
Cordelia's simping for Chrom can get a bit grating though, especially in her romantic supports.

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Alanna82
07/05/20 7:21:17 PM
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Not usually going to rank the character bit, but I had to give Peri the lowest score possible.

Peri CH 1
Sigurd UN 10
Roy UN 3
Joshua UN 9
Cordelia UN 9
Peri UN 5

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